>muh bulking
>im too skinny
>I need to eat more

Why the FUCK are dudes worried about being skinny? The dudes that get the most bitches are skinny. Likely the reason you don't have bitches isn't because of being skinny but because your facial structure isn't the best. In terms of getting women being skinny >>> being a "power lifter" at 25% body fat that can bench double his weight but LOOKS like shit.

>>76321846 (OP)
some people constantly fantasize about scenarios where they need to use their hands to defend themselves and others against muslims, gypsies, africans etc.
a skinny pretty boy just gets raped
then again there is the lanklet boxer or muay thai build, some of those dudes have no mass but they can fuck you up

>>76321857
>then again there is the lanklet boxer or muay thai build, some of those dudes have no mass but they can fuck you up
that's the optimal build in between.

when I was at my skinniest femboy look, I pulled the most women.

>>76321846 (OP)
>BRO I'M TOO TALL FOR BITCHES
>I WISH I WAS SHORTER!

>>76321846 (OP)
Stay skinny. matter of fact what the hell are you doing in /fit/, you don't need threads to learn shit about cardio and weight loss, it's braindead.

>>76321846 (OP)
I don't want to look like a potential victim when walking at night. I want to look like I'm the threat.

>>76321857
>some people constantly fantasize about scenarios where they need to use their hands to defend themselves and others
My favorite posts desu. They are fucking delusional. Many of the battle-ready posters harbor gay fantasies or woman savior fantasies.

>>76321864
>that's the optimal build in between.
that build works the best when you have a wide shouldered frame, not everybody has a wide frame and so when they go lanklet mode they just look like a nerdy worm and in that case it benefits them to have some more muscle on their shoulders, traps, arms, back etc

>>76321846 (OP)
>The dudes that get the most bitches are skinny.
Doubt.
Most girls like feeling dominated by a man more massive than them. I've read many posts by women describing this scenario

>>76321903
I imagine most of those posts are from large, fat, slob like gym-goers who have a decent squat/deadlift but nearly zero athleticism, coordination and definitely no martial arts training
just fantasy

>>76321864
I pull most when I talk to most.

That simple.

You gotta talk to girls. That simple.
Guys are so terrified from talking to girls they will invent money, muscles, looksmaxing and other myriad of forms of "acting like women" (trying to get attention from their mate) not knowing that in human society the man is the one who acts and woman is one who attracts.

You are not a bird. You are a human male.

Women perk around and try to get YOUR attention, its not you who should be walkign around trying to get theirs attention, they wont do anything with it lol.

Talk to them once they got your attention and dont automatically marry her because she makes you hard.
Vet them a bit.

Guys think approaching and talking is to get sex.
No, its to see if the girl is right for you.

But when your self image is in the gutter, of course you cannot see it that way.

Beggar mentality gets nowhere. At best a girl who is mentally ill.

>>76321955
This is obvious for men who grew up with a father. When you post it here you get mentally ill cope replies about face - height - frame or "research papers" and tinder surveys jpegs.

>>76321912
This guy gets it. Every woman on earth want to be dominated by a guy who can easily kill them

>>76321857

The best fighters are usually the super tall skinny dudes in that weight class. those same dudes bulking up 30 lbs would ruin their advantage.

Dudes have a gift from God and don't even appreciate it. They see everyone around them doing anything they can to lose weight, while they can eat what they want and not worry about gaining weight and actually want to. Now obviously this isn't someone with a medical issue this is more someone healthy and mad they're skinny and not built.

>>76321846 (OP)
They think eating like a pig + going to the gym 3x week will get them jacked.
"Bulking" is for roiders. All nattys need to bulk is an extra chicken sandwich a day.

>>76321887

>Self defense fag

Just get concealed carry or a knife if you're in Euroland. Even pro fighters die against goons with weapons shit isn't the movies.

If you're getting jumped they're going to target you no matter what.

>>76321887
maybe start with losing the anime shirt and not looking down at the sidewalk or your phone because you're too scared to look people in the face

>>76322009

Exactly with roids you actually need to eat a bunch because your metabolism is crazy which is why they can eat what the eat and not get fat. Tren is especially good at nutrition partitioning.

>>76321976
>>76321912

The typical skinny "pretty boy" is MUCH stronger than most women. Even the nerdy dyel is stronger than 90%+ of women. Women think if they're taller than a guy they can take him but not at all.

>>76321913

Yeah shit is sad cause why just lift if you don't look good. The bodybuilder with mediocre numbers but looks healthy is 100x better than the fat guy that is strong in the weight room. I say this as someone that thought all that shit about bulking worked for natties.

>>76322029

IDK honestly in 2025 an anime shirt doesn't make you seem like a target like it would in 2015

>>76321912
>>76321976
They want to be dominated by a good looking guy who can hold a conversation and doesnt have a severe personality disorder who is just a little bit bigger than them.
Not some ugly retarded incel who went to the gym for a few months to get slightly bigger muscles.

>>76322036
bulking does work for natties, just too many people confuse "bulking" with eating everything in sight and being in a 1500 calorie surplus
as the other anon pointed out it doesn't take much
most guys who just start going to the gym are probably already intuitively eating enough calories to be in a "bulking" phase
200-300 calories over maintenance
easy to overshoot that and get fat though, but bulking is essential for natties

>>76322036
>which is why they can eat what the eat and not get fat.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
Lots of people get fat on roids especially their first cycle because they believe these memes that nattys spew.

>>76321887
That's unironically retarded, if you don't look threatening then if someone wants to fuck with you he will get too cocky
If you look threatening you're setting up a scenario that your enemy will want to bring excessive force to deal with you

>>76322062
most guys who start going to the gym make no progress and quit after a few months or still look the same 2 years later because they're trying to
"gain muscle and lose fat" at the same time.
You cant do both at once. You have to eat a little more to gain muscle and less to burn fat.
Also they dont really change their calories. They just drop junk food but make up for it with "healthy food" which they think automatically makes them lose weight.
And that's why everyone is dyel

>>76321887
Move to a white area/country

>>76322003
Yeah being tall is the most important thing, won't matter if you're skinny of fat. If you're a manlet being skinny is the worst thing you could ever be.

>>76322085
Street criminals are looking for an easy target. They're not going to jump a big guy who looks like he can handle himself. A 250lbs 4channer waddling down the street in a greasy batman shit isnt going to intimidate anyone.
Now if its a flashmob of niggers it doesnt matter how badass you look because they have numbers to overwhelm you.

Story time
About 15 years ago I was a "builtfat powershitting" (to use 4chan incelspeak) roider and looked like and NFL linebacker 6'2 and pushing 260bs.
I was walking on the beach in Hawaii one night and hear some guy cursing screaming about kicking my and running right at me. I stopped and brought my hands up to chest level and the guy stopped dead about 10 feet from me, looked me up and down, said "sorry I thought you were someone else" then did a 360 and walked away.
A few minutes later some security guard asked me I saw a guy matching his description because he jumped and beat up several people.

>>76322056
No shit

>>76322036
> The typical skinny "pretty boy" is MUCH stronger than most women. Even the nerdy dyel is stronger than 90%+ of women. Women think if they're taller than a guy they can take him but not at all.

Nice cope. The only problem is that women don’t give a shit if even the scrawniest men can dominate them. They want a man who other men fear and who even the most retarded feminist must admit can easily kill her with his bare hands. Imagine walking up to a chick as a dyel and talking some game saying you’re going to choke her and pin her against the wall while you fuck only for her to laugh at the very idea of you doing that
>b-but I’m totally strong enough to do that!
Sure maybe you are, but she doesn’t think so and this entire situation revolves around her BELIEVING that you can dominate her and getting wet at the very idea.

>>76322245
>They want a man who other men fear and who even the most retarded feminist must admit can easily kill her with his bare hands.
You have serious mental problems. Normal people dont even think like this. Women dont look a guy and think "I bet he could rape me and kill my guy friends, that's hot".
And its only 4chan incels and actual rapists go around thinking "I could effortlessly rape her" like gets posted here anytime some posts a pic of a female.
Only difference between a 4channer and rapist is the 4channer is too weak and scared to rape anyone except maybe a 6 yo girl.

>>76322277
At this point why even post on chan, go back to rddit

>>76322277
They don't literally think this you dolt. There was a reddit thread earlier about body parts that women find sexy in men, most replies were about arms and shoulders and the elaboration was that they think that guy is strong and capable. They want someone that fulfills the ideal of man in their head, i.e. someone socially and physically capable that has a life goal/path and does what he likes. Themselves are the ultimate prize in this fantasy, so what they abhor is a man afraid to speak to women as it indicates a timidity before every goal.
A man with a volume larger than them is someone that physically fulfills the stronger partner - protector role and places them in the other part.

>>76322326
>says go back to reddet
>post directly below his is some literally some shit from reddet
>every thread made here is a discussion about something someone posted on reddit, with screen caps from reddit
4chan is a reddit board

>>76322056

True most women understand that even the nerdy DYEL that works at Gamestop can likely take them in a physical altercation. They just don't want a man that's a bitch.

>>76322062

I think now that info is getting out there but too many dudes were "dirty bulking" by eating milkshakes and burgers thinking that would help them

>>76322181

Eh, if you have a face card it's not the end of the world. Correct about height that's the first thing. I will say being tall and fat won't help that much. Maybe like /fit/ "fat" of being 15-18% but if you got a big ol belly hanging out you're too fat for most women.

Women in 2025 are PICKY

>>76322415
>Reddit
Was an older meme but maybe you thought it was serious, there are many autists browsing the board.

>>76322036
>Women think if they're taller than a guy they can take him but not at all.
I’m 179cm and my Greek gf was 181cm and weighted 15kg more than me because I fell for the ‘life starts at 10%’ and I got to 68kg and one time we fighted and she picked me up and threw me on the ground. Sex was great huge tits but I only go for short and thin girls nowadays

>>76322485
>its just a meme bro we dont really mean it
get lost

>>76322644

That's on you anon, that meme is correct you're just not strong. What you don't consider is that if you were a tubby strong man your ex wouldnt have dated you and you couldn't enjoy those tits...

>>76322277
Please refer to >>76322340
you fucking smooth brain normie

Also take the advice from >>76322326

Unless you’ve legitimately been skelly mode, you have no actual perspective. When you’re a skinny guy, people by default take you less seriously. Guys are more willing to test and disrespect you because they assume they can easily beat your ass in a fight. You can still get girls if you have a handsome face, but even they will still think less of you to a degree, and less girls overall will be attracted to you than if you weren’t skinny.
There’s also how you feel about yourself when you look and feel physically incapable, especially compared to your peers. Being a skinny guy sucks. The only advantage to being skinny is that you’re not fat.

>>76321846 (OP)
because dudes like being strong. being low body fat AND muscular is ideal

>>76322462
>I think now that info is getting out there but too many dudes were "dirty bulking" by eating milkshakes and burgers thinking that would help them.
I’m a natty dyel and eat dirty if I know calorie deficit is incoming, not more than 1-2 times a week. Won’t it help?

>>76321846 (OP)
Skinny guys with good faces, good hair, and wide shoulder bone structure get the girls.

>>76323196

>that you're not fat

Exactly. It's still better than being fat and it's easier to put on weight than take it off. I've seen skinny as nerds/skater dudes with chicks, you don't really see fatass nerds with women. It's repulsive.

Like obviously lean is best but skinny isn't bad.

>>76323504
>skinny as nerds/skater dudes with chicks
I know the type, they look like they have some strength and tiny bit of muscle despite their twinkness. They're not never-trained skinnyfats.

>>76323379
everyone gets girls except for cartoon-watching shut-in incels who cant look a girl in the eye and say hi

>>76321955
This guy fucks. I will say - lifting does make you confident and gives that zero fucks attitude which women naturally love though. I went from barely being able to talk to old women cashiers, to the other end of the spectrum taking things too far (staring at girls with their BF standing right there, flirting in traffic, etc...). But my build had very little to do with my capacity to pull bitches, it just made me give zero fucks about rejections, and flipped approaching from some terrifying anxiety provoking event, to being fun.

It's literally all just a numbers game at the end of the day from what I've learned. Every girl has a penis pipeline that either has a position open (single or she's a slut willing to cheat), or her cock needs are being fulfilled. What you say or look like has an effect of course, but the most important variable is whether or not she has a penis slot open at the particular moment you talk to her. Looks and game just affect the "maybe" girls

>>76323930
Jeff Nippard saved her life

>>76323905

Skinny is different from skinnyfat. When I think weakling skinnyfat I think of a dysgenic indianbro that is somehow skinny and also has a beer belly.

The type you're describing though is still super easy from a skinny frame. You will be fit enough for women with just pushups and situps everyday for a few months.

Even then the skinnyfat bro can still look decent with clothes and fashion

>>76323930
Lifting didn't make me want to approach women but it made me less afraid of niggers, even ones bigger than me

>>76323930

>>76323196
Only if you're short, if you're tall you can get away with being skinny. It's bs because alot of manlets can beat the shit out of taller guys but it's just lizard nigger brain shit

>>76323965
Same. But watch out it might make you less racist because niggers really complement your gains the most
>sheeitt nigga daaaaamn u swole nigga
If you value your inner chud dont get too jacked

>>76321955
What do you talk about?

>>76321955
>Just approach bro
This doesn't work in third-world countries. I am a Muslim,and I'm pretty good-looking as well.

>>76321846 (OP)
True but only if you're tall and skinny

>>76321846 (OP)
Do women care about arm size? I'm skinny with skinny arms, especially forearms/wrists, and when I'm wearing t-shirts, I get insecure.

>>76324839
That's what they care about the most. Train arms and shoulders

>>76321955
This does not work.

>>76321846 (OP)
Because after some time being skinny is a bad thing.
It only looks good as a teenager. In your late 20s you should start becoming muscular to look manly.

>>76321846 (OP)
I’m truly envious of dudes who can just not eat. I’m lean enough to have a flat stomach and abdominal definition but I can still grab a handful of love handle fat.

>>76321887
>I want to look like I'm the threat.
This is so retarded it has to be bait but I'll bite anyway in case you're a teenager with enough brain cells to receive this logic: if you look like a threat, you WILL be tested. Doesn't matter if you're open carrying a firearm, roid and bulk up, go to MMA for 3 years and start wearing some MMA shirt saying "NEVER SUBMIT" or some other gay shit, the violent gorillas of the world will find you and test you.