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How we doing boys? Summers going awesome; what are ya'll running?
read leddit r/steroids wiki before you tell us about your 250mg test and sarm cycle and how you are a hyper-responder
Fuck trtfags, sarm niggers and low test cycle zoom zooms
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trt-dose chads will inherit the earth
Anyone have experience with intranasal peptides? Or DSIP in particular?
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>>76389762 (OP)does anyone have any pictures of Dasha?
>>76390351How did it make you feel? I need good sleep on the weekends. I fight MMA and my mind races before bed uncontrollably. Melatonin on works to a small extent before I feel tired next day. DSIP intranasal should help?
>>76390220i dont see anything wrong with trtfags as long as they know its not as cool as roiding. what the fuck else is a guy supposed to do, not take his trt?
>>76390607>trtfags aren't so bad>"my test is 300, how do I convince my doctor to put me on trt">"i want a medical professional to supervise my 50mg a week test injection"x30 every thread
They need the most spoon feeding and will never google the simplest shit
Fuck them
It seems like every long term issue with roids comes down to just keeping good bloodwork and low inflammation - if I can do that then why should I not just add 50mg Deca to my TRT forever once I'm in my 40s?
>>76390758There's plenty of proper roiderfags that ask cookie cutter spoonfeed me questions too dude
"does x work"
"what does x feel like"
"im doing x simple ass cycle, what can i expect?"
the fact of the matter is all of the relevant info to answer any gear based question is already available online. people come here because they want to talk, banter, and bullshit around while sharing anecdotes and advice. sure, someone who asks the simplest shit like last thread the dude who literally was asking how to inject, deserves to get shit on. but ultimately this is a place for retarded ass questions and fucking around. don't try to run a peruvian bobsledding forum like the navy. this place used to be more fun when the oldfags were around.
>>76390758>>76391320My only issue with trtfags is the is the
>muh test is best memeIt's the shittiest compound with the most side effects and the higher you run it, the more it can effect 19 nors sides as well. Every compound shits on it, except for primo and eq kek.
>>76391621I'd say many orals are much shittier than test, but I do agree that test isn't the "best" compound. It is the simplest and most brainless though. I think if you've done your first cycle (which should be 500 test) and refuse to do anything other than test or orals, you are probably a pussy. As long as you can admit you are a pussy and don't want crazy gains, it's whatever.
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>>76391621by that logic, we shouldn't use anything weaker or similar to test.
tren and ment only. milk the titties
>>76391688You're being obtuse purposely. Test is a base, thats it.
>mentAbsolute dogshit.
Yea, no, I'm not interested in looking like a juiced up mass of muscular cysts about to explode. Trt is medicine, not a drug to abuse on yourself like you're trying to create a human-gorilla hybrid.
>>76391674Bro dont do it. Just stick with regular anabolics and dont grow your organs like a retard
I've been on keto for a while now and got some Clen off a buddy yesterday, going to start doing Clen 20mg for 3 weeks then start doing 40.
Is it fine to do Keto on Clen? It's my first time trying Clen.
so how hard can you cut on clen? is a 1500kcal defict possible? how much muscle will i lose?
>>76391838I'm on TRT because my natural test production is fucked. It's supervised and I do 200mg/week
Hate the bad rep that TRT gets because some meatheads blast it
Oh well, I guess it means I'll never be "natty" and should just start blasting so I can get a bubble gut and bitch tits like everyone else.
>>76391621god i wanna empty my nuts in her
>>76392801This is why trtfags need to fuck off
Car crash of a post, absolutely embarrassing
>>76392801Nobody cares trtnigger.
Do you take anything for your prostate?
Do prostate supplements just work by decreasing DHT?
Can I inject mt2 in the same syringe as test?
does insulin doping make you grow large obliques?
I never post in here
If I do a roid cycle do I have to keep it up forever to avoid losing the gains? Or can I just do a lone 12 week cycle or however long just for a one time gains boost?
t. bench refuses to improve and I'm getting upset
>>76394142For athletes like you, you're better off with Turkesterone use code Greg
>>76394142Your bench will just drop afterwards what's the point
It's best to blast and cruise not cycle if you care about keeping the gains
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you ever read/watch something made by someone who seems knowledgeable and go like "hmm interesting, yeah that makes sense" and then that someone suddenly talks about something you know very well and gets everything wrong? and then you realize "wait, if he's this wrong about what I know, what about the rest?"
that's dr mike for me whenever he makes a video about things related to steroids/PEDs
(this is a video about mk677)
>>76394010have you ever used either?
>>76394142You gradually return to natty genetic limit if you properly maintain with diet and routine
Actually slightly higher because steroids permanently change muscle cells mitochondria or something like that causing roiders to forever be better if only by a small amount
Nattycucks will seethe about both of those
>>76394442Pretty much, the only guys retaining alot of built mass are GH users who blast 20iu a day.
Roided women are disgusting.
>>76389762 (OP)I’m 22, work a physical job and lift. I want to roid, but I don’t want sides and I definitely don’t want to bald. Balding is my #1 fear.
>>76394549Thanks for sharing
>>76394561You’re welcome :)
>>76394442Why does she look like a high elf from oblivion?
thoughts on dr tony huge?
>>76392801>200mg weekkill youself at this point roidtranny
>>76393634>Do you take anything for your prostate?Saw Palmetto to try and keep things good
Ciallis and Zinc when prostate blows up, feels like a softball and hurts like hell to piss or cum
>Do prostate supplements just work by decreasing DHT?Yeah, pretty sure with Saw Palmetto. Poor man's fina
>>76392801>200mg/wk TRT>”TRT”Why lie on the internet? That is roughly double the amount of testosterone produced naturally per week, maybe more. That’s a weak blast you tard.
>>76397094Depends on the person. If you're a weak responder you may stay in the reference range.
>>76397077What if you want both high DHT but no prostate issues
>>76398118where do you inject mt2 and how much at a time? where do you inject test and how much at a time?
>>76397094>>76396477>>76393200>>76392829>hurrdurr I know better than my urologist how much test I should takeLiterally kill yourself.
>>76398512DHT doesn't give you prostate issues
It actually shrinks it
>>76392525What thought process causes you to even consider asking these shit retarded questions?
What possible negative affects do you think might occur if you took clen while on keto?
Be specific and explain your reasoning.
>>76392758another dipshit typing out whatever gibberish enters his brain without giving it the least bit of thought on his own
>>76394322Is he right about perma-gains after stopping?
How easy is it to do that pinch test for gyno? I mean if the lump bigger than it's supposed to be you should easy be able to find it right? The doc I watched talking said it shouldn't be larger than a large pea, but I can't even find any kind of lump which makes me think I'm being a retard and not checking properly.
>>76398988>needing someone to hand hold you with the scary chemicalsYou are retarded faggot and should seek medical attention for that as well
How are those on primo doing? The biggest online site is completely sold out, yet the second biggest seems to have a good supply despite the same manufacturers. Are they just faking it? Anyone who can vouch for the -ify site?
dick "ejaculates" (not really) before i get fully hard and i don't feel physically satisfied when i cum
is this low E2 or something else?
>>76399623primocel here, I switched to horse semen eq and npp
>>76394142if you ascend past whatever you natural genetic limit is, then you will slowly go back to that line unless you keep juicing.
if you aren't at that limit yet, it will get you there much faster than natty. prolonged use can certainly extend the natural limit you can maintain at without gear.
>>76389762 (OP)I want to go on an anavar only cycle and I want someone to validate my decision. I've never felt great on testosterone for more than 2 weeks. It makes me feel greasy, bloaty, and hungry as fuck. Aromasin sorta keeps it at bay but sheds my hair more than I'm comfortable with. On the other hand, I respond super well to anavar and it helps suppress my appetite (former fatty).
I'm thinking of running 20mg var for 6 weeks w/o a test base while dosing 10mg nolvadex after the 2nd week to prevent complete shutdown. I hover around ~600 ng/dl off gear and if I can at least avoid going under 250ng/dl by the end of my cycle, that's good enough for me. I also don't experience sides from SERMs that much which is a big help.
>>76399935Just take lest test bro
>>76391621>guy who never was low test shits on testIf you're low test just taking test would benefit you as much if not more as heavy roid cycle for average person.
>>76399249>tfw mine unironically looks like sausage on the left
>>76398558Subq into stomach fat, usual dose is around 250mg daily (once tanned then once or twice weekly to maintain), but it’s better to start lower (like 50mg) and titrate because there is allergic reaction (rash, nausea, feeling cold etc.) to it before you get used to it.
Optionally you can do nasal spray. But it takes more mt2 for the same effect, it has only around 50-60% absorbtion rate compared to subq.
Is $180 for 100iu HGH normal price? Is it true I can use low dose hgh for joint health with like 0 side effects?
>>76399710My blood is already like 5w-50 and my E2 is perfect finally so no horse shit. I also don’t want deca dick. I’m about to just make this shit in my bathtub.
>>76400070Nope that’s literally like 200x the price. Assuming you forgot a couple zeros, still pretty high. I just got 2 bottles of 10k for like 80 cause of the July 4 promotion and the shipper fkng up (supposed to be 5k bottles)
>>76399935You’re a retard. Any gains from Anavar will be offset by being shutdown/suppressed. 6 weeks at that dose will do nothing for you anyway. And if you thought high E2 felt bad, wait til it crashes from having no rest.
>dosing 10mg nolvadex…prevent complete shutdown You’re quite literally a super retard. Do yourself a favor and gtfoh before you fk yourself up.
>>76400497>Nope that’s literally like 200x the price. Assuming you forgot a couple zeros,No it's literally $180 for 100, not 1000 or 10000. God good thing I asked I would get absolutely scammed.
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Anyone use the mitochondrial uncoupler BAM 15? Apparently it's supposed to shred fat like DNP but without the horrific side effects. The Nature article is very promising but not a lot of people online talking about it.
I been getting a lot of anxiety on 500mg test now, felt great initially albeit watery. I don't know if its because of the AI or what my estrogen levels are slghtly high but not too much.
>>76400530Nvm I’m a retard. I read that as HCG. That’s actually a pretty decent price
>>76399623I have one last vial and I'm switching to Masteron after that desu
>>76401061you need Turkesterone
>>76401305i'm looking for actual insights not memes
>>76399635dull orgasms are typically low e2, yes, but a lot of symptoms overlap between the two tbqh. what's your AI protocol and test (and other aromatizing compounds) dosage? probably easier to tell that way
>>76401592i'm on pct waiting for my balls to start working again
>>76401599well there's not much you can do even if you know what the issue is, lol
>>76401612thanks, was mostly just curious
my symptoms seem to align more with low E other than the testicles
Does anyone else get like zero RBC increase from Test, I’ve been on 250mg/wk since like February and gotten bloods three times same hematocrit throughout, so I’ve added 25 mg prop to the cyp, thinking I have plenty of room to add some EQ or Mast maybe cuz my bloods and BP are perfect
>>76400568Could be either but more likely massive cortisol spikes from having your serum levels 1500+ you get used to it, also ashwaganda l-thienine
Advice on taking test gel to mildly boost my taste and stay within a 'natural' level?Been lifting for years and currently 86.5kg, had my test checked at 26 (now 30) and it was 340ng/dl, granted I was on Nightshift at the time, but still, I had been working out and eating well for years, so surely it's only lower now, too?
I just want to get up to 750ng/dl or something around that mark, any advice?
>>76401967>trtniggers on damage control what about you lift weights first and lose fat? you fatfuck
>>76401881Consider yourself lucky, mine goes into orbit with anything above a trt dose. Hemoglobin too.
>>76402002I'm not that fat, and I've been pretty lean in the past, around the time I did my test and it was still low like I said.
I've lifted weights for years, done sports like rugby, MMA, and boxing, sea swimming and cycling, so why so low?
All I'm suggesting is just from hrt-esque doses, has anyone else tried?
>Pic relatedMe when I was 71 and 76kg's.
>>76402069Is not necessarily a big issue, not as big as people generally make it out to be at least.
>>76399623I have ~40 vials of primo 200 from reliable sources that I bought before the Chinese government started cracking down on manufacturers. So I’m doing fine. I also have been buying through a private telegram group that does group buys and independent testing for mast, test and dhb but they can’t get primo anymore. My full stash is like ~130 vials of test in various esters, 25 npp, 30 eq, 40 primo, 20 mast p, 20 mast e, 10 tren a, 20 dhb and 8000 iu gh plus various peptides and orals. I can run cycles for the next 10 years if I have to.
>>76400497Dude is asking about hgh not hcg
>>76400070$180 for 100 iu is in the average realm for gh but you can get it for about half that price with little effort. Check out meso and eroids for something more reasonable.
>>76402132>roiding for thislmao
>>76391277just do it. no reason not to. i think more people do 100mg/week on cruise even
>>76397294me :( 400mg put me at 1500ng/dl. fml
>>76402444address? ill send you more and not rob you
>>76402543What do you roid for?
>>76402793600 Army Navy Dr, Arlington, VA 22202
Can’t wait for my goodies
small testicles general
heart attack at 50 general
gay faggot general
>>76402543I haven't started yet, that's why I am asking you fucking pleb.
>tracking number sent 2 weeks after they confirmed my payment
>tracking stuck on "item at shippers warehouse" for a week now
Can I just have some roids...
>>76404660unless this is for raws from china, there's a 95% chance you got scammed
Can mct oil and gso go through a 28g? 27g easy touch have fucking disappeared. Those were my go to cruise needles.
>>76404926Nah they're listed as official resellers in multiple sources websites and got like 90 pages in meso.
They said they had a problem with the manufacturer so they probably ran out of stock and are dropshipping or something lmao
>>76405105I pull room temp MCT into a 29g every morning without issue. Just depends on how much you are pulling and how long you want to wait. Takes me like 10 seconds per 10 units.
>>76405105very easily. mct will go pretty fast, gso little less
>>76403043Alright, I'm waiting for you at the UPS store at Fern and 14th. Hurry down and we can get a slice at extreme pizza.
>>76394322Is any of the stuff he says in this video true? I confess I got caught up in the hype he was selling when I watched it, but the two things I struggle with the most are my dead appetite and my horrible sleeping habits. Is MK677 useful at all in that context? Is it going to give me brain cancer or some shit?
>>76405865mk677 WILL make you ravenously hungry. the effect on sleep is iffy at best.
it doesn't have any massive sides like that, no. it just doesn't really do anything ped-related very well
>>76405898Hey, that's good enough for me. I just need to be able to look at food without wanting to throw up
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Can you ped using only ghg and other things without test? I think something like a tennis player does.
I have an athletic build with definition but not volume. I dont want to be big, just keep this type of build as long as possible. I believe at around 35 it becomes harder to keep lean. Also io worry about delts, since old, strong man tend to keep good pecs but the delts just fade away.
So i can do low dosage ghg or something like that to keep athletic for longer?
>no test
The problem with test is prematurely ageing the face. So, since i dont plan to get big and bulkier, do i still need to supplement test?
>>76405932>guman hrowth gormoneUnless you're the most beautiful boy in the world, a super-responding genetic freak, or you plan to blast dbol out the gate, it probably won't hit your face. Plenty of people do just use HGH, though.
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>>76403078Absolutely seething, stay mad nigger
>>76405968>responding to bait
>>76405932Not really for maintaining athleticism. High dose hgh won't do anything special without peds and low dose won't do much more than tighten your skin and recover from injuries.
If you want to help your skin, take like 3iu a day. Take a couple month long breaks a year so you don't get diabetes. There's other peptides too for skin, but I've never tried them so I can't speak to them.
>do I need to supplement testIf an endo didn't tell you that you have a medical problem, you don't need test. I take test because I want test.
>>76406013Oral peptides you mean? Because i was looking for a face cream with peptides.
>low dose won't do much more than tighten your skinThis is a good point to me, since i use a retinol cream for that.
Can i go to an endo an ask for this low dose ghg for anti aging?
>>76405959Do you think test levels matter in my case that i dont plan to grow and just stay lean and muscular? Like, as long my test is above 500 does it matter?
Any old annons here that can tell me if i need PEDs to keep abs and delts after 35?
>>76400070i paid 100 for 240. it also exists for cheaper
>>76405176Same. Room temp mct in 31g slin pin just fine
>>76406102can you.... would you please tell us what ghg stands for? like.... what is it an acronym of? 'cause other anon is talking human growth hormone (hgh), and you inject that every day, or even twice a day depending on who you believe
>>76406013Is the nonsense about "gh increases lean mass without increasing fat mass" false then?
>>76406157ghg im talking is human growth hormone
>>76406225anon you're so close to a breakthrough and I just want you to know I believe in you
maybe not enough to say you should trust yourself with PEDs though
>>76390220im about to do 600mg test e 400 mast e 400 tren e
>>76406398good luck, don't die
>>76394681The altmer wouldn't let their women balloon themselves into this kind of grotesque parody of womanhood.
>>76406406Get your test levels checked
>>76405176>>76405201Thanks. Probably just go with the 28s.
>>76406159>Is the nonsense about "gh increases lean mass without increasing fat mass" false then?How would you prove it? You'd still have to eat clean and lift weights. which also adds muscle without adding fat. Taking any amount of GH by itself won't do much above that.
Like a lot of misguided slogans, it is woven from complex truths. HGH will help preserve muscle when you are in a calorie deficit. That's why it's part of every cut stack. In large doses it will also greatly increase your CAPACITY to put on muscle. To fully realize that capacity you need to do above-natty output.
It is also remarkable at healing minor damage. So it does grow muscle in that sense.
>>76406398y no eq? hgh? slin? pump those numbers up!
>>76406415have some fucking fun with me anon goddamn
>>76406778>How would you prove it?I suppose by giving a bunch of people GH, having them do nothing, then seeing if they have more lean mass
>Taking any amount of GH by itself won't do much above that.Ah, okay.
I was mostly asking since I was looking into MK677 earlier.
What are the high prolactin symptoms? Is there such a thing as too prolactin if you take too much caber similar to e2 crashing if you take too much AI?
Want to try Deca, thinking only 300mg and only P5P to start with but will keep Caber in hand if I need it.
>>76406406She's clearly lifting and roiding to satisfy big nord cock
>>76407065zero prolactin side effects in men include no refractory period, so you can pretty much just fuck all day. too high prolactin in men means you're gonna leak milk from your new titties. caber also can fuck with your eyes. p5p works for some, but not all, and only as a preventative
>can't sleep
>feel like shit
>suspicious of others
>on edge
>can barely think straight
>constant brain fog
>compulsively jacking off and watching porn
>ruin my relationships with the people I love
>constantly greasy
>lose the hair on my head
>get a bunch of new hair on by back and shoulders
>get acne and scarring all over my torso
>have outbursts at work
>resting hr >100 BPM
>lose my breath if I have a long conversation
>intermittent cheat pain
>GERD
>lose my appetite
>constantly need to pee due to enlarged prostate
>sweating constantly
>looking fucking awesome
so worth it brothers
>>76407376How much of this goes away once you stop?
>>76407542All permanent
What no one tells you is 95% of roiders are lactating right now
Why aren't sources carrying Test C or E right now? All I can find is prop, phenylprop, and iso.
Also, anyone have experience using Test Iso? Any notable differences? I know its got a slightly shorter half life to C or E, can you still get away with pinning E3.5D?
>>76407376ok thats me right now as a natty minus looking awesome so where are the disadvantages of roids?
What should I test before I hop on?
Test
Fsh
Lh
Est
Dht
Anything else?
>>76407376I'm gonna be honest with you, anon. Sometimes this shit makes me feel like a monster, not like a cool monster but like a fucking weird feral subhuman freak. And that shit gets me so fucking hard I stop thinking straight.
>bought some perfectly legal and above board products from the beaker website
>checked out as guest
>they rolled me up an account
>they pulled my name from my shipping address and made that my username
Jesus fucking Christ.
>>76407964How about none of those you bitch reddit nigger
Need some advice:
Been training for 8 years, have good gains and lifetime natty. Someone in my gym offered me some Sarms, specifically lgd4033. I train at a pretty hardcore gym, about 40% of members are roiding.
My question: should i take 1 cycle of these sarms? He says there are virtually no side effects except for test suppresion which can be fixed after the cycle. My wife would be really really upset if i started roiding, however is this really roiding? Test and needles are not an option, but if i tell her i use a special supplement she might be okay with it. Lying to her is also not an option.
>>76407964It's nit worth it to buy tests piecemeal. Just get a full panel from a lab company. It's around $300. Google promo codes. Go to anyone and look for bodybuilder type packages. They are basically roider blood panels.
CBC and metabolic takes a day for results. Test and IGF take 3-4 days. E2 takes 7-10 days.
>76408086No (you) for you because you're a bitch repeating bitchmade slogans.
>>76408124I have tests for free, my mom works at the clinic. So I can pick and choose whatever I want no need for packages thats why im asking.
>>76408113As far as your wife is concerned, it's roiding.
>>76408113yeah if you aren't willing to lie then you just can't do it. SARMs are PEDs no matter what even if they aren't strictly steroids. You wife probably doesn't care about the difference. When she says "I don't want you roiding" she means, I don't want you using socially shunned potentially harmful compounds to get a better physique. SARMs are gay anyways. I personally don't think they're worth the suppression.
>>76407964Definitely SHBG and Albumin. Prolactin. Maybe IGF. Hope that you did free and total test. Maybe even bioavailable test too.
>>76407376Maybe stop smoking meth
>>76407964>>76408136In that case may as well get all that, plus psa cbc metabolic and liver/lipids for a baseline. Otherwise, lowkey bloods are kinda worthless. I've moved away from them over time because they're all just fucking irrelevant.
>Test on cycleWho cares? It's gonna be high, the exact number is irrelevant. Only worth checking on cycle if you have bunk gear. I guess it's nice knowing baseline before hopping on though if you plan on coming off
>estrogenCompletely irrelevant unless you're having symptoms. Treat symptoms not numbers
>lipidsYour lipids will be skewed no matter what. WIAOW I'm taking things that crush my lipids and my lipids are crushed. Lipids on cruise are more worthwhile since if your lipids are amazing on cruise it'll balance out them being average american (still abysmal) on blast
>liver enzymesJust don't waste your time with orals, imo. Might be worthwhile on tren
Most important metrics while on blast are blood pressure and hematocrit and both can be measured without bloods. You can purchase one of those hemoglobin meters that the red cross uses to make sure you're good to donate and it's pretty accurate, not sure about those cheapo ones on amazon though.
>>76408196Oh and kidneys are worth checking once a year or so
>>76408189>>76408196Ive already done full morphology, lipids, livers etc all that shit. Everything was perfect other than my low testosterone results (~300). So i wanna just go and retest my test as well as other hormones which I havent tested last time to see if it was one time thing. If i get shitty results again I'll just hop on test for life.
And if its low fsh lh I assume I can try to fix it with stuff like clomid.
>mimimimi my lipids abloobloobloo my enzymes
NGMI
Maybe you should get bro to manhandle your balls to measure atrophy y'know cos you want tests and all
>>76408242I understand that doing all that shit is probably excessive, but I'm not going to shit on someone for being extra careful about their health, especially when it's literally free and accessible for them.
>>76408242I've been blasting and cruising for like 2+ years now and I cannot tell if my nuts shrank
Took some HCG recently and the size stayed about the same
Finally it's really hard to measure a testicle accurately maybe I'm retarded from the gear though
trannies grow fat asses from taking estrogen. if I let my estrogen run high while roiding, will I grow a dumptruck too?
>>76408357i have fat ass without estrogen.
>>76408357no because your T also has to be suppressed
>>76408357think retard think, glutes are the biggest muscles in human body what will grow the muscles more estrogen or roids?
>>76408481my glue muscles are about as big as they're going to get. what I need is ass fat. I have glute definition when I'm over 20% bf, it's ridiculous
>>76408490No way your ass has any sort of definition at 20% post ass.
>>76408490hank hill havin ass. do you also have a narrow eurethera?
where to find reliable sources of peptides in EU. on eroids.com I found uk-peptides.com and peptides.uk with 6 and 4 good reviews (none bad), but that seem like not enough. Lab testing few shops would get expensive
>>76408704yeah but which one, I found on google swisschems.com, swisschems.org, swisschems.is
if my shoulders and traps are absolutely massive without even training them does that mean I'm high responder
I'm taking 1mg finasterdie year round. I'm on a 500mg test cycle.
I couldn't get DHT levels when did my bloodwork. Do you have an idea what of dosage would actually be appropriated?
I've added 0.5mg Dut on top of my 1mg Fina without really knowing if it's warranted
>>76409640no it just means you do work that engages your shoulders and traps without realizing it
>>76408565I used this for bpc and tb but I can't say I felt anything magical from them desu my pec tendon still took months to heal. either theyre legit and my injury just couldnt be healed by the peptides or the peptides were a scam and the reviews are fake
https://www.trustpilot.com/review/www.uk-peptides.com
>>76409831That's the thing I genuinely don't.
>>76410070You’re just dumb
>>76410074I'm being serious my shoulders and traps are way oversized compared to the rest of my body
>>76408490>ass definition at +20%either you're skinny as shit or I NEED to see this
>>76410090>nooo bro my build is actually crazy hahalet's fucking SEE IT anon
So I'm on 10mg/wk tirz and been plateauing and just got a shipment of reta I want to phase in. Upping the tirz is no go as the sides get way worse past 10mg. As I understand it reta is way worse for appetite suppression but works more through boosting lipolysis. Would I be fine holding the tirz dose steady and introducing the reta 1mg at a time? Or should I want to cut the tirz dose proportionally, or just discontinue totally and let it clear out of my body before starting the reta?
>>76410998cut tirz, start reta. sema > tirz > reta. each adds something new. like... sema = a. tirz = a+ b. reta =a+b+c
>>76394526She has so much eye makeup
>>76412072Thats what makes it hot
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>>76410505No its just my shoulders for some reason my arms are small af
If I crash my estrogen on purpose will I look better due to the lost water weight?
t. going to the beach in a few weeks
>>76412722just drink some vodka you tard
>he doesnt know about bromuda triangle
Is oral test a thing? Can I get away with pills if my test is clinically low and I just need it to be normal or am I gonna have to start jabbing myself like people with already normal test do?
>>76412452roiding for this, and ur a midge too, what a joke
Give me a compound to add to my 500mg test cycle that won't fuck up my hair
>>76412728wait what does vodka do
what will 400mg test 16wk do to me if i havent been lifting for a year and a half
assuming diet and training are locked in with the cycle being an 8 weeks 500cal bulk + 8 weeks aggresive cut addding anavar
>>76412810use the test gel, tard. don't let anyone touch you on the application area, 'cause it'll rub off on them too
>>7641324320-24 weeks, nigger. anavar the last 8. if it's your first time maybe you can put on 10-15lbs lean mass. maybe you'll drop some fat. lifts go brrrr, so avoid progressive overloading, or you might tear something
>>76413426>topical testwhy the fuck
that sounds stupid and extremely inconvenient
>>76413426Gels are shit. My gf uses them for her estrogen (she's male) and it's like she hasn't had them at all. Just like a permanent period period, period.
>>76413445scientists had to find an alternative because people like
>>76412810 are scared of needles. it has poor bioavailability compared to injections, but is still significantly better than oral which is so low it's almost not worth mentioning.
>>76412810Why not just use nolvadex at that point?
>>76413512>it has poor bioavailability compared to injections, but is still significantly better than oral which is so low it's almost not worth mentioning.fuck. jabbing myself it is then
>>76413537idk will that help?
>>76413550Research suggests that Nolvadex (Tamoxifen) can significantly increase testosterone levels in men, with studies showing up to a 40% rise at 20 mg/day
>>76413583>40% risenah that's not gonna do much for me
>>76412810Go get your T, E2, LH, FSH, DHT tested first
>>76413596>Treally low
>E2high but within normal range
>LH, FSH, DHTyeh good idea, gonna check SHBG and prolactin just in case too
>>76413590its for normal men
>>76413626just post the numbers retard dont cope with really low
>>76413626sounds like you have too much aromatization so probably just take an AI and you'll be fine
>>76413689how does the hpta work, anon?
>>76413676>post the numbers197 ng/dL, like i said really fucking low
>>76413698what?
too much aromatization = high E2 = more hpta axis suppression = less T
>>76413714that is quite literally the opposite of how it works. more test <=> more e2
>>76413714God, I hate when I inject testosterone and crash my e2 as a result so I have to take aromasin to pump it up a little bit.
>>76413719i said too much aromatization for a reason
in normal people the aromatase ratios are appropriate so that T levels are still in range but clearly anon is not normal
>>76413724this doesn't apply to exogeneous hormones because they are not subject to the hpta axis
>>76413727>this doesn't apply to exogeneous hormones because they are not subject to the hpta axislmao, what do you think causes high e2 from injecting testosterone?
>>76413735aromatase no shit but the T dose you inject does not depend on how much E2 acts on the gnrh neurons
Oldfag here, curious if anyone on here has experience or any info on dosing GHB as a form of GH therapy? All the oldheads use to swear by it before you could just straight up pin GH. I've read a lot of studies boasting its effectiveness but the results of these studies don't feel super scientific.
Long story short, I've been cruising on sustanon (don't bash it till you try it) since the blasting days of my early 20s. Recently was looking to add something to the cruise to spice it up or maybe even do a mini blast.
I ordered a vial of GHB off the darkweb, tried it at recreational doses to see what it was like, ended up taking too much and passing out.
HOWEVER, i literally woke up this morning lean, full, dry, feeling strong, and in a great well rested mood. This is after a dose of around 15g spread out through the evening/night.
Any info is appreciated, I'm mainly looking for if the "therapeutic" dose of 2.5g before bed actually does anything? I've read some bodybuilders taking as much as 25-50g per day, spread out by 2h dosages. Does it need to be that much?
>>76413740>no evidence exists to suggest links between the use of GHB and muscle development or performance improvementAt least you get to have some fun with it.
>>76413778"The conflicting results obtained by Rigamonti and Móller (29), given the flumazenil-mediated effect (24), were interpreted as if the GH-releasing activity of GHB was mainly due to an endogenous conversion into GABA. Moreover, the absence of GH increase in cocaine addicts and alcoholics might be due to a disruption of the GABAergic system (26, 28)."
The jury is still out. Whether we understand the mechanism of its performance enhancing properties or not is completely irrelevant to me. It was used as a PED for decades and is still used to this day.
I'm looking for real world experiences, or even hearsay of real world experiences, not reddit science.
reta is really wreaking havoc on my digestive system. I cannot stop burping the foulest burps ever and my stomach has been rumbling 24/7 for the past week. anything you guys suggest, other than magnesium which I use already for more regular poops
>>76413550please. just pin it. you can use 31g insulin pins. you'll hardly feel it. if you're too fat to get it intramuscularly, you can do it subcutaneously just fine. catch with subq is you get lumps if you go too high volume
Do we not like orals then? I'm planning to blast oral stanozolol for my first cycle, got support shit like TUDCA and NAC lined up. Starting with just 10 mg per day.
>>76413843change your eating habits, fatty. nasty burps is undigested food going foul. reduce your portion size, and/or stick to more easily digestible foods
>>76413931Some people here don't. Oral gains are largely temporary unless you run them for longer durations, which is only really possible for the more mild ones unless you're just resistant to the sides from the stronger ones.
Var, Tbol, Dbol... never used oral winny so I can't speak on that but I'm certain its also quite mild.
Also that "first cycle" better include test at a non-baby dose or else me and everyone else here will call you a faggot.
how bad does test fuck up your skin?
I'm 27 this year but legit look 5 years younger, should I stay away if I wanna keep this?
>>76414245Test can easily add 5 years to your face. More if you add another compound.
Test basically shows your real age as a man, it really kills the femboy twink look
>>76413843dosing too high? eating too much fatty foods? kefir helps my stomach issues.
anyone have experience using DNP or thyroid drugs for fat loss?
>>76414337not worth it for me then right now, I somehow haven't hit the wall yet
>>76414393it's not permanent. the only permanent losses are hair loss and that can be completely mitigated in many cases if you're even susceptible
>>76413243she used to be so beautiful
>>76414245I'm late 20s on a gram of year and get asked if I'm in college/what I'm majoring in. I don't think gear really ages you if you take care of yourself and don't norwood.
>>76414395>>76414415I've already taken the incelpill and my dick hasn't fallen off yet so I'm covered on the hair front
the physique I want is easily achievable natty anyway, I'm just a lazy fuck
>>76414447then why do you care about looking young? you clearly gave up on pussy anyways.
>>76414008I haven't gone over 1000 calories in like 2 weeks lol
>>76414364been eating around 30~50g of fat daily, so shouldn't be.
>>76414593oh and I'm only on 2mg. 1mg was too little but I've been on 2mg for 2 weeks now and appetite-wise (and habits wise) it's working very well
>>76414570because young men like other young men
>>7641393110mg is fuck all. 50mg is decent, 100mg is best.
My cycle's over in a few weeks. What's the best way to strip the fat and water? Just still working out and a calorie deficit?
>>76414733Dandelion root
If you really want to pull water, NOW supplements Water Out. Be careful with this one. Only do it 1 week before your photo shoot as the Uva Ursi may play fucky wucky with your kidneys.
Could also try keto to drain out glycogen in the muscles and then Carb TFO day before you want to hit the flex (I'm assuming you're doing this for a party or beach day).
Any chilean bro here? I need some guidance.
>>76414756Thanks I'll try that too.
>I'm assuming you're doing this for a party or beach dayStripping the fat and water? Not entirely. My body fat was already higher than I wanted it to be before I started. Now I've put 28lbs on since I started the cycle, but I know a lot of that is, in particular, fat. Especially around my stomach. At least the rest of me looks better.
All in all I probably did start for all of the wrong reasons, but too late to change that now.
>>76414813For fat loss,
Tirz. While Reta may help with fat loss, it's not great at appetite suppression. This is on top of the fact it's the least studied and can cause HR increases.
Tirz also has the least gastro side effects IIRC.
A-Yohimbine or normal Yohimbine b4 fasted cardio. FOr some reason it makes me sweat harder.
>>76414447>incelpill>i want to look like a teen twinkAre you sure you didnt mean faggotpill
>>76414593good lord. so your not digesting then. look up easy to digest foods, and give that a go for a few days
>>76414593maybe your gut biome is out of sorts too,
? did you change what foods you eat? can try some kefir, or some probiotic
Is the consensus still that you should get lean before touching roids? Fat cells will aramatize the test into estrogen is what I read
I know you fags won't tell me where to order roids from but could you possibly point me toward where I need to look in order to learn where to order roids from. Like there has to be some kind of starting point or something
>>76417622yes this does happen but you can take an aromatase inhibitor so it's not a big deal
>>76417630If you’re too incompetent to find steroids online (they are EVERYWHERE on the clearnet), you are absolutely too incompetent to use steroids.
Gatekeeping is always a good thing. You’re getting filtered by your inability to even find them before you even get a chance to fuck yourself up with androgens.
>>76417630Meso for chink shit. Sst for domestic meatheads brewing in their kitchen.
>>76417728Gate keep harder fag.
>>76417728seems like a pretty legitimate question for me. I can google shit but there is really no way of knowing which chinese bathtub chemicals are the good ones whats a glowie sting operation
>>76417791Just ask a random big guy at your gym jeez its not that hard
>>76417622It's way overblown and slightly high e2 isn't the end of the world.
>>76417668AIs are bad for you too. Only take it on blast. Cruise on a dose you don't need AI.
I had to discontinue finasteride use because I was starting to get gyno. Does that mean I shouldn't even try to do a cycle without AI
on the bright side I like to think that my future daughters will have big tits
>>76417957just use T gel on your tits
does anyone take eq? is it worth it or should I just stick to my test/deca blast
>>76417791once you find a name, google the name. if there's no chatter, it's bullshit. people openly discuss ugl's all over the place. there's a ton of random (mostly full of fucktards though) forums that go on about this stuff. also fyi ignore all forums that have a subforum for mewing. those are 100% full of children
>>76408565no STEROID SOURCE TALK is allowed
get it?
no STEROID SOURCE TALK.
don't do it.
At age 39, lean and in shape,
Want to do a 12-16week cycle of test e/c, I understand all the ai’s and pct etc, would be getting bloods before, and every 4 weeks, would eat 500-700kcal surplus, etc etc…
But can anyone experienced explain to me why it would or wouldn’t be a good idea to end the bulk at 12 or 16 weeks, drop the kcals back, and drop down to TRT dose like 100 or 150 and stay at that dose and kcals for 8-12 weeks to get a good start on the cut while being assisted
In my mind the worst thing to do would seem to be to drop test cold Turkey and try to cut and maintain muscle while you have 0 test for 8 weeks
Sure you’d be technically on gear longer, but would this really make eventual pct longer and harder than if you came off of 500mg at week 16? It seems to me like it might be a better plan for keeping some of those gains because you’d be able to lose fat while actually having some t in your blood
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what's better for preserving bone size TRT or therapeutic dose of GH?
Good news everyone, I've done some research into long term Deca use and it looks like all you need to do is to take an ACE inhibitor and Glycine/NAC to counter the cardiac remodeling and endothelial hardening respectively. Along with a low-inflammation diet (which you should be doing anyway), there should be no issues aside from the usual bloodwork and BP.
>>76418282very likely TRT
>>76413843Ordered some reta myself (Nextech Labs, good Finnrick score), have any tips? I was going to start low, either at .5mg or 1mg a week.
>>76418503it's been fairly uneventful for me other than the typical gastro sides. wouldn't recommend starting from .5mg unless you're tiny, the standard dose is 4mg/week. start at 1 or 2 and then increase by 1mg/week until you find your sweet spot. from my previous sema usage, I can recommend magnesium a lot, helps with the pooping.
thankful for my cruise dose of test on the side as I literally cannot consume calories when I'm full (and I get full incredibly quickly) sparing some of my muscle mass. can't hit my macros at all, sub 1000 cal every day.
>>7641828120-24 weeks, and 750mg, pls. it takes 6 weeks just for your body to adapt and use the higher levels of test. building muscle takes 6-8 weeks. a 12 week cycle means your just getting your first new muscle in, then you stop. ride that gravy train, and build as much as you can! then i think your talking about blast and cruise.... do your blast, don't pct, dial down to 150mg for six months, blast again. otherwise, no, you're not gonna lose less muscle by doing X after a blast. you're gonna end up back at your natty limit without aas. just how it is
>>76418852What is 750? I said 500mg for the blast and 150 mg for 8 weeks after
>>76418673That's not good at all. TRT dose isn't gonna save your muscle, nor even tren IMO if you aren't getting enough protein.
I had a bro stop Ret because he was losing too much muscle and fat.
>>76417630There's forums where people talk about this shit. Steroid Source Talk (SST) and SteroidWiki both have forums where sources are reviewed and talked about among other things. You'll find the best prices internationally, though you'll need to wait for it to arrive and clear customs.
Like other guy said, if you look up the source and there's not much in the way of reviews or talk about it then don't trust it. It's more likely its just a scam rather than a glowie trap though, glowies really don't give a fuck or have a stake in stopping illegal roids because who fucking cares. Even if it gets seized by customs they won't even confront you about it in most countries, and the seller will usually offer to reship for free. That's how inconsequential it is.
Don't "ask the big guy in your gym" nobody does this anymore and I guarantee nobody currently has the social tact to actually create a friendship and ask earnestly. You'd probably look like a dweeb or an asshole just looking for gear rather than some level of social connection. They'd also probably make you buy it from them and scam the fuck out of you, or point you to some retarded overpriced source.
I personally use a certain lab whose logo is a purple panda.
>>76418033does this actually fucking work?
>>76418090its cool. works as a moderate AI, gives some more lean gains, and works like a poor man's EPO for cardio/energy gains. just make sure not to crash E2. also i've heard it can give some people bad anxiety.
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From what Im reading here, its virtually completely harmless to take 150mg - 250mg TRT. Zero side effects, wont turn off natural test production if stopped, dont need to worry about E2 or whatever and dont even need to take blood tests. I've got like 600-700 ng/dL but still fell low energy and low libido. I just want to be at the level of my forefathers, hoping it will help me with the will to live but not look like a roiding freak
>>76419202sorry i meant to say DHT gel but yes it does work at suppressing breast growth
to reverse you'll probably want to run raloxifene or tamoxifen
>>76419276You're a retarded faggot and nothing you said is true.
Test, even at TRT levels, does increase the risk of cardiovascular events and disease. As a TRTfag myself, I don't care because the benefits are far worth that, but we can't ignore that the fact is true. Lifetime usage would likely reduce life expectancy to some degree.
Taking TRT dosages will 100% shut you off the same way blast dosages will, and the ramifications of coming off will be the same. If anything, coming off of TRT after years of usage would be way worse than coming off from a 20 week cycle due to how long the shutodown was.
You do need to worry about E2. How much you aromatize is highly individual. I personally have E2 problems on higher than 200.
Blood tests are good for knowing how much test you actually have, because sensitivity to TRT is also highly individual. At 125 I only had 580 test where that dose could easily put someone else at 1000. I need 200 to be in high normal range, which i wouldnt have known without blood tests.
Your low energy and low libido at 6-700 doesn't come from lack of test, it comes from your shitty habits and lifestyle as well as your blackpilled outlook on life. you're going to be a drug addict constantly pushing the test higher as a psychoactive substance because you want to "feel alive" and "like a man".
>>76419282I've tried ralox for gyno, but I have a feeling I didn't run it long enough or at high enough dosages. What's the protocol for this?
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>>76419314yea youre probably right. i dont know wtf is wrong with me but i am pretty healthy.