Love to see it

>>76333624 (OP)
Balanced diet wins again. It always wins

>>76333624 (OP)
Vax status?

>>76333632
Are you implying that the food pyramid is actually correct and science regarding nutrition has been already settled ages ago? /fit/ snake oil sellers are going to shit themselves

>>76333649
im implying people who limit their diet are all retarded. people will literally avoid eating delicious meals thinking they are somehow improving their health even as a fat fuck

Just eat vegetables. That’s all you need to prosper

>>76333649
no the food pyramid is retarded and imbalanced. just eat real food- meat, eggs, fruit, veg, dairy

Oh no carnibros not like this. Where did he go wrong

>>76333649
that is very clearly not what was >implied

exericse is inflammatory
hard workouts 5 days a week is going to cause major damage in the blood vessel linings
lots of holes for LDL to get into a calcify in

the real diet+health redpill is keto (NOT carnivore) + a mostly sedentary lifestyle.
it's the least inflammatory lifestyle.
no inflammation from multiple hours a day of high blood sugar
no inflammation from completely unnecessary exercise

>>76333966
>the real diet+health redpill is keto
Stopped reading, piss off ketonigger

we already know human performance thrives on glucose and fiber has a vast array of benefits that have been extensively studied
meanwhile high fat diets don't really do anything good, they're not even natural because such fat meats have only been a thing for the last 100 years or so

>>76334046
raised blood sugar causes damage in the blood vessel inner walls

exercise causes increased heart rate which causes increased and/or turbulent blood flow also causes damage to the inner walls of the blood vessels

these two things are scientific fact. undeniable.

>>76334066
yet we know that exercise is a major contributor to actual health outcomes such as reduced risk of all cause mortality

>>76333624 (OP)
>retard lies to his audience
>says he is full carnivore but is a goddamn liar
>hamming it up for clicks
>has to create drama to give people a reason to follow his bitch ass
>muh character arch muh realizations muh growth muh clout farm
prove to me that this wasn't the case. the moral? never trust any online grifter, because their only objective is to get your eyeballs on them and given them revenue, and they'll spare no expense to ensure that such a thing happens. thus, you can never be sure what aspect of the character they've crafted is true. i.e. it could be the case that he was doing "carnivore" the correct way and in good faith, but suffered a health related issue because of some preexisting condition and somehow attributed it to his diet. it could also be that he's an anti-carnivore grifter who wants to sully his ideological opposition by using scare tactics to spread misinformation and thus get more people away from animal products. there are a number of possibilities, but we don't know the full story, we just know what he says.

stop posting this shit btw it's constant with you.

>>76334073
Keep seething seedoilcuck

>>76334066
They’ve become so mentally broken they’re starting to say that exercise is bad for you

>>76334073
the data is blurry
there is no slam dunk proving exercise in and of itself is helpful
it's distorted by USUALLY those not doing exercise are ones who don't care about other areas of their health too
and the ones USUALLY who do do exercise are health conscious and caring about other aspects of health too

when you look at all those 'worlds oldest women/men' whenever they get interviewed
some great great grandma in italy/japan
or some ancient geezer in greece/spain
none of them were ever athletes
none of them ever did any unnecessary exercise
just the basic every day tasks that were a part of life
the women had children and did chores, which were harder in the olden days, like washing clothes the hard way
and maybe the men were farmers or some other type of laborer
some sex i suppose
walked around town, no cars
but thats it, and when they gave up the daily chores
they never did (((exercise))) for the sake of it
exercise shortens the life span because you speedrun through the finite life cycles of your cells
all the various organs cells, bone and connective tissue cells, muscle cells
we can't live forever, degeneration and death is baked into our dna
the cells can only renew so many times
if you waste those cycles on stupid things you destroy them prematurely, you age prematurely, thus you die prematurely

every idiot goy who stresses and wears down his body prematurely will die prematurely

>>76334103
confounding factors are often accounted for, yes there is no 100% proof, but all signs point toward exercise just by itself being good for you, its better than being sedentary which has the worst outcomes

>just the basic every day tasks that were a part of life
we don't do those anymore, which is why we need exercise to not be sedentary

I agree that too much exercise kills you faster though

>>76333649
>unbalanced diet is bad
"Oh so you mean the unbalanced food pyramid that I clearly think is unbalanced must be correct then????"
kys

We all shit in the designated street!

I know Jack shit about diet and nutrients, but I figure the body is always adapting and changing so I reckon dietary needs also adapt and change. Maybe low carb for a while, then high carb for a while.

>>76333649
The food pyramid is a wold war era rationing program.

>>76333649
canadas food guide is goated

>>76334181
So this is what's driving the cattle to the suicide pods

straying from this man's words has consequences

>>76334103
I wasn't gonna do my cardio today, but after reading your retarded post, I definitely will.

>>76333624 (OP)
Rejoicing in the failure of others is a sign that you're never going to make it. I guarantee you don't even lift.

>>76334181
This is unironically excellent

>>76334181
>potatoes just randomly mixed into the vegetables and fruits category
I know it's considered a vegetable but I think it's odd to lump such a staple food together with broccoli, carrots or lettuce. In my mind a normal balanced meal looks something like this:
>meat
>staple food carbohydrate - potatoes/rice/pasta or some alternative like quinoa
>vegetables
Do Canadians really consider potato wedges to be in the same category as tomatoes?

>>76333966
>Exercise is inflammatory.
>Inflammation is bad.
>Therefore, you should eat a diet that raises cortisol and promotes inflammation.

somebody explain how this happened

so we looked at the data and what the science says may shock you...

>>76334392
>protein foods
>half of the section is shit plant protein
k lol
enjoy your low test levels, retard

Conventional wisdom this, myopic evolutionary reasoning that. RTFM. Even American Heart Association and other inert institutions have updated their guidleness with more modern understanding. None is safe from atherosclerosis.

Epidemology doesn't show meaningful correlation between saturated fat consumption, or red meat consumption and cardiac events. A small subset of people people have unfortunate genetics, where saturated fat does substantially increase plague build-up. Many of those people croak in 40s and 50s.
There are other factors that could be at play: chronic inflammation, calcification from excess calcium and vitamin D and lack of K2. Or chronically elevated BP.

First of all clogging of arteries is slow process that takes decades and begins at birth. Just because you changed your diet at 30 doesn't mean the damage is gone.

Cardio helps, good metabolic health helps, but the only way to stop the build up is to make the body cease producing the type of cholesterol-carrying protein ApoB that clogs the arteries and that can only be done pharmacologically.

>>76334369
keto is much less inflammatory to blood vessel inner linings than raising your blood sugar for multiple hours multiple times a day

He took the vaxx

>>76333624 (OP)
My dad's kidneys are almost completely gone and he's been told to stop eating red meat immediately while they figure out if it can be salvaged and yesterday he's still lobbing the same horseshit at me like "chicken is unhealthy, they pump that stuff up with soo many chemicals" while he's drowning in saturated fat and raping his organs

He's fat as fuck, can't lose weight to save his life despite going on keto/carnivore constantly, has gout constantly, doesn't listen to our family doctor but loves his Youtube doctors like ken Berry and that Dr. Berg faggot.

I think these people are simply too far gone. The retardation is terminal. So I get the honor of burying him soon because my father is a fucking dumb fuck.

>>76334942
what does saturated fat have to do with your kidneys. high blood sugar is what damages kidneys assuming youre not doing drugs and drinking copious alcohol

>>76334181
Bit oversimplified, but for normies this is perfect advice.

>>76334952
his heart is fucked too, but he does stupid shit like down an entire tub of honey in one go

>>76334942
Sorry to hear that, yeah high protein keto/carni diets are hard on the kidneys

>>76334143
>le AI overview
so you made it up
zoomers can't even be fucked to go look for a single paper anymore, mindfucked by social media and big tech

>>76334967
That's less of a diet and more attempted suicide by food, WTF .
Dit he eat normal in the past and did something trigger it or has he always been like this?

>>76334974
>complaining about ai overview and social media in a twitter screenshot thread
>he needs to be linked le peer reviewed paper to tell him that Indian's have high rates of vegetarianism and that rates of atherosclerosis are incredibly high there
Why don't you go find it yourself little baby, school's closed

>>76334922
Its actually not because its a chromic state but I'm won't argue because you aren't interested in actual discussion.

>>76334922
Its actually not by definition because keto is a chronic state but I won't argue because you aren't interested in actual discussion.

>>76333966
Except that keto increases ldl by a lot and often causes arterosclerosis if the person is skinny.

>>76334080
The biggest issue is that he had heriditary hypercholesterolimia, ate a normie shit diet until 45, then ate "carnivore" and kept cheating on it.
This was also one of the few posts that account ever made and never showed back up, vegays like posting it as though it means something though.

>>76334995
Yes. He used to be a professional soccer player playing for his home city, athletic build and all. I don't really know what caused the decline. His primary job since 30+ has been construction.

He is a huge alcoholic though so maybe that was the gateway into more of a slob lifestyle.

>>76333649
>food pyramid
Created by the Department of Agriculture, it has nothing to do with what is healthy and everything to do with the desires of industrial farming lobbyists.

>>76334395
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywsVg2Zyffg

>>76335771
>black scientist
yeah I don't care one iota m8

>>76334967
>>76335615
>he is a massive alcoholic
>he downs sugar by the tubful
>"it's da meat"
lmfao

>>76334143
I believe this. On one hand they're vegetarians but on the other hand they do deep fry everything and use a lot of butter in their food. Not surprising they get a lot of heart disease.

>>76334392
>how does a middle-aged male get atherosclerotic heart disease?
From eating poorly for the vast majority of his 50 years of living. No, his 1 year of eating carnivore did not cause his heart disease, obviously.

>>76335865
it's all 3
sorry m8 I know the truth hearts
I eat red meat all the time but I just choose lean meat and don't eat meme fat sources like butter and ghee

>>76335818
>the vegan, ideology almost entirely held by liberal cucks, is suddenly racist when it's convenient

>>76334143
>>76335892
depends on the actual diet desu
you don't *have* to eat like that, but of course unhealthy people will be unhealthy so they use buckets and buckets of oil in everything
t. indian

>>76335965
Modern day liberals would be the nazis in Germany

Now let's look at the vegan anecdotes

>>76333624 (OP)
>its almost as if consumption of saturated fat and cholesterol accelerates atherosclerosis
Follow a well balanced plant-based diet and you'll be fine in 99% of cases, you can thank me when you reach 100

>>76334392
[Over]consumption of animal products, increase in dietary cholesterol increases serum cholesterhol, he probably has a ridiculous LDL which caused atherosclerosis (build up of fatty plaques in his arteries), also lack of vegetables and high saturated fat consumption contributed to it.

>>76333624 (OP)
90% of this is genetics.

>>76336743
Genetics are a contributory factor, the direct cause is elevated cholesterol, it's the ONLY direct risk factor. Unless you have a genetic condition that elevates your LDL to well over 100 ng/dl regardless of what you eat it's not genetic. There are people with familial hypercholesterolemia but all they have to do is just reduce dietary cholesterol for the most part. It really is that simple, plant based eating will set you free but people are too stubborn to change their lifestyle in that way.

Have you guys ever heard of "blue zones?" They're areas in the world where there's high concentrations of people 100+. One thing you see there is they never stop moving (exercising to live.) E.g. one of them is a village that is incredibly mountainous and the people move hills constantly to get water + food. You literally can't get fat if you're forced to exercise hard to live. While the diets of these people are incredibly diverse. Whatever seasonal veges, herbs, plants, meats, fish, wine, teas... whatever.

You see -- modern nutrition is at the level where it's like... you need xyz vitamins, minerals, protein, carbs, bla bla bla. But it doesn't account for the myriad of other beneficial chemicals and even life forms that are in our diet. Like antioxidants, phytonutrients, flavonoids, and bacteria for the gut. Its like those disgusting, mono-culture forests you see with no life in them. That's kind of a simplification for having limited diets towards what happens to intestinal bacteria.

>>76333624 (OP)
>fasting
>keto refill every other day
This is life on easy mode but nice try, moxyte child. Enjoy estrogen stalker.

>>76336781
It is not as if you eat saturated fat and it goes straight to your blood. There is a complex metabolic process that turns these fats into cholesterol, and how that happens is almost entirely determined by genetics. Additionally, some vegetables also have saturated fats. They have typically lower levels than animal sources, but they are not zero, and they are not insignificant. Coconut oil has 87% saturated fat, while butter only 62%. So it is not that simple as just eat plant based sources and you will be ok. Some people eat 100 eggs every day and never had any cardiovascular disease.

Meat is wrong.

Meat is bad.

Meat is evil.

/fit/ is just too clogged to get it and it's a good thing you will all die from roids.

>>76336831
This so much this xisters!

>>76336826
I understand you're giving context to my comment but I never said anything that you're talking about. >>76336740 is my post too, hence why I said reducing dietary cholesterhol for the most part, also that high saturated fat consumption contributed to it.
I personally don't advise people to use coconut oil, I generally use olive oil and very little oil in general, I'm not too too familiar with the right oils to recommend but my understanding is that cold pressed oils are better with higher smoke points, I need to do more research regarding that.
I know you're not retarded because you just gave me a breakdown of the mechanism of the impact of different foods on lipids so please don't say "Some people eat 100 eggs every day and never had any cardiovascular disease", you're insulting both of our intelligence.
However it really is pretty much that simple, just eat a balanced whole food plant based diet, reduce cholesterol and saturated fat intake, be a healthy weight (which is part of a healthy diet) and exercise 30 minutes per day, all cause mortality drops significantly, health events reduce and quality of life improves. I don't know what else to say.

>>76336853
>This guy fucked prime natalie portman

>>76336781
>reduce dietary cholesterol
how do you retards still exist?
dietary cholesterol has zero fucking effect on blood cholesterol. every study in existence has shown this. moron.

>>76336994
asmongold is banging emiru
in the zog west, jews are king

>>76337394
No study has shown "zero effect". Hyperbolic language isn't useful.

>>76334066
And if you eat carbs in the absence of fat, blood sugar spikes don't last long. Fat impeded insulin sensitivity. Eat fat or carbs, not both like a retard.

>>76337466
>eat only a low fat or a high fat diet
Nah I prefer to not live with an eating disorder

>>76333624 (OP)
>breakfast
chicken and 1 potato
>lunch
banana + whey
>dinner
4 eggs + 2 40 cal things of yogurt. be honest, this is ok right? i legit can't think of this as bad

>>76337611
>40 cal things of yogurt
Are you eating like three tablespoons of yogurt or something?

>>76337734
I mean, half a cup of yogurt is 8 tablespoons and a full cup is 90 calories = 16 tablespoons

>>76337466
This is the trvth that no one wants to hear, after doing the sugar diet, keto diet, carni diet I've come to realize that the best thing to do is just separate your macros

>>76337466
buddy pal, you need to shut the fuck up. i'm getting 178g protein 179g carbs 40g fat 51 sugar and i'm losing weight still, and pretty fast
>durr you just work out a lot
no shit but i am a living contradiction to what you just said

>>76337764
He didn't imply that its impossible, your fat consumption is fairly low to begin with
But if you ate carbs by themselves your body would push the glucose into your cells much faster than if you ate them with fat

>>76334417
Food's a critical part of health but not the only thing that affects it. How active was he? Was he prone to chronic stress or did he have poor sleep (both shown increase atherosclerosis)? Did he have atherosclerosis before he started he went vegan?

>>76337795
A fruitarian still eats plenty of coconuts and avocados
But to begin with his death announcement was kinda sussy, why would they specifically mention "clogged arteries" in his death announcement, seems very out of place

>>76337816
see >>76333648

>>76337826
I dunno about OP but Mango could have been vaxxed, I never saw it being mentioned in his videos so he wasn't anti-vaxx