I've gotten the best results in both strength and size when I trained to failure and always felt better after.

People who tell you not to train to failure are soft and missing out, I don't care what retarded third-world meta analysis study they try to use to tell me otherwise.

>>76394852 (OP)
I train every set of every exercise to failure and I cannot comprehend why one wouldn't. like I can do another rep but nooooooo I'm supposed to stop already and miss out on the muscle burn because I was supposed to only do x number of reps on this set? what the fuck.

>>76394852 (OP)
where do you get your anomalocaris? my butcher never seems to have any in stock. do you have to go to a specialty store or like an asian market or something?

>>76394866
You have to pay a little extra to the butcher for what they have in the backroom.

when i first started out i was doing high volume and high intensity. like 30x8-12 sets a week of bicep isolation, each set to failure. couldn't recover from that as a natty. trying out mentzer's 4 day split now. never going to ever try not going to failure.

>>76394852 (OP)
just do 1 rir bro, holy fatigue

>>76394852 (OP)
I largely agree. I think the RIR system is reserved for advanced trainees who know their limits, cause most people who lift "think" they're close to failure when they're not. Training to failure ensures that you actually get the most out of your training
>>76394865
Well, it is useful sometimes, for example when you do heavy compounds. Taking heavy squats to failure can be dangerous, but even if you have perfect technique, that last grinder rep takes way more than it gives in terms of fatigue. So it'll leave you way more exhausted than the other reps while giving you no more gains. If it's your last set for that exercise, fuck it, go all out, but your first/second sets? Usually better to stick to 1-2 RIR in my experience.

>>76394892
What's the difference? I hear this shit all the time:
>You don't need to train to failure
>Oh, but you should train really, really hard! Like 1 in reserve of failure! BUT NOT TO FAILURE!

>>76394852 (OP)
>>76394865
I get little nagging injuries that build up over time when I push to failure on compoud lifts.
Isolations I usually go until I can't but compound lifts I just aim for a challenging weight I can do with good form and trying to progress when I can.
Focus on training hard, but don't overfixate on killing yourself at the gym.

cool thread but what the fuck is that

>>76394924
Anomalocaris
They're an extinct pre-Cambrian (I think) creature.

>>76394924
>>76394968
pic comes from a japanese twitter account, posted on april fools

>>76394852 (OP)
>World's first predaror-ACK

>>76394852 (OP)
how much protein is in sea monkeys? i've been thinking about getting a smaller above-ground pool from walmart for my living room and raising a massive amount of sea monkeys in it. i could just hop in after every lifting session and graze like a whale shark for recovery protein.

>>76394852 (OP)
Can’t believe it’s already been 540 million years

>>76394852 (OP)
>I've gotten the best results in both strength and size when I trained to failure
Post numbers. Post body. But we know you won't./thread

>>76394852 (OP)
I hate training to failure because doms make me useless for 2 days after

>>76396142
You can't grow muscle fiber without doms. No I am not saying doms is the cause. I am saying that your body simply will not myofibrilar hypertrophy over something that wasn't violent enough to cause doms.

>>76394852 (OP)
different bodies respond differently jay cutler supposedly didn't train to failure

>>76394852 (OP)

>>76394852 (OP)

>>76395348
lol oldfag

>>76396780
sad lol

>>76396769
oh shut the fuck up retard,when you're on that amount of roids you can probably get insane muscle pumps from just getting off a chair.Also off course someone who competes is gonna be extra wary of getting injuries

>>76394852 (OP)
Thought I was on /an/ for a minute.
I can see both sides. I've definitely run into strength losses doing to too much to failure work. I love training to failure with machines and high stability movments because I can really get there reliably in any rep range. But there's a lot of lifts where I'll just get stuck in the pocket and have to do partials or short rom to get there and at that point I'm not even sure what to quantify the set as or progress on that long term. I'll even do pause sets sometimes but I'm almost always weaker the next session.

I squat 4pl8 and deadlift 5pl8 and I have never failed a rep in either lift. Bench/chins/OHP etc I have failed many times, and ofc any isolation you can go to failure every single set. For bench and weighted chins you want to avoid absolute failure most of the time tho, on squats and DL it should practically never occur and only as a planned attempt at a new PR.
Try lifting the weights before posting doggo dogshit takes

>>76396806
^jew

Hackenschmidt said dont train to failure, nothing in excess.

>>76394852 (OP)
Practically every single person should train to failure. Most people who think they train to failure, have usually 3-4 reps left in the tank and if they would start training with a professional trainer/buddy, they would realize what actually pushing to failure is.

So if you are like most people AND you train with few reps in reserve, you are actually like 5-6 reps away from failure which obviously equals to sandbagging. Yeah it's enough to get results, but you are certainly missing out.

>>76394865
You gotta be careful with that

>people who think they train to failure, have usually 3-4 reps left in the tank
>physically cannot complete another rep
>am not training to failure

>>76396839
excess would be post-failure techniques

When a routine mentions a specific amounts of reps, its supposed to mean to failure
So if you want to do 8x3 then you put on enough weight that somewhere around 8 reps you will get to failure

>>76397179
You're not training reading comprehension to failure that's for sure