>Who is /fat/ for?
For powerful pudgies working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.
Join our Fatty Contest: https://www.fattycontest.com/

>What do I do first?
1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/
2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy
3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/
Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.
4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php
5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros), LoseIt (great for both), or Waistline (FOSS).

>Now what?
Count calories, all of them.
Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.
Buy scales, be accurate.
Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.
Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per pound of goal lean body mass.
Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.
Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and lose fat much quicker. Not lifting results in the body eating away muscle AND fat.
Drink more water.
Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html

>DON'T
Eat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.
Eat processed foods.
Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, Starbucks).
Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks.
"Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.

>Other resources:
Loose skin, gynecomastia & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/
Reddit Wiki: https://www.reddit.com/r/loseit/wiki/faq

Previous thread: >>76350553

>>76355479 (OP)
NUNS AND DUCKS

>>76355479 (OP)
What is this gay ass anime bullshit? /fat/'s theme is Nuns and Ducks. OP is a faggot.

>>76355493
that's right. nuns and ducks.

RYU? FROM STREETS?

>>76355479 (OP)
None of us are going to make it as long as this non-Nun non-Duck bullshit OP exists.

>>76355498
Yes that's right I'm Ryu from Streets. I like wake up into drive impact, nuns and sand. See you on the streets.

>>76355479 (OP)
Where are the ducks and nuns tho?

>>76355479 (OP)
WHAT ABOUT THE NUNS AND DUCKIES

Ate so much junk yesterday.
Gonna try and not eat for the next two days to compensate.

>>76355552
No don't, just eat normally or it'll get worse

>>76355552
A tale as old as time kek

I miss the nuns and ducks.

>>76355560
You sound like my mother.

so hungry...

>>76355586
decaf

Bros the hunger after running vs the hunger after calisthenics is insane.

>>76355597
I get hungry before my run. I got into the habit of eating one square of chocolate before heading out. Like I crave it really bad and have a hard time running without it.

Finally below 330 lbs. I've decided to do 45 min on the elliptical every day until I'm below 300.

Will metformin give me the shits really badly? Also does anyone have experience with getting dizzy/lightheaded with blood pressure medicine

how did you guys fix the all or nothing mindset

>240 at the start of the year
>226 today
Getting there but I still drink soda, whats a good tasting replacement

>>76355738
diet soda

>>76355735
by not being retarded

>>76355699
Do every other day, body needs the rest days in the beginning

>>76355735
The problem was not having the mindset. I was mediocre for years because of that mindset.

>>76355744
I said good tasting

>>76355747
I've been kind of playing my rest days by ear and so far I've only needed 1 per 5. I started on Thursday and felt tired on Monday, today I felt fine and went to the gym after work.

>>76355738
I use those water enhancers from Walmart. I prefer the strawberry watermelon one.

>>76355586
I wanna eat you
I wanna eat you
I wanna eat you
I wanna eat you
(I wanna eat you) I wanna eat you
I wanna eat you
I wanna eat you
Every time I close my eyes
I wake up feeling so hungry
I can't get you outta my mind
Snackin' you be all I see
I would give anything
Just to have you in my tummy
I don't give a damn about nothing else
Eatin you is all I need

I "rewarded" myself with chicken wings tonight and they weren't even that good. I think I'm done with cheat meals entirely. The stuff I eat normally for my day to day dinners is better than the average restaurant slop.

>>76355782
drown yourself in diabetes then anon idk what to tell you

>>76355891
man it makes me almost cry when a cheat meal turns out to be ass, waste of cash and calories

>>76355911
Yeah that's exactly how I'm feeling. I have meal prepped shredded beef in the fridge and I could have made a taco salad that was half the calories, half the cost, better for my digestion and long term health, and it would have tasted better too.

>>76355479 (OP)
boooooooooooo bring back the nuns!

Literally all I have at home are 20lb dumbbells that were a gift and I'm too broke rn to get anything else. Will they be enough for daily arm workouts? Should I do 20 minutes? 30?
220lb and 5'10" btw

>>76356018
>you don't need daily anything
>workout all parts of your body 3x a week to start off
>if they are adjustable then start with the lowest you can lift and progress until you can't anymore
>if not then lift 20lbs as long as they stop being challenging
>if you cant even lift 20lbs then start with calisthenics

>>76355891
>>76355911
If you start eating something and it "turns out to be ass" or "isn't even that good" throw it in the fucking garbage.

>>76356040
grew up being taught not to waste food so that's not really easy for me

>>76356050
You still wasted it. You didn't enjoy it, you didn't get your money back, and you won't be any less hungry tomorrow. You tricked yourself into thinking it wasn't wasted because you used your mouth to get rid of it instead of the garbage can, but you still wasted it, and cheated yourself, delayed your progress, and missed the opportunity to learn from your mistake.
Next time force yourself to throw it in the garbage, it's gonna hurt, but you'll feel good immediately after, and tomorrow when you are ahead on calorie deficit, and you'll start to think more carefully about what you buy and how much you fill your plate when you have to visually see what you wasted instead of just making it go away at your further expense.

Anyone on Semaglutide?

The fat from every part of my body but my love handles is gone. I want to kill them but I don’t want to be unhealthy skinny. What do I do?

>>76356218
Fast, might induce a greater degree of autophagy

>>76356227
oh no the fastards are back

Fastards are peak ngmi

Fastchads living in your head rent free and making you seethe

>>76356267
What's wrong about what I said? I merely said "greater degree" of autophagy

I hate 1500kcal diet
I hate 1500kcal diet
I hate 1500kcal diet
I hate 1500kcal diet
I hate 1500kcal diet

>>76355479 (OP)
If I knew losing weight was this fucking difficult I never would've gotten fat to begin with.

Fatty Contest
Name: Dzonathan Gavert
Weight: 120.95

Overall progress:
https://tinylink.net/1Jdoy

Motivational song of the day:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbU0gfyYnRA

>>76355488
>>76355493
>>76355495
>>76355504
>>76355522
>>76355523
>>76355575
>>76355523
>>76355990

Sorry anons. It seems my yestedays Song of the Day has inspired OP. Let's see if we'll have Rocky tomorrow =]

DOWN TO 88 KILOGRAMS THIS WONDERFUL SUMMER MORNING

https://youtube.com/watch?v=LpyccLjiNLs

>>76356420
Shiiiii that's what I'm aiming for. How tall are you?

>>76356412
Forgot the pic.

>>76356402
Just almost starve yourself for one week and then you can eat your new maintenance level to lock in the gains.
Don't do the 1500 meme for months

>>76356205
Yes.

>>76355488
>>76355493
>>76355495
>>76355504
>>76355522
>>76355523
>>76355575
>>76355523
>>76355990
I ran out of nun pictures that fit the general themes of weightloss, being active, eating right, summer fun, ect. The current arc is about strictnun's mother who turned into an alcoholic following the death of her husband and abandoned her daughter at the convent, now, 20 years later she came back and is trying to reconcile with her daughter who is now in her 20s and acts as a surrogate mother to clumsynun. Following their reconciliation scritcnun's mom is playing at being the loveable grandmother type figure and spoiling clumsynun and her friend froggynun with gifts. Its sweet and heartwarming and all that but not weightloss related in the slightest, and rather than repost the same dozen or so clearly weightloss related pictures again I decided to just let someone else make the threads for awhile. I just picked up posting the nuns because that was the tradition when I got here and the threads kept 404ing without someone making a new one so I just took it on myself to make the threads.

So what I'm saying is I probably won't be making the threads for awhile, unless they start making more weightloss/healthy eating/summerfun theme images and if you want to see nuns in the OP one of you should take up the mantle.

As expected, 2kg dumbbells didn't last me very long... Should I up the reps to like 20-30 or even more until I can get some new ones or is there no point?

>>76356535
bodyweight exercises

>>76356535
>2kg dumbbells didn't last me very long
what was even the point of buying them? You can get to a higher weight just using water bottles in a bag.

Doing up to 30 reps will still build muscle, provided that you go to failure.

>>76356535
Doing something is better than doing nothing, so yeah up the reps in the meantime, but get some adjustable dumbbells.

If you go the fixed weight dumbbell route you'll end up with like dozen sets of dumbbells by the end which means spending far more and taking up waymore space than just biting the bullet and getting the adjustable set from the start.

I bought some psyllium husk for fiber during my cut and it doesn't dissolve in water at all, it mostly just sinks to the bottom of the glass. Is this normal? all the videos I've seen show it turning into a goopy liquid.

>>76356585
No mine dissolves in water, but the stuff I got is a lot finer of a powder than your pic. Try add it to a fruit smoothie in a blender.

>>76356205
I wanted to be a /fraud/ but when I saw the price of Semaglutide I decided that growing some willpower was cheaper on my NEETbucks. Now after 3 months omad, honestly I don't even feel hungry, like I sometimes even skip meals, but most times I eat even without feeling hungry for the day. Appetite suppressants don't even sound appealing anymore since I don't have an appetite to suppress in the first place.

Why don't they have more cheat drugs for weight loss? I was looking through all the legal ones, 99% of them are just appetite suppressants. The only one that I found does anything is Orlistat/Xenical which apparently makes you absorb 30% less fat from food, but if you're not eating anything fatty to begin with it kinda does nothing? Would be cool if there was something like that for protein and carbs.

On the illegal side there's DNP which sounds amazing, makes energy production less efficient so it boosts your metabolism making you burn more calories, but there's the small problem that it kind of kills you if you overdose by even a little bit, and apparently can't be used along with calorie restriction or smth?

Bros I put on more muscle in my arms in 2 months doing pushups whenever I felt like jacking off while eating a lot of protein compared to when I went to the gym for 2 months straight every other day but eating sub-optimal protein.

Diet really is everything bros

>>76356218
lose fat and build muscle to replace it

I am 179cm and have gotten myself down from 93 or 94kg in September last year to between 78-80kg now, it fluctuates a little.
Through a kilojoule deficit of around 7,500 a day, some running, and formerly some low weight high rep lifting.
I am now essentially at a 'healthy' weight.
Except I still have a very high bodyfat %, 24-25% the last time I checked with the US Navy method:
>38cm neck
>96.5cm circumference measured at the navel
A complication is I developed tendonitis in my right arm in late April and have had to stop any upper body exercise that requires lifting with my arms, which is most. Flexing my bicep, rotating my forearm, squeezing my fingers, holding anything heavy is agony.
I can still do pushups (it doesn't immediately hurt but has generalised pain afterwards) and have begun situps out of a lack of anything else to do, plus physio therapy forearm flexor and extensor exercises. I still do squats. I try to do these 2 or 3 times a week.
And run at least twice a week, I am up to 5.8km in just under 31 minutes, I sometimes sprint another 500-600 meters when I get back.
What can I do about my still high bodyfat %?

>>76356685
swimming

>>76356708
Could you elaborate on how that would differ to running?

>>76356685
lose more weight, you're at the upper range of "healthy wheight" for your size. I'd say go down to at least 70. Also, the other anon is right, swimming is probably the best way to gain upper body muscle with tendonitis

Not eaten today. Might not eat tomorrow either. Return to PSMF Friday, hoping to maintain my 2kg/wk loss.

>>76355735
I stopped giving myself deadlines. I am gradually losing weight, not as fast as I could have because I stumble sometimes but I am still progressing. I just used to give myself objectives that were too strict and whenever I realized that I wasn't gonna make it I strongly felt like giving up.
But now that I'm not worrying about getting to my ideal shape before this or that event I'm able to keep on keeping on indefinitely, which is the important part.

>Only lost 5lb this week

NGMI

>>76356774
How many feet and toes is that for non-subhumans?

>>76331866
I decided to try it too, those RMR gains seem too good to pass up on. Then again I've already lost ~140lbs so it might be too late to see a meaningful result, I've still got like 20~40lbs to go but might as well give it a shot. Anyway I just got it, the paper said they were encouraged to wear it 10+ hours a day when they were most active for six month. So for the next six months I'll be training like Goku I guess wearing this thing from the time I wake up to around dinner time. Weighing myself before and after putting this thing on added +26.1lbs to my weight (I'm ~185lbs atm) so its about 14% of my weight. Study said maximum of 15% so seems about the correct weight for now. The vest is maxed out so I can't really add more, ah well. Wearing it directly against my skin was rather uncomfortable as it chafes so I put on a baselayer under it and that seems to have solved that issue. You can tell its there under my clothes if you look for it but I imagine most people won't know I'm wearing it.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41366-025-01795-5
>Participants randomized to the weighted vest group (WL+VEST) additionally received an appropriately sized vest (Hyper Vest PRO®, Austin, TX), based on their ability to wear the vest under clothing and complete a full range of motion/chest expansion without restriction, and were asked to wear the vest up to 10h/day during the most active part of their day (with a goal of at least 50% of awake time wearing the weighted vest). The weight of the vest was increased weekly by study staff, with the goal of replacing all lost weight up to a maximum amount of 15% of the participant’s baseline weight. Compliance with the weighted vest protocol (including weight in vest and wear time) was collected weekly via self-report. Participants were asked to follow the dietary prescription and wear the vest during the first 6-months, only; participants were not contacted or on study protocol during the year after the intervention ended.

lol

>>76356744
see >>76356738

>>76356785
Very good for walking in London too.
Gives you a 50/50 chance of blocking a knife.

>>76356785
>>76356794
modern day brigandine

>>76356738
swimming is probably the best way to gain upper body muscle with tendonitis.
Running does not train the upper body to any great degree.

>>76356823
How will it do that?

>>76356803
Large shirt over that bad boy, all you need is a kevlar scarf for your neck you can win any machete 1v1 in the UK

>>76356793
swimming uses your upper body muscles in contrast to running, and is very low resistance so it should hopefully not trigger your tendonitis. it's not bodybuilding obv but better than nothing

>>76356859
sometimes any the resistance of any pressure can be painful

5 day check in
started at 131.6kg on the 5th, weigh in this morning at 128.2kg
staying under 2000 calories a day, so far so good. doing lower carb but not trying to do keto or anything. mostly cook my own food (normally turkey mince for dinner) but treated myself to a roast chicken from the supermarket
been walking 10k steps each day. shits killing my shins but what can you do. will start lifting next week

>>76356785
unfortunately I have knee joint problems, so I'm glad about every pound less that I have to carry around, otherwise I'd be tempted to get one too.

>>76356884
welcome, make sure to sign up for the fatty contest

>>76356781
2.2kg,

I lost 3.2kg per week the past couple of weeks and I worked harder this week...

>>76356774
>lost substantial weight
anon you are empirically and mathematically making it, all you need to do is proceed

>>76356882
just give it a try you fucking double nigger and stop doing it if it hurts

>>76356794
honestly a good idea. Running around with an actual stab protection vest will probably give you a confidence boost if you're unfortunate enough to live in some hellhole like London.

Am I meant to be fatigued on retatrutide?

>>76355552
>binge and restrict
Surely this could only end favorably

>>76356785
>Sample size is 18 people.
Why do you people even post these "studies"

Gained 20lbs since the start of the year. Been eating way too much. Now 183lbs and 5'11". I think a lot of it is booze, I've been drinking like 3-4 beers a night. I think if I can quit drinking it'll help me a lot.

>>76356933
You're not 'meant' to be fatigued on retatrutide, but it's normal, you're in a calorie deficit, essentially starving with a full stomach.

>>76356495
Give me nuns or give me death.

>>76357017
You're not alone anon, there's a lot of (ex) alcoholics in here. You'll be better off for it, and alcohol has a shitton of calories, so yes it will help a lot.

>>76357020
So it's a symptom of severe calorie deficit? I'm struggling to eat and am only getting half of my protein goals atm.

>>76356548
Can't do everything with bodyweight, alas.
>>76356553
They were available basically next door for pennies. And given that I never lifted anything heavier than a pen I thought I'd get more mileage out of them.
Water bottles (in a bag or not) are uncomfortable because of the grip and the center of mass.
>>76356565
Adjustable dumbbells are pretty pricey in my neck of the woods, and I wasn't sure if I'd be able to commit enough. But at this point I should probably get some.

Do any of you have any experience with Ozempic

>>76357100
ozempig

Is the fat around the lower belly always the last to go away?

>>76357113
Basically yeah. If a thin person gains weight that's the first place it goes

>>76357017
Okay? And what?
Why are you eating too much? why are you drinking? why did you let yourself gain 20 lbs? Why are you telling me all the ways you're actively fucking up like you haven't been completely cognizant of your actions for the last 189 days? What's different today? Or tomorrow, or next Monday, whenever you're telling yourself you are going to start again. This isn't some epiphany like you just realized what you're doing, you've had 189 opportunities to do the right thing and you haven't taken a single one.
Fix yourself.

>>76357069
Yeah. Smoking weed can help increase your appetite, otherwise lowering the dose is really the only way.

>>76356785
Just completed my first walk with the vest, I could tell I wearing it but It wasn't substantially more difficult than not wearing it, I don't think it'll be too hard sticking with using this thing. It does seem effective at elevating my heart rate and keeping it up longer. After just a short jog I'd be in Zone 3/4 and it would take longer than usual for it to drop down to Zone1/2. Jogging/Running took some getting used to as it likes to bounce heavily on the shoulders which was mildly uncomfortable using my usual stride, I adopted a less bouncy stride and was able to minimize this. I also noticed that I felt any slouching I did more keenly, as moving my torso off the centerline felt a lot heavier than usual so I imagine it might make me more conscious of my posture going forward. According to polar's app I burned about 200 more kcals than yesterday's walk just by wearing this thing.

>>76356954
That's partially why I wanted to see if I could replicate the results myself. Vests are relatively cheap and I've always wanted to train like Goku.

>>76357185
As I've lost weight its gotten a lot harder to get my heartrate up. This is interesting, but I worry about beating up my knees too much. I've been really ramping up the miles lately and its gotten to the point where I have to ice my knees after cardio

I need to vent guys, maybe someone can offer some advice

Back in 2016 I was lurking here often, posting occasionally, and began my weight loss journey seriously

I lost 80lbs by the beggining of 2017
But in the years since, I have gained it all back
I want to lose again, but the big motivator I once had isnt there anymore, and hasnt been there for several years

I want to get back to that place, where I was eating good, running everyday, thinner, going to school and just feeling good in general

With my biggest motivator gone I just feel hopeless, like there's no point anymore

>>76357192
It did raise my heartrate even when I was just walking, I'll have to keep using it to see if I start developing any issues or pain, so far it doesn't seem that bad. Especially if you only intend to walk while wearing one, only when I was jogging/running to get my heartrate back up did I really notice it.

I am a bit worried about cleaning this thing, taking the weights out to wash it will be laborious, putting all the weights into the vest took like 20 minutes yesterday, and I certainly drenched it with sweat during my walk.

>>76357212
I was similar to you, lost 60 lbs in 2016, gained it back and never made a dent that big again until last year. I'm 30 now and I realized I spent my entire life fat, and these are the last few active years I have. There's plenty of time to be a lazy fatass 30 years from now, but I figured I shouldn't miss out on this last opportunity while it's still here.

>>76357212
What was your motivation then?

>>76356904
Ye, but last week I lost 7lb. At this new rate it'll take me the best part of a year to get to a healthy weight,

>>76357224
You lost water weight

>>76357221
I was in a LDR

When the realization of actually having some trajectory in my life, building a home and a family with someone, it made me want to be better and get my shit together

Lost weight, busted my butt to get through school after nearly flunking out of community college, I wanted to be my best for them and our future children

I moved across the country to be with them

But it was clear only one of us was working toward that life

The relationship ended back in Feb, but my weight gain started to skyrocket in 2019 after it became clear the future I wanted and worked for wasn't going to happen

Now that the relationship is over, with my future being up in he air, Im kind of in limbo

>>76356611
>2 months straight every other day
>no rest and subotpimal protein

>surprised at no gains
c'mon

Good morning, frens. Stay strong.

>>76357219
>plenty of time to be a lazy fatass 30 years from now
lmao good point

>>76355586
stay strong hamsterkun

>>76357242
It sounds like you should talk to a healthcare provider about your depression. Lack of motivation is a telltale symptom.

>wake up at 2am to piss
>can't fall back asleep

now I get to spend the rest of the day feeling like I'm seconds away from a heart attack with my hormones all fucked up, thank you bladder

>>76357340
explain how pissing in the night causes this

>>76357419
it's from the acute sleep deprivation

>>76357419
>with my hormones all fucked up
They must be a woman, thats why.

>>76357212
Just take the first step dude. Make it so that you're in a caloric deficit by the end of the day today. Motivation comes and goes... you should at least be able to do the bare minimum if you have no motivation.

>>76357340
avoid caffeine at least 12 hours before sleep

>>76357340
>2 am
Thats when I go to sleep

>>76357212
Start treating fat as an outward reminder of your gluttony and how disguistingly poor your impulse control is. Everyone else you see who is fat is in the same boat. It is a complete failure. Your motivation should be that your life cannot even begin until you become a normal human being who is comfortable with their own body. It feels 100% better to do something bad like drinking or binge eating when you wake up tomorrow skinny. Nobody says "eww" when a skinny person eats a giant burger but when you do its a circus show. Start hating yourself and then you can finally improve yourself. Once you get skinnier again start hating other people who didn't take the initiative you did.

>165 pounds down
>thinking of cutting out zero sugar soda because it may be delaying the scale because water weight
>realize how retarded that sounds given i've been drinking it this whole time and the scale is still dropping
>continue drinking

>>76357494
It sounds harsh but when you're an alcoholic, obese, whatever self-love is the absolute worst thing for you. If the people around you coddle you then self-hate is the only way to improve yourself and get to a point of improvement and I mean active self-hate not the passive type you bury under food.

>>76357509
instead of self-love, it should be self-respect

>>76357509
I like to call it tough love

>>76357509
that's how you end wondering why you still hate yourself after you lose the weight

What's the longest it's taken you to get a whoosh when you absolutely KNOW you have been at a deficit?

It's 8 days for me now and the scale refuses to go down, I use a food scale, I don't drink any calories, I carefully measure sauces and oils, etc.

Hoping tomorrow is the day, I need to abstain from salt and carbs for a bit.

>>76357538
a month maybe

>>76357532
Not really with that mindset you begin loving yourself as you lose the weight and gain self-respect. If you do it for external sources like the other post then once you realize you lost the weight and nothing has come from it then you just gain it all back. All progress and achievement should be about something either intrinsic or a reason that won't go away once you become skinny and your life still sucks.

>>76357544
whatever works for you, but hating yourself is typically the reason people become alcoholics or obese. someone who cares about himself doesn't let his body end in that way. you can lose weight because you love yourself and you want to undo all the damage you did to yourself during worse times.

>>76357542
Man, that's a wait. Was it a big drop?

I also JUST started lifting, so my muscles are holding more water. Just wish number would go down.

>>76357554
You don't hate yourself for eternity. You hate being fat and your fat self. You start treating being fat as a reflection of your imperfections and see it as a reflection of others imperfections and once you start losing the weight you begin to see it as healing. You become too complacent in neutrality if you start out from a positive place

>>76357563
like 7-10 pound drop. my body is weird. right now i'm over a month but that's because my eating is fucked up. i think i've gotten too complacent even though i still have 40 pounds to lose

>gone up 3lbs this week
>ate almost nothing
I hate water weight

>>76357586
i've been drinking a lot of water because I have been feeling thirsty but not quenched. I gained 2lbs recently.

>>76357565
You also weak to carbs and salts?

I got a sweet tooth, I had banana bread for breakfast which is gonna make me gain water weight.

>>76357192
As an experiment I tried just doing a single lap with minimal running, so half the distance compared to my typical route, but this time just walking the whole way with the vest on. The vest managed to keep me on the edge of Zone1 most of the time with only a few dips into Zone0. Just walking like this usually does nothing for me, I'd be Zone0 the whole time. So this is an improvement over that at least. So I guess if all you plan on doing is walking it'll still help with that.

Do you need more sleep when you start exercising?
I notice that 7 hours aren't enough anymore

>>76357693
Yes, especially if you've been sedentary awhile. Just get as much sleep as you feel like you need, your sleep requirements will normalize after a few weeks. I was sleeping like 9~10 hours when I started then I was back to my typical 6~7 hours like a month later.

>>76355479 (OP)
>start of a new cut
>diet fatigue
when is it worse?

>>76355479 (OP)
how do ya'll be on a diet and also excercise/cardio?
>if my diet is good i have no energy to move
>if i'm doing cardio/lifting then i need more food for energy for the rest of the day
wtf is this conundrum?

>>76356425
177cm, so I'll be normal weight after 10 more kg

>85 degrees
Perfect temp to run.

>>76357731
Eat low-caloric foods.

The closer I get to my goal weight the more I feel fear. I'm not ready to make it.....

>>76357731
Only lifting is hard for me on a diet. I can do cardio without increasing calories

>>76357731
Carb timing is pretty critical if you want to be on restricted calories/carbs and still maintain decent athletic performance. Lyle McDonald has written a lot of good literature on the topic if you want to learn about it.

tl;dr you need to eat your carbs when your muscles are the most sensitive to insulin, so after fasting and exercising

>Be me
>Fit combat sports type until 20s
>Compounding personal tragedies happen
>Eat feelings till 260lbs
>Had enough, get back in shape over the next year
>Feels good
But wait, that's not all
>Apparently getting back in shape once wasn't enough
>Manic Depression kicks back into depression, balloon back up to 240
>Now getting back in shape for a second time in the last decade.
I feel so retarded.

>>76357790
Join the club.

>>76357820
The only bright side is my body doesn't seem to want to hold onto the fat - so it just melts off the moment I start dieting and working out.

>>76357790
Happened to me as well
but twice now
I'm on my 3rd long diet this time fr fr

>>76357242
1. never do it for an external motivating factor. while this can sometimes help you get your ass in gear, you should do some soul searching within yourself to find the intrinsic motivation to keep going. extrinsic motivation tends to be temporary, while intrinsic motivation is more or less eternal. if for no other reason, do it for your own health. look at all the potential ways you can suffer, and ask yourself whether or not you're willing to deal with those debilitating issues vs. having a healthy lifestyle.
2. LDRs WILL NOT WORK unless you have a plan to close the gap and be in person ASAP. don't waste your time on that shit. t. time waster who had too many LDRs

>>76357850
> the intrinsic motivation to keep going.
I just want this back muscle

>>76357865
ain't nothing wrong with that, but if the process of getting there is too much of a pain in the ass, then you're never gonna make it. your process has to be bearable, but preferably enjoyable to not only see the results you want but maintain them.

>>76357870
Good thing I like exercising.
The diet is the problem...
I like milk too much....

>>76357874
just don't GOMAD and you'll be fine.

>>76357877
How the fuck do people drink a gallon of milk a day?

>>76357882
beats me, I have never done it, but maybe there are schizos on this board who would prescribe such solutions to hapless board users. just saying.

>>76357882
Cup at a time.

>>76357882
If you like milk its surprisingly easy, I'd down a gallon of whole milk without much trouble back when I was 300+lbs.

How do you gain arm strength without lifting weights? I bought a pull up bar but it's pretty much unusable in my current state, I couldn't even do dead hangs without it killing my arms in 5 seconds so I definitely need to do something less intense to build up that strength

6 foot tall 280 lbs.

>>76357919
Practice Australian pull up first.

Aldi Bramwells chicken in white sauce
400g can
Half is 134kcal and 26.3g protein
Theres gotta be a scam going on here there is no fucking way this tin is only 268kcal
Equivalent cans of it from other brands are almost double the calories so what is going on with these? I can't find anywhere online even bringing this up outside of using it in recipes.

>>76357790
You're not alone anon.
minus the fit combat sports part I was pretty much the same. In good shape as a kid, got mental issues, got fat, lost the fat fueled by self-hatred and because I saw it as a way to regain control of my life, realized losing the weight didn't fix my fucked up mental state, regained all the weight, now I'm here again, losing it again.
Did you work on your depression and find ways to deal with it? If not that should probably take priority. Not saying you can't do both, but unless you fixed your mental state you're basically building a house without a foundation.
I managed to fix my depression about 90% of the way (as in I'm functional and even happy most of the time, but I still have the occasional short-term relapse) which gives me hope that this time I'll be able to maintain the weight after losing it (and life is much better now), but if you didn't fix the underlying issues, you're just repeating the same steps over and over again.
Picrel, lesson 4.

>>76357919
Dead hang for as long as you can 5 times in a row with a few minutes of rest between sets.
Once you can dead hang for like a minute start doing negatives, (jump up grab the bar and slowly lower yourself). Do 3x10 of those.
Eventually you'll get to the point where you can do a pull-up, then just try to beat your previous record workout.

>>76357970
How to fix depression?

I am increasingly finding that the same calories in fat and some protein keeps me satiated for longer than high volume, low calorie vegetables. Volume eating is a meme.

>>76357919

>>76357982
Kissing girls you find attractive helps a lot.

>>76357882
Chocolate milk gallo if you want to make it

>>76357919
Lose weight, i think even if you did pull down or whatever you're going to be a long way off from doing a pullup.
Not trying to be demoralizing, i couldn't do a single pullup not that long ago and now i can do a few even though my lifts haven't really progressed at all just because i've lost weight.

I'm a year in to my serious fitness journey with my wife. I've been lifting on and off again since I was 19, (31 now),, 3x a week with a few missed days because life happens (work travel, honeymoon, etc). I started with powerlifting, and after my first PL meet I placed in my division and got a medal, started doing Strongman after. Midway through my journey, I got my hormones tested and learned i make a very low amount of testosterone (numbers like 160, highest 260). Doc almost put me on Clomid, instead got Test/hcG from an online pharmacy. All the sudden feel not histrionic and neurotic. I'm a cheater bc I have a coach that i see those 3x a week but i think its helped me maintain consistency.

a year in though, im finally tracking macros, instead of eating as many high protein meals as I can. I'm at 245lbs, but could stand to lose 20-30lbs. i DL 440, bench 220, squat 400ish iirc. Hike intensely on varied elevation twice a week, will add a weight vest soon. Take my 5g creatine everyday with some citruline malate and pycnogenol+ginseng (recovering from pied). I take my glycine with chamomile tea at night, I have a CPAP now because my sleep therapist said i have extremely severe sleep apnea.

My current struggles are that
> I still don't sleep enough, i need at least 1-2 more hours of sleep, i just lose track of time and sleep at midnight or 1am.
> Love whole milk and dairy too much. I love fats. I could easily drink half a gallon and not even think about it. I limit to like a quart a day.
> hitting macros while also cutting is hard as fuck to organize. I love cooking too, so most of my meals are the same thing everyday, which can really put a damper on the fun of cooking.
> want to start swimming, but almost all the pools here are closed or inaccessible without an expensive membership, or are open to the public 2 hours in the middle of the day.

A strongman dude at gym said my arms are big tho, so i'm getting somewhere. like and subscribe.

>>76355479 (OP)
I ate like 500 kcal today and am confined to my bed. Losing weight would be impossible without being a NEET.
Wageslaves btfo once again

>>76357919
by lifting weights

>>76355479 (OP)
is there any harm in just dieting down to my goal weight without lifting and then starting a lean bulk?
i hate having to lose weight and lift at the same time

>>76357982
If there was a 1 size fits all answer, you wouldn't have to ask.
I went to therapy, and learned a lot in there about myself, my issues and my worldview, but different people have different results.
I was derealized and depersonalized when I got there, basically a shell of a human. Took about a year until I was functional again, then 6 more months until I stopped needing therapy.
First I regained some control of myself and my perception of reality, awareness exercises, reflection and basics of cognitive behavioral therapy. Once that got better, the next issue was anhedonia, which in my case meant not only not feeling joy, but basically no emotion. I wasn't even really sad while depressed, just kind of out of it, it's hard to explain to people who never experienced it, I describe it as looking at life through a milky glass. So then I worked on regaining emotional capability. That wasn't great at first, because it brought up a lot of negative emotions too, which lead me to have to work on my self-worth. Once that was better, we went to body image issues (which I still have, but much less), and then some childhood memories that came up during that that I had to work through. Those last 12 months or so I also was in group therapy which helped too.
The biggest issues of mine in the end were an unreasonable self expectation; I have a sort of ideal that is unrealistic for any human (like a platonic ideal of the perfect human) and if I fall short of that I feel worthless, as that's where I derived my worth from. People in the groups often said the way I see life sounds very stressful and not very fun. The second part was some childhood trauma - I wouldn't have used that term before therapy, but I grew up with a disability and while I was convinced it didn't bother me, it did very much play into the body image issues.
But as I said, there is no 1 size fits all solution. Try therapy (CBT is my recommendation) if you can, if you can't you can try to do self-therapy

>>76358015
There's still time to eat

>>76358015
>starving yourself without learning anything
NGMI

>>76357982
>>76358024
Also check the basics and analyze needs. The basics:
Social life, appreciation, bodily health, spiritual health, and purpose.
If you're missing in some of these areas, work on them, they are like the foundation you can build upon.
Good luck anon. 2 years ago I was essentially a zombie and while I never tried to kms, I was about as close as you can be without active attempts. If I could talk to myself back then my old me wouldn't have believed how much better things could really be.
I sincerely hope you can one day look back and say the same.
>>76357988
Only really short term. External validation won't fix the underlying issues.

i had my first mind-blowing mind-muscle connection today
I was doing reverse crunches and I think befoer I was just engaging my hip-flexors mostly
But today I just felt like, pulling my legs with my abs, it was so different, there was alot more force being generated too
And the mucsle fatigue hurt like hell, almost like getting kicked in the balls lmao

>>76358031
>without learning anything
Such as?

>>76357988
>kissing girls in 2025 when all of them have sucked plenty of dicks
fucking retard

>>76358014
You can keep deep sea slugs? I thought they needed higher pressures. Are they yours? Are they hard to keep? (I realize that timestamp is 4 years ago, but still).

>>76358040
If you don't learn what is healthy to eat and make it a habit, you will just regain the weight when you quit the diet.

>>76358022
I'm doing that because it's the only way I can actually get shit done. Downside is you lose some of your natural built up muscle, which is a problem if you do labor or anything in your day to day life but whatever

>>76358044
But you retards don't even know what is healthy to eat this board has endless debates between ketoschizos and carbtards on wether meats or vegetables are the healthy food.
As for counting calories it's a first grader task, is that what you're so proud about?
You can do your meme 1800kcal diet after you've starved yourself for a lil bit unless you wanna take 1 year to lose 10kg.

>>76358054
>this board has endless debates between ketoschizos and carbtards on wether meats or vegetables
Remember the "broccoli is poisonous" schizoid? Kek.
Deep down we know my diet consisting of 80% sneed oil by volume and 20% white sugar reigns supreme.

>>76358047
yes thank you someone who understands, im pretty sedentary so it's not that big of an issue, i know im just gonna look skinny fat at the end but i feel i'll have more success this route atleast

>>76358047
If you're dieting you're not gonna get shit done at work and vice versa.
You got cucked by being a wagerat. Have fun working on 1500 kcal lmao, bet you're miserable the entire time.

>>76358054
Calorie counting is so basic yet barely anyone is aware of it? do you think the avg joe knows how many calories are in his mcdonalds meal? if you're counting calories you're already smarter than the avg population

>>76358063
and your alternative is?

>>76358065
I know. McDicks has some of the best informations about their (absolutely awful) food. I still have no idea how they managed to put as many calories as they did in the extra shrinkflated Big Mac.
What's really annoying is getting food from delivery apps like a doner kebab and they have 0 information so you're left guessing.

>>76358068
Stop being a wagecuck lol. What were you expecting me to say some magic trick to make it all work?
Your body will reward you with good feelings every time you're over your maintenance kcal and make you feel awful every time you're below because it thinks you live in nature where starvation = death.

This is a given, losing weight is awful.
Doing it while working is extra awful lol.

>>76358085
if you're homeless just buy a house kinda retardation right here

>>76358085
I'm a different anon, but
>This is a given, losing weight is awful.
is just not true.
I'm losing 2kgs/week and I feel decent. Sure during training I get weaker quicker, but that's about it. You don't have to suffer.

>>76358042
I highly advise you do not keep these slugs (Nudibranchs) they're usually super painful in the wild if they've absorbed toxins. They are not mine though. annoying as shit to actually keep. They don't need high pressure, but they like to starve themselves if they don't have the exact food they want like (sponges and shit). They also like to die for any reason, PH, too much movement, not perfect temps, not enough salt. very fragile, maybe a year of life if you're extremely lucky. but more likely a month or two.

beautiful creatures though.

>>76358088
If you can't stop working for a few months without horrible consequences you have bigger problems than having to lose 10kg. Maybe you should fix your financial disaster first.
>>76358091
>I'm losing 2kgs/week and I feel decent
That's bullshit but I'll bite. Explain.

Neets are pathetic. I'd rather wagecuck and have a life than ever be neet.

>>76358093
They sure do look nice, but that sounds like far too much effort for me, yeah. Thanks anon.

>>76358096
Having a life = spending 9 hours every day doing work related stuff, coming back home exhausted with 3-4 hours left for yourself
Dude I've been there before go preach to another choir, being a wagerst stops you from having a life unless your life is at work

I've noticed a lot peoples rib cage aligns perfectly with their pelvis, chest to junk making a perfect straight line provided they aren't fat.

My chest definitely bulges out past my pelvis a bit, is this because I have no muscle or do I have bad skeleton genes?

I am lifting now, hoping some muscle helps me. Still losing fat too.

>>76358104
You look like shit. Actual real life example of why skinnyfat is bad.
Take your body in one direction already either do lean is law and shave that Jeet body hair. Or get some muscles.

>>76358104
I believe when you're losing weight, your ribcage recedes after being thin for a while. I had a protruding ribcage as well when I first lost it and it's less extreme now

>>76358111
>lean is law
lean isn't law. put on some muscle and you wont need to be lean 24/7.

>>76358095
>That's bullshit but I'll bite. Explain.
Sure, picrel is my myfitnesspal app, you can see 4 weeks ago I was at 119, now I'm at 111.2 kgs. Of course I could have faked this picture but honestly that's not worth the effort to shitpost.
As for how I'm doing it, I make no claims that it's a universal thing that works, but it does work for me:
I eat keto, meaning low carbs. Not obsessively (so for example an ice cream sandwich a day as dessert is fine), but I stay away from large carbohydrate sources; rice, pasta, flour, bread and potato.
My protein is mostly lean protein, meaning chicken, fish, shrimps or onions (tofu or dried onions granulate).
To bulk my dishes up I eat a lot of vegetables; broccoli, peppers, zucchini, eggplant are the usual suspects. You want a large ass portion, so you feel satiated.
Also I add strong flavors, which helps me feel mentally happy with my food.
My main foods are: stir fries, mualle (vegetable stew), vegetable pan with fish, zucchini lasagna or zucchini pasta. Mostly stir fries though.
I eat once a day, except some days I also eat 1 egg for breakfast (soft boiled). The big meal is in the afternoon or evening.
Usually I end up around 700 kcals after a day, but I have very little muscle mass (I'm disabled), so a healthy person could and should eat more and achieve the same progress.
Lastly, 30 minutes of exercise a day minimum.
That's about it. I get hungry in the afternoon which is my cue to start cooking.

>>76358118
Prime lean Chico (or any male model at the same rating as him) fucks your girl 100 times out of 100 no matter how much you lift.
Lean IS law you gotta have the face for it.

>>76358120
>onions
They even made the filter include the version with leetspeak where you add the 0 in the middle huh? Annoying. You know what I'm talking about, the thing the tofu is made from.

>>76358126
There's a million different looks that look good to women (or men if you like that). Find some that you enjoy, suits your face and body, and that you can sustain.

>>76358111
I am aware, I am lifting now and hoping to look not terrible in due time.

>>76358113
I can only hope.

>>76358104
Since you like lifting, eat more protein and do more upper body workouts(Chest + arms) and you will be god mode.

>>76357865
>I just want this back muscle
Yates rows, pullups, rear delt flies, lateral raises and upright rows.

>>76358104
Good progress anon, proud of you. Yeah building some muscle, particularly around your shoulders and chest would make you look a lot better, but you're doing okay already. Your plan sounds good, build some muscle and try to lose that last bit of gut.

>>76358120
I believe your weight loss journey I didn't believe you feel good about it.
Nice effortpost, duly noted I thought you were doing keto schizo posting at first which isn't a problem whatever works for you, got me in the first half.
So how many kcal per day? Don't tell me you don't count them.

>>76358120
My bad I missed the kcal part.
So you eat one meal in the afternoon that has 700kcal got it. No way I could do that without being miserable the entire day until I eat.

>>76358153
The trick of taking ozempic to suppress your appetite.

>>76358147
>I didn't believe you feel good about it.
That's fair, in your defense, the knowledge that I am losing weight is definitely playing into the enjoyment of it, if I had this divorced from that knowledge I would eat more.
But I also don't "suffer" from it in the sense that I feel bad during the day or anything like that.
>I thought you were doing keto schizo posting at first
I mean a lot of the keto schizoids in here are legitimately unhinged, so fair enough. >>76358153
>No way I could do that without being miserable the entire day until I eat.
An important detail is that I've pretty much always done OMAD even when I was fat, that probably plays into it. When I grew up I'd have breakfast (cereal) and then not eat until around 4 pm or so and that was it. It's my intuitive way of eating, if you're used to more meals a day I can imagine that being a big hangup. I like it because I can't be arsed to make so many meals a day, I'd much rather go all out for one and enjoy myself.
Also remember my muscle situation, if you're healthy you can probably go to 1k and match my progress.
Even then if you already know what works for you, stick with it, this isn't a race. I once lost all this weight with the same method before, and regained it all, so I may just be a retard who is good at quick weightloss, but horrific at keeping it off. I have plans to prevent it this way, but like all of us in the end I'm just a guy trying to figure out what works for me.

>>76358161
Fuck off schizoid.

>>76358135
All the muscles I built when I was a teenager before I got fat stuck with me somehow how were you able to go through life without building any upper body muslces beats me lmao.
Time to lift.

>>76358120
700kcal a day is unsustainable, i get you want to lose weight and that too quickly but this will just make you relapse, take it slow and steady and try to make lifestyle changes, there is no way you'll be able to do OMAD for the rest of your life

>>76358162
>I once lost all this weight with the same method before, and regained it all
And you will regain it all again.

>>76358137
That's the plan thanks

>>76358143
Yeah down 98 pounds and no loose skin has me happy. I wanna lost another 18 and build muscle.

Hoping to look skinny instead of skinny fat within 3-4 months. And look good within a year.

>>76358162
How were you able to gain the weight back if you do OMAD? You'd have to eat one meal that's like 2000+ kcal.
That's a lot of eating in one sitting.

>>76358170
I know anon, as I said in >>76358162 I already did relapse once.
My main issue is that a close friend of mine is getting married towards the end of the year and I'm supposed to be his groomsman. I REALLY don't want to be a hideous blob on his big day, so that's why I'm doing it so fast. The first time I already went from 120 kgs to 75 kgs, so I know it can be done, but I also know it wasn't sustainable because I regained it all in 2 years.
The plan is to go at the current pace (because as I said I feel great) at least a month more, then I got some personal life stuff coming up so I'll lower the pace then but keep at it until the end of the year.
Once his wedding is over I'll slow down even more and focus on making it more sustainable.
>>76358178
Time will tell anon, maybe you are right.

>>76358170
>there is no way you'll be able to do OMAD for the rest of your life
Why not? Saying as a guy that never has and never will do OMAD.

>>76358168
I have hypotonia from being 'tistic.

I got all the muscular symptoms unfortunately.

>>76358181
Because they stopped OMAD once the diet ended since it's not really sustainable

>>76357970
Unfortunately having Manic Depression is a bit more of a roller-coaster with the fluctuations at least in my case.
I don't medicate as the medications I was always on usually made me feel worse or zombified me in some way, completely neutering my personality.
It's under control now, but I dont think if I spiral again I'll let it get that bad a 3rd time. Already doing the same thing twice is making me feel like a self-sabotaging retard.

>>76358187
unless you're spending your whole life isolated in your room it's almost impossible to just eat one meal a day just because of life events and also getting enough of the macro and micro needed through that as well since a lot of us can't just chomp down 1500-2000kcals in one sitting of actual whole foods

>>76358187
You are hungry the rest of the day because you dont eat enough calories in your OMAD
Eating enough calories in your OMAD actually makes you feel bad, its too much volume usually

>>76358189
I lost 98 pounds in 7 months and I found the most sustainable eating schedule for me is a small <400 calorie breakfast and a large dinner.

I try to get fiber and protein in that small meal, chicken wrap with vegis on a carb balance tortilla keeps me satisfied til dinner.

Fatty Contest
Makimas Footstool
131.15kg
181cm


Guy that created the website, it would be really cool if you could do query params to auto select the contestant so I can just keep my page open or even share progress with friends through an url. Something like this(I suck at coding):

https://www.fattycontest.com/?contestant=Makimas%20Footstool


const _searchParams = new URL(window.location.href).searchParams;
if(_searchParams .has('contestant'))
loadAndShowFatty(_searchParams.get('contestant'));

Made it into an userscript for now, but would be really cool if you could add it desu

>>76358199
1500kcal is 3 Big Macs lmao.
I can eat that in 5 minutes max. If you can afford junk food 2000kcal in one meal is piss easy, too easy actually that's why everyone is so fat nowadays.

>>76358181
Anon this is a fat fuck general, I'm sure you know how. I'd reach levels of "the whale" movie of degeneracy.
I have a big hangup about throwing food out or even packing it back in the fridge for the next day (no idea why), so I'd often cook hungry (because OMAD) make far too much food, then eat it until well beyond being full.
The classics were pasta (2 big plates in one sitting), frozen chicken nuggets or wings, plus frozen fries, plus either sprinrolls or chilis with cheese filling. Sometimes two frozen pizzas with added cheese on top.
Also the big thing were snacks, which I don't count as OMAD (I don't eat snacks now, but I did when I got fat again), so I may eat a bag of tortilla chips and a bag of sweets in a day.
It was not good.
>>76358189
As I said, I've been doing omad pretty much since moving out of my parents house over 10 years ago. When I got really fat I'd eat snacks on the side, but even when healthy I did omad. It's just how I like to eat.
>>76358199
Ironically I find it easier to do than eating "normally". "Normally" you'd have to make 2 meals plus breakfast. That takes a lot of damn time. I get to just cook once towards the evening and be done with it.
On days where I eat with others (friends/family/coworkers) I'd eat two meals though, because obviously those would be too small to sustain me on omad.

Also just to be clear, I'm not advocating for OMAD. If you're not used to it, don't fucking do it. It's just how I like to eat my meals, I'm not making ANY claims for it being any better for weightloss or anything weird like that. There's a reason it's a niche thing.

>>76358214
>mention whole foods
>responds with ultra processed garbage
vaxxed or born retarded?

>>76358221
Are Intermittent Fasting and OMAD essentially the same thing?

>>76358216
again it might work in the weight loss phase but even you admit you've relapsed a couple times already so it's not doing too well, we are social creatures, we use food as an excuse to meet up at various points during the day so when you go out with friends will you just sit there with a water? that's why i feel it's best to lose weight with lifestyle changes rather than finding some fad diet and religiously following that

>>76358230
I'm on 500kcal my brain isn't working

>>76358231
OMAD is a type of intermittent fast

>>76358179
>98lbs down and no loose skin
how??

>>76358231
If you call OMAD intermittent fasting you already lost because you can't even fast for an entire day without cheating yourself.

>>76358199
>a lot of us can't just chomp down 1500-2000kcals in one sitting of actual whole foods
It's not that hard with very fatty foods. For example one piece of beef ribs and a serving of deep-fried potatoes can easily be over 1500 kcal.

>>76358199
it's perfectly doable, but not right away. there's a period of adjustment, but once you get used to it, it's easy. also you don't have to eat insubstantially, you can have a full course meal and that'd work just fine. have the breadsticks, have dessert afterwards (within reason). as long as you're only eating once a day, it's fine as long as you're not stuffing your face and overeating for that one meal.

>started at 440lbs
>now at 189lbs
>did hold this weight since almost a year now
>new stretch goal is 174lbs
>only people that im getting compliments from are older (55+ years old) women
still a win in my book honestly

>>76358238
>when you go out with friends will you just sit there with a water?
this phenomenon is just another one of our societal ills. tf is it any business of yours that I have abstained from eating in this particular moment? fuck off bitch. I never understood this shit. if I don't want to eat, I don't want to eat, why do you want to force feed me? is it because if you're the only one eating, you feel guilty about it for some reason? is it because you also would like to abstain from eating, but you're too much of a pussy to say it out loud, or you're afraid of what people will think about you because you're not following the crowd?

it's the same shit from when you were a kid and your mom/grandma/aunt wouldn't let you leave the table until you cleared your plate. fuck off bitch, I'm not hungry, I ate what I ate, stop being a goddamn architect. just saying, your tolerance for food is a personal/individual thing, who are you to tell me to eat less/more? I just don't get this way of thinking.

>>76358330
fuck the grannies they're hot

>>76358231
Intermittent fasting is often more of a 18:6 method, meaning all your meals are eaten within a 6h timeframe. OMAD is a 23:1 or 24:0 method, meaning you just eat one meal a day.
>>76358238
>but even you admit you've relapsed a couple times already
Once, but I get your point. The big thing that changed is I was legitimately mentally ill back then, I had to go to therapy to fix myself, and I'm hoping this makes a big difference (alongside with that comes a lot of lifestyle changes).
>so when you go out with friends will you just sit there with a water
We don't often go out to eat honestly, often we meet in a bar or something, and there I'll usually have one drink and that's it for the night (just to not be the weird one without a drink). When going out with others to eat, I try to find the least bad option on the menu (often a salad or chicken dish) and eat that. If it comes with fries or a carb heavy side I give those away to others. I usually eat on those days a second meal though, because a healthy restaurant portion size is too little for omad.
>that's why i feel it's best to lose weight with lifestyle changes
And I'm not arguing with your position on that, it's definitely a good way to go about things. It's just that I know this worked for me before, it's how I intuitively eat and I have that goal of being at my friend's wedding and not be a blob.
>rather than finding some fad diet and religiously following that
Just to be clear: I'm not advocating for omad. Most of the claims about it I see online are like the no-cumming people, pseudoscience and anecdotal. It's just how I like to intuitively eat, I did that long before I ever heard the term OMAD. I do some sort of keto, which definitely is a fad diet, but it helps me with satiety and I'm not religious about it (I make sauces with starch or a tsp of sugar at times, or I eat an ice cream sandwich after a meal).

>>76358336
based autist rejecting the social norms

Can't seem to go below 100kg no matter how hard I try.
Good thing is it's been years and I didn't get fatter than this somehow. Bad thing is I'll probably just say fuck it and start eating junk food again.

>>76358336
Not trying to argue with your position anon, but if you're legitimately asking
>why do you want to force feed me
The answer is that group activities are bonding activities - by doing the same activity together, you build a social bond. You do something together and you make memories together. It build group cohesion. If you are part of the group, yet do not partake in the shared experience, it may feel weird to some people. From their perspective, they are just trying to get you to participate to be part of the group they are trying to do you a favor in a way, even if it's ultimately bad for you.
That being said a good group should accept if you say no.
>and your mom/grandma/aunt wouldn't let you leave the table until you cleared your plate
Well that's a different thing and bad, yeah.

What is your motivation for losing weight? I just wanna see how my face and body look like without all this fat covering it. I have no other strong motivation, don't care about dying early or whatever.

>>76358384
I have a CDL and I want to make sure that I don't have a problems in keeping it. every 2 years you need to get a physical done and you have to maintain healthy blood pressure, blood glucose, vision, and coordination in order to be deemed fit to drive. even if you're not driving, it's good to just keep it, and I want to ensure that I can do that (without taking medication). outside of that:
- I want to be more athletic and do things that I was never able to do, like pull ups
- I want to stave off aging related health problems that may arise out of neglecting one's fitness (aka the aforementioned high blood pressure, etc)
- I want to avoid developing diabetes
- I want to feel worthy of sex. I know I could get laid in my current state, but I restrain myself because I do not feel adequate enough for the women that I would like to pursue. (cue the banner meme of "ever since I got into shape I've felt myself more worthy of masturbating to hotter anime girls")
- I want to look at myself in the mirror and not feel like a subhuman piece of shit
- I don't want to look like I have a baby dick because it's partially buried in fat

>>76358363
eat less

>>76358409
Good for you.

>>76358384
I want to hopefully get off the CPAP machine.

>>76358384
i don't want to go shopping for clothing and i'm getting to fat for my current clothing

>>76358384
Being fat is unhealthy and not fun. When I go on hikes my thighs chafe, when I get up everything aches, I sweat like a pig in summer and I get out of breath quickly.
In addition to that I'm disabled, so what for a normal person would be harder to do becomes impossible for me, I already find walking up stairs not super easy when thin, when fat I have to heavily use the railing.
So I want to regain mobility and make sure I'm healthy so I don't have as many issues when I get older.
Being fat stops me from living the life I want, so I hope losing it makes it possible to get that life back.
Also shopping for clothes when thin is fun, while it's something I dread while fat.

22 hours into a 3 day fast, already starting to feel that sense of awareness and slight euphoria

>>76358384
I want abs. I want to be able to lean over my laptop and not feel fat rolling up.

>>76357044
thanks anon. yeah i think I drink like 700 calories a day just in beer, so if I can cut that out I'm on my way. I need to find a replacement activity. I'm going to try to train my dog more, maybe that will keep me off the bottle more.

>>76357247
It hadn't been an LDR for the past almost 8 years, I moved across the country right after graduating to be with them and cohabitated

But I wont do it ever again

>>76358549
Goddammit meant to reply to >>76357850

>>76358384
I'm planning to stop breathing later this year or maybe next year, depending on how quickly I can get a few things that are important to me done, including my weightloss. Before that, I want to take a few photos/videos of myself in good shape and upload them to Facebook so that old friends and estranged family who decide to look up my name on Google or whatever will remember me like that instead of as a fat slob.

37 minutes into my fast, already starting to feel a tingle in my belly that says it's hungry. it's 3pm and 1121/2230 calories remain.

>>76358567
can't you just AI that shit at this point? there has to be some slimming filter

>>76358384
pussy

>>76358384
I just want to see how bad my loose skin is if I reduce my fat into the single digits
If its bad I'll get surgery

Time to go lift weights

>>76358573
it would probably look fake. Besides, the weightloss itself is important to me. As an almost lifelong fatty, finally getting down to a weight that is acceptable to me is just something I want to accomplish before I die.

wen do i lose my double chin

>>76358199
>a lot of us can't just chomp down 1500-2000kcals in one sitting of actual whole foods
I can.

lads what do you eat to keep yourself sane and locked in on the diet

>>76358646
yogurt with honey or maple syrup
occasionally a protein bar

I'm 10 minutes into getting back to my diet. So far so good.

>>76358646
Water, and time. You and your body gets used to not eating like a pig for slaughter.

>>76358646
Greek yogurt, zero sugar soda, 25 calorie minute maid popsicles.

>>76358570
avg fastard

>>76358384
It started with self-loathing but the more weight i lose the more goals start to appear. Now i just want to get lean so i can dance better. I never danced before.

>>76358646
Genuinely the leanest muscle meat you can find. If you can eat 1kg of meat per day for only 1000 kcal you will feel a lot more sane with a full belly than if you were starving yourself like a retard.

today's "diet" has been a complete disaster I kept drinking alcohol, drinking soda, snacking etc.
yet I still feel slightly hungry now that the day is over, this means I should still be in a caloric deficit right?

>>76358716
No. That hunger could mean you're thirsty, or lacking macronutrients.

>>76358409
I have a CDL also, kinda wish I went a different direction in life, but if you aren't using it I believe you can register it as private use and you will no longer need the physical until you plan on using it legitimately again

>>76358646
Not being on the diet makes me insane actually. When the weight goes down, all is right in the world. When the weight stops going down, THAT is a problem.

>>76357250
Good to see you hatman

>>76358803
Hello fren

>yesteray's weight: 146.1
>today's weight: 147.7
wtf i didn't even that much yesterday

>>76358878
It just happens sometimes. Usually goes away the next day but sometimes it takes 2-4 days. If after that it's not gone you're doing something wrong and should lower caloric intake.

>>76358878
always look at weekly averages, a lot of factors can influence your weight day to day

>>76358885
you should take at least 2 weeks worth daily measures before doing any drastic changes

>>76358646
Fruits

>>76358892
meh, if you're already measuring yourself daily as you should, and suddenly there's a big gap to what you expect (like going +1 up instead of down by .2 or something), then a few days are enough imo. Also I didn't say drastic changes, just reducing your caloric intake a bit.

>>76358716
It is so hard not to drink. 5:50 now and I’m dying for a beer. I am eating chicken and salad tonight and hopefully won’t drink.

>>76358696
Filet? Chicken? Turkey? I guess filet is still kinda fatty

>>76358567
have you considered that maybe if you stopped being a fat bitch you wouldn't want to kill yourself?

Wednesday is half off sushi day!

>>76358998
Way ahead of you.

>>76358998
>half off sushi day
The day where you eat half off the sushi you usually eat? Good idea, helps with the weightloss. Wagmi anon.

>>76359003
You got sushi too? Ive basically consigned wednesday to be the day I dont hit my protein goal.

>>76359050
I'm doing PSMF so I get a free meal and a refeed per week. I had sushi for my free meal.

>>76358998
can't eat carbs, i'll have some salmon and eggs tomorrow though

>>76358597
>a year ago i didn't like this woman at all
>85lbs lost
>she kinda cute

>>76359021
I usually eat pretty clean and hit my 140g protein goal and 1800-1900 calorie goal. Wednesdays I eat 2 sushi rolls and get less protein, but still get my calorie goal.

>>76359057
Nice. I prefer a more stable calorie intake, but I dont really have much to lose. The entire diet was 25-30lb this time. Down 21 so far and dieting 5 more weeks.

>>76359071
I prefer running carbs higher. Mostly lean meats veg, and greek yogurt. I still take fish oil though.

>>76359092
>Wednesdays I eat 2 sushi rolls and get less protein, but still get my calorie goal
That's perfectly reasonable then, enjoy yourself anon.

Fatty Contest
ChrigUwU
102.1 kg

>>76358384
Started dating a girl and it finally gave me the motivation to improve my life, though she left me shortly after and now I'm improving to spite her

>Be me 2 weeks ago, weigh 300 pounds at 5'7"
>Go on diet, go on 30 minute walks every day
>Feel great, and losing weight
>Ffw to Monday, couldn't go on a walk early, decide to go later at night before bed
>Walk for an hour this time, go back home take a shower lie in bed
>Heart still beating fast, can't sleep, take doxylamine succinate to sleep
>Heart instantly starts to hurt, I freak out get dizzy
>Convinced I'm having a heart attack and rush into my mom and sisters room telling them I love them
>They freak out and take me to the hospital
>Do EKG test, blood tests, and X-rays
>Wait hours convinced I'm dying
>Come back with the results
>All my tests came back good, in fact they say that I have one of the healthiest hearts they have seen at my weight and height
>They tell me it wasn't my heart, its pill esophagitis
>mfw I owe thousands of dollars over me freaking out over a fucking pill
This is fucking bullshit

>mfw can't work out today because of pain

>have been experiencing hunger pains for the last few hours, but mentally food seems repulsive
>not going away even after drinking fluid and distracting myself and running errands for a few hours
>get mcdonalds cheeseburger because it's the only thing hyper palatable enough to eat in this state
>choke down half of it
>still have hunger pains
what the FUCK

>>76359267
Ah you think pain is your enemy? You merely avoided the pain. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't feel no pain until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but anxiety inducing.

>>76359260
damn dawg a thousand dollars, in this economy? but look on the bright side, at least you're in perfectly good health and you didn't have a heart attack or something.

>>76359260
>get what I perceive as chest pain quite frequently
>ignore it
>it goes away
Why didn't you just ignore it until it went away

>>76359274
you know what thank you anon
got me to stop being a little bitch and get my sets in today

>>76359302
I tried at first, I lied there for hours hoping it would go away and it kept getting worse, my guess is it was both pill esophagitis made worse by a panic attack, which I have a family history of. I told them that and they agreed and said that would explain the dizzyness

>>76359260
seems like you deserve it
>>76359267
>>76359319
if you get hurt you know who to blame

>>76359300
Yeah, and this might be cope but the peace of mind is certainly helping and now I know if I have any future heart problems its probably just in my head
>>76359335
Thank you

>>76358998
sushi is overrated af imo

>>76359335
i think it was just doms and i was being a sissy bitch about it, i had no problems with my sets anyways

>>76359340
Well I enjoyed it. And as someone from southern spain, fish and rice together are something I love.

>>76359342
Glad to hear anon, wagmi.

>>76359260
insurance wont cover it?
what if you just like... dont pay?

>>76359342
you shouldn't train with doms
doms mean the muscle hasn't recovered properly and if it hasn't recovered properly then that means it can get injured easier

I'm all for not being a bitch but I know from experience that injuries are not helpful with anything

>>76359376
This is the plan

Had to stop buying the K2 + D3 gummies because I would eat 50 calories worth lol

Not eating until number goes down enough.
This is gonna suck.

>>76359274
>>76359274
>>76359274
>>76359274

Does it take long for metformin to start affecting me? I've already had the shits, had rice & chicken for lunch and now I'm home and I'm wondering if I'm going to start being hungry for dinner soon but I'm not right now, but I can't tell if it's the meds or because I had a fulfilling lunch.

>>76359470
How down are we talking

>>76359482
2.5kg from what it said this morning.

>>76359487
jesus

>>76359338
A few years ago I got bitten by a stray cat and ended up having to pay about $3k for rabies PEP(insurance jews covered the other $32,000) "just in case"
Not really "peace of mind" either, you bought out of gambling with your life. It is what it is, you can always get more money.

>finally able to do chinups at an acceptable volume to add it into my back routine
>2 days later, forearms sore as fuck

My upper back is sore too but no idea why the DOMS reached my forearms

>>76359549
Chinups and pullups are a compound movement

>>76359487
Redpill me on this. Why not just lose 1 kg or so per week on a normal deficit? Don’t super fast losses risk loose skin?

>>76359583
People are desperate and want quick fixes and don't really want to make lifestyle changes

>>76359583
Slow moving number makes me sleepy.

>>76355479 (OP)
>anons were/are you strong fat or chubby fat?
I was always chubby fat unfortunately but people around me always thought I was strong fat and that I could take them on for some reason and I never bothered correcting their retardation

>>76359592
Is that a better or worse feeling than loose skin?

new thread
>>76359746
>>76359746
>>76359746

>>76359749
If I'm always sleepy, I'll never get to the point of loose skin anyway.

>>76358567
>>76358990
I think the thing that has stopped me from killing myself is the thought and hope that I will actually be able to fix my life and be happy, like I can't let myself go out as the fat autistic loser, maybe just normal health autistic loser is fine though but I think my mindset would change then

>>76360447
okay but I'm >>76358567 and you're not me, and I'm neither autistic nor do I consider myself a loser apart from having failed to get my weight under control.