Does size or skills matter more in a fight?

>>76316867 (OP)
Skill can beat size up to a certain point. If its just two assholes on the street then an untrained guy will eat shit the vast majority of the time even if he's large percentages heavier than his opponent. If both still have some level of skill then the guy needs to be much, much better to make up smaller differences in size.
For the image, tigers fight other tigers less than lions but they still do it decently often though they are willing to give up the goat faster since an injury starves them to death even if they win. The theoretical 100lbs more they have is slightly counteracted by the mane as well. I think if its a male without a pride the tiger takes it but if he's defending his pride the tiger will back off far faster. Claws are no fucking joke, weapons change the dynamic entirely.

>>76316867 (OP)
luck>weapon>strength=skill

>>76316867 (OP)
A bear would easily take on these 2 at the same time

>>76317174
It's not luck retard, the better or stronger fighter basically always wins. If it was luck guys wouldn't go out and win dozens or fights

>>76317194
that's absurd. 'a bear.' What even KIND of bear? Any bear? a black bear? You don't have a clue. These are the ultimate killers.

Preparation matters more than anything. Never saw anyone outskill a knife, neither outsize a gun.

Fighting without tools and superior position is for animals.

>>76316867 (OP)
weapon > party size >>> size=skill

>>76317594
People have outskilled knives and guns several times. A lot of thugs have had the tables turned when the person they were trying to attack took their weapon and killed the shit out of them.

>>76316867 (OP)
Depends

>>76317227
Luck is more important than literally anything else in your entire life.

>>76318117
Being retarded actively hampers someones capability so its not as big of a win

>>76316867 (OP)
Does water or oxygen matter more for survival?

>>76317194
Bears are highly skilled

>>76318140
>Luck is more important than literally anything else in your entire life.
Luck is a skill. The better combatant can take advantage of good circumstances more and lose less in poor circumstances.

>>76316867 (OP)
when matched in one, the other matters

>>76318140
Is that webm supposed to be proving you wrong? The guy in blue perfectly controlled his distance.

>>76316867 (OP)
Brains will win all the time, unless in a controlled environment.

>>76316867 (OP)
Striking power > form

>>76316867 (OP)
Size matters more if you’re a lot bigger. But if you’re kinda samey, then the guy who can fight will probably beat the guy who can’t pbviously. Just my thought but most people haven’t fought enough to be that good. So they throw awful punches and likely will have zero idea what to do once you hit the ground. Lot of openings with how they throw punches. Just kick them in the nuts real quick.

>>76316867 (OP)
it depends on how much of both. capability of the opponent matters more

>>76316987
What are you saying about the mane, I don't get it. It gives the lion +10 aura and he can use it in fights against tigers?

>>76316867 (OP)

Well, just plain size isn't enough (think about manatees), but people practically always mean some combination of size and strength.

"Size vs skill" is a kind of an oversimplification anyway. It's usually debated by insecure martial arts practitioners as a form of copium versus other (usually strength) athletes.

If we'd change the terms into "natural ability VS rehearsed skills", then we'd be more to the point.

Like, if we'd somehow be able to give a person a 5-10x faster reaction speed than that of a normal human, that person would be likely to win in a boxing ring against almost anyone because all the opponents would be basically moving in slow motion in that guy's perspective.

Also, if, other things being equal, you're big and strong enough that you can just one-handedly grab your opponent and slam them to the ground, then you have an obvious advantage, even against a more "skilled" opponent. Like, if a 6-year-old kid would go against someone like Eddie Hall, even if the kid "knows kung fu", it won't matter much when any contact will basically lead to a one-shot victory for the bigger guy.

There's a misconception created by fiction that skill is all that matters exactly because in the real world a smaller/weaker opponent being able to use pure skill to defeat someone bigger/more athletic is so rare and impressive it makes a good story, kung fu movies and shit. Fuck, it's a trope that goes as far back as the literal bible with david and goliath. Now that everyone is more used to seeing fiction than the real world the original entire point of the idea is reversed and in real life the smaller guy who's been doing endless training montages will just get rocked in the face right away

>>76320255
Manes are thick as fuck and help deflect swipes and bites against the neck. That's their actual evolutionary purpose which is why male lions are judged by others off mane size even though it retains heat like a motherfucker, a really big mane is a real advantage in an otherwise even fight.
Granted they're only so good at their job because lions still die all the fucking time from injuries sustained fighting other lions, even through manes, but it still helps.
Seriously though, like 1 in 3 lions that actually engage in a bout will die from those injuries within a year. These are animals that can heal broken noses in a couple of weeks, they are tough fuckers and still end up starving if they lose or sometimes bleeding out if they win. Its why lion's roars are so fucking loud and they do bluff charges, they really don't fucking want to fight if they can avoid it

>>76320393
Ah that's cool I didn't know their mane served an actual purpose outside of peacocking. And why do they fight? I guess for territory and the females that come with it? So if they die so often there must be a high turn over of the alpha tenant of the land.

>>76316867 (OP)
One bullet can kill peak Mike Tyson easily even it’s hold by a retard

>>76317227
Luck means you can beat someone when he already exhausted or can’t even move one finger retard.that’s the luck

>>76320404
>I guess for territory and the females that come with it?
Close, more the other way around.
A pride replaces its male every 2-4 years or something like that because every female of a pride is bred by one male (or very occasionally a coalition of 1-3 brothers) who has full breeding rights over the entire pride. Pride leaders fight tooth and nail because a new male lion taking over culls every previous cub to force the lionesses into estrus for him. If you don't have a pride around you then you not only don't breed but any injury is significantly more threatening since you won't have anyone willing to hunt for you.
Lion society is godawful

>>76317194
aynus nearly brought bears to extinction with knives and bows. Aynus. 5ft6 on average

>>76320412
a fight not execution, retard

>>76320422
Lion society is unironically extremely close to human society

>>76320479
No, actual human being society understood the dangers of hypergamy and for millennia diligently worked to prevent it. And even still, its still closer to gorilla troops because modern cancerous "society" doesn't allow proper physical challenges and most certainly doesn't treat women (or subordinates in general) as property to be exchanged, especially not off a duel. Lionesses don't choose shit, even though they actively fight the male who's trying to kill her child she'll still demand to get fucked by him later while current mankind will have the females moving between different males at whim.
The concurrent situation would be closer to spotted hyena clans/cackles than to lion prides (though still not especially close).

>>76320505
NTA, but I'm interested.
Do you have any books or resources to recommend as a starting point to learn more about zoology?

>>76320415
No idea what you're saying

>>76320728
NTA but Jane Goodall if you want to learn about animals similar to humans