Thread 76325111

>Who is /fat/ for?
For dependable ducks working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.
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>What do I do first?
1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/
2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy
3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/
Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.
4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php
5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros), LoseIt (great for both), or Waistline (FOSS).

>Now what?
Count calories, all of them.
Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.
Buy scales, be accurate.
Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.
Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per pound of goal lean body mass.
Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.
Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and lose fat much quicker. Not lifting results in the body eating away muscle AND fat.
Drink more water.
Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html

>DON'T
Eat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.
Eat processed foods.
Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, Starbucks).
Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks.
"Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.

>Other resources:
Loose skin, gynecomastia & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/
Reddit Wiki: https://www.reddit.com/r/loseit/wiki/faq

Previous thread: >>76319474

The heat is killing me.
t. yuropoor with no AC

I wanna binge

>>76325120
this heat will only make me stronger

Ate a single chicken nugget all day.
Could've been better, could've been nothing at all, but a nugget is pretty small.

>>76325120
Get yourself a really cheap USB fan. It's a lifesaver.

I noticed a stall in my fat loss. Do you think it’s mostly down to calories?

>>76325158
Yes, you're eating too much.

>>76325158
Could be water retention. Wait for a whoosh, if it doesn't happen in two weeks - eat less.

>>76325158
95% of the time you're just eating too many calories (even when you think you aren't, see pic). 5% of the time its a water thing and you need to give it a few weeks.

Try eating less and be mindful of calories you might be forgetting to log, because your body isn't.

My plan is
>2 meals a day during 8hr feeding window
>~500 cals each
>High protein

What's good to meal prep for this? Preferably something I can make a huge batch of and stick in the freezer because every past diet that has failed has been because of goddamned fucking piece of shit cooking. No veges and no spices, I'm not indian.

>>76325173
>1000kcal/day
my condolences

>>76325173
>No veges
no, you will eat your greens or i won't help you

>>76325173
>No veges and no spices, I'm not indian.
if you plan to cook only with meat do you need a recipe? just put the piece of meat in your preferred form of heat and be done with it.

>>76325173
Lean protein source and a cruciferous vegetable

>>76325173
I've been doing beef and bacon lately.
I get about 1kg of extra lean beef mince, salt and pepper it decently and mix it up with the salt and pepper so it's spread throughout. Then I make a burger patty and put a couple of pieces of bacon in the air fryer for 10 minutes. Flip the patty and then another 9 minutes. Eat it with only a fork.
I call it beef and bacon.

>>76325183
>cruciferous
fucking hell stop making up words

>>76325187
Educate yourself

>>76325180
Meat, eggs, dairy, and a small amount of grains like rice or noodles are fine. Sauces are fine too. But my tastebuds can't deal with broccoli, capsicum, etc. Nuts too.
Anyway I mostly want to know what is easy to make in a big batch and freeze.
>>76325177
I can bump it up to 1500 if I need to but I'd rather not.
>>76325186
Nice one anon

>>76325201
>my tastebuds can't deal with broccoli
yes they can, you're just cooking it wrong

>>76325187
Just select something from the left and pair it with something on the right. Find the combos you like and prep meals comprised of them. Or just eat chicken and broccoli everyday since those are the minmax options. This way just gives you some variety.

>>76325211
Vegefag propaganda. Why can't you people just admit your bizarre plant leaves are disgusting? If you have to do 15 fucking things to it to make it edible you're just polishing a turd. You know what you have to do to meat to make it edible? Nothing. Just cook it. Meat is already delicious and it's the healthiest thing you can eat.
>oh but you need greens
Did your mum tell you that? Going to pull out the food pyramid next? Carnivore has well and truly proven its viability.

>>76325219
Lmao ngmi

>>76325219
Nigga are you 9 or something? Go eat your greens or you won't be using your PC for a month kek

How much water weight would you say you gained from creatine? Debating if I hit a plateau or if I soaked up about 2.5 lbs of water, as I've been more or less steady for about two weeks since starting taking creatine again.

>>76325211
He likely has the fucked up TAS2R38 gene, people with it taste broccoli as extremely bitter. There's a similar gene that makes cilantro taste like soap to some people making them hate almost all Mexican food.

You can try zucchini, carrots, or cauliflower those are far less likely to taste bitter to you.

>>76325236
i heard the average for 5 gramws of creatine is 2-4 lbs

>>76325236
I literally gained like 8~9lbs when I started taking creatine and changing absolutely nothing else about my diet. It set me back a month if I was only tracking via the scale, but my waistline was going down at the same time so I knew I wasn't gaining fat.

Try tracking other metrics like waistline for times like this when you can't trust the scale.

>>76325235
How are vegefags STILL spouting this absolute nonsense when there are hundreds of people living on a carnivore diet and doing perfectly well. I did carnivore for a couple of years, it never caused me any gastrointestinal issues. You niggers are a broken record.

>>76325251
Morning.

>>76325251
>hundreds of people
And billions eat veggies with no issues

>>76325268
So? I'm avoiding it because it's disgusting, not because it's gonna give me cancer

>>76325251
shut the fuck up bitch or i'll snap your brittle bones
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0946672X02800177

>>76325246
>>76325248

Well, hopefully it's nothing like that much although the anon is right, the weight is secondary.

I'm just trying to get back on track and was starting my day with a protein shake + creatine, and I do feel like I feel better on creatine, especially when running a fairly large deficit. I've been around 800 calorie deficit for most of these days.

Pic related, it's the month of June and I started taking it about two weeks in and didn't make much other change.

>>76325251
>following the diet equivalent of the fouchie ouchie
no long term studies. thank you for being a lab rat

>>76325301
>mice study
You're a fucking retard
>>76325315
>no you can't just try things and trust your own experience you need an institution of people doing the same thing to tell you what to believe
Kill yourself

>>76325158
Give it some times.
The weight suddenly becomes stubborn sometimes and then magically disappear.

>>76325172
This, but with cashew. Now, I limit it to 10 cashew per day.

>>76325172
My app has banana in there but I can only add it as small (40g) medium (60g) or large (80g), but when I weighed my banana it was 156g do I log it as 2 large bananas or just 1 large?

>>76325128
okay do it

>>76325320
No refunds faggot

I don't get it, broccoli tastes great after 1 minute of steaming/boiling
Love it, thrive on it

But if your tastebuds detest broccoli or other veggies maybe your body is not meant to eat it

>>76325408
>steaming/boiling
Easily the worst ways to cook broccoli. Do better.

>>76325449
Which method is preferable?

>>76325503
deep-frying. Must be in lard, not seed oils.

Fatty Contest
IhaveAids
290.1lbs
5'7"

Took a slight break due to severe insomnia, luckily it seems I some how still lost a pound

>>76325609
do you actually have aids?

Damn avoiding sugar completely makes dieting a lot easier

Post burns you fat pieces of shit

>>76325609
>slight break
>1 month

>>76324137
>cheat day
>still lose weight
I cant tell you how many times this has happened to me on cuts. I always figured it was a "refeed" occurrence and HELPED with the weight loss

>>76325349
Did you forget to peel it before weighing or are you scarfing down the Hulk's cock of bananas?

>drank 1 liter of milk in one sitting

why the fuck does it taste so good??? Is this because I haven't drank milk in 2-3 years?

>>76325688
Ngmi

>>76325503
NTA but I'm partial to air frying.

>>76325688
>660kcals
Ooof

>>76325690
hey it's the ngmi anon

i want to kiss you

>>76325695
No one likes you green tranny kys

>normally don't trust how many calories my fitbit says I've burned because It's very generous usually
>lately it's been telling me values under 2000 calories per day
>I need to set the activity level on sailrabbit to IMMOBILE to get those kinds of values
>realizing I've only been walking 1500 steps per day
I'm too tired to move around anymore bros

>>76325688
Whole milk is fucking delicious and my primary source of fat. A glass of whole milk with 2 scoops is like a fucking dessert. Absolutely love it, but man you have to be careful with milk, very easy to overindulge.

>>76325706
I get the low fat milk at least. but it doesn't make sense, I must be deficient in calcium or something to desire it that much.

I have only lost 0.6kg (1.3 lbs) in 7 days. I'm very disappointed, I wished I had lost a full kilogram already. I guess I'm fasting today.

Going on vacation for 2 weeks starting tomorrow. Not to worried about gaining too much weight, but am a bit sad that I couldn't get under 200 in time.

>>76325774
does that mean you won't be on /fat/ for 2 weeks?

>>76325792
probably not

>>76325804
i will miss you. come here and hug me, I will be lonely without my fat brother.

*opens arms big and wide to embrace your stomach*

AAAAAAAAGHH I'M PLATEAUOOOOOOOOOOING

>>76325688
I'm lactose intolerant, so I add syrup to it to make it tasty.

24000 steps

>>76325931
>I'm lactose intolerant, so I add syrup to it to make it tasty.
how the fuck does syrup make it lactose free?

>>76325951
It's concentrated syrup, so it slows down the digestion process.

>>76325961
wtf are you fred fredburger?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbDPZ8XB6sY

>>76325449
Lmao give ONE (uno) reason as to why its better than the alternatives (frying/baking/???)

>Coworker commented that I looked slimmer and how much weight I have lost
made my day tbqhf

>>76326006
I meant worse, obviously

>>76326006
Boiling/Steaming vegetables can lead to significant nutrient loss, particularly of water-soluble vitamins like vitamin C and some B vitamins, which can leach into the cooking water.

Frying is pretty bad too as it adds a lot of unnecessary fat. Sautéed, baked, or air fried are better as they cook with minimal added fat without much nutritional loss. For pure nutrients best is usually just eating them raw.

I’m the guy that might have gyno from a month ago (245lb to 167, 5’11 22M) and I’m at 163 right now, much closer to my goal of 156 by late August when school starts.

But I don’t want to lose too much muscle in the process. If I eat 130g of protein per day plus some lifting, will I be safe?

>>76325639
>>76325831
You guys are intense, I pushed myself today and still didn't come close. I kneel.

>>76326081
1g per lb of target lean weight

>>76326066
Its insignificant nutrient loss
Airfrying burns the broccoli and creates cancerous compounds, not a fan

I appreciate your answer but I will continue to steam or boil it for a few minutes to soften it up without it overcooking as I simply eat broccoli for the taste, fibre and trace minerals

>>76326112
is baked and sauteed okay?

>>76326081
Goal LBM × 0.72g of protein a day. So if your goal is 156lbs you only need ~112g of protien a day. But a little more or less isnt going to hurt.

.72 is already the safe upper limit, you wont get any benefits from consuming more. 1g/lb of lbm/d is just to make it simplistic. Study after study had failed to show any hypertrophic benefit to consuming more than .72g/lb of lbm/d of protein even among elite athletes and lifters.

Fatty contest
TummyChocolate
5'9"
240.6lbs

>>76326127
Baking is the same as airfrying it either gets burned or it takes too long to cook so it doesn't get burned, and sauteeing; I dont want to add additional fats to my broccoli but its probably fine

>>76326129
Awesome thanks, much easier than the 130g that chatgpt recommended

>>76325128
Why? Please don't do it Anon.

>>76326112
>Its insignificant nutrient loss
Depends on the vegetable and the duration of the cooking obviously, but the nutritional loss can range from insignificant to pretty significant. If your just blanching them the nutritional loss is rather minor for example.

Consider baking at a low temperature 275F (135C) if you want an alternative that will soften them without losing the water soluble vitamins and without browning.

Do you count the calories in the cooked or the raw meat and rice?

I'm assuming the calories on the package is the raw uncooked calories, right? It doesn't specify.

>>76326167
Always weigh raw, rice usually gives the dry weight stats

>>76326167
Unless otherwise specified all values are usually listed in the way in which they are most commonly consumed, for meats thats cooked.

CICO July Starts today

>buy 2kg bottle of whey protein
>make a shake to try it for the first time
>mouth and throat immediately becomes itchy
>find out i have allergy to milk protein
well, at least i have a nice bottle to store other things

>>76326146
>burned
The maillard reaction is the best part of cooking, it makes vegetables and meat delicious.

>>76326112
>Airfrying burns the broccoli and creates cancerous compounds, not a fan
This is only a concern with starchy foods like potatoes, since it can produce acrylamide when burned. Not a significant issue anyway, and certainly not for vegetables like broccoli.

>>76326198
I still have a 5lb tub of chocolate coconut flavored whey protein I cant seem to throw out. They sent the wrong flavor and instead of exchanging they just sent a refund, but this shit is worth like $70 per tub. I'm just too cheap to throw it out, but it tastes awful and I cant force myself to eat it either.

>>76326205
Enjoy your burned broccoli bro, I hate it

I'm either starting to see my ribs or obliques
Either way, cool

>>76326129
nta but if you have time could you link those studies? i'd like to read them

Costco is the GOAT

how should i cook my quinoa?

>>76326198
>storing things in plastic boxes
ngmi

>>76326329
>eating so much that costco is cost effective

>>76325708
My fat intake was actually consistently under my target since I air fry everything now. I try to shoot for 40g a day but without whole milk I was only getting like 10~20g since I'm not adding oil to my cooking anymore.

Whole milk also just taste so much better than the reduced fat milks too. I'm hooked.

>>76326390
You can freeze food numb nuts

>>76326220
I will, and I hope you enjoy your bland, mushy, and nutrient deprived broccoli, I hate it.

>>76325128
you wont no balls

>>76326412
Frozen meats and vegetables taste like shit. You can't freeze food without destroying either the flavor or texture unless you flash freeze it fast enough that the ice crystals don't grow large enough to damage the cellular structure. Fresh meat and veggies are so much better than reheated frozen shit.

>>76326433
frozen peppers and onions are good

>>76326433
someone gave me frozen peas and baby carrots and I just steamed them real quick, gave it a bit of butter, spices and herbs and it was good. Much better than canned peas which are always mushy.

>>76326433
>>76326462
I like frozen strawberries, I pop a few in my mouth before I run and let them thaw in there. It helps me stay cool during my run and they're sweet and delicious like that, low calorie treat too.

>>76326405
my fat intake is pretty low, maybe I could. After drinking the milk I was pretty much satiated for the entire day, which I've never experienced since dieting.

>>76326433
Smooth brain as fuck

>>76326216
make a protein pudding or overnight oatmeal

keep forgetting I'm on a diet if I'm not browsing this thread or other fitness related content on a daily basis

>>76326478
I fell into that pitfall of lowering my fat too much and i was starving all the time, around 40g is the sweet spot for me it seems

>>76326093
Polar targets serious athletes, so I reckon they probably do less calorie overcounting than the likes of Huawei

>>76326579
>I fell into that pitfall of lowering my fat too much and i was starving all the time, around 40g is the sweet spot for me it seems
smart anon. thank u and lemme kiss u

>>76326562
now you why Judaism has all those rules that make no apparent sense. Kikes would forget that they're kikes without those routines.

>>76326531
I tried putting it in a fruit smoothie and in yogurt, hoping those would help mask the flavor, but it still completely overpowers everything with this arresting and revoltingly artificial coconut flavor, its just too much for me to countenance. I already don't like coconut, but this fake stuff they used to flavor this is somehow even worse. I'm probably going to end up dumping the tub, but it feels like such a waste to throw it out even if I got a refund for it already. Maybe if I put a single scoop into a large stew or something, dilute it enough inside something with a strong flavor that can overpower and mask it, I dunno, might just make whatever I put it in taste disgusting no matter how diluted it is. Or I could just put it in water, hold my nose, and choke it down. It really is detestable though.

>>76325267
Hi hatboy, hope you're doing well. Good to see you.

Nothing new to report, but steady weightloss. If my next vacation doesn't set me back too much, I should be at my goal mid August.

It's crazy how much less I'm sweating now after losing 23kg. So that's why skinny people like summer huh?

>>76326645
>If my next vacation
Hello Ur-o, as an American Ill never know that feel of having multiple vacations in a year... Life is a little rough right now, but at least I got my cardio to give me endorphins.

>>76325503
Try this for a simple stir fry:
- 1 onion, 1 clove of garlic
- 1 tsp chili paste or 1 chili chopped or chili flakes
- protein of choice, cut into bitesized pieces
- 1 bell pepper (optional)
- half a broccoli or more
To prep, skin the onion and garlic, press garlic, cut onion into 6-9 large chunks. Cut the protein. Cut bell pepper either into large pieces or strips. Cut the broccoli rosettes off, and half the larger ones. If you want, peel the stem and cube it too.
In a wok or large pan, add some oil and cook your protein until almost done. Add the onion chunks, give it a quick mix. Add the broccoli, give it another big mix. If the pan is too hot, splash some water into it. Cook until the broccoli is somewhat soft. Add the bell pepper and mix, give it 2 minutes or so, just to soften. Meanwhile in a small bowl or cup, add 1 tsp starch (any starch works, cornstarch is decent), 1 tsp broth powder (veggie or broth powder), the chili paste, optionally half a tsp of sugar (skip for dieting, but it adds to the flavor otherwise). Add some cool water to dissolve and mix so the starch is all mixed up. Put the garlic in and quickly mix so it doesn't burn. Pour the sauce over your ingredients and QUICKLY mix it all around, the sauce should become thickened and cling to the ingredients, within a minute you're done. Pour onto a plate, top with spring onion for visual interest if wanted, or a few drops of roasted sesame oil if you have it for flavor - if not, enjoy as is.
The broccoli will mostly be a vehicle for the flavor of the sauce now, and your dislike of the aroma will not matter I promise.

>>76326682
Less sweating, no more chafing of your thighs, almost like being fat is miserable.

>>76326682
>>76326791
now i understand why i sweat more after gaining 15lbs
even more motivation to lose it back

>>76326798
Well welcome then, you're in the right place to lose it again anon.

>>76326791
You just reminded me of how id always get an inner thigh rash when I was fat lol

>>76326813
I like to go hiking and at my fattest I'd get these rashes all the time to the point where I'd be in severe pain on the end of day 1 and usually actively bleeding on day 2 from it opening up.
I remember one time I bled so much it soaked through my underwear and pants and I had to stop the hike to get medical treatment.
All the more reason to fucking lose that weight and make sure it never comes back.

I don't want to be skinny, it's scary because people talk to me now and ask me to do thing and all I want to do is sit I side alone. People never asked me to do shit when I was obese.

>>76325214
>canned salmon
i seriously hope you guys don't do this.
>>76325158
sometimes you've got to shock your body to get through a stall. you can either cut more calories or increase the intensity of your exercise. both seem to work well. i recently had to change my daily limit to just 2000 calories to get through one. i'm not enjoying this but getting to that level was my long term goal anyway, so i'm okay with it. losing 2lbs a week again now.
>>76325241
i don't like cilantro but it doesn't taste like soap to me. it just tastes bad and i don't know why so many people love it. i must be some kind of genetic freak.

>>76326849
You can lose it all if you just take things one day at a time for long enough. Im literally unreconizable from when I started. Now when I go to my apartment's gym, Im always the biggest guy there and not in a bad way anymore.

>>76325336
this is why nuts are bullshit. i can't just eat 10 fucking cashews. if i'm eating cashews it's going to be two big handfuls at least and that's like 15000 calories. i'll sit there and eat a whole container of peanuts like it's nothing. that's why i can't have nuts in the house.

>>76325636
yeah

>>76327002
I'm aware anon, I lost it all once before years ago. I was in a very bad mental state back then, so I just regained it over time and this time around I'm doing it much healthier (both physically and mentally), but I do remember how amazing it felt to be healthy and not have to worry about shit like that. In the meantime I found that buying very long boxer shorts that cover the thighs (which exist for athletes I think) help with reducing the friction and sweating enough that in the meantime I can hike and walk to help with the weightloss. Just not easy to find those long ones because they are usually for athletes and athletes are rarely obese, but I found some that fit me thankfully.

>>76327016
>I'm aware anon, I lost it all once before years ago. I was in a very bad mental state back then, so I just regained it over time
Ive gone through that cycle over and over. When things get bad Id slip back and lose all my progress. Last year I had a really tough year, but it was the first time I didnt slide back into obesity. Just know theres hope to break that cycle.

>>76327000
The gene in question is OR6A2, there are several variants, the group with the most people who dislike cilantro describe its flavor as 'soapy' but those aren't the only individuals who dislike cilantro, just the group with the strongest dislike for it.

>>76327024
>Just know theres hope to break that cycle.
Thanks anon.
The big thing that changed is last time I did it I was deeply depressed and frequently both derealized and depersonalized. Dieting back then was both a desperate attempt to regain some control over my life, and a way to channel my self-hatred into punishment.
I've been to therapy since and feel like a different person, I enjoy life again and I can't remember being happier. It was probably foolish to attempt to build a skyscraper on a unsteady foundation as I did my first attempt, but I at least know now I can do it again - and this time the foundation is much sturdier.
Wishing you the best too, we're all gonna make it. I'm already happier than I've ever been while fat, I can't imagine the euphoric heights I'll reach when that's gone too.

>>76326334
cook it just like you would rice, it's basically the same thing.

>>76327040
>It was probably foolish to attempt to build a skyscraper on a unsteady foundation as I did my first attempt, but I at least know now I can do it again - and this time the foundation is much sturdier.
I disagree. You did your best and it led you to today. It got you one failure closer to success and you probably learned alot of valuable lessons youre employing now.

>I'm already happier than I've ever been while fat, I can't imagine the euphoric heights I'll reach when that's gone too.
Same. No more asthma, no more acid reflux, no more heart pain. Being healthy is life changing.

2 meals a day are legit. If you don't snack in between two meals is more than plenty to have you feel satisfied.

How unhealthy is water fasting actually?
Does the body not start some calorie conservation mode when you starve it?

>>76327108
>How unhealthy is water fasting actually?
Fine for short durations (72h every other week or so). Just make sure you get enough electrolytes. You'll lose LBM alongside the fat which is why its typically not recommended or desirable, as LBM is 10x as hard to gain as fat is to lose. Try PSMF instead, you'll lose fat at a similar rate, but your LBM losses will be minimal, pic related.

>Does the body not start some calorie conservation mode when you starve it?
No, Read: https://physiqonomics.com/eating-too-much/#Starvation_Mode_Metabolic_Damage_and_Slow_Metabolisms_OH_MY

>>76327108
Fasting doesn't work

>>76326589
What is with the chink shit?

>>76327131
PSMF is definitely the better choice, but its not too tough to fit 3 meals and snacks into a deficit

meal prep update
the week's worth of chicken breast I cooked is dry as fuck and apparently you're supposed to salt beans while you cook them for flavor (which i didn't do) so they're a bit bland too
is this a problem? no, I'm gonna eat it anyway! not sure if the chicken breast being dry can be helped anyway since it's going into the microwave.

>>76327214
>chink
It's Japanese, and I presume he's learning the language

Little bit of a blog post but I saw a photo of myself from a wedding 4 weeks ago and I noticed a big belly I didn't realize I had. Decided to diet for the first time I've been lifting (forever) and managed to cut 14lbs in 3-4 weeks. Its epic because I never did it.

All I did was:

-Play basketball (which I enjoy) 4 times a week instead of 1-2
-Walk for a little bit more during my walks I do anyways (which I enjoy)
-Push back food cravings. I'm rich so I used to just eat whatever but I've gained the willpower to skip meals. No real conscious fasting but I did he 20 hours a couple time and did an entire day once (Probably 32 hours total). Keep in mind it is fake fasting because I usually drink energy drinks or coffee with milk

It was 212lbs-198lbs so far at 6'0. Even lost 3 lbs from last Thursday to today without torturing myself

>>76327260
I also stopped getting hammered twice a week and only do it once a week (1.5k calories of alcohol in 1 night usually)

>>76325693
I see you too are aware of how good the Broccoli stalks are. Lots of people just toss them and only use the florets.

>>76325111 (OP)
>still like 18kg overweight despite losing 33kg so far
>but after 8 months of at-home strength training my arms are starting to get to the point they look clearly muscular even with the fat, my calves are basically solid beef, and my posture is decent from my core/back work
it feels kind of terrible to still have such a big gut and borderline moobs but at least i know when i finally chip away at the last of them there's gonna be solid gains waiting to greet the world through my new body fat %

>>76327233
>the week's worth of chicken breast I cooked is dry as fuck and apparently you're supposed to salt beans while you cook them for flavor (which i didn't do) so they're a bit bland too
both problems can be solved with salt. Next time you cook beans cook them with a little salt. You can also add salt to your beans after the fact too. For chicken breast it can really help if you brine the breasts in a solution of water, salt, and a little sugar before you cook them. Look up online to find ratios and time. You can get away with as little as a couple hours of brining the breasts depending on the salinity of the brining solution. Though overnight brining works well too.

>>76327233
Chicken takes a bit of getting used to to cook properly if you're unfamiliar with your stove/oven to avoid drying it out but you can do stuff like marinade it to help with the flavour and give it more liquid to make over-cooking it take longer. Beans you need to season the boiling water for to flavour, yeah, even if you're doing a sauce or stew or something with them after.

22 hours into a 3 day fast, feeling great.
Hunger really isn't that big of a deal. you get used to it. I've started feeling really good during fasts so I'm actually happy that I'm doing this right now instead of shoving my face with food.

I am short on my protein and calories. It is too hot to cook.

>>76327788
That's what shakes are for. But better to be under than over.

Can I replace the jogs with kettlebell swings?

>>76327764
brutal undiluted cope. do a real diet

>>76327797
yea, I need more. A shake and 418g of canned salmon is just going to have to do the job. Not even freaking hungry.

Wholesome picture from last year. I look way more jacked now.

>>76327803
Cardio is about heart rate, so anything that lets you hit and maintain zone2 is ideal.

>just be hungry for the rest of your life
I don't know if I can do this, mang.

>>76327804
put the fork down, tubby
when I'm down to 14% bodyfat in a month or two I'll make sure to post the before and after. you don't know shit about losing weight

>>76327887
>thinking your journey is everyone other anons journey

calm your shitty fatty

>>76327897
>journey

>>76327887
Not that anon, but don't fast yourself into a skinnyfat situation. That takes longer and is harder to get out of than just fat. On a reasonable calorie deficit a motivated person can lose a pound of fat in about 3 days. A motivated person can build a pound of muscle in about 30 days.

Why does Strava keep telling me I'm either in recovery or neuromuscular power zones when I do walking/running/biking?

Ate clean for the past four days, and today, like clockwork, the intrusive thoughts started seeping in. Passed a CVS on the way back from work and had started rationalizing. Need some toiletries, got a free month of the membership discount, where's the harm in walking in?

But thank god I managed to stop myself earlier than usual. A box of Mike and Ike's, two Reese's cups, a greek yogurt sorbet bar, and a protein bar.

Cannot believe that's approximately 900 calories of junk. I had another hour of gluttony in me easily.

But other than that, only had vegetable soup and a little half n half in the coffee, the day is salvageable.

>>76327950
fitness gadgets and trackers are notoriously unreliable and kind of a meme

>>76327995
>Passed a CVS on the way back from work and had started rationalizing. Need some toiletries,
bro don't buy shit like that in drug store chains, you are throwing money away.

>>76327887
Im probably already around 14% to be honest. About to hit the bike for an hour or two while I play Zelda botw after I finish this OSCP module.

>>76328004
just going there until the free month of membership runs out and $30 in rewards runs out.
i also got a $6k bonus at work last month which will never happen again, and I'd enjoying not worrying about money for the first time, and last time for the foreseeable future

>>76328015
What the fug is a CVS membership lel

>>76328023
Also what are you going to buy at CVS that will make you fat. Overpriced candy?

>>76328023
basically every business is now offering a membership program of some kind. there was no reason to pass up a free $30
>>76328033
yes

>>76328046
Fair not trying to delve too deep in the fat mind. This might sound retarded and pointless but my best advice is do not buy snacks or sweet treats. Don't have them in your house. Do not do it. Its easy. Eat meals. No sweat treats. You know you'll eat those 6 donuts in 1 day. No sweat treats

>>76327997
How do I actually figure out whether I'm at "zone 2" or not? Is that just a meme?

>>76328135
Zone 2 means you can carry a conversation while doing it. Zone 3 means youd be breathing heavily trying to talk.

I'm not hungry right now but I really want to eat. I ate my calories for the day though. What should I do?

>>76328219
Sip a diet soda.

>>76328135
Zone 2 is labeled "fitness zone" on this chart.

Basically you take your maximum heart rate (210-your age) then multiplying that number by .6 for the zone 2 floor, and .75 for the zone2 ceiling. So if you're 25 for example: Maximum heart rate: (210-25)=185BPM, Zone2 floor at 111BPM and ceiling at 138BPM.

You can figure out your heart rate by pressing your fingers to your pulse and counting how many beats you can count in a minute (or count them for 15 seconds and multiply by 4) or by buying a heart-rate monitor (they're fucking cheap), most fitness equipment will have heart rate tracking built in, smart watches will usually have it as well.

>>76328212
>>76328257
Gotcha anons
I think post cardio I'm usually around 130 bpm or so which is between zone 2 and 3

>>76328219
nicotine pouch/mint/gum and hot drink (even just hot water).

>>76326579
Yeah, adding whole milk to my protein smoothie fixed my fat intake. I do omad, this was my calories for today. I try to shoot for 1500 kcal with 40g of fat and 150g of protein minimums, didn't quite hit it today but was pretty close. Smoothie was very filling today, I still feel stuffed.

I will not and shall not accept the faggot term kcal when you can just write cal and get the same meaning. You are fucking retarded and not special for making the abbreviation longer

>>76328219
drink some water and go for a walk.

>>76328219
adjust your diet. Your body is telling you are missing something.

For now, just fap, you are probably just bored.

>>76328495
I was watching a TV show while playing a video game
>>76328235
>>76328347
I'll just do one of these

>>76328489
Calorie is a scientific unit of energy. The food calorie maps to the scientific calorie by a 1:1000 ratio. Referring to a food calorie as a kcal makes it unambiguous what you're referring to.
Personally I'm autistic so it just helps keep things better organized.

Somehow I feel more bloated and flabby now that I'm dieting, exercising, and lost 20 lbs than I did before. Is it just because I'm more aware of it?

>>76328622
resistance training can cause increased water retention

I think I'm gonna start doing 1hr of cardio everyday instead of 30min, starting today.

Getting to 10% bf is a pain in the ass once you're below 15%, I'll just copy what pro bodybuilders do for their 5-6 week show prep.

I'm already lifting 6x a week and doing 30min of incline treadmill 4x a week, only issue is that my calves start hurting after 25-30min, might just do 30min incline and 30min stair master to see what happens.

my loose skin feels disgusting I wanna puke just touching it. i can't believe my body is so permanently fked up from a year of binge eating.

>>76328622
If you stomach stops resting on your body you become a lot more aware of it.

If you are a water gainner like myself it does make you feel sloppy when you are extra hydrated

>>76328508
No normal person has, or ever will, refer to a scientific calorie in normal everyday life. They will always mean a food calorie so feel free to call them cals from now on and drop this kcal faggotry. Hope that helps your autistic ass.

Just went from 180.5kg to 177.7kg in a week. Started life style change bout 6 weeks ago and went started somewhere around 185kg.

Feeling good on a Wednesday yayaya

>>76325120
>dude summer is the season to go out and meet chicks
Fuck that, I'm waiting for autumn.

t. coping about not having beach body

I went from 160kg down to 90kg by cutting back to 2000 kcals, but now I've been plateauing for months and I realized after recalculating my TDEE I've hit the point where if I want to progress further I'll have to either eat even less or start trying to make up a deficit through exercise. Yet now I'm so used to eating 2000 kcals a day and my current exercise has become routine I don't think I'm ready to cut back even further or do even more. Cutting back from unlimited calories and not giving a fuck to counting everything and limiting myself to 2000kcals has already been a struggle for me, I've had good days and bad, but over the past year I've had more good than bad and gotten where I am now thanks to that. But man cutting back even further to 1500 kcals seems really hard and so much more restricting.

How do you ex-fatties do it? I thought I could just coast on 2000 kcals all the way down to being skinny, but I'm still fat and not getting any thinner anymore. This second transition to an even lower target seems almost as harder than the first because I've been at 2000 kcals for so long, my regular recipes and dinner plans will all have to be dialed back. I've gotten into a routine and I'm comfortable again dammit.

>>76328982
Just out of interest, how much do you exercise? 2k being maintain calories sound krazy if you do gym 3-4 times a week + some cardio.

>>76328982
Yup it gets harder the closer you get to your goal due to your BMR falling along with the weight. Try going down by a few hundred cals, watch progress and adjust further as necessary

>>76328952
>180kg
jesus christ

>>76328994
I walk around the neighborhood for an hour everyday and lift 4 times a week. I don't have a gym near by so I do it at home.

>>76326691
I feel for you, Yankee boy. And it's crazy how your mood and outlook on life and things changes with regular exercise. There's no such thing as objectivity, might as well put on the pink cardio glasses

Went from fat to chubby to slightly chubby. Won't quit until i reach twink aesthetics.

>>76329180
You'll be giving chubbys left and right then, keep going

Last year I told myself I'd lose 100 pounds. A year has passed and I only lost 45 pounds. Was I too hopeful and should I be happy with my progress, or should I kill myself in shame?

>>76325251
Not that anon but for me carnivore is just the flip side to veganism, another form of retardation. Like why wouldn't you eat lentils or beans? Those things are basically superfoods (and cheap too). Never mind some veggies that might just add taste, texture and some extra satiety to a meal.

>>76329271
You are ngmi with that attitude, you lost 45lbs and you're unhappy.

>>76329271
The former, assuming you're still going.

>>76329282
This was supposed to be my year. The clock is ticking and I'm at the age where being fat poses serious health risks.

>>76329285
I'm still going. Better luck next year I suppose.

>>76329288
Age? Height? Weight?

>>76329160
Good morning, fren. Yeah, without out the endolphins swimming about in my head, id be more in a slump than I am currently, but its all good, got to have rain to appreciate the sun.

>>76329288
>The clock is ticking and I'm at the age where being fat poses serious health risks.
I know the feel. I tell myself as long as I make it to twink mode before I hit 40 I'll be okay. Which in my case is less than 2 years away, but I think I can make it (and the damage up to this point also wasn't too bad I think, even at my fattest I never weighed in beyond ~110 kg @ 180 cm).

>>76329291
33, 6 feet, 266 pounds

>>76329288
>I'm at the age where being fat poses serious health risks.
Im 36, how old are you that you're worried about a fat attack?

>>76329302
Guess that answers my question. You are 1 lb shy of where I started back in March.

>>76329303
33. I'm not just worried about heart issues, I know that cancers are more likely to develop in obese people.

>>76329271
I used to be able to lose 10lbs per month, but now I can barely handle 3-5. It is what it is.

>>76328900
I am not going to stop using the correct term just because you are too retarded to understand it.

>>76329309
Cancer can be defeated with a strong alkaline based diet, throwing that out there to the void

>>76329328
I'd rather not have cancer to begin with.

>>76329271
Around a pound a week is a slow, but good, sustainable pace. Two pounds is about the safe upper limit. It's a bit different if you're a 500pound behemoth, but for most people, super rapid loss causes more issues long term than a slow long burn

>>76329328
>The alkaline diet focuses on consuming foods that are believed to promote an alkaline environment in the body, primarily emphasizing fruits, vegetables, nuts, and legumes while avoiding meat, dairy, and processed foods. However, the scientific basis for the diet's claims about altering body pH and preventing disease is largely unproven.
Why does everyone shill some new pet fad diet with wild claims but no real supporting evidence these days? Seems every week I hear about some new fad diet that's supposed to fix everything only for it to be yet another one of these.

>>76329339
This kind of pseudoscience killed Steve Apple

>>76329323
This is just one of those times when autism isn't a superpower.

>>76329328
lmao green tranny being retarded as usual

>>76329375
How's your fat loss going?

>>76329349
He famously got meme'd into some fruit only fad diet, believed it was the magical solution to all health problems and the secret to eternal youth and longevity, then died of cancer 20 years later even after stealing a kid's kidney.

Yeah, there is evidence that minimally processed foods are better for you than ultra processed slop, but everyone already knew that grilled chicken and a side of broccoli was probably healthier for you than fried chicken with a side of oreos. Everything else I've seen is mostly is pseudoscience bullshit or inconclusive studies on how seemingly everything you eat MAY, in some groups, be linked with a MODERATE increase in cancer risk under specific circumstances, or how ______ might slightly reduce cancer risk, but nothing actually conclusive.

Why does green tranny think anyone wants to talk to it or see what it has to say

I broke my fast early. I wanted to do 48 hours but I did like 43.5 or something. it was alright though. I didn't stuff my face this time.

>>76329393
That bad, huh? CICO, fren, you may make it one day.

>>76329387
Agreed, there's no point in getting too autistic about it (which is also why I think people need to really avoid extreme diets like veganism or carnivore), because you're not going to find any conclusive evidence pointing to any one diet as the one diet to rule them all.
Common sense like avoiding most of the poison (added sugars, syrup, seed oils, fried foods, etc) from processed foods will get you as far as we can reasonably go. Anything more than that will require a complete revolution of science into microbes and gut biome, which in turn would probably require a revolution of the entire food industry (since it is entirely contingent on selling you addictive and harmful things).

>>76326791
i still get chafing in my thigh gap desu

Tomorrow I will be under 79kg for the first time in a long, long time.

>>76329428
I have yet to see any evidence against seed oils, that shows they're harmful. Maybe they lack the benefits of something healthy as olive oil, but notthing that credibly suggests they're "poison". In fact, it seems to be a pretty good filter that someone is deep in the broscience bubble.

>>76329387
Yeah. If you have cancer, by all means switch to a healthy diet if it gives you strength, but please in addition to actual treatment.

Already 2 lbs below my fattycontest check in from Saturday. Its gonna be a good week.

If I keep up the pace I've been maintaining since March, I'll be right around 200lbs when I leave for a big trip in October. Something to help keep me focused.

At this point the food and exercise feel like such a routine that I dont even feel like I am restricting myself..my only issue is poor sleep quality. I am waking up after 6hrs of sleep still tired but unable to go back to bed.

Imagine taking any advice, let alone health advice, from someone with a 50+ bmi?

Why do people like this come into these threads thinking theyre qualified to give advice lmao

>>76325111 (OP)
What's better for weight loss, 30 minutes of running or 60 minutes of incline walking? Is there much of a difference?

>>76329488
>highly processed
>zero antioxidants
>something about linoleic acid contributing to insulin spikes
>seed oils are PUFAs that oxidize easier than other oils and damage the cells in your body
idk that's what I got after a cursory search. be mad at the internet about it. personally I'd say if you want to avoid 'em it's probably a good idea to do so, but maybe avoid oil all together. can't go wrong with beef tallow or coconut oil.

>>76329514
Whichever sets your heartrate into zone2 the longest.

>>76329552
Lower - 112.8
Higher - 131

I'll see if my heart rate reaches that later

>>76329488
You don't even have to listen to any bro science, it should be pretty intuitive. Its baked into most of the calorically dense, overall shitty things you can find in the grocery store. You already know that olive oil is better, and you also know that things like butter or tallow are fine in moderation. At that point why consume anything made with these shitty industrial waste tier oils, regardless if you've seen enough good studies about it? You can't really go wrong cutting it out.

On track to hit 100kg by Christmas.
Might be able to do it by mid-late October but that's a big might.

>>76329328
>Cancer can be defeated with a strong alkaline based diet

Sure is reddit in here, vax bloods confirmed

>>76329730
Basededdit confirmed

>>76329730
Söyeddit confirmed

>>76329740
Embarrassing.

>>76329735
>>76329740
I saw it

>>76329746
Im saved on your phone
>>76329747
Söyeddit doubled

>>76327007
You need to make it harder to find cashew

>crashed and burned at a dead end
>up 5 kilos in as many weeks
>don't even enjoy it
This is it, this time I'm gonna become a real hero

Not losing weight on the scale but clothes are getting looser. I don't lift or do any exercise either so it isn't muscle gain. This has been going on for almost 2 months. How and why? Did I break my scale or something?

>>76330103
You're lying. That's how.

>>76330125
I'm not though. I have an old favorite shirt that I want to fit in again. 2 months ago it was much tighter than it is now and my weight has not changed at all. My scale is kinda fucked and starts at 10kg instead of 0 so it might actually be broken desu

Time to fet a great workout in lads, no excuses.
WAGMI

>>76330144
Sounds like you're an incompetent and lying buffoon, anon was right
>doesn't mention his fucked ups scale even if he is aware of the problem
>is too stupid to get a normally working scale

>>76325669
maybe he's eating the peel for extra fiber

>overeat today
AHHH

>>76330144
Buy a new scale.
>>76330180
I got drunk as fuck last night and I feel bad about it now. Scale didn't go up, but it also didn't go down and I feel lousy.

>>76330180
Eat less
>>76330190
Don't drink

>>76330195
Easier said than done.

>>76330161
The scale has been starting at 10kg for years and it tracked my weight loss fine when I started losing weight though. I don't really think my scale is the problem, personally.

>>76330198
Easier done than not

it happened again
its over i overate again
after coming from the gym i get so sad and i don't know how to deal with it other than eating bunch of food

>>76329488
>deep in the broscience bubble.
good. dont be science based. listen fo based science (bro science).

How do my fellow fatties deal with the all or nothing mentality? I have a really bad case of it. Even when I'm on a high calorie limit like 2000, which I'm doing now, I keep thinking "well I can't eat anything because it's all so calorie dense!" and I wind up getting really down on myself. There doesn't seem to be much point in eating anything unless I can eat a lot of it so I think I can't eat anything, which is stupid of me.

>>76330295
Well firstly youve identified the behavior which is important. Now the next step is to just do what you know is right instead of what feels right until it becomes second nature.

I am on a extreme caloric deficit for a month now. I keep browsing /ck/

>>76330253
same
Lifting ends up being easier than cutting out stress eating

Tomorrow I'll probably be under 78.9kg for the first time in more than a year. Feelsgood.jpeg

>>76330314
you like going to /ck/ to see your goyslop?

I heard they are making a comeback with blueberry oreos.
I want to try it but I don't want a whole box

>>76330152
Just got in from my walk, I feel exhausted.

Where is the So hungry bro? I'm concerned

>>76330350
she probably left because I didn't give her enough kisses. might have gotten jealous for kissing other /fatnons

Not gonna look myself in the mirror for an entire month to shock myself
>But muh body dysmorphia
Don't believe in that

>>76329328
>strong alkaline based diet
does sour gummies count as high alkaline?

>>76330360
You already have vody dysmorphia that's the irony

>>76330342
Well done.

23000 steps
feels good

Tried doing protein ice cream affogato for breakfast. So fucking good. 80 calories and 10g of protein. Just a scoop of protein ice cream with a shot of espresso.

>>76330476
>Just a scoop of protein ice cream
which protein ice cream do u use?

>>76330491
I made it from almond milk and chips ahoy flavored ghost protein using a creami

Addicted to watching food videos on youtube despite not feeling hungry

>>76330502
>I made it from almond milk and chips ahoy flavored ghost protein using a creami
hey are you the ghost anon?

you are such a cutie and i love seeing you here. WAGMI on the fat loss

>>76330580
No I'm not, don't reply to me again you disgusting tranny

>>76330295
you can always eat a lot of broccoli. boring ass plain steamed broccoli with no butter or sauce. just go crazy. eat as much as you want. you'll be like, "man, i hate broccoli. this sucks."

>>76330645
or you can add salt, pepper, and garlic and make it delicious

>>76329511
there are actually a bunch of gym bros who come into these threads when they're trying to lose the last 10lbs before they can see their abs. some of them used to be fatties and their experience and advice is extremely valuable. even regular-sized people who used to be fat have very helpful things to share.

>>76330314
There's better ways to spend your time bernd, but I'd be lying if I acted like I didn't get the appeal.

>>76330580
Yes, also yakuza anon. Thank you. WAGMI. Im at the final stretch. Got 10 lb before japan.

>>76330502
Look into stabilizers/gums for your creami, that stuff turned me from a mild ninja enjoyer to a fanatic.

>>76328982
time to look really hard at your food choice. got to reduce the amount of oil you're using when you cook, choose leaner meats, cut out all the slop and sugar and then replace with more veggies and low-calorie alternatives. that way you will still feel full even at a lower calorie limit.

i stopped eating ground beef and switched to lean ground turkey. i ditched all sugary snacks. i actually went through my calorie log and identified all of the instances where i ate foods that i could possibly remove from my diet to increase its efficiency just a little bit.

even removing just 200-300 calories can put you back into a deficit. that's two pieces of bread. you can surely cut or swap something out somewhere.

191.6lbs

>>76330675
I put sugar free jello pudding mix im with it actually. Also great in greek yogurt with a bit of cinnamon. Basically turns it into cinnamon roll frosting.

>be me
>go on week long break from work.
>notice I can maintain my calorie deficit way easier like I was last off from work.
>Instantly dropped 2 lbs


How the fuck do I cope with my wage cage stressing me out? Or whatever the fuck is making me overeat when I work.

>>76330694
Fruits, fibrous vegtables to fill you up. Small amounts of junk everyday to condition you away from binging and towards moderation.

I've been losing weight for 7 months now, and it's beginning to get harder (thinking more about food, hungrier, starting to feel faint at work).

>>76330531
I keep impulse-clicking on food videos too. I need to try consciously stop myself.
It also pisses me off how much oil they all use when cooking.

>>76330699
>Small amounts of junk everyday to condition you away from binging and towards moderation.
I threw out my junk.

But I always feel hungry at the end of the day.
Is there anything else mentally I can do?

>>76330709
Take a few weeks off.

>inject retatrutide
>hunger gone
>even when hungry, the desire to eat is gone
>go from 28% to sub 20% bf in 2 months
why don't you use the drugs, anon

Fatty Contest
ChrigUwU
101.8 kg

>>76330719
Add a salad to your day. Fill it with fruits and chicken and some light dressing. Have a snack thats always allowed when youre hungry. A pound of watermelon is 140 calories. 113g of greek yogurt is like 60 calories, add some sugar free jello pudding mix and cinnamon to make it taste even better. Its better to go 100 calories over your goal with a healthy snack than going to bed hungry and stressed everyday. Integrate 200-300 calories of your favorite junk food everyday to fight cravings, like a small bag of skittles. Get filling meals in everyday. I eat atleast a pound or two of turkey chili everyday.

>>76330755
I genuinely am not sure what is causing my stress, I already do have salads from now and then.

I eat like shit during these days off at work last time and having PTO this week. Which is why I think it may be something psychological.

Sure I am slightly hungry, still but I have been managing my deficit compared to how I was last week during work.

>>76330342
I've been walking around most of the day, and did an hour of juggling and calisthenics at the local park in the afternoon

>>76330820
Sounds to me like something is wrong at work or you're just plain stressed from the responsibilities of adult life. Thats totally fine and happens to everyone. Its normal to turn to food to cope, but its not good for you. Its okay to have it as an option at your total worst though. If youre about to breakdown a slice of cake is the least of your worries, but if its how you cope with the background radiation of life stress itll be a problem. All I can say is instead of having healthy eating be another responsibility, let it be something that grounds you and provides relief. A balanced diet of filling healthy foods and a bit of junk isn't just a way of getting healthier, but feeling content and an opportunity to try new foods and types of eating. Try to find a liveable deficit you can do 80% of the time for 10 week chunks, where you take 2 weeks off in between. Make sure to fit a treat into that deficit everyday so that you dont feel deprived. Eat filling well seasoned, sauced, and spiced meals that leave you satisfied from a taste perspective. Find fast and frozen foods that fit your diet in a pinch. Chickfila sandwiches and salads with light dressings work great. So do california pizza kitchen frozen pizzas.

>>76330178
Gorillamaxxing for regular poops never even crossed my mind

Fatty Contest
IhaveAids
290.5lbs
5'7"

I fucked up slightly, didn't feel like cooking so I ate a sandwich with ham and light mayo with a pear for breakfast, ate the same for dinner, then a few hours later I got really hungry and ate 2 hot dogs and chips

I think I'm starving myself to much to the point where I get really hungry and can't stop thinking of eating food, guess I should start counting calories better and making sure I actually eat 1500 a day

>>76330928
>Make sure to fit a treat into that deficit everyday so that you dont feel deprived.
HOnestly feel like I would binge eat if I buy multiple, but I could try buying small portions at a gas station.


>Eat filling well seasoned, sauced, and spiced meals that leave you satisfied from a taste perspective. Find fast and frozen foods that fit your diet in a pinch. Chickfila sandwiches and salads with light dressings work great. So do california pizza kitchen frozen pizzas.

I'll give it a go anon, thank you

>>76330981
Lmao ngmi

>>76330990
>HOnestly feel like I would binge eat if I buy multiple, but I could try buying small portions at a gas station.
Thats what I do. Either I have a fatty protein rich meal that day like a fried chicken sandwich or if all my meals were clean I have a snack size bag of skittles. I also usualy have a mid-lift and late night chupa chup lollipop

>>76327803
So you have enough grip endurance to swing it for 20 minutes?

I'm currently fasting until Friday night or Saturday morning, but after that I'm curious about those "sugar diets" where you basically consume nothing but sugar to sate appetite and thus consume low calories per day.
My only concern about this is if it'll cause risk for developing diabetes (I've never been at risk of this before, just curious).
I'm only about 30 pounds overweight so I don't imagine it would be for very long.

>>76331191
Sure anon, go ahead, eating exclusively the one macro nutrient you don't need to survive sounds immensely smart.

>>76330981
Need more context. Just eating 2 hot dogs on-top of low caloric intake for the day isn't world-ending. Going to bed hungry is not a big deal and I would do it all the time when I was poor in college. If you're eating dinner but then eating a meal after it might have something to do with you staying up later than you should be, for starters.

>three days in a row of being told by people i havent seen in a few months how much weight ive lost
>down 80lb, 20 to go
>running times down
>lifts increasing
Holy shit i may actually make it lads.

>>76331280
Youre looking really fit lately anon

>>76330342
or... you know... you could just cut 500 calories and not have to walk for 2 hours.

Is there a site where I can plug in how many calories I have left and it'll spit out a recipe or something I can eat that totals that amount? Because I have to budget my calories now my indecisive nature is keeping me from being able to decide how to effectively spend those calories. I'm being retarded I know

>>76331427
more food and cardio means more nutrients and better cardiovascular health.

>>76331443
chatgpt

>>76331427
Cutting 500 more calories would be tough. I'd much rather walk two hours than cut anything else at this point.

>get 80g of fiber
>defecit
>january to march
>lose 25 lbs idk if its water or not
>stall
>start adding in weights and cardio
>run 3 days a week (every other day) for 12 minutes - 1 hr depending on if i can bear it
>walk other 4 days a week 40 min to hr
>still 255 lbs
don't get it, is it muscle or what

>>76331527
Eat less you fat shit

>Suddenly get stomach rumbling
>Go on toilet, a stream of shit shoots from my butthole
>It doesn't really seem to stop
>1.5 kgs lighter afterwards
We take those. Time to drink a liter of water to make up for this ordeal.

>>76331471
You're doing about the same calorie cut as me - 1500 cals.

It's okay to walk that much but you were complaining about being exhausted. I usually walk about 20000 steps a day, I was just trying to help with the exhaustion not knowing your calorie cut. Obviously you wouldn't cut too much from 1650 cals a day.

>>76331549
Im actually a different anon giving my input. If hes exhausted, he should just skip the walking for a bit and not lower calories. Personally I do 1800 with an hour or two of stationary bike while I game. Also lifting.

>mother offered to buy fast food again and like a weak willed bitch I said sure and ate the slop
i'm weak
i'm weak and i deserve scorn

>>76331564
sorry, my post was meant for
>>76331515

>eat 1700 calories for two days in a row
>have to do a 1000 kcal day to compensate
bros...

What's stopping me from eating 500 calories in small snacks at work then having a 1000 calorie box of Velveeta shells and cheese for dinner when I get home and a bit of psyllium husk and water after? What's stopping me from doing that every day?

>>76331735
if it works for you then why not?

I think you will be void of nutrition so a multivitamin would be the minimum.

>>76331719
Imagine being an adult man living with your mother.

>>76331719
Just dont eat anything but the fastfood

>>76325111 (OP)
Just ate my 2 daily burgers for a crisp 40/60/60 PCF sub 1000 calories. 15lb down. i always look forward to my daily burgers. i will lose 100lb on just burgers. fuck it we'll do it live FUCK it

>>76331791
You should add an extra 2 lean turkey patties a day on the side

>>76331855
Why would I do that? I wouldn't look forward to the meal as much then. It is the only joy in my life sustaining me day to day currently. I did get some watermelon protein which is god tier though.

>>76331916
So that you get enough protein each day and dont end up in goblin moxe?

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