What's /fit/s consensus on Jeff Nippard and science based lifting in general?

>>76376162 (OP)
>Peak natty with over 10 years of training and consistency
>Gives tons of helpful digestible advice to millions of his aspiring subscribers and viewers
>Trained his brother and made him strong for the sake of science, and to be the biggest bestest bro
>Made a video explaining all the fucked shit roiding entails and its outcomes to educate the uninformed
>Supports BLM
>Supports vaccinations
Yuuuuuuuuuup, I'm thinking BASED.

>>76376313
>Supports BLM
>Supports vaccinations
gigabased

Is there no human adult sized natty out there? Every fitness influencer is a midget or on elephant doses of steroids.

Oh and science is gay. Nippard ran an "experiment" with his brother and made his brother bulk despite the fact that he was already a fat guy trying to lose weight. Absolute retard.

>>76376313
>Supports BLM
You just made that up didn't you

Wtf is even science based lifting

>>76376162 (OP)
Impressive for what he is, but I'm utterly indifferent to the whole bodybuilding culture. Lean and cut > Mass monster

>>76376162 (OP)
When you're a midge on juice anything you do works.

>>76376162 (OP)
Absolute bullshit. Broscience > science, always and unironically and literally.

>>76376162 (OP)
im shocked when i know his weight is 75kg , its literally the same weight as me but i look like skinny bitch, how the fuck he looks so big ????

>>76376414
Because they needed to compare the exact routine between a trained person and an untrained person. If he decided
>My brother needs to cut until he loses 30kg
Then he would need to do the same cut for the "research" to be valid. If not they would be doing two very different routines and there would be no point to comparing them.
Anyways that video is not scientific, an experiment with only two guys is just an anecdote

>>76376421
on /fit/ something to scream about
the rest of the world is running experiments and then listening to those experiments.
>we had 20 athletes do a bicep curl or a preacher curl and this is their strength gain.
Then everyone treats the study as gospel, assumes they match the testing conditions and ignores that some participates didn't see X. Then it becomes a name calling match and shit arguments using personal experiences.

>>76376162 (OP)
>science based lifting
Oh my fauci ouchie!

"Science" based lifting is just dumb faggots claiming they are the science because they can mention the abstract of a paper they googled that often dosnt even support their claim or is severely flawed.

It's extremely fake and gay. Just pick things up and put them down.

>>76376444
because he's a dwarf

>>76376162 (OP)
people shit on him for being a manlet, but I like him more than just about any other fitness YouTuber.

>>76376313
>Supports BLM
>Supports vaccinations
based but unironically

>>76376444
he's 5'5

>>76376422
yep. cut will always be peak aesthetic. fat retard strength is cope for those who can't diet

jeff is a fake natty. he literally admits that he ordered steroids in one of his videos
>>76376448
they could both eat the name number of calories per lean part bodymass and it would be consistent

>>76376313
This guy has to be like 5'4" right. Otherwise there's no way he's natural with those proportions

>>76376745
He's 5'4" and there's still no way.

>>76376745
yeah he's really small. others have mentioned that he's fake natty, idk if that was ever confirmed, but honestly I think it's possible to look like him at his height natty. I'm 5'8, only been training for over a year consistently (off and on since I was a teen) and look extremely bulky

>>76376772
I'm his height and natty and I can't come anywhere close to looking like that. I don't know why everybody thinks I'm just supposed to blow the fuck up. I'm a very small man.

if by science based you mean understanding the basic of biomechanics it's cool, if you mean analyzing a non reproducible double blind peer review study on electrostimulation made on people who don't lift by people who don't either it's really dimwitted

This little shithead has been on steroids since high school powerlifting then he found a grift for his better than natty but not enough balls to get roid big physique and he's fucked over the rest of us ultramanlets because now people think we're supposed to look like fucking comic book characters or we don't lift.

>>76376741
I decided that you're ragebaiting so this is the last (you)

>>76376162 (OP)
When did you realize it was more about marketing than about science? At least it's forcing them under stricter scrutiny, whereas in the past everyone would say different things and if you were a newbie you didn't know who to trust.

76376848
that was my first post itt. watch jeff's own video retard. dude's on gear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLUDYUVnVng&t=190s

>>76376886
I know a bullshitter when I see one. That's a bullshitter.

>>76376834
This.

>>76376902
jeff is a bullshitter glad you admit it

>>76376911
I'm not admitting it. I'm proclaiming it.

>>76376924
sorry thought u were 76376848

>>76376162 (OP)
Science based lifting is trying to grind a few more grams out of 8 pounds of meat. Just go lift. If the science lifters come up with anything useful, it'll trickle into mainstream soon enough.

>>76376908
Now thats science based performance
The science being steroid injections

>>76376453
I agree with you that we should take the studies with a grain of salt. The sample sizes seem to small for me.
However, I believe it can have some value, as far as we don't treat it as gospel, but yet another input next to broscience and our own experience

>>76376162 (OP)
has he ever trained someone successfully?

>>76376162 (OP)
I have no opinions on his advice as such but I do know I find him basically insufferable. His stupid face and haircut and THAT FUCKING VOICE. I really don't like him and I like other manlets like Greg

>>76376162 (OP)
he's annoying and silly sometimes but overhated here

>>76376421
A way to level the playing field between meatheads who half ass shit with shit form and still get big, and normal people.

>>76377133
It doesn't though. He's nowhere near as big as other roiders.

>>76376313
>Roid tranny using science he doesn't understand
>gives overcomplicated advice for midwits and women who love that stuff
>Doesn't understand the McMaster University study which states only "going to failure" stimulates muscle growth and you don't need more

In the Book of Grudges you go little Dawi

>>76376908
This nigga is guilty. Seriously, look at how thick the veins are and how discoloured his muscles are, that's Sam Sulek tier and he's blatantly a roid tranny

>>76376908
ROIDS
STUNTED
HIS
GROWTH

>>76376908
holy shit never seen this before, he's definitely not natty

>>76376941
Meh optimizing programming let alone form actually helped me out on more gains imo. I used to be ohping for 0 delt gains benching for tendon strength and doing rhomboids and traps mostly instead of buikding lats and rear delts. Not that theres anything wrong with incorporating such training/muscle groups but if i wanna get my chest big i dont wanna be doing delt bench.

>>76377285
Doing compound lifts correctly isn't science based lifting. It's been around since way before this grift. I'm glad you found it though because all I've seen from him is the asscreamx formula. Show you a million ways to feel a muscle with a cable stack so you think he knows everything and feel dependent on him.

why do tranny mods delete my thread on a specific jeff video about steroids but leave up this thread?
total mod and janny death

>>76376787
idk man maybe it's genetic too. never done steroids or any PED in my life and I'm really wide for 5'8

>>76377547
Roiding runs in his family, yes.

>>76377547
see this before saying something that retarded >>76376313

>>76377808
I mean this >>76376908

>>76377813
is that actually him? in that case I stand corrected

>>76377841
Yes, that's what I'm saying. It's so clear that roids it's not even subtle. This is Sam Sulek tier

>>76377883
yeah, that's outrageous and blatant.

>>76376908
0% chance this is natty, there is literally nothing nobody could ever say to convince me otherwise. also he has the chudface here

>>76376162 (OP)
Love this guy. I was a newbie lifter (still am) and was spiraling into the analysis paralysis trap of wanting to lift, but not know what to do. I trusted Jeff's credentials so I pirated his latest program, the Bodybuilding Transformation System. It's laid out super clearly, video examples for everything, and I can see the changes to my physique already after about 2 months. Thanks, Jeff, I'll actually pay for your next program, I promise.

>>76377944
buy an ad jeff you faggot roider
https://youtu.be/kLUDYUVnVng?si=J_JexMWS0B7HhP2G&t=198

>>76376417
>You just made that up didn't you
Nope. Some people here were seething about this, so I added it for them.
[spoiler]Reminder guys that BLM isn't an "organization", even if some assholes somehow grifted off it. It's a movement, a mantra, a plea for basic humanity.[/spoiler]

>natty or not convo
I wonder if he uploads periodic bloodwork anywhere

>>76376417
>You just made that up didn't you
Nope. Some people here were seething about this, so I added that for them.
[spoiler]Reminder guys that BLM isn't an "organization", even if some assholes somehow grifted off it. It's a movement, a mantra, a plea for basic humanity.[/spoiler]

>natty or not convo
I wonder if he uploads periodic bloodwork anywhere

>>76376908
>chud takes seteroids

>>76376908
He used to look 15 years older than he does now

>>76377981
>evidence based framework for understanding systemic racism

good little goy, now shake for me, shake

>>76376908
I don't understand the amount of replies to this post with the roids accusations. Why?
The boulder shoulders? I don't understand and don't see any other signs.

>>76378307
did you read the posts? those anons mentioned things they themselves are taking note of lmao

>>76378307
Everyone bigger than me is injecting exogenous hormones to boost their testosterone to supraphysiological levels, simpke as.

>>76378307
>https://youtu.be/kLUDYUVnVng?si=J_JexMWS0B7HhP2G&t=198

>>76376162 (OP)
This dudes videos are helpful but not the end all be all. Also holy fuck add some goddamn timestamps or some shit when discussing tiers of different lifts damn

>>76376162 (OP)
His a manlet and a closeted juicer

He's both on roids and has a subpar physique.
Pathetic

>>76376908
People just don't understand what 20 years of consistency will get you. A top tier physique at 17 years old.

>>76377025
>I believe it can have some value
see your "some value" and I will raise you to good value
I think it is an excellent way to explore workouts and planning.

Since this is 4chan and words get weird here --> I agree with you.

>>76376908
>roiding for a sub 200kg sumo deadlift

Too many people take everything he says as gospel, or they hate him so they take everything he says as completely false.

Nippard offers good content for people getting into fitness as most of his guidance benefits unfit people getting started with correct form, how to start getting mind/muscle connection and other basics that anyone with 12 months in the gym knows.

>>76376162 (OP)
Jeff Nippard is relentlessly relentlessly handsome and cute.

>>76377025
>>76379564
There is nothing of value in them. They all contradict each other because none of them mean anything. If you watched the whole process you'd be like what the fuck are these idiots doing.

>>76376162 (OP)
hes a fag

>>76376162 (OP)
In all senses watching it, learning it, doing it ect it is not worth your time compared to more conventional or minimalist routines.

>>76379622
>Nippard offers good content for people getting into fitness
he just released a vid of him defending fake nattys, there's literally no more effective way of damaging a new lifters view of the industry
he's a garbage human being

>>76376162 (OP)
The only reason he is so popular cus he’s cute. I want to strangle him cutely

>>76378307
>I don't understand the amount of replies to this post with the roids accusations. Why?
Because you're a newfag DYEL.
LURK MOAR

>>76380545
Seethe sticklike TRANNY

His videos are fun, he reads studies and summarizes them. No idea why /fit/ hates him. Can't stand Dr. Mike though, guy sounds like a tool

>>76381264
>No idea why /fit/ hates him.
because he lies about not having used steroids and defends other fake nattys. pretty valid reasons if you ask me

>>76377981
>[spoiler]
NEWFAG ALERT! NEWFAG ALERT! THERE IS A NEWFAG IN THE BASE!

>>76381264
read the articles yourself you dopamine fried zoomie.
MacMaster University studies are surprisingly left out by this midwit, including
>Weight doesn't matter, only training to failure does

All these useless faggots shill multi-set programs when the actual science with research behind it shows Mentzer was right; train hard, brief and infrequent

>>76381301
>Defends other fake natties
When did that happen? You mean his recent video? Yeah, that was pretty boring, couldn't finish it.
>>76381425
>Mentzerfag is ill-mannered
When you speak properly, and stop with the tantrums. I'll take your posts seriously

>>76376162 (OP)
this man uses steroids, that's the science

>>76376162 (OP)
>What's /fit/s consensus on Jeff Nippard
Roider who hopped on the "I'm natural and always have been, buy my products to look exactly like me" shit.
>>76376908 is him at 19 years old. Does that look like the body of a teenager who's natural?
Both his parents are bodybuilders in the 80s and are both taller then him. Implying he always had better access to drugs and had stunted growth because of him taking roids in puberty.
Also has endorsed guys as natural but who then later were outed for taking roids.

>>76382236
smart guy for milking the idiots who believed it, well deserved

>>76382236
his brother is the same height, and he didn't roid or train, so its just genetics

>>76381662
read MacMaster University study you multi-set simping CrossFit faggot wasting his time in a smelly gym filled with ethots and roid trannies.
>I gotta lift really heavy and kill my joints with multiple sets
>I gotta gO To tHe GyM 7 dAys a WeEk

>source
https://studyfinds.org/any-amount-weightlifting-muscle/

>>76376162 (OP)
My God I'd SNIIIIIIIF those pits. I legit don't even care that he's a manlet

>>76376745
5'3 at the absolute best, with thick sole running shoes on.

sulek gives kino advice from the soul

>>76376162 (OP)
Faggot Canadian leftist

>>76376162 (OP)
he's what? 4'5"? his advice is only helpful if you plan on grabbing a pickaxe and making a diggy hole

>>76376313
Did you really have to add the b8 at the end? You were already going to get (you)s