Thread 76362136

Is this the single most USELESS exercise equipment you could ever use/own?
I remember being happy by easily doing sub-30min 5Ks multiple times on the treadmill, believing my performance was something to be proud of, until I went for my first run outside.
I could only barely reach 3K before getting completely gassed out into a hard stop. It is like I started learning to run from scratch again, the floor was much harder, the sun blasting your face was nothing like the controlled environment of the gym.
And then I came into the realization: What even the FUCK is the point of the treadmill?
All other cardio machines have their uses and purposes, and let's be honest, most of them are actually better than running. (I don't know about bikes though, I avoid them because they destroy your balls)
But the difference between treadmill running and outdoor running is so massively different that now I have to question what even is the POINT of the treadmill. Just go run outside. Can't go run outside? Literally use any other machine for superior gains.

>>76362136 (OP)
no

Just walk back and forth in your house

>>76362136 (OP)
In terms of equipment, the stationary bike is superior. Treadmills are too loud

>>76362136 (OP)
You are an absolute dyel if you thought exercising in hot weather would be the same as doing it indoors with a/c.

>live in a city by the sea
>beautiful sunny weather outside
>see people using this in the gym
wtf is wrong with people

>>76362136 (OP)
I don't hate threadmills but this happened to me.
>easily run on threadmill.
>I'll try running outside
>won't last 10 minutes
>Tibialis about to blow.
it's really diferent

>>76362550
Mine was the opposite.
>can run outside just fine
>try to do treadmill during winter weather instead
>start getting tib and arch issues
>gas out quicker
I think it's easier actually just running outdoors for me because I can more easily make micro pace adjustments

>>76362268
same here. i go to the gym and there's people just walking there for the duration of my workout. like nigga walking is free, outside is beautiful, there's fresh air and a view, why lock yourself into a cage to just walk
i hate them

>>76362136 (OP)
Walking/running outside is free and everytime I see someone doesn't matter if they are DYEL or fat jogging or sprinting outside I always greet them because they didn't wait for the "just let me save money for a treadmill/gym membership" excuse

>>76362268
I don't like putting on sunblock

>>76362562
Same. Unfortunately it's consistently 100F here so it's a necessity right now.

>>76362136 (OP)
>run outside
>run slow enough where you can breath through your nose
>put on some tunes
>run literally fucking forever
it's so chill i feel like a fucking hyperborean gorilla chimpanzee man

Going outside and walking or running is free.

>but what if the weather is bad

literally buy a jump rope for 4 dollars to get your cardio in your room. It also stores in a drawer.

>>76362136 (OP)
LOL you never learned to pace yourself. You're just used to running at the pace set by the machine. I bet you were flying for a few minutes though.
>treadmill runner for 2 years nearly 40 minutes a day
>sister wants me to run a 5k for her school thing
>decide to go feel what it's like to run on a track so I know if I need new shoes
>gas myself to the point of puking in 7 minutes and some change
>check distance 1.5 miles
I ran a nearly 5 minute mile my first time off the treadmill accidentally

So by your own description it's easier and therefore good for training? Thanks OP I've been wondering whether I should buy one or not and you've convinced me they have a purpose.

>>76362268
i live in a coastal Italian town and young people aren't going outside in the sun, aren't drinking, aren't partying and aren't driving
in 10 years i've seen the town go from a lived place full of kids drinking a spritz or a beer in a nice afternoon to a deserted retirement home
even the outdoor tennis/futsal fields are used by middle aged women and men and no young people

I did 32K run last week.

>started running on a treadmill cause I was too autistic to go running outside.
Got down to where I could do a 5k in about 26 minutes by really pushing myself.
>Decide to go for a run outside to see how fucked I'll be.

>Do 5k in 23 minutes without pushing myself hard.

Welp

>>76362136 (OP)
Running outside is easier for me

>>76362136 (OP)
I fell for the meme. Bought it thinking it'd be nice to be able to run in winters or in fall when it's raining heavily. But I fucking hate using this shit, I'd genuinely rather run while it's raining, which I did yesterday, or run on snow than on a treadmill. I'd sell it in a heartbeat, if I knew anyone willing to buy a used one.

>>76362593
I never wave at women, even when they wave at me first.

>>76362136 (OP)
I'm the opposite. Outside is easy because the scenary changes, there is a nice breeze. The treadmill kills me by 5k

>>76362825
It is the best scenario when the weather is bad. When the weather is good, the cardio is boring and not challenging.

>>76362268
>>76362567
You should be happy
more retards inside more space for you outside

If you work from home, a standing desk and a walking treadmill is a game changer. No longer sedentary

>>76365789
florida_man_hurricane_jogging.webm

>>76366240
Yeah, a gamechanger for destroying your ability to concentrate on mentally challenging tasks.

>>76366578
Skill issue

>>76365231
Throw that shit on Craigslist or Facebook Marketplace dude

>>76362136 (OP)
The treadmill is to running what the Smith machine is to lifting.
It's a simulation that requires a fraction of the effort and thus doesn't really prepare you for the real thing that much.

>now I have to question what even is the POINT of the treadmill.
Can be useful for someone who's very obese and can barely walk. Make him walk upwards to one hour every day until he's human-shaped again.
It's a useful tool for cripples to recover. Just like the Smith Machine!

>>76362136 (OP)
About your last point... I know it's summer now but think about in winter when it's raining or snowing and dark, you would be much better off running on a treadmill than outside. Also, the surface of the treadmill being softer/bouncier than concrete or most paths outdoors reduces leg pain. Idk about other people but I used to always get leg pain after running 10 mins outside but most of the time I don't feel much pain after running 10 mins on a treadmill. Finally, and most importantly they attract gym bunnies and some gyms will have treadmills positioned in such a way that you can subtly watch their butt bouncing on the treadmill.

>>76366697
I'm not obese but even when my bmi was 20 I'd get shin splints after running 10 mins outside but I can run on treadmills for 10 mins np

>>76366240
The soleus pushup is free and accomplishes the same thing.

>>76362136 (OP)
you're supposed to keep your hands off the machine

>>76362136 (OP)
Look, I hate treadmills just as much as the next guy. I can't stand running in one spot, same as I can't stand running on a track and just running in circles.
But people like them, who gives a fuck? Let people like things retard.

>>76362268
staying away from nigs

>>76362593
>live in a city
>every single person is cold and distant, shambling around like a zombie
>live in rural retardo land
>every single person you go past on the street or in town will wave, say hi, smile (with the exception of tourists)
I do not miss living in a city one bit.

>>76366240
>a standing desk and a walking treadmill is a game changer
No offense, but you must have a really menial non-job if you can work on a computer and walk at the same time.

>>76365231
did you buy a chink model?
you need to scalp one from a gym as they upgrade or you're fucked

>>76364636
It's amazing, in a way. Younger generations have checked out of living any kind of life except a digital one.

I bought mine during the a heat wave last year. Being inside with the AC on my face and the Japanese toons on my laptop has been way nicer than any run I've had outside.

>>76367580
Come outside nigga

>>76367583
I'm lactose intolerant

>>76362136 (OP)
jUsT rUn OuTiDe
Bitch it's cold out and I'm skinny.

>>76362136 (OP)
I bought one to start the C25K and it helped for the first three months, plus it had a video subscription thing that auto-adjusted the elevation so I could learn proper running form.
After being able to hit 10K+ I started running irl and got the reality check, but it's still useful for avoiding catching a cold in the wet.
Bottom line is they're definitely more of a beginner's tool and you'll end up running outside in the long-term, but they're valuable if you want to run
>During work lunch breaks without time to get to/from the local running track
>Under unfavourable environmental conditions
>Somewhere around the world using the screen's map
>Test new shoes without getting them dirty (great for trialing and returning to the store)
And more

>>76362136 (OP)
Incline Stair master is the only cardio machine worth using

>>76362136 (OP)
can watch youtube while running

>>76367220
No it doesn't
That's a strength exercise while walking is cardio. I can mindlessly walk on the treadmill for two hours while working, doubt you can do your calf pushups for that long

>>76367552
Skill issue

>>76367560
Facts
I theorize that's why so many of them are depressed, and it's not just the kids but the adults too
Everyone is spending way too much time indoors and/or aren't active at all
I noticed once I became more active and started spending a lot more time outside that I had a complete shift in mood, energy, and motivation. On top of that, when times do get stressful or tough, I'm about to control my emotions a lot better

>>76368079
able to*

>>76362136 (OP)
you're fucking retarded

>>76362136 (OP)
Im in the Navy and been forced to do my PRT on a treadmill once or twice because I was at sea and the closest land to run on was a week away

>>76363298
>LOL you never learned to pace yourself.
it's different action altogether to move on solid ground versus staying in place, moving your legs but the ground moves by itself beneath you

>>76368433
I think that's very distantly secondary to just not having learned any kind of pacing.

>>76367654
Woah what third world country is this? Here in Houston it’s 100 degrees every day during the summer.

>>76362136 (OP)
I like the treadmill, I don't know what your problem is. it's a good tool, especially if it gets you to do your cardio with some manner of consistency
>b-but muh nature
god damn hippies. yes, nature is nice, but consider the point about consistency. if you only go out once a week is that really better when you're trying to progressively up your heart rate? and speaking of, modern treadmills will keep track of your metrics, which is good for developing a regimen and pushing yourself.

if it's not for you then okay, but I'm not gonna stop using it because you turn your nose up at it. idk seems like a boomer opinion.

>>76368680
The great 3rd world country of Canada. Send help.

>>76362136 (OP)
The point is to avoid the sun and protect your knees.

>>76367583
>Trying to force me at gunpoint to 2GOMAD
I think I would shit myself to death that has to be cruel and unusual punishment. Fun fact it has to be cruel AND unusual to be bad. If they raped every prisoner with a dragon dildo it wouldn't be both so not unconstitutional.

>>76362268
I pay for the gym, I'm gonna use the gym

Has anyone ever tried one of these things? I don't want to get a standing desk or treadmill, and I like to sit while I work anyway. Do these machines work well enough to serve as light cardio exercise? Or maybe the circulation boost is better than just sitting with still legs doing nothing.

>>76368680
screencap was taken in winter of course

>>76362136 (OP)
i agree with you. they're stupid. i don't see why everyone loves them so much. if you go to gym for the treadmills then you are just paying for something that is already free. people concerned with hurting their knees should just run on grass.

>>76369464
Pretty sure you could just bounce your knee for similar effect and a much lower cost

>>76362136 (OP)
The truth is: it depends.

I have run on treadmills and outdoors for about 10 years. Always set incline at 1 to equalize resistance of the treadmill to that of outdoors. Started tracking heart rate alongside time/pace/distance about 4 years ago.

I have run on treadmills (installed about 2 years ago in my local planet shitness) where my pace-adjusted HR will consistently be 5-8 bpm higher at peak vs outdoors. Those treadmills feel noticeably less bouncy than any other I've tried. They're also hell on my joints (developed iliotobial band syndrome when putting mileage on em). Most treadmills my HR will be 3-5 lower, again at a 1 incline and don't bother my joints any worse than outdoors (i.e. barely at all).

>>76369464
I'm curious to try one of these stationary bikes. Ones like this are $200 on Amazon which seems too cheap to be any good, but surely it's got to be more time efficient that walking?
I don't know if there's enough resistance to matter, Amazon reviews are pretty positive but they're probably mostly bots

>>76362268
america is not walkable

>>76362136 (OP)
if you run, then the treadmill is your best choice for indoor cardio.
if you're not a runner, then it aint, idiot.

>>76362809
can't you run in the early mornings?

>>76364636
>bars, clubs, restaurants are dying
you love to see it

>Ausfag, 60% of the year is either too hot or too cold or I get home too late
>Rather than dealing with that I run for 30min at the gym after everything else
>Run outside the other 40% of the time
wow

>>76369583
i love them because i have knee issues and it's the only way i can run for a decent amount of time

>>76371683
No, you don't, because ever since the mass adoption of the internet by normies, the internet fucking blows and suddenly I see a lot of my colleagues and friends experiencing the same shit I did in middle and high school except their platforms are Instagram, Reddit, and Threads. On top of that, they're attaching their actual identity to these flamewars they're having online like retards

swimming is king

>>76364636
>lock up young people for years to save the lives of fat old people
>"how come these kids aren't used to going out and partying"
Everyone responsible for COVID decisionmaking should be executed

>>76372793
>Society is trapped under the looming weight of boomer overpopulation
>Given an easy out where they can all die of "natural causes"
>Destroy society to keep them alive

Treadmill is for lardasses

I bet VR on a treadmill is pretty sick, imagine jogging down the streets of Rome instead of my shitty white trash neighborhood

>>76374977
I know they have apps to do cycling with vr, you could probably run with them. But from my experience, working out in VR kinda sucks ass since it gets so hot and sweaty right on your face so quick

Incline treadmill is goated cardio for both performance and weight loss.

You can do more than just run on a treadmill.

Why are you retarded?

>>76362268
For me it's because I have intense overactive bladder and sometimes need to piss every 30 minutes. I don't want to walk outside because there's no public restrooms and I don't want to piss in the streets or my neighbor's front yards like some sort of weirdo.

>>76375332
just piss yourself

>>76375337
That's embarrassing. I've been to the doctor but she refuses to check my prostate, says I'm too young so it's impossible to have prostate problems. I don't think that's medically sound to be honest.

>>76375343
>says I'm too young so it's impossible
I've had a doctor say this about something else. He said he wouldn't run any tests because I was too young, even though there are accounts of people even younger than I was having issues. I suspect it's a cost-benefit analysis, and they're thinking about the other patients they already scheduled for the next 30 and 60 minutes.
I agree with you, it's very irresponsible. Malpractice, even. The sooner a person realizes most doctors don't know what they're doing and they don't actually care to do a good job, the better.

>>76375354
That's a shame. It is hard to live like this. I have to dip out at work and social functions all the time to pisa constantly. Nobody seems to notice or care. Or maybe they do and talk about the guy that leaves for the restroom every 30 minutes. I wish I only had to piss once every eight hours or whatever it is normal people do.

>>76375360
If you're able to find a specialist and go to them, I would urge you to. Specialists care far more than general practitioners do, and they typically really do want to help.

>>76375365
Thanks. I need to figure out my insurance. I only went where I did because it's ghetto insurance. I hope you solve your issue too bro.

>>76375296
>You can do more than just run on a treadmill.
such as?

Treadmills? I hate them.
Boots on the ground is the only way to run and walk.
I'm not just saying this because I was left extremely scarred from one as a child.

>>76375438
Walk
Crawl
Handstand walk

>>76362136 (OP)
The only thing they do better than running outside is elevation.
You can stick it on an incline and train for running uphill on a treadmill better than you can outside.
Unless you live somewhere hilly.