How did the Romans get so buff and lean without any knowledge of nutrition, equipment or medicine?

>inb4 they weren't all like that

Yeah I get it, but at least SOME had to look like this, or the sculptors wouldn't have been able to make realistic statues in the first place. All the proportions are nearly realistic, whereas if nobody looked like this you'd probably see anomalies like Michelangelo's coconut boobs or weird steroid abs type exaggerations.

They were all based on an ideal. None of them existed expect in the minds of the perverted artists

>>76315502 (OP)
wrestling, stonelifting, manual labor, ball sports, running, swimming, etc.
these guys lived and breathed physical activity. there weren't any basedboys with desk jobs or playstations. they were doing hard labour in the sun all day then going to wrestle with the boys for fun afterwards.
so
>How did the Romans get so buff and lean without any knowledge of nutrition, equipment or medicine?
because you don't need "knowledge of nutrition, equipment or medicine" to get jacked. your brain has been poisoned by modern sports "science". just eat and lift, don't overthink it.

>>76315547
That and they kind of did have a knowledge of nutrition and equipment and medicine. Roman's aside the Egyptian horse training manual that deals with warm up and cool down periods as well as nutrition for horses is a pretty incredible example of this same idea.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kikkuli

>>76315529
It's not perverted. This is completely non-sexual. You're the pervert.

>>76315547
>there weren't any basedboys with desk jobs or playstations
Maybe no onions or playstations but there were desk jobs.

>>76315502 (OP)
Inb4
>Nobody was buff this is just gay masturbation material where they exaggerated muscle mass
They exercised, lifted weights, ate high protein diets, and did a bunch of bro science like eating a bunch of onions and bull testicles.
They even had faggots who would walk around calling themselves philosophers asking shit like "lol why do u lift weights u couldn't flip a bull"
And those faggots, just like today were retarded faggots who didn't know shit.

>>76315710
only the wealthy had jobs managing others. you were born into it.

>>76315547
>there weren't any basedboys with desk jobs
it was an empire do you think they didn't have any bureaucrats?

>>76315502 (OP)
imho they're like the ideal of what a persons body should be, Alex Ross (pic related artist) actually talks about this and says how he considers drawing modern day superheros with that same philosophy in mind.

>>76315502 (OP)
Oh boy, this same exact thread with the same exact picture for the 9 billionth time.

>>76315502 (OP)
They were mostly all laborers or workers in some sense. Had lots of grain available to make bread and plenty of food available from a much cleaner ocean, and land animals a plenty.
Imagine all you had to do most days was move some heavy shit for a few hours, take an hour or so break for fish, dates, bread and cheese, maybe a little wine. You feel replenished and go back to work, reinforce your homes eastern wall, teach your son to wrestle a little bit, tend to your livestock and field. Ahh, such simple times.

>>76316999

>>76317043
It's funny how you don't see the irony of your post

>>76317044
I unironically expected you to say that

>>76315502 (OP)
Who do you think gathered all the stone for their buildings and statues?

>>76315561
What the fuck that's actually amazing. The ancients were truly smarter than us....vvvvgh. (Also Hittite not Egyptian)

>>76317054
>>76317044

>>76315502 (OP)
Posts like this show how /fit/ is full of dyel larpers.

You don't get hulked like that moving stones all day, dumbasses. We have all those jobs still, in warehouses and such. That's only possible if you're specifically going for muscle growth...even prison bods don't look like that. Whatever method they used, there had to be some science behind it.

>>76318733
If you progressively overload to heavier stones and higher volume over time, you absolutely could build a respectable physique. Probably not that jacked, but I see no reason to believe someone who is capable of lifting a 450lb stone, which was not unheard of back then and would best a lot of modern giant strongmen today, would be small. Weight is weight.

>>76318810
Sure, but that's an exercise regimen, and requires proper dieting, programming and scheduling. Basically everything people have to do today, without the pharma bullshit. To think that someone lifting rocks all day for a job, even really heavy rocks, would be able to grow a physique like that is completely delusional about how the human body works. And ignoring the fact that no slaveowner is gonna spend their money buying high quality protein for their slaves all day lmao

The Egyptians worked with stones just as large for thousands of years, and we have no records of gigantic Mr Olympia looking Pharaohs. Come to think of it, is there even a single Egyptian statue with abs???

>>76318733
Wrong. They were NATURALLY strong. Ever noticed how a bear never does bench press or squat, but he is much stronger than any bodybuilder? That's because he has natural strength. Gym is a Jewish scam to sell you expensive gym memberships while keeping you weak. Your body is not made to move like the machines. Free weights are somewhat better, but still very unnatural. It's all made to injure you, so they can sell you even more expensive medications and surgeries. You literally just need to behave like you would in the state of nature and you will be healthy and strong.

>>76315502 (OP)
these are statues bro

>>76319064
>Gym is a Jewish scam to sell you expensive gym memberships while keeping you weak.

Back to /pol/, dyel chud.

>>76315502 (OP)
>How did (insert ancient civ citizens) get so buff and lean without any knowledge of nutrition, equipment or medicine?
1. The idea that Romans, Greeks, Mesopotamians did not have any "knowledge of nutrition" (????????)
Is fucking pants on head retarded
2. They worked
With a few rare exceptions, horsepower, sailing vessels
Humans were the machines on Earth, if something needed to be built, people had to do it with their hands and simple tools
They worked
Are you retarded?

>>76315502 (OP)
no ancient roman looked like that its literally a drawing

>>76318810
manual labor breaks your body, not build it.

>>76319685
You are not going to build a physique doing labor lol.

Genetics is a factor
It is demonstrated that modern Olympic rowers cannot compete with their ancient equivalents.

Look up the modern reconstruction Olympias

>>76319738
Whoops wrong pic

>>76315502 (OP)
>year 4000
>post with r34 deviantart inflation fetish art dated 2025, now preserved as a priceless artifact in a museum
>"how did they achieve a 4,000 pound spherical build back in the 21st century???"

>>76317295
Ah yeah good catch. Pretty great stuff though yeah.

>>76315502 (OP)
>without any knowledge of nutrition, equipment or medicine?
Dude 99% of the "knowledge" we have about these things nowadays is either the most basic obvious shit or some study on a dozen people that shows a barely significant result.

>>76315502 (OP)
The girls were real and walked with men. This is what they saw. They didn't just make shit up.

>>76319852
*gods

>>76315740
Socrates was jacked you don't know shit

>>76315502 (OP)
>Michelangelo's coconut boobs
Holy shit, I'd never heard of this before. That's fucking hilarious, looks like the world's worst plastic surgery LMAO

>>76319865
Post depictions of Socrates that were made anywhere close to the time he was alive faggot.

>>76320181
Those are somenseriously lopsided breasts what the heck

>>76320206
The guy used male models instead of female models because looking at naked women for hours at a time just makes you horny.

>>76320214
Are you serious or are you pulling my leg

>>76320218
A lot of artists at the time did it.

>>76320222
So are you going to answer the question

>>76315502 (OP)
Are you stupid?

They didn't have smartphones or bibeoagaymes to distract them all day

They were up at 6am doing calisthenics all day and lifting weights and carrying cows on their shoulders

Your day looks like this

0600 - fast asleep
0900 - fast asleep
1100 - think about waking up
1300 - wake up
1400 - bubeogayme
1600 - fap
1700 - eat cocopoops
1800 - talk about lifting
2000 - go to gym and do bicep curl for 5 minutes total 40 minutes rest
2100 - bibeogayme
0100 - fap
0300 - sleep

>>76320253
You seem upset

>>76320258
I'm never upset. Ive already made it physically, financially and mentally

You're still playing assassin's creed: the dark shadow lmao

>>76320265
Yeah, I too tend to make insulting people on an anime website my entire personality Instead of having a coherent and pleasant conversation when I've made it financially and I'm totally happy with all aspects of my life.

>>76320272
If me displaying the structure of your day "insults" you, then maybe you need to rethink your entire life

>>76320278
Thanks for proving my point. Have a good day, bro

>>76320284
Please stop playing bibeogaymes

>>76320288
You have a good one, man.

>>76320296
Stop.
Bibeo.
Now.

>>76318977
>lift rock
>lift heavier rock
there's your ancient routine for getting big
do you think the romans were retarded or something? they couldn't figure out something as simple as "oh huh, this rock is too heavy for me, i'll lift a smaller rock until i can lift this big one"

>>76315502 (OP)
The statutes weren't based on a single person rather it was chimerical work based on multiple different people with a peak muscle.

>>76320442
Nvm that soldiers trained with heavier equipment to build muscle and stamina.

>>76320451
The word you're looking isn't chimerical, it's composite.

>>76315502 (OP)
>How did the Romans get so buff and lean without any knowledge of nutrition, equipment or medicine?
They knew just as much as we do, maybe more, they just had a different scientific paradigma, ie. humoral pathology, scienceof the temperaments. Aside from that, they knew just as much, they had periodization, arguments about veganism and carnivore, weightlifting vs calisthenics and much, much more. With many subjects being much more in depth than what we have today, just in a different direction. For exmaple, I don't see pro athleets caring much about what the meat they eat had for dinner before it was butchered or what region of the country it came from. The Greeks and Romans cared.

>>76317295
>The ancients were truly smarter than us
You jest, but the more you read the ancient texts, the more you start to believe this. Modernity was a mistake. A big one.

>>76318977
>>76320442
If you think it was all "durr lift rocks", you must be American. They had quite elaborate routines from what we know but it's a shame not a single one survived fully. Also, the Hercules Farnese has kinda small spinal erectors, so probabl< not a rock lifter.

>>76319685
My friends father was a stone mason, at his peak his was one, if not the strongest guy i have ever known. Eventually when he started to decline his body fell apart worse then the average person. Any sort of physical activity is going to wear your body down of years. Enjoy your days in the sun kids.