Is there any harm to frequent but small consumptions of alcohol. Just like one or two bottles of beer with my dinner. It’s not been effecting my fitness but my liver kinda hurts at night. Does alcohol consumption need rest days too?

>>76345887 (OP)
is it actually one or two beers, or is it more like four to six beers, with the occasional nine plus beer evening?
be honest now, boy. you can't lie to yourself forever.

>>76345887 (OP)
you already know the answer, you're just an addict looking for a reason to continue.

>>76345906
Am I addicted to tea? I drink that daily with my breakfast. Am I addicted to eggs? I just have beer in my fridge and it’s a tasty drink that’s nice to have with dinner

>>76345929
>Am I addicted to tea? I drink that daily with my breakfast
Caffeine addict, but caffeine has very few problems associated with it's addiction.
>Am I addicted to eggs? I just have beer in my fridge and it’s a tasty drink that’s nice to have with dinner
Now you're being intentionally disingenuous. Yes, addictive chemicals are addictive. Yes, you are addicted to one of them. No, there's no shame in being an addict and seeking help for it - but there is shame in being an addict and asking weasely questions to excuse your addiction.
Seek help.

>>76345934
>oh you like to crack open a 4% beer after work? Please seek help you poor poor addict
I swear the underaged brownoids on this board are something else

>>76345952
>I have an addiction?
>NO! You must be BROWN REEEE!!!
top kek, keep wrecking your body with your addiction, it doesn't matter to me, but it clearly matters to you.

>>76345887 (OP)
i used to drink 3-4 beer cans daily, but lowered it to 2-3 cans of low alcohol beer 2.7% daily succesfully

impossible to quit completely after decade

it will raise your hdl a lot tho and keep telomeres long

>>76345887 (OP)
I used to drink between 4 and six tall boys every weekday at lunch time, then come home and have a few more. Weekends were usually a binge. Fuck booze.

>>76345887 (OP)
the body has limited resources it uses for recovery, muscle growth and alcohol usage might use the same resources, i've never checked. if your liver's hurting you should stop for a while.

>>76345977
If having one beer is grounds for addiction and destroying your body and losing all your gains for you then you have some genetic issues
Society as we know it was built by high functioning alcoholics
Jesus Himself turned water into wine
It’s okay to have a drink

I try and limit myself to one drink a night during the week, and most the time I don't even drink that. weekend is no holds barred, and I've ahd anywhere between no alcohol, and two 30 racks along with a bottle of bourbon in a weekend. It really just depends what I'm doing, and also who I'm with.

Woul chugging a small cup of dark coffee and two cans of beer here and there help with water retention ?

everyone i've met who claims to have a couple of beers with dinner mean a couple of six packs

>>76345887 (OP)

A single beer doesn't make sense. You wouldn't even catch a buzz

>>76346486
anecdotes =/= evidence
cool story bro

>>76346235
>If having one beer is grounds for addiction and destroying your body and losing all your gains for you then you have some genetic issues
Then all of humanity have serious genetic issues, weird
>Society as we know it was built by high functioning alcoholics
the 1% ABV water they were drinking is not the same
>Jesus Himself turned water into wine
for celebrations
Appeal to tradition fallacy
1 beer a day is enough to lower IQ and fertility and triple your risk for several cancers
cope and seethe addict

>>76346525
yes it was very cool, thank you

>>76345887 (OP)
Mike Israel said it was cool. I love blondes

>>76345887 (OP)
According to cico , chads doesnt matter if its in ur calorie and macro budgets

>>76346636
newfag detected

>>76346553
>Then all of humanity have serious genetic issues, weird
Weird, it seems the only ones who have problems drinking are those with skin that is not white
Must be a you thing
>the 1% ABV water they were drinking is not the same
False, they had to heavily dilute their wines in order to make it drinkable
>for celebrations
And? Still did it
OP is celebrating having a good day at work with ONE low abv beer and some food
>erm le fallacy
Go back
>1 beer a day is enough to lower IQ and fertility and triple your risk for several cancers
>and other things I pulled out of my ass

>>76346932
anything to keep engaging with your addiction
have fun goy

>>76345934
Caffeine has numerous issues behind its addiction. Especially when it comes to your heart
>>76345887 (OP)
Nah you're fine. A couple beers ain't gonna do shit, /fit/ it just full of retards who have 0 clue what moderation is and if they don't understand it, they assume everyone else is the same way

>>76346981
>A couple beers ain't gonna do shit, /fit/ it just full of retards who have 0 clue what moderation is
>>76346486

>>76346981
>Dude just moderate the poison you drink!
>Just moderate that carcinogen bro
>Yeah I just moderate how much gasoline I drink
NGMI

>>76346983
>>76346997
See what I mean? The idea is completely lost on them

>>76345887 (OP)
How can anyone just drink 1 beer? It doesn't make sense to my alcoholic brain?

>take a couple beers that i didn't buy out to the porch
>hmm i should probably check how heavy these are
>180 calories each
it's just not worth it
i just went back inside and took two shots

>>76347027
Would be better simply not to have poison I think, idk I'm not an alcoholic

>>76345887 (OP)
I'm a beerfag, but nope. Alcohol is never good, even in small doses.
Also, if you are really fond of beer, you never drink only one. I can only have one or two if completely alone.

>>76347054
Pretty much. It's an actual slippery slope, in the sense that it lowers your inhibitions and makes it that much easier to drink more, because of course you're going to drink more.
If you want to do a drug while trying to count calories, just do weed or something (if you don't eat).

>>76347058
It's quite funny, because I lost weight since I started drinking beer.
I used to have eating anxiety, and pretty much replaced that adiction with another one. Now at least I look better, socialize more and even got a gf.
So far it was worth. I don't know how it will impact on my health on the long term, since I'm also type 1.

>>76345952
You are such a pussy if you need alcohol to afront your daily life.

>>76346932
>Weird, it seems the only ones who have problems drinking are those with skin that is not white
>Must be a you thing
That's why it's always found to increase cancer rates, hormone issues, liver and kidney problems, and digestive problems in studies I didn't participate in, weird.
>False, they had to heavily dilute their wines in order to make it drinkable
which makes it not the same as you drinking your comparatively high percentage beer on the regular.
>And? Still did it
>OP is celebrating having a good day at work with ONE low abv beer and some food
Celebration every day dilutes it's meaning. This is addict cope, and the same way weed smokers get to "yeah bro I just need weed to [watch TV/shower/get up in the morning].
>speaking precisely is le reddit bad
You are brown.
>and other things I pulled out of my ass
You've got google on your machine.

>>76347054
>I can only have one or two if completely alone.
This is the absolute alcohol addiction test. If you can have only one beer while socializing and even if the rest of people drink more you are not an addict.

>>76347054
>I can only have one or two if completely alone
Ohhhh look at mr popular who has dinner with people every day. What the fuck are you on about?

>>76347034
That's the problem with alcohol.

Saying no to the first drink is ridiculously easy. There are a million reasons not to. I have work tomorrow. Maybe a family member or friend will have an emergency and I want to be available. I'm trying to be healthier anyway.

Saying no to a second drink is near impossible for me. Once I've justified one, there's no reason not to have another. It's just 2 drinks, and 2 drinks isn't really that worse than 1. I'll still be able to drive after 2.

A third drink? Well after this one I probably shouldn't drive, so might as well go to 4 and to justify the taxi ride home. But I have work tomorrow so that will be my last one.

Wow, it's only 10pm. I don't work until 9am, so I can sneak another in before hitting the road.

Damn that old guy at the bar was so nice for buying me a shot, I should return the favor and buy the next round. It's only polite.

Last call soon, I'll slam this one down, pay my bill, and call a cab.

On the cab ride home, a glass of wine sounds like a good night cap. I need it to sleep well so can be well-rested for work tomorrow. Oh, my favorite wine is one sale, I should go ahead and buy a second bottle for later this week.

Well, I already popped the bottle open so I might as well finish it. Wine never tastes as good the next day. Is that the sun? Why are there 2 empty bottles on the counter?

At no point did I decide to get drunk, but after each drink there's always a good reason for just one more. The reasons just keep getting easier.

>>76345887 (OP)
idk but im going to keep doing it

>>76347174
Alcohol is, mostly and firstly, a social drug. If drinking isn't helping you to go out and talk more then you are doing it wrong.

>>76347044
Me neither, I just enjoy beer

>>76346970
I accept your concession
>>76347116
>That's why it's always found to increase cancer rates, hormone issues, liver and kidney problems, and digestive problems
Water can do that too
So can apples
Anything and everything can be bad for you if you ingest it in extreme amounts
Good thing Im not drinking extreme amounts of beer
>comparatively high percentage beer
4-5% is high?
The abv they drank at after it was diluted?
>Celebration every day dilutes it's meaning
To you maybe, because you’re weird
>You are brown.
Im not the one screaming about the beer boogeyman
>You've got google on your machine.
(((Goy)))gle

>>76347244
It is funny people are worried about alcohol while ingesting plastic at an alarming rate. Just don't be an alcoholic and it's fine

>>76347244
>Water can do that too
If it has toxins like alcohol in it yeah
>So can apples
if they have heavy metal contamination sure
>Anything and everything can be bad for you if you ingest it in extreme amounts
Anything toxic can have toxic effects*
>4-5% is high?
Comparatively to 0.5% and 1% yes.
>To you maybe, because you’re weird
I'm starting to understand the probelm, you're an illiterate P zombie, incapable of higher order thinking
That would line up with you being brown
Have fun addict!

>>76347257
Yeah, but where do you draw the alcoholism line? Alcoholism is a wide spectrum.

>>76347241
>I just enjoy drinking poison
You're an addict, you shouldn't enjoy being poisoned.

>>76347263
>If it has toxins like alcohol in it yeah
>if they have heavy metal contamination sure
More likely than you think
>Comparatively to 0.5% and 1% yes.
Except thats not what the ancient people drank
>you're an illiterate P zombie, incapable of higher order thinking
He’s just making up words now
I think you need to chill out man, you’re getting upset for no reason have a beer or something lol

>>76347285
>He’s just making up words now
an UNEDUCATED illiterate P Zombie, fascinating
Could you tell me how you would've felt if you didn't eat breakfast yesterday?

>>76347296
I don't know because I had my breakfast this morning

>>76345887 (OP)
one beer is fine, it becomes a problem when one becomes 4+ and deep fried bar food every other night. if you are worried that one beer is going to sabotage your diet, you probably have some slop that you could cut out

>>76347296
I didn’t eat breakfast yesterday

>>76347185
Drink at home. Not expensive and less trouble. Drinking around others invites problems.

>>76347353
What's the point of drinking at home? If I'm gonna be alone I rather do weed.

>>76347367
What's the point in doing weed? If I wanna get high I rather do shrooms

>>76347353
Not that guy but I've been drinking at home and while it's less expensive on the wallet, my liver and mental health are definitely paying the price tenfold.

>>76347371
The point is that weed is something to be enjoyed alone while drinking is more enjoyable with others.

>>76345887 (OP)
as of a few months ago i went from drinking daily to just drinking on weekends, tho I bottle sip 100 proof liquor not beer

and im doing just fine so with beer your probably for sure fine, maybe try a different one if that one making you feel weird

>>76345887 (OP)
>Does alcohol consumption need rest days too?
Yes
>My liver kind of hurts at night
Go to a doctor then

>>76345892
This. I'm an addict with most things so I don't understand this "drinking one beer" notion. But if someone's liver hurts, I think they're drinking more than they let on.

>>76346138
I can't live like that anymore. I wasted years of my life that way and missed out on so much. I'm glad I got sober years back. There's always cannabis for if you want to feel something.

>>76347058
I lost weight on weed. Every time I got hungry I'd smoke and then I'd forget about food for an hour or two. Eventually I'd eat but I skipped all the snacking I'd have normally done.

>>76347185
Damn, this is how it would go for me if I tried to actually trick myself. But I know it's going to go that way from the first drink. Suddenly I come to hammered in a chair with a big meal I didn't eat and I have to try and sleep in a bed for 3 hours before I have to get up and get ready to work. It's gonna be fucking hell.
Then I'm sick all day and sweating it out and promising just to go home, have a hot bath and maybe smoke a joint and just be a normal person and not get loaded. But as soon as work is over NOTHING sounds so good as having a drink. Afterall, I'm feeling pretty normal now. Had some food and flushed those toxins and now I can take on the world. I'll have a bubblebath night Sunday after the no-holds-barred bender of a weekend. But for now I know my purpose, and I'm gonna start the whole thing over again.
"Who wants to get a taste?"

>>76347383
I'm going to pickle my liver like a buffoon no matter where I am. It's just cheaper at home. At least out on the town I get exercise and adventures, though I rarely remember them. I need to just get help. I know i have a problem.

>>76345887 (OP)
>Just like one or two bottles of beer with my dinner
>alcohol of any kind
>everyday
I feel like my belly would balloon if I drank more than once a week, how are people drinking beer everyday

>>76347271
Literally anything can be a poison depending on the amount. I also like cured and smoked foods, and those are poison.
>>76347265
If it becomes more of a need than a want. If you're drinking even when you don't even feel like it. If you're getting drunk repeatedly during the week. Those are all kind of the basics

>>76345952
>my liver hurts
>I just like to crack open a light beer every now and then

>>76345887 (OP)
alcohol is literally poison so yes, there is harm

>>76348035
>Literally anything can be a poison depending on the amount. I also like cured and smoked foods, and those are poison.
Yes, and the amount for booze is "any"

>>76346981
>Especially when it comes to your heart
No it doesn't. Get your boomer shit out of here.

>>76345887 (OP)
you need to do GOBAD for liver training

>>76347185
>Damn that old guy at the bar was so nice for buying me a shot, I should return the favor and buy the next round. It's only polite.
Yeah after this point I don't believe you. You didn't go to YOUR home that night did you?

>>76348881
No not really. It becomes poisonous at certain levels

>>76350859
1 drop of alcohol is a gains killer. You can choose to believe the truth or cope because you like feel good chemicals

>>76350987
1 drop of alcohol is a gay killer, that's why ur still alive faggot

>>76345887 (OP)
The concerning part isn't the amount that you drink. What's concerning is the fact that you're asking strangers on the internet for validation that you don't need to stop.

ITT: A guy with liver pain argues with anonymous users on an imageboard why he should continue drinking daily instead of asking actual medical experts

>>76351408
/an/ equivalent of
>TAKE IT TO THE VET!

>>76350167
The whole point of that post is to show what kind of mental gymnastics alcoholics go through just to have another drink.

>>76352026
At what point did you not think I understood that?

The cravings are much better than they used to be, and I’m thankful for that. I know I’m strong enough to resist them when they do come. But now I’m just really sad that I can’t drink. I see everyone enjoying their drinks and keep thinking “why can’t that be me”. I want to be able to sip on something like everyone else can. I think how I don’t want to do this forever, I feel bummed out. There doesn’t seem to be a solution, this is my life now, and it’s making me sad.

>>76345887 (OP)
How the fuck do you even cut having two or three daily beers? Assuming each bottle is 33cl, that's around 46kcal. Having two beets is equivalent to eating a sandwich or a glass of milk, and it's just alcohol, it's not even helping you reach your macros. It doesn't seem feasible.

Also, idk man. I understand wanting to have a drink every now and then. I'm italian, i'll have one or two beers on friday night after work with dinner. I'll sometimes have a shot of limoncello after lunch, but not every day, more like once a month. I don't drink soda or energy drinks, pretty much just water the rest of the time, and the occasional coffee. If your liver hurts, you probably need to cut down a little on the ale.

>>76346513
My girlfriend thinks like this, I don't get it. You don't actually like to drink, you just like being drunk. If I have a beer with dinner after work, it's because the drink is nice, tastes good with the food, and the experience of drinking it is enjoyable. I don't do it for the buzz or to get drunk.

>>76352573
shut the fuck up you fucking wop

>>76352699
amerikys

>>76345887 (OP)
Why is no one talking about this image?

>>76354399
The drink problem is worse than the cooming problem. I've never been pulled over for jerking and driving.

>>76346997
Uninitiated

Alcohol literally poisons your body and liver HAS to filter it out.

There is some unproven research that wine has some health benefits but i'd trust my gut and instinct and believe that since Greeks were pretty much getting wasted on it there has to be some truth in it.

>>76354931
>wine has some health benefits
Debunked. No amount of any type of alcohol is good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAK58BIUgdk

>>76345887 (OP)
about 1 standard drink a day is fine, possibly beneficial

>>76354408
That’s because you never tried it.

>>76355917
>WHO
>some fucking glassed goblin jew telling me no amount is good
yea fuck off, maybe for his semite blood it's bad

>>76358542
>ackshyully poison is GOOD for me!
>Anyone telling you to stop drinking poison is DA JOOS trying to uhhhhhh
>convice you to be healthier! Damn Jews!

>>76358624
Remember when WHO memed everyone a flu was actually a deadly virus and killed the world economy?

>>76358638
I remember a few of my family members dying from it yeah

>>76358638
I remember my family being sick and no one dying. Even the old as fuck ones too

>>76345887 (OP)
>Is there any harm to... [consumption] of alcohol
Yes

>>76345887 (OP)
if you still don't manage to stop consuming your goydrink even when your liver hurts, you're addicted, full stop. You need to face that and stop making excuses.

I don't care though, go enjoy your fatty liver full of scar tissue if beer is worth it to you.

>>76345952
If you're serious about health and fitness it's easy to abstain from alcohol. If you're shitposting on /fit/ to fool yourself into thinking you're some sick cunt then you'll drink whatever fucking shit you like

>>76345887 (OP)
Oh god I’m having one beer. There’s no hope for me!!!

>>76358903
Notice how this user posts their beer and not their body because they are not fit

>>76345887 (OP)
Hey anon, sharing my experience as I had a very similar relationship with alcohol to you and have recently quit.

>36 yo
>good level of fitness since age 15
>love beer
>drink 1-2 beers at night after work with dinner, didn’t think it was about the alcohol
>6pm beer slides to 5pm over time, but only ever 1-2 beers at home
>I can stop if I want, I just don’t want to

I stopped after running out of beers about 6 months ago. The first week was much harder than I expected. Whether it was the habit or low key addiction, I honestly really wanted a beer. Once I got past that I started to notice little changes.
>sleep
I started getting really restful sleep, and waking up excited to get out of bed

>mood
More positive, less frustrated, less impulsive

>performance
Started feeling great during / after exercise and feeling unbelievably happy / warm / positive after lifting or running

I had no idea the impact that microdosing alcohol was having on me, and now that I’m clear of it I’ll never go back to drinking. When I drink socially now (eg pint with mates) I am acutely aware of how fucked my sleep is, and how quickly I become a worse version of myself.

Anon, if you really think it’s not an addiction, quit for a month then see if you want to take it back up. I promise you you won’t. Ever.