CICO doesn't work for women

>she did this for 1 week
Kwab

>women are retarded with numbers and lie a lot(even to themselves, they are delusional)
wow shocking

>>76374458
lmao dis nigga eatin BEENZ

>>76374443 (OP)
Just eat less

>>76374462
Its chunky beef and barley soup.

>>76374458
Looks like Daniel Boone Forest

water weight

>>76374443 (OP)
Soon, we will be able to harvest this infinite free energy that mysteriously only applies in some countries, to power our cities

>>76374485
>>76374485
I think that was in Missouri somewhere but I cant find the pin

I camped in some rec/fishing area for a night

>ate at caloric deficit
>ate only lean protein
>I WAS VERY HONEST
These were the things in her story that I didn't find believable, and I capitalized the one that I found to be the least believable of them all.

>>76374443 (OP)
>I used an app!!1
>I was in a deficit evry day!!!!11
Un-fucking-real
I cant pretend to be as stupid as women are normally

This true?

Obviously. She’s probably on the pill
Or something

Genetics>>>>hormones>>>>cico
Not reading rebuttals

>>76374443 (OP)
If she has the records she can post the records.
If she doesn't she's a lying cunt.
You can usually tell when someone is a lying cunt because they say shit like "I was honest"

question in the same vein. I've started working out two months ago, and haven't lost weight. been on 400mg/wk Test Enanthate. been on average 500 caloric deficit, but weirdly haven't lost a lb. i've been doing excusively keto, (<30g of carbs) and i think i've just been recomping. I have stretch marks on my biceps. actually i don't really have a question i'm just bragging about noob gains.

>>76374443 (OP)
You think a woman would just go on the internet and lie?

>>76374548
This person is fucking retarded and has been for a long time. I remember her trying the pick me shit and then turning into a radfem for clout. Ignore the engagement baiting foid and stick to what works.

>>76373618
>>76374443 (OP)
whatcha doin' rabbi?

>>76374548
women do not exist outside the laws of thermodynamics

>>76374590
>Deficit
>Supraphysiological doses of test
>Glycogen "water weight" depletion from Keto
Yeah no shit you're going to get striations.
What fat source are you using? If it's not nuts (High MUFA ones) or EVOO or Avocados, your heart or arteries are going to KB.
>MUH SAT FAT IN DIET NO TRANSLATE TO BAD CHOLESTEROL
Does not apply when you're blasting or on exogenous hormones. for some reason, the "bad" cholesterol and sat fat metabolism or conversions go wonky during a cycle. Thus on blast or a cycle, the need for saturated fats is minimal (like less than 15/20g).

>>76374519
>Zesty Lemon
ngmi

>>76374548
No.

>>76374443 (OP)
Post daily diet

>>76374443 (OP)
Like the show secret eats.
People are delusional

>>76374443 (OP)
>women don't work
Ftfy faggot

>>76374479
Are you out in the middle of the woods and instead of enjoying nature you are browsing /fit/ ?

>>76374704
but anon the unflavored ones taste like nothing

>>76374800
nah these are old pics
I realized most of my camping pics are of food cuz while i wait for it to cook is usually hen I mess with my phone

>>76374458
>>76374479
>>76374519
>>76374872
You live like Huckleberry Finn. And yet I'm jelly

>>76374443 (OP)
im a woman and it works for me

>>76374902
Those were the days, I had no job, had just gotten out of the military and just drove around the country camping on national land and hiking all sorts of places

I had a planet fitrness black card membership so every other day or so id track one down, get a shower, fill my water jugs and charge my phone

Now I have a wagie job a shitty studio apartment....not sure its even an improvement desu if your not rich it seems like you should just be homeless

>>76374982
And of course the poverty staple, canned chicken ramen and franks hot
decent macros and tastes really good desu

>>76374548
that's when she eats ice cream like a retard and she deserves a treat! So those don't count

>>76374982
I hope you're taking this trash with you and not just throwing it on the ground like a scumbag.

>>76374982
>>76374998
Did you have savings coming out of the military? I would have loved to do something like this back in the day but I had no money at all for food and gas or anything really before I graduated and got a real job.

>>76375006
He's white and enjoys nature there's no reason to be worried.

>women so entitled that being exempt from human laws is not enough they now want to be immune from the physical laws of the universe

>>76375008
Yeah i lived in the barracks and ate at the chow hall for 4 years - people say the military doesnt pay well but military guys are retards with money
I had like 15k in the bank and honestly only spent a few grand over the course of like 6 months most of it on car related expenses- but also I already owned all the equipment so didnt really need to buy anything
i can give you pointers if you want, but im by no means a hardcore camper or outdoorsman

>>76375006
>I hope you're taking this trash with you and not just throwing it on the ground like a scumbag.
this is unnecessarily aggressive lol, obviously >>76375009

>>76374443 (OP)
You gotta give it like a week

>>76375022
Based. Unfortunately I'm an oldfag now (36) and tied down to a career and gf. I have the money but no time. Maybe if I hit a midlife crisis I'll do something like this though kek. I also would have liked being a ski instructor for season and just live in a ski town.

>>76375022

>>76375040
I still think about this old ass meme sometimes. I wonder if that guy is even alive anymore.

>>76374443 (OP)
Did the same thing. Lost 2lbs per week. Zero exercise. Do better.

My best friend's wife always talks this bullshit to me. I don't even want to debate her I just want her to stop talking to me about it

>>76374443 (OP)
If you feel satiated you are not at a deficit

Women are incapable of CICO, expect whatever girl you meet to be the same weight basically her whole life (little fatter when she's pregnant/breastfeeding)

>>76374443 (OP)
>CICO doesn't work

>>76374443 (OP)
>surely neither my estimated TDEE nor my estimated calorie intake could be wrong
maybe try cutting more then you dumb cunt, couldn't think of such a genius plan eh?
She even said she was too full to reach her calorie limit on some days and yet she never wondered if she was eating too much lmao what a dumbass, yeah I too would like to lose weight while stuffing myself like a turkey but that's not how this works.
People trust the numbers provided by their apps and their bracelets way too much, they are supposed to give you a starting point but then you have to find your real CICO through trial and error.

>>76374443 (OP)
>CICO doesn't work for women
It doesn't work for anyone. I guess you can lose a bit of water weight if you crash the calorie intake enough, but that's not a function of calories.

If you believe in calorie counting, you have no clue about science.

>>76375463
That is the usual solution, yes. Since CICO doesn't work, jut eat less. Or less. Or even less (for some reason, nobody ever says "move a lot more"). Ofc this is further proof that CICO is bullshit, but there comes the cognitive dissonance.

>>76375463
You don't even need to do all of that bullshit. 2000 kcal is maintenance for an adult with acceptable weight. Just eat 2000 kcal a day. Maybe start walking too or running if you're feeling fancy. Anyway, I'm eating 1800 daily, run 12km a day and lift for 1 hour every other day. Any fat shit is a fat shit because they're content with being fat shit. If they wanted to lose weigh they'd just do it.

>>76375472
Rope

>>76375433
the section between 0:19 and 0:22 will give me nightmares
>>76375472
CICO is CICO and you seem to fully believe in it, it isn't "calorie counting" that's just a tool that people use to approximate the in and out rather than completely whinging their diet

>>76374443 (OP)
She didn't calculate her deficit correctly. Simple as.
Probably just used an online estimator, slapped in some numbers and said, yep, that's my tdee

>>76375472
if the solution is to eat less that means CICO works. you contradicted yourself

>>76374443 (OP)
Everyone that is a CICO denier is either a fat as fatass or a grifter. No exceptions.

>>76374648
>>76374714
>>76375002
>>76374665
Even giving credence to anything anyone on Twitter says is too much attention.

CICO cultists be like
>the only way to get people out of this stadium is to have fewer people enter than exit it
>”how do we do that?”
>it’s simple, you just let more people exit than enter
>”but what is the most efficient way to facilitate this process?”
>it doesn’t matter, all that matters is that less people come in than go out
>”surely there’s some sort of planning or logistical strategy we can use to facilitate the outflow of people while preventing congestion and long lines?”
>shut the fuck up, stop with your meme crowd management strategies, we just need to get more people out than are coming in. Everything else is secondary
>”but how do we do this?”
>dude the ONLY way to empty this stadium is for more people to leave than enter, do you not understand the basic rules of thermodynamics?

>>76375472
>nobody ever says "move a lot more"
because eating one doughnut counteracts "move a lot more" you dumb shit you have to move a metric fuckload more to even attempt to make up for a fucked diet

>>76374548
yes, but its cope. medical research and nutritional research are separate fields and completely unattached

>My mom has been complaining about her weight all the time
>She says she eats nothing blablabla and no diet works
>She gets on wegovy and eats less
>Lose 15 kg

Women can't count calories, simple as.

>>76375874
>think of shittiest analogy ever
>actually type it out
Have you been tested for something? Be honest.

>>76375433
I got the urge to vomit from watching the first 10s. The no sugar training is working.

>>76374548
Metabolism studies were normalized across men and women differently. This bitch is straight up lying.

>>76375762
>half an hour of yoga, that's at least 400kcal burned

>>76374548
Nigger we are the same species
Eat less

>>76375874
Literally just stop sending out armed goons to kidnap thousands of people off the street, drive them to your stadium and shove them in even though the building is already full to the brim, you absolute retard.

>>76375960
It's worse than that - that's a copypasta.

>>76375433
wtf is this shit?
are men paying to watch her eat so they can jerk off?
is this why men are dating fat hogs because they suck your dick like they inhale food?

>>76375472
>fell for the exercise to lose weight meme
CICO works on any human with normal hormonal levels. now some people need exercise to get those levels in check, but if youre actually trying to burn calories though exercise youre just a retard

>>76376188
Pretty sure birth control is making them perma pregnant (hormone wise) so no wonder their bodies aren’t functioning normally. Thank god for ozempic

>>76376146
>>76375960
You are responding to a copy pasta promulgated by a spammer who has consistently tried to make the phrase "Cico cultists" catch on.

>>76374458
spbp, she obviously fucked something up- probably overestimated how many calories she burns, probably fucked up weighing it, probably fucked up logging it
also 'high protein' is such a dumb meme

>>76374714
uhm.. mods? band this sexist(and probably racist) piece of shit right now!

>>76374443 (OP)
real female CICO has never been tried

>>76374443 (OP)
It's prob cuz she gained muscle and it offset the weight she lost from burning fat. But even tho I'm sure she looked better, noomber didn't go down, so she thinks it's a total failure.

>>76376515
retarded hands typed this

If you eat at a deficit you cannot gain weight or mass of any type

yes you can gain muscle in certain circumstances but you would by definition be burning more fat and still have a lower overall weight

>>76376524
That's provenly not true. You can absolutely gain muscle in a deficit, especially if you're a beginner. Not as much as at maintenance or bulking, but still some.
And it's definitely possible to gain enough weight in muscle to offset the weight of the fat you lost, especially if it's a modest deficit and you're not losing a ton of fat.

>>76376593

>its possible to gain weight at a modest deficit

>>76375087
>I wonder if that guy is even alive anymore.
I had to look it up. RIP beenz man.

>>76374443 (OP)
literally the definition of NGMI

>femgroid
>very honest with itself
lol
lmao, even

>>76374911
>it works in my machine
cutting off your dick doesn't make you a woman

>>76374800
Filename, retard.

>>76376887
F

>>76375433
this bitch ate fried chicken 4 separate times in one day lmao

>>76374458
Where do you do BM?

>>76374479
i used to eat this until i ate it one day while sick and barfed it all up. i cant eat it no more

>>76376887
rip in peace, King

>>76374548
What is a woman?

>>76381249
>BM
you mean poop?

Sometimes in the woods, but when I can I try to find a gas station or time it when I go to the gym to shower and lift

>>76381260
I dont blame you, one time I puked up pasta and it was unchewed and I think about that when I eat pasta now and it makes me not want to eat it
Im not trying to brag but im lucky that I have trained by body to run on absolute garbage...im sure it will catch up with me eventually but im honestly amazed I can eat this shit and feel healthy

>>76381513
forgot to attach

>>76374462
Thinking about them beans

>>76374458
>>76374443 (OP)
>2 genetic twin mice having same diet and same workout routine
>one gets fat other stays the same weight

huh seems like CICO is wrong

>>76381638
Bro i PROMISE YOU the bitch is OP is not failing to lose weight because of "ineffective microbiota transmission"
She is not losing weight because she doesnt count the 500Kcal of ranch on her salad or the 1000Kcal from her starbucks drink

> "what is just a coffeeeee!!"

>>76374443 (OP)
I unironically believe that post.
My gf is 6' and like 280lbs, she's been eating at a theoretical deficit for a long time now, not sure how many kcal exactly recently but not a lot, prolly around 2000 a day or less and her weight loss is so painfully slow I'm not sure if it everntakes place anymore. We WFH and eat together, so I'm pretty sure she's not downing oreos in the bathroom when I'm not looking. I have no idea what more she could do except of going obscenely low on calories to the point of eating like a 100lbs girl. I'm a plapper fetishist, but I'd rather have her down to 220lbs, sadly it's not happening and I'm growing more and more disappointed in how it looks.

there's a hydroelectric dam
when there's excess water it gets routed for storage which can then be use during dry times to keep energy production levels stable
but there's a clog in the pipe the excess water needs to flow out
the storage keeps filling up way faster than it can let water out
we could just close the inlet all together so the outflow is greater than the inflow but then we don't have enough energy getting produced and the infrastructure relying on that energy will fail

if only there was some way to unclog the pipes?? but no, that's impossible

>>76381651
cope, personality is 90% gut flora, chad poop transplant can fix all your problems

You can 100% gain weight at a deficit

Look at these little niggers in africa, they dont even eat and get fat

>>76374665
It's not a static formula though since most of your calories burned are through passive body processes which hormones can slow down, meaning you burn less calorirs.

>>76381672
What people don't tell you is that weight loss takes forever. When I did the only complete bulk/cut cycle of my life (so far), it took me an entire summer to lose just 30 lbs., and that's with a very aggressive calorie limit and with lifting (but not cardio which would have helped way more). In your gf's case it'd probably take an entire year to get from 280 to 200, maybe even longer since her limit is 2000 kcal.

It's why liposuction used to be so popular, people really wanted to lose their pounds only to find out it can take years if you're starting in the 300+ pound range, so they'd have medical intervention to get there in a more bearable amount of time. I think if you told people about how much time diet and exercise take to fix a fat person rather than just presenting diet and exercise as this easy option for when you're no longer feeling like letting yourself be a hamplanet, a lot more people would take avoiding junk food seriously.

>>76381721
that's not fat, that's bloat, carbs do that to you

>>76381651
But how does every meal have the same calorie count? 2 apples, one from spain and one from moldova won't have the same calories/gram..... at best you're guesstimating, take that to the context of whole day you can go down or up 400 kcal

>>76374458
>even to themselves
They lie to themselves most of all.

>>76376887
I want to believe hes in heaven surrounded by beans.

>>76381691
Based laxativemaxxer

>>76375874
>>the only way to get people out of this stadium is to have fewer people enter than exit it
And that's all CICO is. The rest of your greentext is a strawman you made up in your head.

>>76381985
>take that to the context of whole day you can go down or up 400 kcal
it won't be that much of a difference unless you're eating 10000cal every day

>>76381721
SS + GOMAD claims another victim.

>>76381638
that's irrelevant until they can prove it on humans

>>76381638
>If you put heavy stuff in a car and drive it uphill it gets less miles per gallon than the same car driving on a road
>therefore gasoline doesn't exist

>>76382113
>if my cult doesn’t work you’re wrong
Nah

>>76375874
/thread