>legs are the most functio-ACK
What is the perfect body for fighting? What muscles are the most important for manhandling, dominating, and beating someone?

How come none of these pro fighters have the powershitter builds like Jonnie Candito and chrisgonlift?

>>76392289 (OP)
All of these guys squat and deadlift

>>76392289 (OP)
You couldnt beat 15yo me

>>76392299
More of these guys can bench 3pl8 than squat 4pl8.
Top row of guys rarely, if ever squat and deadlift. Middle guy can't run on pavement without injuring his knees.

>>76392289 (OP)
1) they all compete in weight classed sports, where excessive muscle (but not strength) is a detriment
2) you can have very strong but still slim legs, especially if...
3) they're all very tall, I think Usman here is the shortest and he's at least average height, most of them are heavyweights well over 6' for which it's going to be difficult to build massive legs

>>76392317
Here is a video of Jon "Chicken legs" Jones deadlifting 6+ plates

https://youtu.be/5xeRMbOUbjo

>>76392317
>>76392339
https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/gallery/gq-sport-david-haye-boxing-training-programme-workout
"I work on strength, meaning fewer reps. I do the bench press (145kg), squats (180kg) and chin-ups (with 45kg weights around my waist). Two sessions a day - two days on, one day off."
>bench press (145kg)
>squats (180kg)

>>76392339
wonder why he's not starting from the ground. Wonder as in genuinely curious, I'm not being catty.

>>76392299
Wilder definitely doesn't lmao.

>>76392391
Punching power comes from the hips and legs so although he may have shit genetics for bodybuilding, he's definitely got power in those legs.

>>76392404
Overused quote, it comes from the ass not the legs. As much as it comes from the legs, increasing your tricep strength by 50% would be more beneficial for punch power than increasing quad strength by 70%, and increasing core strength by 30% would be more beneficial than both.

>>76392339
>longest arms in mma
>not off the ground
yeah thats like a 3pl8 deadlift for normal person

>>76392404
Power doesn't come from the legs, you retard. Stop talking about sport you've never done.

>>76392289 (OP)
>boxers don't need big legs
>brock could squat 600lbs
Dumb OP

>>76392464
>Brock
>boxer

>>76392464
https://www.essentiallysports.com/wwe-news-how-much-can-brock-lesnar-bench-press-the-number-will-amaze-you/
>600 lb squat
>655 lb bench
>legs are the most important part!!!!
Uh-huh... definitely proportionate and you want to spend equal amounts training both,

https://www.reddit.com/r/bjj/comments/vydjf8/how_is_gordon_ryan_the_best_in_the_world_with/

>>76392469
I sincerely doubt he benched 655. He only did 30 reps with 225 in the NFL combine. I've done 28 and my best bench was 420lbs.

>>76392385

A certain school of thought in sports trainers these days is to only train in the range of motion you want/need to be strong in. So fighters don't punch from bent over, at most just a half crouch, so full ROM isn't needed. Makes it easier to recover from and fit more training in because less total work is being performed.

>>76392289 (OP)
>MMA guys have big legs like greco roman athletes
>Boxers have normal or even scrawny legs
Take a fucking guess why OP

>>76392533
>MMA guys have big legs
>Kamaru Usman and Dricus Du Plessis look like they did SS for 1 month then trained upper body for 2 years
>Brock Lesnar looks like he did SS for 2 months

>>76392728
I call it SS cognitive dissonance.

>>76392456
This is not even cope, that 'deadlift' (rack pull actually) is not impressive for a guy with his proportions/size
Struggling to lock out
cross grip
wearing a belt
no eccentric
It's a bit over 2x bodyweight, if he did it raw off the ground with better form it'd be a decent lift

>>76392456
probably way higher if he knows how to brace

>>76392289 (OP)
>for fighting
core and shoulders

>>76393195
It's a rack pull but he's also standing on a platform and 6'4. The range of motion is still large enough for it to be impressive.

>>76392289 (OP)

All those guys have insanely strong legs. Wilder apparently can squat a TON. It's just that they don't have a ton of mass on their legs

big legs =/= strong legs

blacks have shit-tier leg genetics

>>76392441
>>76392457
Try punching while sitting down and say legs dont come into play

Arm day is the hardest

>>76393283
Legs stabilise, they don't provide much power, you stupid gymtard.

t. kickboxer

>>76393265
source: your asshole

>>76393336
>legs only stabilize
Try punching while sitting down, you will be even more stabilized. Tell again if you think your power is the same without your legs

>>76392289 (OP)
Is this bait
Brock Lesnar squats well over 600 pounds.

>>76392317
The Klitschkos apparently can't bench above 130 kg, but you have to consider their height, extremely long arms and that they never max out, so for that a 130 kg bench is pretty good.

Non-meme answer to OP's question
>Blocky waist
>Long arms and wide clavicles
>Longer legs for a striker, shorter legs for a wrestler
>Less muscle overall for a strike, more back and bicep muscle for a wrestler

>>76392289 (OP)
Am I supposed to know who the fuck these are

>>76393449
Are you fucking stupid? Punching power comes from torque, and you can't do that sitting. Punching power is all hips and core. Walk into any boxing gym and ask them if they squat. They'll laugh in your face.

>b-but Jon Jones
Jones got into powerlifting when he was banned from the UFC for 2 years. He doesn't lift as heavy when he's training for a fight, according to Jon himself.

>>76394206
>Walk into any boxing gym and ask them if they squat
>Fighters don't do any strength training
>You need to involve your legs because its very important but its also not important
I can't tell if you are trolling or if you are actually some retarded larper but your legs plays a huge role in punching. Like the anon said, trying sitting down and punching and let him know if your punching power is still the same. God damn, there is even technique in how to use your legs when punching

>>76394206
>>76394328
Your punching power literally comes from your hips and legs turning over, your arm is just the end of the whip
If you dont turn over your body and roll with every punch you're just doing cardio

>>76394344
Lets put it this way. Whose going to have a stronger punching power? The dude who cant squat the barbell or the guy squatting 500+lbs? Im taking it to the extremes to show how retarded you are

>>76394524
The guy who squats 600lbs is gonna have less punching power than the guy who push presses 250, and the guy who push presses 250 is going to weigh WAY LESS.

>>76392289 (OP)
its rear muscles. hams lower back traps etc

>>76392289 (OP)
>>76394701
looked up its called posterior chain if u want basedence term

>>76393283
The power is from core engagement, which is facilitated greatly by glute activation. You guys are all retards except the kickboxer. He's alright.

>>76392531
That's a good thought if they weren't also crushing GH

>>76392289 (OP)
Asians invented fighting, you need to include them too

>>76392289 (OP)
If you're in a weight class and your sport needs endurance then

I don't know. I don't have the heart for it tonight. Sorry.

>>76392339
>deadlift
>it's a rack pull from just below the knee

>>76394524
stupid question
the better question is: who would have a stronger punch, the guy who trained mma for 4 years but never tried squatting in his life or the guy who strength trained for 4 years and squats 500lbs but has never thrown a punch in his life?
nobody that has a good punch won't be able to squat the barbell, that's why it's a stupid question.

>>76392289 (OP)
For fighting the most important muscles are back, posterior chain and legs

Also 5/6 you posted have tree trunks

Rico verhoeven has giant legs