Do you think lifting and gaining weight would have helped Elliot Rodger get girls?

>>76327129 (OP)
It would have helped him fuck ya mudda.

>>76327132
aint dat right tone?

>>76327129 (OP)
You cant outlift that specific kind of mental illness
He has deeply rooted masculinity issues that only ego death would solve

>>76327129 (OP)
Hi... Elliot Rodger here >:)

>>76327129 (OP)
No it wouldn't help at all.
>t. gymcel manlet

>>76327129 (OP)
Elliot was decently good looking, he couldn't get girls because he was a narcissistic sperg with zero social skills.

>>76327168
>>Downplaying the supreme gentleman
The nerve

>>76327129 (OP)
He did try but got no results.
>>76327225
he was a supreme faggot

>>76327129 (OP)
No he was a bad dude he didn't have kindness in his heart bro

>>76327261
>>Implying girls don't through themselves at big bad boy Chad who smoke weed and act like an asshole

Yeah mhmhm no kindness yea

>>76327270
Touch grass my boy

>>76327281
Out at the gym lifting right now my guy

>>76327286
Shoot for the stars then my friend, u will hit the moon

he made the same mistake many people here make, refusing to actually interact with the women he so desired.

>>76327142
>deeply rooted masculinity issues that only ego death would solve
QRD on this?

>>76327129 (OP)
did he ever post physique?

>>76327302
COLD APPROACH DOES NOT FUCKING WORK FOR NON CHADS IN MODERN DATING. Elliot knew this and no girl initiating anything with them, so he was fucked. Girls will scream rape if any non Chad like Elliot cold approaches them

>>76327313
yea but it was on the misc forums, idk if someone may have saved them

>>76327315
There's no cold approach you just find similarity in situation and you are saying "I wish touch your butt cheek"

>>76327315
"cold approaching"

have you tried just talking to people like a normal social person does?

>has the confidence to start fights with guys twice his size, go to a party he wasnt invited to and insult people, shoot couples with a water gun, instigate conflict with his roommates
>couldn't say hello to a girl at all
lmao

>>76327315
Initiated anything with him*

>>76327326
He as a matter of fact did say hello to girls a few times according to his manifesto but they ignored him.

>>76327326
You don't get it bro I have the same thing
I'll do crazy shit swimming in riptides and almost got myself killed a dozen times with no fear but if I need to talk to a girl outside of formality like at work I freeze up

>>76327326
>>Hello!
>>Girl: hi :/
>>Moves on with whatever she was doing because he is not a 6"+ giga Chad

Yes I'm sure if he just said hi he would have gotten girls

Maybe, his issue was that he didn't love life

>>76327315
>>76327327
>>76327342
>>76327331
what do you make of this situation

>76327342
>>noooo bro he wasn’t chad brooo
Esl tier reading comprehension lel

>>76327377
Do you think the blonde girl would have given him a chance if he talk to her?

>>if he talk to her
Good morning

>>76327129 (OP)
No.

>>76327402
That wasn’t dreadfully short for a half rice in 2013

>>76327315
He didn't know shit. it is amazing how fear of rejection is stronger than fear of death in so many of you sad sack goofy ass clowns.

>>76327395
probably not but the fact she smiled at him means there was some chance, just based on looks. But he knew it would lead nowhere because of his social problems

>>76327302
He was a coward like most incels and probably never had the adequate situations to be around women and interact with them
There's no lift for that

>>76327509
My fear of rejection comes from actually trying multiple times and actually getting rejected and ghosted. Why would I wanna keep fucking trying over and over again and keep getting my confidence destroyed even more? In Elliot's case, he knew had no chance and didn't want to destroy his confidence even further. Women should initiate signs or express interest, which they don't in my case or Elliot's case since we are not 6"+ gigachad thundercock

>broo its so over elliot could never have made it, he was a manlet and no amount of lifting would have saved him
>>ok but did he ask women out at all?
>no bro wtf its over women only want chad so theres no point bro its just over
incels are retarded kek

>>76327313
>>76327322
It was very unsettling.

>>76327129 (OP)
I see uglier dudes than this with girlfriends and wives everyday. I dunno man, most couples are ugly. Feels like all the hot people must be living in another class so I don’t see them, or they’re all single and fucking around

the funny thing is er hated incels, he didnt even claim the lable. he thought he was above them

>>76327600
>Why would I wanna keep fucking trying over and over again and keep getting my confidence destroyed even more

its not about whether you want to or not you troglodyte its simply the human experience. if you really had tried as many times as you want me to believe then you're simply a massive fucking retard considering the absolute golems that find love. He had no chance because he was a wretched ghoul of a person. not even the shadow of a human being and you walk in his footsteps.
"too ugly" and yet it doesn't stop people
"too fat" doesn't seem to be a problem
"too short" guy a foot shorter than me married a blonde bombshell and then went on to make over 200k a year AFTER getting with her.

your failings aren't with women, its your own existence you cant cope with. Just like elliot

>>76327620
Not him but it's really just luck to find the one person you mesh with
Yeah it's easier if you're in school or have a big social group but if you're a normal guy who only goes to work and barely has time for himself wtf are you supposed to do?
I think that's what the incel problem mainly stems from

>>76327620
>>30+ year old worn out roast beef sandwiches settle for a subchad male provider
Yeah you really proved me wrong there way to go

>>76327611
he did kill his 3 nerdy roommates who were presumably incels.
And was plotting to kill his own little brother so he wouldn't end up mogging him in the future

>>76327129 (OP)
He needed humbling. He had no social skills and was unwilling to put his head down and learn. But his family was wealthy so that was never going to happen.

he should have, at the least, moved the fuck out of chad central

>>76327633
the problem is two things, one is that matters of luck are rough sure, but the more times you swing the bat the better your odds of getting that lucky one. the second is that so many of the people out there that feel like they dont have tons of time and are mentally/emotionally drained more than physically. Im not saying that literally everyone has peak free time but there are so many people that have hours of free time every day but just piss it away for fear of not spending it optimally, which is the same thing you see a lot of people that talk about going to the gym for years but never do.
>>76327641
have fun with your assumptions and making endless excuses to never get what you want out of life. just like elliot

>>76327654
Rape

>>76327652
I moved out of south Florida to a smaller town and suddenly women eye fuck me several times a week. I’m probably a 7 realistically, maybe a 8 to some girls, and I’m moderately muscular and lean enough to show a decently developed six pack. In south Florida this never happened, I would have to show explicit interest 99% of the time. This is not a larp.

>>76327302
The ego rationalises a worldview from existing perceptions. Ever notice how any loser has miles of cope for why they can't do something? Not just incels but addicts, sluts, bad parents, bums, etc.

To massively oversimplify things this is what keeps mental illness going, and why intelligent people stay depressed longer. You need to expand your horizons with new experiences and facts, make your ego humble to nature.

>>76327129 (OP)

If you think his looks were the problem he didn't got laid, you are dumb as fucking fuck

Dude looked decent, was from a wealthy family with connections, drove a nice car, and still couldn't get laid. He was a dumb useless rich kid who had everything held on a silver plate, and he still coulnd't fuck a girl.

>>76327712
He was not in a wealth family. His dad was in a financial crisis and couldn't even pay his car insurance. Nice cars aren't enough if you aren't Chad

>>76327712
>>5'8"
>>Asian mutt
>>Decent looking
K sure...

martial arts would've

I sympathize with er I really do. Anyone would do what we did if they had his stats and upbringing

>>76327676
Lol what the fuck? I went to south florida and i got a lot of eyefucks from hot girls lol. even fucked a hot girl when i was there. bimbos love me bro. and im a mixed race asian like elliot rodger.

>>76327129 (OP)
His looks weren't the problem. He was just a creepy individual

>>76327863
But you're not a weirdo spraying people with orange juice in a supersoaker while ranting like a hysterical woman.

>>76327863
ive noticed hapas are either like very hot or ER teir looking, theres no inbetween

the fact the onus is entirely on men to approach, initiate, carry conversations, makes me feel like dating is a humiliation ritual for men.
it's like you have to face risk of public humiliation and a huge blow to your ego for the CHANCE that you might get pussy. I'd rather just jerk off honestly

>>76327901
This

>>76327901
it's sad that I knew exactly this before getting brutally rejected but still had to go and make a fool out myself. It's been 2 years now and I've thought about it everyday and have been emasculated ever since. I permanently fucked up my brain

>>76327901
This x1000

isnt his half bro like a model now too?

>>76327901
should've gotten that teen pussy in highschool of freshman year of college

>>76327866
How did they know he was creepy if they didn't interact with him?

>>76327936
Yes. Just like Elliot predicted

>>76327325
normal people don't just randomly talk to other people in public

>>76328145
Good thing that's not what he said you illiterate faggot.

>>76328159
normie retard is being a condescending prick so he gets a condescending answer back

Look up the interviews with his buddies. He'd have girls brought to his table from his friends who were into him, but he'd just mope and sit there pouting. He wasnt even bad looking and was a richfag trustfund kid with no excuses. He was a true mentalcel

>>76328161
>normie retard is being a condescending prick
How? And why didn't you just answer his question?
Here, I'll ask it again for him in case you forgot it: have you tried just talking to people like a normal social person does?
And I mean people you already know you fucking retard, so miss me with the "le cold approach" nonsense.

>>76327325
I have no problem with social interaction with guy friends. The problem is interactions with WOMEN. There is hardly anywhere you can meet women, they hardly have any fucking hobbies and its impossible to often interact with them without coming across as a creep if you aren't a chad. They are always preoccupied with something or with a friend group and don't want anything to do with you if you aren't an obnoxious bad boy Chad. They don't want to TALK or have ANYTHING TO DO WITH YOU IF YOU ARENT ATTRACTED TO THEM. I know this from experience.

>>76328183
>There is hardly anywhere you can meet women
This is just thermonuclear cope.

>>76328176
Not that guy but what does interactions with guys you already know have anything to do with getting women

>>76328187
WOMEN you already know then, jesus christ how stupid and gay are you guys?

>>76327654
Have fun importing infinity 60 IQ subhumans from the jungle because you're a male feminist gynocentric faggot who will perpetually blame men for the absolutely floored birthrates.

Those elder abuse videos make me feel terrible, but people like you will actually have it coming when some bantu tosses you around the floor then leaves you to bathe in your own shit for 3 days

>>76328185
Fucking name ONE place where you can hit on women in person without coming across as a creep as a sub chad. They don't exist. At women are always with a dude already or autistically stick with their group. Now here comes the part where you suggest salsa dancing or some stupid shit

>>76328120
Because they can tell by his body language and demeanor. Just like how it's obvious when someone is a school shooter when they're always moping around alone in a corner

>>76328198
>without coming across as a creep as a sub chad.
Note the self fulfilling prophecy at work here. But if you're a "sub chad" then just stick to your level and go after ugly or nerdy women then.
>Now here comes the part where you suggest salsa dancing or some stupid shit
Not even close, this is just more cope.
But here's an easy example, did you really not go to high school or college with any girls? Why did you not do it then?

i get youre trying to be positive but can we stop the "he was actually good looking" cope
he was dicklet, framelet, short, etc.

>>76328196
you made up an entire story about what you want my beliefs to be just so you can stay in your pathetic coma. In fact calling you pathetic would be a step up for your mongrel dog life.

>>76328217
>he was dicklet, framelet, short, etc.
Literally no woman ever saw his dick, he was a framelet because he never lifted, and there are guys much shorter than him with girlfriends.
In other words everything you just said was either his own fault or just massive cope.

As cringy as Elliot was, he was spot fucking on about women and made a lot of good points

>>76327129 (OP)

This dude was actually super funny and had a badass aura im surprised he couldn't get gitls

>>76328290
anyone can make pessimistic remarks
it's not helpful in the slightest

>>76328338
Not pessimistic, just realistic

>>76328353
He was missing the forest for the trees.

>>76327129 (OP)
no, he was like most incells, an autist who was took platitudes to heart about social skills and only saw the world through mechanistic literalism. people are taught wrong throughout our formative years by the bureaucrat minded strangers we send them to for 8 hours a day.

>>76328227
>made up
Yeah yeah, everyone is having sex out there buddy. Please ignore those stats, some of them suggesting 40% havent got any in 1yr+. Just keep sitting on the lid and hope there's zero societal consequences to this at all

>>76327901
>the fact the onus is entirely on men to approach, initiate, carry conversations, makes me feel like dating is a humiliation ritual for men.it's like you have to face risk of public humiliation and a huge blow to your ego for the CHANCE that you might get pussy.

i mean this is definitely true. i dont mean to sound like an incel but it really is quite crazy to think about the imbalance in dating of men towards women and how its basically just universally accepted, and always has been accepted, that this is how it works. it almost feels like all relationships from the first conversation through marriage and possible divorce is somewhat of a humiliation ritual for men
>man has to approach and initiate
>has to know exactly what to say to the women to hold her interest to "accept" a date with you, or she publicly rejects and humiliates you
>man has to decide the dates and also pay for all of it
>women gets to decide if you get the honor of having sex with her
>usually, men are expected to have everything on their side too, looks, hobbies, career, money, be interesting and social, etc. while women are expected to have and contribute quite little
>eventually in marriage, if divorce happens, men are the ones who lose everything

The reality and truth is somewhere in between the incel blackpill hyperbole whining and the self improvement junkie "self ownership" shit. You can in fact not be a "chad" and get results, but women have observably gotten more picky, choosey, and difficult to obtain as a result of dating apps and social media. It simply takes a larger degree of effort, and you probably will get a lower quality woman if you tuck your chin and give it your all, than the grade of woman you would've gotten 20 years ago by being the exact same person you are right now.

I'm an oldfag in his 30s now, but I'm in the loop with young guys who are better looking than I was at their age, charming guys too, who are HAULING ASS to get girls worse looking than the girls I got at their age. Hypergamy and hoeflation is very real, no matter what anyone says. Again, you can still do it, and there's guys punching above their weight with good looking girls I see every day, but there's simply just less of a supply due to women becoming more fat, flaky, and having a shittier attitude than how I remember them.

I don't really blame a 7/10 guy for checking out if the best he can obtain is a 5/10, since his 7/10 female counterpart is going to be extremely gassed up and have an ego that can hardly fit through a door frame.

he was actually ripped

>>76328213
>go to high school
>sit alone in the back of class
>eat lunch alone in the stairway
>sit alone in the back of class
>school ends
>if a school club is going on, attend club, sit in corner doing my own work
>if not, go straight home without talking to or hanging out with anyone
>go to my room and do some studying, eat some dinner
>sleep
>repeat for several years and then for several years again in college
Wow so hard, idiot

>>76328434
UH OH INCEL MELTY

All hail supreme gentleman er

>>76328593
>i willingly denied myself social interaction by being passive and doing nothing all the time and now i have no girls! waaagh this is so bad!
quite literally a (you) problem lmao

>>76329114
Everyone is told to be proactive and talk to people but somehow no one(girl) ever talked to me
It's not a matter of being yourself but more of a matter of being good looking and gaining confidence from past experiences one got due to their looks

>>76327129 (OP)
Probably not, because he wasn't a bad looking guy, he could have easily gotten girls. His problem was the same as many other incels: a horrible personality.

>>76327291
Lil gup should consider himself lucky to end up in the tree tops with that attitude lmao lol.

>>76327132
Ohhhh! You can't talk to OP like that, he's a captain now!

>>76329257
>horrible personality
As opposed to lying and manipulative chads

>>76327901
The modern “man”, everyone.

>>76328593
Way to prove my point anon. Now, do you think this is what you were supposed to have been doing? Is this what school chads and other kids who had girlfriends did? I don't think so.
The fact you think this post is some kind of own or gotcha against me and not something you should be deeply ashamed of really says it all.

>>76329253
>Everyone told me to be proactive and talk to people so I did the exact opposite and then nothing happened; how can this be?!

>>76329268
Those Chads are at least able to put on a show of being interesting, sociable, or charismatic, and therefore fun to talk to. No one wants to deal with a whiney, pouty, woe-is-me faggot. No one. Not even other men.

Does ER mog you fit?

>>76327129 (OP)
If he had built a top 1% physique then yes it would have helped but the vast majority of men don't have the discipline to go that far.

What he really needed was a dating coach who tought him how to approach women. Btw all of you niggas need that too because yall never talk to girls either.

>>76329283
before swipe-based dating apps were invented (modelled on a gay casual sex app lmao), OKcupid ran a more old school system where each user had a webpage. users could rate others on looks and personality.

eventually, they simplified it down to a singular rating. the reason was that women universally liked the personality if they liked a guy's photos, and thought he had a shit personality if he was ugly

they detailed this in a development blogpost (pic related) which is now taken down

charisma is face, interesting is height

>>76329287
>dies
>coroner labels his corpse as underweight asian

B R U T A L

>>76329304
All this means is that if a chad is a boring asshole, he can probably still get away with it...but you can't. (and neither could ER)
That doesn't refute what that anon told you at all, in fact it agrees with him. So what's your point?

>>76329317
no it doesn't, the correlation goes both ways

>>76329295
He did have one, he had two dating coaches through out his life and once they didn’t get him laid after two weeks he deemed them useless lol

>>76329310
>124 pounds
Ok the mystery has been solved. No woman on this earth wants to sleep with a skinny ass bitch

>>76329322
source?

>>76327315
Idk dude it works for me. Not every girl will like you or course. Few will. Hell I try to go out a lot more and women will even try to talk to you on their own even if you’re out there enough and around stuff they’re around. Gotta put yourself out there though. Speak up at events and stuff,

>>76329275
By being ugly and awkward
My ugliness made me awkward

>>76327302
stop caring

>>76327286
thats not grass

>>76329340
BBQ I think. Maybe tomato

>>76327326
>has the confidence
has the mental illness*

>>76327901
its men own fault for this btw.

>>76327129 (OP)
No. He's was already good looking. He just never approached women except to show them he reeked of desperation and entitlement.

Women are dumb as fuck but they can still smell desperation a mile away.

>>76329261
Fr poor little guy

>>76327129 (OP)
Eh, he probably was a picky faggot who only wanted 10/10 stacies and would'nt go for a 5-6/10 skinny cutie, much like Peter Parker when he picked the evil whore Mary Jane over qtpie Ursula

>>76327315
I'm a 6/10 on a good and i had over 5 gf's from cold approaching, you got it twisted. It's the dating apps that don't work for average guys like us. Cold approach today.

>>76329527
It's meaningless talking to people with other experiences they will never get it, there's a reason the social groups always form with "nerds" and "chads". Its actually very natural and instinctual how the social dynamics are from the start. It's not only about looks either, its a combination of looks + personality that is formed during being very young and perhaps genetics, but since we are very young we "retreat" more, cope with gaming or whatever. Funny to see how the "nerds" and uglier looking guys are the ones into gaming kek.

>>76329270
Why are you acting like you’re any better, you know that this was almost exactly your own school experience word for word too.
>umm akshually I was a slayer in high school that got invited to a bunch of parties
Right that’s why you’re on an anime incel website first thing in the morning lmao

>>76329638
True but cold approach takes balls, most men will never be able to do it.

>>76327129 (OP)
you can never get strong enough to lift autism

>>76329651
>True but cold approach takes balls
I'm kinda retarded so i just go anyway

>>76329588
Oh right, the famous female “personality detector” that can’t find
>cheating asshole with two baby mamas already
>loser alcoholic that beats her up when he’s drunk (so always)
>career criminal psychopath with multiple tattoos
>drug addict bum that steals and sells her stuff
But can instantly pick out someone who is slightly awkward or desperate from a thousand yards away because, you know, they have le heckin bad personalities

>>76329663
NTA but the examples you gave are of people with high confidence, narcisissts, criminals, even low iq aggressive people will all have a better time with women than an autist who overthinks everything. Insecurity is one of the easiest things you can spot with body language, women can't detect good men, they can detect manly behaviors which turn them on.
https://psychopathyis.org/symptoms/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Testosterone
Since psychopathy and high t basically have the same symptoms, it's the reason women "go for le evil people". They are just attracted to manliness, its that simple. You can blame whoever designed this place.

my favorite passage from his manifesto.

>>76328441
>tfw the vast majority of divorces are initiated by women

I recently something funny. women NEVER initiate in a relationship, except when it comes to divorce lol

>man has to make the first move and ask her out
>man has to plan and pay for date
>man has to propose and pay for ring
>man doing basically everything

>woman decides to divorce him and gets half his shit

as I said, humiliation ritual.

>>76329693
I don't understand the biology behind women being attracted to psychopaths.

I mean, women are attracted to men who provide and protect, right? What's the psychology behind being attracted to a wife beater who gives you a black eye because his dinner was cold

>>76329693
>Insecurity is one of the easiest things you can spot with body language
So if he acted like a confident guy he would have slayed? Fuck off bro lmao

>>76329719
>What's the psychology behind being attracted to a wife beater who gives you a black eye because his dinner was cold
Yeah, women are naturally attracted to men who provide and protect — it taps into a deep biological and emotional drive for safety, stability, and leadership. But being drawn to a man who hits her because the dinner was cold isn’t about attraction in the normal sense. That’s not strength, that’s abuse, and it usually comes from psychological damage — not love. Some women grew up around abuse or neglect and internalized that pain as part of what love feels like. Others get trapped in trauma bonds, where the cycle of violence followed by apologies creates a twisted emotional dependency. They’re not staying because they’re turned on by black eyes — they’re staying because they’re broken down, afraid, ashamed, or believe they deserve it. There’s a big difference between being with someone strong and safe versus being controlled and destroyed.

>>76329638
Liar. Where are you “cold approaching” exactly? And to everyone else in the thread, I’m going to assume you aren’t basement dwelling shutins and go outside - have you EVER seen a guy “cold approach” IRL? Have you EVER seen one actually succeed? Don’t fall for this shit and humiliate yourself for no reason

>>76329651
>cold approach takes balls
you are not baiting me. you are afraid to talk to women even while pretending to act uninterested. you clown.

>>76329753
>Where are you “cold approaching” exactly?
Last two girlfriends i met at the dog walk, i just said something about their dog and we started talking
Other one was walking past my house and said hi again we got her instagram
My greek ex gf i met at the grocery store, i asked her some stupid shit about her sandwich
And a couple of girl in the gym

It's not that hard

>>76329729
thanks prompt engineer i'm bluepilled now

>>76329723
You don't understand what i'm saying, if he was higher testosterone and not a mentalcel, not only would his behavior be completely different, His body would react as well, Just being bold, not a mentalcel and jacked would've made him get laid. You retards always go in extremes, meanwhile theres stories of women cheating on their more attractive boyfriend with an old boss or something similar just because of the power dynamic. I never deny looks are important and if youre a gigachad youre gonna get approached be more confident etc. Environment,genetics determine how you will act too, Im just telling you what women are attracted to.
>>76329719
>Be in a world where literally every single organism kills each other for survival
>be woman, helpless to defend herself, have to rely on someone else
>few thousand years ago
>be with nice guy
>psychopaths come in, kill all the men, rape all the women
>women realize they have to choose the strong high testosterone guys ( again, theres not much difference when you read the traits of high t and psychopathy)
>evolutionary reproduce with the winners
>over time the women who spread their genes are the one who can spot these traits
>choose retarded wife beater because of genetics, you can even read them talking how hard it is to go away and even returning to them
>meanwhile they leave the beta guy very fast, obviously because all these years of evolution didnt go away and they can tell something is wrong
Funny thing is that they probably aren't even wrong considering how this world works, the ruthless guys have a better chance to survive when rough times come. It just doesn't make sense from a man's perspective in the current society.

>>76329719
It's very simple. Look at human history, who were the most powerful men on earth?
Guys like Ghengis Khan who massacred entire cities of men, women and children, men with no empathy. Men who just take whatever they want.

Women are inclined to be attracted to the most brutal and ruthless men because it is the most powerful survival strategy.

Why do women find it hot when a man is rough and dominant with her? Because who is that guy gonna be? Some nice guy simp or some powerful man with a lot of options?
If a man shows that he doesn't care about the woman it implies he has many women to choose from.

>>76329798
kek get a load of this fanfiction writing virgin

>>76329663
dude your hilarious. do me a favor and don't purchase any firearms.

>>76329802
You're a loser because you're too nice, that's why women don't like you anon

>>76329782
Yeah but you neglect to tell everyone how mid they are you aren’t pulling hot shit

>>76329782
>Other one was walking past my house
Right, you spend all day glued to your window with your shoes and coat on seeing if any girls walk past your house, if one does you immediately sprint out and accost them before they’ve walked off and they respond positively. This is a believable account and not something on the tier of “dear penthouse” stories uhuhuh

>>76329806
Kek, being too nice might be the biggest ick ever, not only is it bad to be a beta, but everyone knows when a guy is too nice that he's desperate and not being himself, just acting like that to make the girl like him. The ultimate form of simping

>>76329815
True, then why are you a simp?

>>76329807
hey man i'm sure you could pull hotter women then him. but you have to actually talk to women first. does that make sense. like I don't get how you gonna have SEX with them if you won't TALK to them.

>>76329806
yeah man your lack of power and status is totally why you don’t get pussy don’t worry bro you’ll workout and wagecuck your way to Gengis Khan status in a few years

>>76329821
? I'm NTA that you replied too

>>76329823
What you mean bro? I'm a 6/10 on a good and i had over 5 gf's from cold approaching, you got it twisted. It's the dating apps that don't work for average guys like us. Cold approach today.

>>76329824
I get pussy because I'm 6 foot and workout. You don't, because you refuse to understand how women's psychology works. Are you seriously arguing that power and status doesn't get women?

>>76327856
You just dont know his lore enough. And btw there are a lot of people poorer and uglier than he was. His siblings also had the same upbringing and turned out ok.

>>76329831
no. I'm making fun of the guy saying cold approaches don't work. I would only run direct game myself. but cold approaches should work. and you can be uglier.
still direct game is better. like yea you may be a 6/10. but women don't measure attraction on a bell curve. for most women you're ugly anyways and a small percent you're really hot. unless you're fat, right, then you're just ugly. but better to be with someone REALLY into you.
and that doesn't mean the girl is a looksmatch or less for you. she can be way out of your league and still be really into you.

>>76329838
that excuse is for ugly fuckers that can pull mid women at best but salute to you for doing the bare minimum at 6 feet lmao

>>76329811
>Right, you spend all day glued to your window with your shoes and coat on seeing if any girls walk past your house
I wfh and when i talk on the phone i pace outside the house while talking

>>76329807
I didn't say they were hot but they were easily fuckable

>>76327620
all of this is true, you can be succesful romantically while ugly, but you need to be exceptionally interesting or very competent in some way, whether it's music, great humor, sports, or some niche activity. and also have big social circle so you're constantly mingling with other humans. if you're a good looking guy, you don't need to be exceptional in any of those traits, just don't be a complete aspie. unfortunately most men who are average/below average focus solely on their looks - gymceling, "looksmaxxing", all of that is increasing their looks marginally, which barely changes anything. instead they should be statusmaxxing/humormaxxing/uniquemaxxing, or at least focusing on the latter while simultaneously gymceling in the background.

>>76329806
>You're a loser because you're too nice
Can someone explain what too nice means? For example i'm very polite with old ladies or people working as cashiers and always say thank you etc, and i always respond kindly to work emails, When i'm about to date someone tho i'm not like that i switch to a more 'asshole' vibes so i don't appear beta. Is this a good balance or i'm i missing something?

>>76329831
Over 5 what was the sixth one a midget

>>76329848
They weren’t hot though. Stay in your league pal you’re not pulling Stacey’s with that tactic

>>76329856
That goes for anybody 6 feet. Like yeah you can attract women and get loads of matches on dating apps but they expect you to excel in other areas to compensate. It’s like having the bare minimum requirements to get a job interview

>>76329860
talk first. sex later. try it out.

>>76329857
man none of that matters if you’re attractive. faking an asshole image only attracts a certain type of woman that doesn’t respect herself but i guess that’s fine if getting inside the vagina is the goal

>>76329873
This you? You can only get so far

>>76327402
He wasn't even tall enough to get his full face in the photo

>>76329884
no. that's not me.

>>76329719
In younger women, they’re usually associating being psycho with being masculine. This usually changes with age if they’re not broken.

Like most of the women I associate with never date psychos, they’re very educated, have healthy families and social circles. The last woman I dated was the type tho. Bad relationship with family, always working on herself, wants love, is attractive and loving, but somewhere inside she’s broken. Every time I see some Chad show off his tinder, it’s a bunch of broken women desperate for attention.

>>76329889
Elliot Rodger would’ve slayed in today’s world. He just needed to wait for K-POP to become popular

>>76329884
Kek NTA but I'm a 5'7 bald married man and we pull 8s and 9s for 3somes all the time.

>>76329867
yes, also there is a lot of luck/randomness when it comes to relationships. not just romantic ones. think of all your closest friends, how you met them, I'm sure there will be many coincidences, like having a flat tyre at the same street, or bumping into eachother at the end of a concert and spilling your drink. same with romantic ones. a lot of couples will have an interesting story of how they met, some bizarre one in a billion chance, when they both happened to be recently broken up, and somehow met up randomly. of course this is dying, since everyone spends loads of time on tinder, but my point is - don't forget the randomness of life, and when you see an opportunity - seize it. when it starts raining randomly, and you share an umbrella with a stranger, talk with them, get to know them for that short time, maybe they will be your partner (or best friend if it's a dude).

don't get too invested in schizo redpill blackpill theories, relationship and their beginings are multifaceted, chaotic, random. take life as it is.

>>76329898
No you’re just a low standards having faggot with an ugly wife overrating women’s attractiveness kek you’re not pulling models for threesomes

>>76328593
>never makes an effort to speak or interact with people
>WAAAH I HAVE NO FRIENDS OR GF WAAAAH
Nigga did you think God was going to send a virginal bride floating on a gust of wind directly onto your cock?

>>76329898
get a load of this bald manlet talking about banging Margot Robbie

>>76329898
highly questionable.

>>76329310
>>76329336
yea 5'9" 124 lbs is pretty crazy, coulda pulled some mid arthoes but you're not gonna pull stacys at those stats unless you have insane charisma. ER needed to bulk up and hit the weights, prob just had low T

>>76327168
It's crazy, his dad was the producer for the Hunger Games, all he had to do was take a girl out for a quick tour of the set, maybe meet some actors, and he would've gotten free pussy

>>76329336
>>76329917
>yea 5'9" 124 lbs is pretty crazy
Did /plg/fatties raided this thread? 130lbs at 5'9 It's a very good size for a lean physique for an adult male, what was his bench press?

>>76327377
What a massive retard.

>>76327129 (OP)
You're talking about a dude starts his manifesto by complaining that his mom didn't have sex with him when he was a child. Nothing could've "saved" him.

>>76329940
>all he had to do was take a girl out for a quick tour of the set
Lmao you fucking retard, my dad is a very famous photographer doing top ads, the one's you see on TV and from my expierence is never a good idea to take your girl near chad actors/models, they will auramog you and you will just be in the shadows no matter how looksmaxxed you think you are. Your best bet is taking her somewhere where you won't be mogged, nowadays i just take my dates to Church or a walk in the park

>>76329850
“I wfh”
Let me guess, remote tech job with six figures? If you’re going to make up a fake story, at least be original. And yeah, I’m sure your job totally let you bail on a work call so you can ambush some random stranger walking by. Stranger and stranger fanfiction is written on /fit/ these days lul

>>76329952
What? He said nothing like that.

>>76329954
that’s cool bro. when i was a kid i found child porn on my dad’s computer. guess which one of us our father’s is more based

>>76329958
Why the fuck would i lie on this forum retard? Cold approach works you are just a pussy, and no it's not 6 figures, i'm not even rich im 32 and i only have 40k in the bank yet i had more gf's than you lmao

>>76329954
Sounds like you speak from personal experience

>>76329958
Anon, he already admitted to banging mid women. Do you really expect him to be a boastful individual?

>>76329967
it makes sense though non-hot women don’t get approached much often so it would definitely be a successful encounter

>>76329967
>why would I lie to feel better about myself
Why indeed
>cold approach works
In your fanfic perhaps. Btw you still haven’t explained why your work let you skip out in the middle of a business call so you could run after and harass a random stranger. Uhm, plot hole much?
>you are a pussy
Oh really, the middle aged loser who has to make up stories where he begs ugly fat women for sex has a problem with me?

>>76329723
>So if he acted like a confident guy he would have slayed?
Yes.

>>76329995
does your boss babysit you for 8 hours.
thank you for working at walmart.

>>76330003
He does actually. He’s my father he’s supposed to babysit me

>>76330003
>when i talk on the phone i pace outside the house while talking
>while talking
Stupid nigger damn how ugly are you that you have to make up a fake story this pathetic

>>76329977
>it makes sense though non-hot women don’t get approached
It's true that most men don't cold approach but you will be amazed how even those mid women get approached all the time.

>>76329995
>you still haven’t explained why your work let you skip out in the middle of a business
I own my business, I can do whatever the fuck i want.

> ugly fat women
You are going to far here, i never became a plapjack, all my recent gf's had hot bodies. Try cold approaching instead of doubting success stories, it all starts with a smile and a hi.

>>76330007
you are so butthard you think i'm everyone ITT lmao. Incels are truly insane.

>>76329902
And who would I have talked to? Other losers? What would that get me… nowhere. Non-losers? What do I bring to the table?

>>76330009
>I own my business
Not for long if you’re leaving a client or partner hanging in the middle of work calls to go wander off to random strangers. This is like the fourth time you’ve changed your story and it’s not becoming any more believable.

Is this what happens to adult male virgins? Your brain rots and you think everyone is as gullible and lacking life experience as you are?

>>76329971
>samefagging a minute apart
GEGGGG this LARPing incel is mad

>>76330011

>>76329899
Another adult male virgin and even more delusional than the rest. This is what happens when you watch too much anime rom coms and lose touch with reality, many such cases!

>>76330011
>>76330031
to be fair though. this excerpt sounds like you.

>>76329965
I found cuck porn on my dads computer. Then he paid for my mom to get liposuction and she gained all the weight back

>>76329790
Well what happene when I shoot up a train station or a mall or a school and those “tough guys” can’t do a thing but take a .45 to the chest, how’s that for natural selection huh? How’s that for being ruthless you nigger faggot?

>>76330031
I went to UC santa barbara
Isla vista is hypergamy on hard mode. Its a few square miles of only college kids living feral next to the beach. The chads (usually sport teams and frats who house together) have harems and the studious betas struggle for the scraps. The dysgenics all fuck eachother though, Elliot wouldve got a lot of pussy if he went for asian and mexican girls instead of blonde white girls.

>>76330045
Why point your hatred at me? I had nothing to do with creating this world. And if you do that you will just end up killing yourself or ending up in prison

>>76329944
Nigger what? You must be dyel as fuck, I'm 165lbs at 5'11" and I'm still fucking skinny. ER wasn't even shredded at that weight, he had hardly any muscle mass at all

>>76330050
even the hotshot star athletes that made it to the league were notorious for banging mid groupies on campus. confirmed by their teammates. don’t believe this narrative of Stacey’s lining up to bang unless they were trying to get wifed up for millions

>>76330058
At least you were fucking skinny bitches. I’m still a virgin

>>76330069
That tracks. Men want easy pussy at all times. Why would they put effort and invest money in a woman when there are others that would give it up for free especially if you’re busy as an athlete

>>76327129 (OP)
if you've read his manifesto, you know he was obsessed with peak Blonde Stacies, and so arrogant he didn't want to ask them out himself.

He was a fraudcel who no one should take seriously.

>>76330069
I said blonde white girls, not stacies. The hottest chicks were fucking chads, and dating sugar daddies or just random internet "celebrities"
Welcome to libtardtopia California. These girls all have rich parents too

>>76330058
>I'm 165lbs at 5'11"
No one should weight more than 150lbs below 6ft

>>76330123
that’s the way it should be. non attractive nor poor people should be able to fuck hot women that’s not how the world should work

>>76330116
Yea Ive read the full manifesto too. Its an incredibly frustrating read because Elliot genuinely doesnt try. He sits around and seethes and pontificates but maybe makes 3 concerted efforts in his entire life to talk to girls when he was manic enough and acted like he was the victim when it obviously didnt pan out

>>76330171
>Elliot genuinely doesnt try.
He expected everything to get handed to him, like his BMW. He would have never lifted, because that would require effort. I can totally see him roiding without lifting, though.

>>76330171
Once again, Elliot gave up trying because girls were not interested in him and showed no interest in him. Cold approach never works if you aren't a 10/10 Chad.

>>76330185

>>76330185
>Elliot gave up trying
He never tried to begin with, retard.

>>76330185
Right dude thats why no girls ever approached me my entire life but when I started approaching them all the time I banged 30 girls in 1 year. Right bro

>>76327377
>what do you make of this situation
Actually having a hot woman is kind of a pain in the ass. You almost have to be somewhat of "a problem" because the moment you walk in, a room full of dudes are sizing you up and doing the math of how difficult it might or might not be to try to split her off from you. And they've got to think, well, I could probably "win" but that nigger may just smash a glass pitcher into my face, not worth it. And for people to conclude that, you have to be actually willing to do it. Not that you necessarily will, but you are capable.

On one hand it's a tiring life, as everywhere you go, attention goes with you. On the other hand, it toughens you up quick. And Jesus fucking Christ does it redpill you quick. Hot women roll with other hot women, but holy shit these bitches can be so dumb. And funny, really, because their entire existence is blatantly superficial so when the masks drop things can be unintentionally hilarious. Sometimes their "deep" is so unbelievably shallow that you can't believe such a human exists yet others can cut to the ultra reddest redpill depths of the primate kingdom.

After getting my fill, for the same reasons I don't want to drive a Ferrari to Target and would rather drive a "nice" Toyota, I moved on to kinda hot pastures and have been married now for well over a decade.

>>76330201
get a load of this larp. you don’t go from being a loser sexless faggot to banging 30 women in a year all of a sudden. even the most desperate of dudes are trying all the time and don’t succeed that way. if you were attractive you would’ve gotten pussy beforehand. the 0 to 100 stories are laughable

>>76330218
If you say so chudbrah

I have a coworker who's the same as all the ER copycats itt. It's pretty funny.

>>76330205
>that nigger may just smash a glass pitcher into my face
You seem to run in much different, much lower-status social circles than most people do.

The only possible way for me to ever even just try to approach a girl is to hire a professional assassin and pay him tens of thousands of dollars to literally seek me out at random times putting a loaded gun on the back of my head where if I don't approach at least one girl he'll blow my brains out on the spot or something like that.

I have no clue how anyone is actually motivated enough to seek girls, try to win them over and then spend money, time and effort to try to keep them with you after that. All what happens in my brain when I see an attractive girl anywhere is just "damn, she's hot" and I keep walking, that's it

>>76330218
if you don't ask out women you'll starve. The blackpill doesn't say "Chad doesn't ask women out", you're an idiot and a coward, and probably a fakecel like Elliot.
Until you've asked women out you shouldn't claim to be some incel with no hope.

>>76330199
Yes, he did. There were multiple times he walked around the neighborhood and said hi to girls and they never responded/rejected him. At some point it's incredibly difficult for any man to gain back confidence to ask a woman out after multiple rejections unless the woman shows at least a little interest themselves, which in Elliot's case no woman showed him any interest.

>>76330256
why are you referring to the bp as if it's some religious text kek. anyways chad doesn't have to ask women out, he either has hundreds of options to choose from on tinder or he's smashing one of the many girls in his harem, all of which approached him btw. if you're actually attractive women will seek you out. Anything else is cope.

>>76330256
but that’s the point. if i’ve been approached by women all my life and been complimented by them i don’t need a coming to home story about finding out i can pull women once i started approaching her as a grown adult. you should’ve figured that out early. if that’s working for you know when you didn’t get anything before it means you’re pulling mid women at best

>>76328198
I'll tell you the secret to getting women as a normal guy. You have to be friends with a decent amount of people who have wide social circles. That way you'll often end up being "a part of the group" with women who you just met for the first time in your life.

>>76330256
but that’s the point. if i’ve been approached by women all my life and been complimented by them i don’t need a coming to home story about finding out i can pull women once i started approaching them as a grown adult. you should’ve figured that out early. if that’s working for you now when you didn’t get anything before it means you’re pulling mid women at best

>>76330268
>>76330275
The point is that you aren't Chad, but that doesn't make you an incel.
What percent of the male population can expect to be pursued by women?

You're using blackpill ideology as an excuse to be a coward.
If you want to see whether you're incel or not, go and pursue girls and see what happens.

>>76330267
Never happened.

>>76330286
People are just telling you their experience dude. If you want to do nothing and LDAR like a stone cold truecel, nobody cares at all