Thread 76377144

They all talk about "your muscles are just for show, you wouldn't last a day on a worksite." Every time I have seen a construction site it's always 4+ guys standing around watching while one guy does something, usually using machinery/equipment. Where is the backbreaking labor they talk about? Landscaping seems a lot more physically taxing, but people who do that aren't usually aren't so self-aggrandizing about it.

i think it is weird and unfair how people who do physically demanding jobs don't typically get any benefit from it physique wise. Its really only guys who cut down trees who get jacked from their labor.

you train to look like you do masculine stuff and reap the benefits
they do masculine stuff and end up with busted backs
no wonder they're bitter

>>76377144 (OP)
Why would I ever want to want to “last a day on a worksite?”

>>76377144 (OP)
Post work boots

>>76377171
Seems like their own fault.

because they're fat, also modern construction work is mostly a joke
but if someone actually does hard physical labor all day for years and he'd cut
he'd look good

I got in shape doing construction. Not all construction jobs are equal. A hard working lanscape or concrete worker is probably going to have strong arms, back, shoulders. Sometimes legs.

>>76377190
What should they do for work instead? Serious question as I want to change careers.

>>76377144 (OP)
They most likely aren't talkin about strength or endurance. They are just saying you are a child who couldn't handle a long day at work at a construction site cause of how shitty it is.
They are basically trying to tell you how shitty their work is and how much they can handle.

>>76377202
>my job sucks more than yours
Pretty gay thing to brag about.

>>76377201
>What should they do for work instead?
Currently its anything in tech. Job market is looking good according to bls despite what all the underperforming graduates and recently laid off employee says.
You can usually find a wfh position, if not at least a hybrid one, with salaries starting at around 85k for someone who just got their degree.
And no, AI isn't going to replace anything. You have never worked with AI if you actually believe it can replace any tech worker at the moment.

>>76377209
Yea its what miserable people do. If they can't brag about how comfy their life is, they go to bragging about how shitty it is as a form of being more masculine. Its like how poor people think rich adults don't know what hard work is.

Because they're morons. They think some techbro zoomer wearing a Carhartt beanie is equivalent to stolen valor lmao.

>>76377222
They do nothing but bitch and moan about it. But if someone else points out how shitty their job is all of a sudden a switch flips and they need to prove that construction is actually the best job in the world. It's bizarre.

Blue collar workers that brag about how 'tough' their work is are fucking stupid niggers. The only reason they do it is because they fell into it and probably have criminal records too.

If I can (and I do) make more money than them sitting around then lifting with my unbroken body, why wouldn't I? They're just as insufferable as military veterans who think they sacrificed anything forgetting they volunteered to join.

>>76377277
what's your job

>>76377277
What's a sacrifice if it isn't voluntarily?

>>76377218
Mate all the tech jobs are going to jeets

>>76377144 (OP)
>>76377202
>>76377209
>>76377222
>>76377253
Normies (both male and female and all walks of life) care bigly about trying to jockey for status.

It's an adaptation from back when ostracism from a village was a literal death sentence. And evolved into more-recent conditions. They see almost everything as transactional. Being authentic is scary to them because it means they might lose out on an opportunity to suck a psychopath's dick for a leg up in life or might piss off some BPD retard who then proceeds to stop doing favors for them.
This is really why actually doing what you want bothers them, because they think you're a retard who is going to piss off someone with both a fragile ego and power, and they don't want to be associated with you in case of collateral damage. They may see you as entertaining from afar but they get scared.

However, normies are struggling to grapple with the fact that local social structures now compete with online ones, alongside tech advances. So things that were "respectable" in the past now get you very little in terms of status. They're still important and can make good money, but the social validation has been removed. And there is now the ability to gain a support network which respects things that used to be looked down on, via the internet.
This has created a simmering resentment in your average person who is primarily motivated via social validation, as they mistakenly assume it's a path to resources and stability. But its also gotten to the point where the people who can manipulate normies have gotten very good at it. So they are very careful to just string such people along individually, or exploit this en masse for profit. Garbage food, pill pushing, and it's part of the explosion in what items are seen as luxury/limited edition/insufficiently-produced veblen goods, which has in turn created a big market for scalping.

Total Normie Death. The winning move is to not play their games.

>>76377457
Spoken like someone who doesn't work in tech. Our company just laid off an entire company from india because of how poor they have been performing for the last 2 years.
I would assume most companies will have to catch on as well, you can't outsource these type of work to india and expect to not only hit the deadlines but also be given high quality products.

your muscles are stolen valor, libtard

>>76377144 (OP)
It's called inferiority complex. I mean, they're mostly mules doing their superiors' (architects) bidding, so they do that to feel like they are more important than they really are.

>>76377218
>desk job

Fuck no. That shit already wrecked my back by 26.

>>76377673
Literally only dyels would get a fucked up back doing a desk job. Even the dyels who get like this are smart enough to get a standing desk

>>76377538
Well said

>>76377704
Cart before the horse mentality: being immobile for 8 hours a day is how you become a dyel and offsetting that level of inactivity with a few gym visits a week is a drop in the bucket. Standing desks mitigate the issue but only to a point.

>>76377704
About one-third of office workers report experiencing low back pain within a 12-month period:

In a large cross-sectional survey of U.S. office employees, 34% reported low back symptoms in the previous year, while 28% reported upper back issues .

A systematic review found that 31%–51% of office workers report low back pain annually .

Another study using broader musculoskeletal questionnaires showed about 51% of office workers reported general backache in the past year .


Additionally, neck and upper back pain are also prevalent:

One-year prevalence rates ranged from 42% to 69% for neck pain and 31% to 51% for low back pain .
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Summary

Region 12‑Month Prevalence

Low Back ~31–51%
Upper Back ~28–51%
Neck ~42–69%


This data shows that around half of office workers experience some form of back pain each year, with low back pain affecting roughly one in three and neck pain often even more common.

Would you like insights into risk factors, ergonomic setup tips, or strategies to alleviate workplace back pain?

>>76377750
Well ive been a student and a tech worker for my whole life and I still have yet go to snap city just for sitting. Again, how much of a dyel do you have to be to go to snap city for literally just sitting?

>>76377759
>office workers who don't live an active lifestyle and have poor posture has resulted in physical detriments and possibly also general health issues
Oh wow, its almost like exercise does something. Again, dyels being dyels

>>76377144 (OP)
>you wouldn't last a day on a worksite
Neither do they LOL, they all turn to alcohol and drugs because they can't handle the stress. Shouldn't have dropped out of school!

>>76377767
It‘s abnormal to respond to two posts detailing sedentary work environments as a degenerative factor by honing in on a forced misinterpretation that anybody ever said it it was the immediate cause of injury.

>>76377144 (OP)
I worked in hvac for a bit and trade guys in general have ego issues. Anger issues because of things going on in their life is pretty common so they find ways to take out their pent up anger.
At my company one guy got so angry once he literally whacked some 25 year old on the back of the head with a wrench because he was standing around too much for his liking.

>>76377818
Answer the question. How dyel are you to have gone to snap city just for sitting?

>>76377759
>chatgpt

>>76377198
I got cut when I was a plumbing apprentice, mostly because I barely had time to eat and only ate the bare essentials, egg and cheese sandwiches.

>>76377767
>if you take care of your body, that will offset the negative aspects of your job
I agree completely. Never had any back problems doing construction. The studies show both construction work and office work is bad for your back generally speaking.

>>76377201
Not him, but I think what he's getting at is that if the manual laborers choose not to do resistance training on the side, they're more likely to get injuries and that's their fault.
I recently had a coworker tear a rotator cuff while lowering something that I don't think is very heavy. Joints and connective tissues become stronger with training. That injury was preventable.

>>76377253
It's literally what Nietzsche calls a slave mentality. They don't have the mental fortitude to accept or fix their issue, so by complaining about it, they see it as a victory. When in reality, that energy used bitching about it could have been used to free them out of the the situation. I'll never forget when I was an electrical apprentice, and my "master" electrician would complain that our boss is an asshole and he's quitting today. He never did and would say this at least once a month, when I found out this company was retarded, first thing I did was find work elsewhere.

>>76377927
nta this also applies to shit like bicycling and even fucking lifting. Most people just jump into doing shit without paying attention to form/ergonomics at all and then they suffer for it to the point that having shitty knees and back is just an assumed "30+ thing" and not "wow this is the age where accumulated damage starts to produce noticeable effects."

There are large amounts of people who believe that lifting to the point of hypertrophy destroys your joints as a given, it's retarded.

>>76377201
Bookkeeping is easy to get into and people are generally shit at it. You can go into accountancy or financial controller positions from there on out.

>>76377218
Tech is shit to get into and will likely be even shittier in 2030 when anon gets his degree. Too much people flooded CS partially due to people saying "durr duurr learn programming!"

>>76377570
Sometimes I toy with linkedin recruiters and say how they should give someone from India a chance. They take that as a bigger insult than actually insulting them lmao.

it's mostly spics lol!

>>76378043
>Too much people flooded CS
Even so, the amount of technology needed run a company isn't going to go down. Use of technology is always increasing.
Also the quality of CS grads are extremely low, most students only list their courses they took with 0 internships and 0 projects shown in their public repo. Don't listen to the majority who can't find jobs, these are the people who didnt even do the bare minimum to land a job.

>>76378061
Yea, the US has gone through the phase of outsourcing work and most people would agree it gives very bad outcomes most of the time.

>>76377892
Bet you dug a lot of trenches

>>76378019
Endurance and calisthenics hurts my joints more because of the repitition

>>76377144 (OP)
>>76378005
Is it worth becoming an electrician to build AI data centers?

>>76378153
skilled trade work is always needed throughout life

It's the same people that claim they have a 'real' job compared to others.

>>76377144 (OP)
I would say it's an inferiority complex

>>76377198
I install industrial gates for a living and ngl concrete dudes have massive forearms and shoulders. There was this 8-10 guy crew and they all mogged me, 2 of them were noticeably bloatloards but goddamn they looked solid as fuck and probably many times stronger than your average desk jockey.

Ironworks dudes look fit but much thinner, same goes for scaffolders. Sparkies and HVAC could pass for office drones physique wise.
Brickboyos look rough as shit and always have a fag in their mouth or hand.

>>76377144 (OP)
I lift and am a construction fag. I'm usually one of the 4 guys standing around.

>>76378218
how long do you see yourself in this career? I had a friend that worked construction and he thought this would be his life. I think a year later he went back into school for some other job

>>76377277
Get more money for less work is obviously better but I'll have to say that it's pretty satisfying helping to build something and seeing it go up as days go buy.
Been working on this huge distribution center and looking back maybe 5 months to now the results are gratifying. And if we're being honest there are office jobs that literally have no reason existing other than giving a payday to shlomos cousin.

>>76378191
Ha you aint lyin

>>76378228
>it's pretty satisfying helping to build something
build quality is down the toilet, you are all incompetent, get fucked fag.

>>76378224
I've been in the trades for 4 years now. I'm the inverse of your friend. got a degree and realized being an office slave just wasn't for me. There's positives and negatives to everything but I think I can deal with the negatives in this field pretty well so I'd imagine I'll be in it a good while.

>>76378234
When was the last time u bought lumber at home depot?

I've worked some construction and obviously they mog me because they can bang a nail for times and be done with it while I have to hit it like 15 times and possibly screw up in the process before it's done.
but when it comes to grabbing and moving shit around I'm always the highest performer. sure they know how to grab a sack of cement with a back breaking technique, but they do it 10 times and have to wipe the sweat in their brow and chit chat a little bit and smoke a cigarette or whatver, while I can be at it all afternoon
gym technique definitely mogs these guys because imagine deafliting 25 kg. it's nothing. you could do it 100 times in a row easily. ohping a beam that weights 30 kg is nothing when you're ohping a plate for reps. it's only the shit that takes years of experience that they really excel at, like banging nails with precission

>>76378248
Why does everyone at home depot look like wes watson clones and andrew tate clones?

>>76378240
>I'm the inverse of your friend
Pretty funny how this works. Ive seen many people go to school for a job they thought they wanted but then do a career change only a few years into the job.

>>76378248
>muh material quality
you can't put them together properly so it doesn't really matter anyways.

>>76378153
>Is it worth becoming an electrician
No
>to build AI data centers?
most definitely, long as the money train is moving. I would also recommend get into boiler tech but move to chillers since data centers need cooling.

>>76378266
I havent meet too many other people with a similar story but I'd believe it. turns out getting schooled on something and actually doing it day in day out are very different experiences.

>>76377457
jeets are fucking retarded as shit and can only code in stupid fucking child languages. trust me, these dense motherfuckers are worthless. if you can master a difficult and important language like c89 and not fuck everything up like some retarded brownoid you can find a job just fine. demoralizing people by saying "its all jeets" and "they wont hire white people" is admitting defeat before you even try.

>>76378132
Ironically, no. I did have to lift and cut black pipe though. Since I lifted before the job, they used me as a pack mule.