How ripped can you get from just manual labor without actually lifting weights in a gym? I just got a new job that is physically intense and i barely got any energy left for lifting. I notice all my lifts are also down

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People thought i lifted because of my shoulders, traps, arms, before i ever started lifting . Until they saw me with my shirt off. I worked like a slave for a while though. Some labor jobs are much harder than others.

>>76349155 (OP)
How iften do beavers get crushed by a tree they're felling?

>>76349192
The life of a beaver is one of constant danger

"He who lives by the log, dies by the log"

>>76349155 (OP)
Beavers do a lot of manual labor and they don't look ripped at all

>>76349155 (OP)
>never seen a farm boy
Go throw hay bales for awhile, pencil neck.

>>76349155 (OP)
Mostly depends on what you actually do and if you still get your meals in & keep your protein intake high. Mine involves a lot of walking and lighter manual labor, not much rest and only very little lifting of heavy objects. I also don't get to eat whenever I should, and I've lost a significant amount of muscle and strength and I'm also mostly depleted. It's just seasonal labor though, and I'm usually back to where I was before after 2-3 months of lifting again.

>>76349155 (OP)
You won't build much if any muscle from most manual labor jobs, but it does have 2 advantages.

1-It's easy to get and stay lean since your caloric expenditure is so high.
2-Grip strength and upper back strength will be decent, this is since most of the lifting involved in manual labor jobs involves moving objects from point a to point b, basically farmer carries

>>76349155 (OP)
Really depends on the labor. I've never seen a small mover, for example, even if they're fat they've got big ass backs. Turns out lifting heavy ass furniture all the time gets you jacked. Stonemasonry will build muscle too if you're moving your own material, also mixing concrete by hand regularly will blow you up, between the actual mixing and lifting 50-80 pound bags off the ground constantly, which is common for smaller contractors or jobs that don't need a mixer machine.

>>76349353
Ive seen farm boys. Theyre fat.

>>76349155 (OP)
they all end up fat because doing it just destroys your body and any energy you have outside of it and they all have shitty diets
they stay pretty strong if they don't have crippling back injuries

>>76349353
>farm boy
what is it 1858? what asshole would make their kid do manually labor with the invention of the tractor

>>76349155 (OP)
You also burn more calories than conventional lifting as a sedentary, your grip strength will benefit from manual labor but otherwise you'll always be a DYEL unless you're permabulking which will make you a fatass on the long run

>>76349523
>thinks magical tractors do everything on the farm
That answer you're looking for, the one that always eludes you? The source of your vexations and frustrations? Turns out youre a faggot.

>>76349155 (OP)
Just take steroids along with that and youll gain muscle.

>>76349155 (OP)
it kinda sounds like if you just up your caloric intake you would see some gains. Literally just go to chipotle and get a 1200 calorie burrito for dinner every night.

>>76349155 (OP)
I know people who have done manual labour for 20 years and are in amazing shape still. What they've told me is
>Don't do anything stupid, like thinking youre tough moving heavy and awkward objects by yourself. If it's a 2 man job get another guy to help, youll fuck up your back doing that yourself all the time
>Always keep your posture good. It's fine to bend over in a retarded way once in a while but if you're doing that all day you'll end up fucked, for example
>Meal prep, stay out of culture of eating fast food and gas station shit because that will make you fat
>Keep drinking to weekends, no heading straight to the bar after work every day
What I've been told by the guys in great shape doing manual labour, is that you'll only end up a fatass with a destroyed body and bad back and knees (which is the stereotype of a lot of construction workers and shit) if you do all of that wrong. Which makes perfect sense to me

>>76349195
Damn bro. Harsh being woken up to the reality of universal suffering and strife like that.

But while we don't have full control over whether we live log lives, or ones that are short as sticks, we can still make it count by taking down the highest tree and damming up the biggest river.

Piss in fates face, as if you were out for a nice swim in the lake. WAGMI my beavers

>>76349155 (OP)
u cant get ripped with it

>>76350282
The indomitable spirit of the beaver
The white beaver marches on

>>76349353
lmao your "farm" doesn't exist anymore buddy
it's all machine and slave labor

>>76349155 (OP)
work will never get you jacked. only fat delusional boomrers who think theyre strong say this retarded shit.
i work warehouse for wxploitation tiwer wage, walk all day, pick shit up all day and still manage to lift after. stop being a pussy

>>76349192
I believe when they stop chewing, they are listening for specific low decibel crack sounds which warn them that the tree may be about to fall. I'm sure it happens from time to time, but beavers are quite experienced with felling trees. Genetic memory and all that.

>>76349486
>they all end up fat because doing it just destroys your body and any energy you have outside of it and they all have shitty diets
not really.manual laborers tend to be low iq with high time preference. thats why theyre fat and cant resist burger king after work instead of sports

>>76349195
>more log

>>76352299
>American theory of labour

>>76349155 (OP)
Manual labor is actually terrible for gaining muscle. Unlike the gym where the equipment and exercises are designed to keep you safe and target the muscle directly, everything you do in manual labor will be awkward, strenuous, and painful.

Most manual labor is like aggressive cardio with occasional attempts to fuck up your joints and destroy your back. The average gym goer can grow more muscle in 3 hours of lifting per week than 40 hours of manual labor a week.

Most blue collar guys I know who are jacked STILL hit the gym. If you don't you'll just be skinny fat with good grip strength, good body positioning, and a bad back. You will have some muscle, but it'll be very hard earned muscle.

>>76349195
Is he logged in or logged out?

>>76349155 (OP)
the most important thing is to be lean enough

>>76349155 (OP)
I got nice and strong as a younger lad from mostly onsite work, pressups and pull-ups.
Ah, to be young again.

>>76349155 (OP)
the energy thing is a big change I noticed with certain jobs I've had, I just try not to be a pussy about it since I figure its just a part of adult life, harder to workout after an 8 to 12 hour shift then it was after school or practice

I like to think of all the jobs I've had up to this point as the functional conditioning I don't get from my actual training

>>76349523
and how do you get the gay bales into the trailer?

>>76350282
>live log lives
Kek

>>76353127
I can imagine that beavers have little signs with "Live, Log, Love" in their lodges

>>76352341
yeah there is no progressive loading, its cardio and then suddenly you have to lift 80 lbs of not balanced weight out of a terrible non optimal lifting position and on uneven ground.

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>>76349685
>>thinks magical tractors do everything on the farm
they do on the field for sure. field work is entirely machinized. its livestock keeping that still has some medium manual labor involved occasionally, but even that is rather light load and can be done by women. i once had to help drag out a dead pig out of the stable and it weighed about 200kg. moving pigs from stable a to stable b can also sometimes be a wrestling match. but thats it.

>>76352341
>>76352341
>Manual labor is actually terrible for gaining muscle.
it also gets in the way of your gym sessions. you always have to plan around your work days because you cant use your work days as rest days when your work is manual labour.

>>76353931
>doesn't mention hay
Yea, I thought so faggot. Shut your dumb ass up.

>>76349192
not often, they stop and listen every few chews to hear any cracking and then waddle away
if the tree is a reasonable weight for its thickness then it'll topple itself over at a reasonable rate that they can escape from
of course sometimes they guess wrong