If you're super scared about roids anon, why not just a stack of primo/var? Don't even need test, and you'll have an amazing ottermode physique in just 12 weeks which may have taken you 3-4 years to do natural.

insane amount of roid shilling lately
what's the deal with that

>>76334797


If you want to look like you actually lift, you're either going to have to lift for over a decade or do roids. Lots of natties that look good have been lifting since middle school

Most of the super buff guys you see are all on steroids. Some do ridiculous stacks like test and tren. The smart guys just do low dose so they look amazing and mitigate sides.

Pretty much every teen/early 20s male that looks like he gets bitches is on SARMS or straight up using test. SO MANY guys are on it even guys that you think are just natties that lifted a long time.

Most people here use roids they just don't like to admit it.

>>76334829
Lol I have been training a couple years natty and people make comments of my physique on a regular basis. Literally all you have to do is bulk and not train like a pussy

>>76335313


post body pic

>>76334829
He's not asking why he should roid, retard. He's asking why there is MORE ROID SHILLING lately. I know you're functionally retarded from all the roids but try really hard to understand there's a difference.

I'm 30+ and married my stack is a multivitamin and a fish oil tablet. I lift for strength now cause otherwise I turn into a fucking cripple

>>76334789 (OP)
Buddy shut the fuck up. If you're scared of roids you shouldn't roid. They're for badass retards who want to be 250lb+ godless behemoths no matter the cost. These guys look like fake natties 12 weeks in before they even start roiding.
Theyre not for dweebs who are content with ottermode and getting mogged by natties and can barely focus on something that has a long time frame. These guys look like they don't even lift without the perfect lighting and angles AND they use photoshop on top of it because they don't even have a performance for the peds to enhance.

>>76334789 (OP)
If you're already decently muscular then that ottermode physique just requires a reasonable cut, cardio, and continuing to lift. But cutting and cardio are inconvenient and dull, so most people don't do want to do it even if they'll happily put the lifting work in