I just want a simple upper body routine to stay fit and stronger than most people

What's wrong with doing only pull ups and dips for upper body?

You’re only working in one plane and causing severe muscle imbalances

Pullups are based

>>76321114
I've tried rows and push ups but they do nothing, I don't see why I should do them

>>76321135
Not that anon but i love pushups. Sometimes i do in conjunction with pullups. I do until failure with different hand placement. I can hit my chest, lats, rib muscles.
Try isometrics or really just exploding upward with force from your chest.

Here you go.
Enjoy your gains for a single-time payment of ~300$

I can't get beyond 8 pull-ups, its ovet

>>76321108 (OP)
no issues with it but you soon going to find out why legs are so important for strength

>>76321277
I said for upper body, I already have a lower leg routine

>>76321254
Same, just hard stuck on 8 good full form pull ups

>>76321135
You haven't tried any exercise for more than 1 month
Your technique is probably shit
Your diet is probably shit
Your knowledge is probably shit
All exercises are good
Anatomy and biomechanics are brainlet/adhdtard filters

>>76321254
>>76321476
I feel like with any movement i start to focus on doing it slower over time. Trying to fo eccentric and concentric overload and practicing good form. Not ganna be perfect at first

>>76321482
You think about working out too much, just do it and stop being a bitch

>>76321496
>t. dyel

>>76321254
Routine?

>>76321496
See you tomorrow in the pullups and dips don't work thread

>>76321511
They do work though
I've gotten pretty strong just doing that. I started doing ring rows and I gave myself a shoulder impingement which made me need to stop for a week.

These 'muscle imbalances' sound like pure onions reddit queer needless complication of what can be a simple activity.

>>76321516
You can’t possibly be this retarded. You have to be trolling

>>76321516
Okay, then keep doing the same thing over and over until you get injured. Then, don't try to change anything because learning is for fags.

>>76321530
https://youtu.be/Awr9czfDMpg?si=tyb9yg-faDavCw2Z

This guy only does pull ups, push ups and dips. You sound like such a fag when you overcomplicate working out dude, cut that shit out

>>76321511
>See you tomorrow in the pullups and dips don't work thread
The one that nobody has ever made?

>>76321476
do more pullups then.
I aim for ~100 per workout reducing number of sets over time.
I can do ~15 dead hang now ~25 normal and my back still gets doms and grows

>>76321108 (OP)
Pullups and dips vs chins and pushups?

>>76321108 (OP)
add dumbells for curls and various shoulder raises
and simple does not mean easy you need to do shit ton of bodyweight to grow its exhausting as fuck

>>76321559
Wide grip pullups then chin ups then pushups

>>76321554
I'm not really that bothered about maxing out my pullup game. I've probably only programmed them twice in the past 18 months. I only do 2 sets per week for example atm.

>>76321108 (OP)
Nothing wrong with it. Though, I'd highly recommend you to at the very least include chin-ups in order to develop your biceps decently as well.
Other than that, add some isolation exercises to target muscles you'd want more growth in. Like for your side delts or forearms.

Why ate dips better than pushups? Don't you work more muscles and get a better chest emphasis with pushups?

>>76321693
With push-ups, you lift only part of your body. With dips, you lift your entire body. And it's easier to add weight on dips than it is for push-ups.

>>76321693
Not for me

bump

>>76321135
Wait so you already know about push ups and rows then why the fuck are you even asking this shit just throw in some push ups and rows at the end as like additional volume like a drop set it's literally just an additional two or three minutes

If you really can't bring yourself to do them maybe do narrow push ups and supinated rows and treat them kind of like arm work idfk

>>76321254
Change something maybe do more sets of less reps for a while (more volume) and make gains that way then switch back to less sets of more reps (more intensity)

>>76321496
>you think about working out too much
You made a thread to get people to validate your workouts nigga you already think more about this type of training than anyone replying to you here

I fucking love dips bros

>>76323092
Rows really fucked up my shoulders and now pull ups hurt, I'm trying to do correct form but the rows have really fucked my shit up, I was wondering if they were really necessary.

>>76323166
do inverted bodyweight rows using a barbell or rings until you stop bitching about your shoulders

>>76321108 (OP)
you're gonna have giant lats and pecs, no shoulders, no traps, no legs and inevitable shoulder injury from no horizontal pulling or spinal erector work.
enjoy it, every califag comes to this conclusion eventually, and that's why every cali content creator goes to the gym but doesn't tell their audience.

>>76321701
How so

>>76321108 (OP)
Take the ring pill and start doing skill work

>>76321108 (OP)
your going to die

>>76321108 (OP)
I did that and got golfer’s elbow. Nothing wrong if you’re careful maybe.

>>76323370
Can you elaborate on the shoulder injury thing? I was doing only pullups and dips for a while and got a weird and painful injury in the first of my shoulder. I basically couldn't even do deficit pushups or dips for a while. It's slowly healing. Do I need more rows?