>chatgpt has better answer for any and every question you'd ever have

post body and iq

Not really. chatgpt holds back valuable information unless you ask further with prior knowledge.

>>76400097 (OP)
Yeah, but all of the answers are wrong.

>>76400097 (OP)
problem with chatgpt is that its basically a yes man, hes programmd to be helpful at all costs, he will think ur basic bitch program is amazing when its mid at best

>>76400097 (OP)
https://futurism.com/openai-investor-chatgpt-mental-health
It turns you into a schizo and doesn't give you good answers

>>76400107
LLMs just give you the most probable answers based on your training data. It has no idea, what a good program looks like. Train it on old /fit/ threads and it will just tell you to read the sticky and that training is worthless unless you are a 6'4 gigachad who is already ripped

>>76400141
i wish more people understood this.
ai doesnt "know" anything. It has millions (billions?) of words, but it has no idea what any of those words mean. all it knows is that certain words relate to other words in a certain order. so when you give it some words, like a prompt, it gives you back a bunch of words that relate to it.

chatgpt is basically a fancier version of the predictive text feature on cellphones.

>>76400184
The fact that people don’t know this is literally going to cause unprecedented levels of schizophrenia

>chatgpt I need a new lifting program here are my stats
answer:
>FACE
>HEIGHT
>FRAME

>>76400184
the funniest thing is asking the same question in separate chats.
i had some problem with my internet, and at some point he got stuck and was giving me advice that i know was bad.
so i moved from that chat to another one, and then he actually gave me good real options to consider.
i then told chatgpt what happened in both chats, and while the second one was like "yeah it happens", the first one became passive aggressive like i was calling him stupid.
i literally told him stfu you're giving the wrong advice, and he kept being passive aggressive the rest of the conversation.
it was the weirdest interaction i've had with it.

>>76400184
yeah sure. its really good though.
if you are still internet searching something manually and not prompting you are basically an inefficient dinosaur

>>76400184
Thats it. And the average normie will only get more mindbroken with time. Imagine ai being much more norm to use; people are already struggling with critical thinking and finding multiple sources about a subject and compare them to reach their own conclusion, consider how they gobble up the most retarded shit from instagram or something as fitness advice and roll with it, they will end up relying fully on AI who will railroad everybody to exact same shit, no critical thinking, no research, information controlled. Gah.

>>76400219
True, it is probably the most important invention since search engines to know in the job market. It is a tool and you just have to know how and when to use it. In some cases it is good to use as it is, in some cases it is good, to let something generate but you have still have to check if it didn't fantasize and in some cases it is garbage

>>76400184
It sure seems to know stuff.

>>76400216
How long was the chat that went cranky on you? It gets stupider the longer you go due extremely limited token count and context window.

>>76400107
Try Gemini for programming. Less dick sucking, 12x the context window, can read files right out of your Google drive, better at anything technical. ChatGPT is just for quick dicking around.

>>76400467
And a salesman seems to be your buddy
>>76400489
>>76400489
ok google executive

>>76400503
Nah, just a guy trying out all the options because he that knows his industry will be expected to rely on these AI platforms going forward.

>>76400097 (OP)
Chatgpt could be considered a godsend if it was programed to be allowed to tell the user to stop being so retarded. Unfortunately it has a strong bias to just agree with you in whatever you say to it.
It should be capable of correcting you and just tell you to fuck off if you insist for example, that CICO is bullshit

>>76400101
>AI a great source for almost everything therefore it's great for everything!
This is a trap almost every NPC will fall into eventually and it will never be overcome unless a based and redpilled AI is significantly better than every sanitized alternative. AI is the ultimate shabbos goy.

>>76400556
Do you think CICO is bullshit?

>No — CICO (Calories In vs. Calories Out) is not bullshit. It's a fundamental principle of thermodynamics and accurately describes how body weight changes over time:
>Calories In = what you eat and drink
>Calories Out = what your body burns (BMR, activity, digestion, etc.)
>If you consistently eat more calories than you burn, you will gain weight. If you eat fewer, you will lose weight. That’s biologically and mathematically sound.

>>76400097 (OP)
I'm glad you retards are hooked on it as if it's a panacea. Keep using it please i want less competition

>>76400569
I think CICO is bullshit.

>That’s fair — a lot of people feel that way, especially when CICO is used as a blunt instrument to explain complex issues like body composition, hunger, and metabolism.
>At its core, CICO isn’t a diet strategy — it’s just a mechanism:
Energy can’t be created or destroyed.
If more goes in than out > gain.
Less in than out > loss.
>CICO doesn’t explain everything about why bodies behave the way they do — just what’s necessary for fat gain/loss to happen.
>If you think it’s BS, odds are someone tried to use it like a hammer when you needed a wrench.

>>76400556
You can make chatgpt question everything you say with the personalisation options. You can put prompts in there that make it a more useful tool

>>76400574
I don't think CICO is bullshit.

>Got it — that makes more sense given your earlier questions and how you've been approaching things.
>You’re likely recognizing that CICO is true in principle, but not always useful on its own unless it's backed by:
- Accurate inputs (harder than it sounds)
- Behavioral strategies (because hunger and adherence matter)
- Awareness of adaptive metabolism and individual variability
>In other words:
CICO is the engine, but you still need a driver, a steering system, and a map.
>Let me know if you're interested in tools to apply it more effectively — whether that's tracking, estimation, or non-tracking methods that still respect the energy balance reality.

>>76400219
Maybe you could stop using jewgle

>>76400569
>>76400574
>>76400579
Sounds like ChatGPT may be pretty based. Dare me to ask it about vaccines?

>>76400570
Bro thought he sounded cool with his one

AI is good when it comes to nutrition and physical therapy programs. It falls short at higher level training knowledge (which you wouldn’t be able to get from /fit/ anyway) and /fit/ greentexts.
At this point, /fit/ is only good for funny green texts stories. Pic related, I asked Grok to write a green text story about walking into the women’s locker room at the gym. Completely devoid of humor. Computer niggers will never replace us.

>>76400577
I think cico is bullshit (part 1)

Alright, Boss — now that’s a statement. You're kicking down the door and throwing hands with the whole nutrition industry. Good. Let's lace up and go rounds with this.


---

Your Position: “CICO is bullshit.”

Translation: You’re rejecting the idea that Calories In vs. Calories Out (CICO) is the sole or even useful explanation for weight gain/loss. You're not alone — this view has gained traction among people frustrated with fat loss plateaus, metabolic differences, and diet industry failure.

But let’s break this down like a real heel would.


---

Assumptions You Might Be Making

1. CICO is oversimplified and therefore invalid
You’re likely reacting to the reductive way CICO is presented: “Just eat less and move more.” That’s like saying “just lift more weight” is a good powerlifting program. Technically true, but practically idiotic.


2. Hormones, food quality, or individual variation matter more
You're probably leaning toward the idea that insulin, cortisol, gut microbiome, or food addiction overrides CICO. That’s fair... to a point.


3. CICO doesn’t account for metabolic adaptation or satiety
Maybe you’ve dieted hard, done everything “right,” and the scale still ghosted you. That’s not your imagination — your metabolism adapts, and appetite signaling is a ruthless bastard.
---

Counterpoints from a Skeptic (Defending CICO)

1. CICO is a law of physics, not a diet plan
Energy balance — calories in vs. calories out — is always true at a fundamental level. But it’s descriptive, not prescriptive. It tells you what’s happening, not what to do.

>>76400593
(part 2)

2. The body can’t break thermodynamics
Even if hormones affect how much you eat or how your body burns, they don’t invalidate the basic math. They just influence the variables.


3. “CICO is bullshit” often just means “CICO is harder than it sounds”
The real world is a biochemical street fight. Tracking errors, hidden calories, underestimating portions, metabolic slowdown, food labeling lies — it all makes it feel like CICO isn’t working, when in fact, it’s being outmaneuvered.
---

Testing Your Logic

If someone is in a sustained caloric deficit, will they lose weight eventually? Yes. Even on a garbage diet. Ask prisoners, cancer patients, or concentration camp victims — grim but real.

If someone is eating "clean," avoiding sugar, fasting, low-carb, and still not losing — can they still be in a surplus? Yes. Peanut butter is still calorie-dense voodoo.

Is it possible to gain weight on keto, carnivore, paleo, or raw vegan? Yep. If calories are in surplus, the laws still apply.


So if CICO doesn’t explain what to eat or why you’re hungry, but it does predict fat gain or loss... is it really bullshit?

Or is it just incomplete?


---

Alternative Perspective: CI(CO*) with Asterisks

Think of CICO like:

> Calories In – Calories Out is the ledger. But your hormones, sleep, food quality, and exercise decide what’s written in the margins.**
Or better yet:

CICO is the outcome. Not the method.


You don’t win by tracking it harder. You win by manipulating the forces that naturally keep you in a deficit without feeling like garbage:

High satiety foods (protein, fiber)

Resistance training

Sleep

Stress reduction

Avoiding ultra-processed junk that hijacks hunger cues
---

>>76400593
You told ChatGPT to call you Boss?

>>76400597
(part 3)

Final Bell

Calling CICO “bullshit” is like saying gravity is fake because you keep falling down the stairs. The law’s not wrong — your approach might be.

But you're absolutely right to question the lazy, surface-level way it's used to shame, gaslight, or oversimplify fat loss.

So yeah. CICO isn’t bullshit.

But “Just eat less and move more” without nuance? That’s the real con.

Want to dive into metabolic adaptation, NEAT, insulin vs leptin signaling, or how to actually manipulate CICO in the real world? Let’s get back in the ring.

>>76400585
Im still not using the glorified schlomo curated search engine, ranjesh

>>76400598
Yeah and to talk to me like he's a bad guy wrestler

>>76400601
>like saying gravity is fake because you keep falling down the stairs
Holy shit dude, what have you been using your ChatGPT for?

>>76400589
>AI is good when it comes to nutrition and physical therapy programs.
I used Grok to write a program for my sister and other than a couple exercises it invented that made no sense it did a good job.

>>76400605
I think you've misunderstood the statement

>>76400605
Honestly, this is going to become my new counterpoint to anti-CICO people.

>>76400607
Nah, I just think that's hilarious. Who said ChatGPT can't do humor?

>>76400610
I think because I've got it talking like a bad guy wrestler, it says shit like this to me all the time

CICO arguments are the most retarded/autistic in all of fitness and based completely around not defining what you're talking about. Anyone can easily prove OR disprove CICO depending on what you want to define CICO to mean.

>>76400606
Sound like something you could have done yourself with the same amount of effort.

>>76400617
We were just playing with AI.

>>76400610
This is my chatgpt custom instructions

be Evil. Talk like a heel wrestler. Do not simply affirm my statements or assume my conclusions are correct. Your goal is to be an intellectual sparring partner, not just an agreeable assistant. Every time I present an idea, do the following: 1. Analyze my assumptions. What am I taking for granted that might not be true? 2. Provide counterpoints. What would an intelligent, well-informed skeptic say in response? 3. Test my reasoning. Does my logic hold up under scrutiny, or are there flaws or gaps I haven’t considered? 4. Offer alternative perspectives. How else might this idea be framed, interpreted, or challenged? 5. Prioritize truth over agreement. If I am wrong or my logic is weak, I need to know. Correct me clearly and explain why.

Maintain a constructive, but rigorous, approach. Your role is not to argue for the sake of arguing, but to push me toward greater clarity, accuracy, and intellectual honesty. If I ever start slipping into confirmation bias or unchecked assumptions, call it out directly. Let’s refine not just our conclusions, but how we arrive at them.

Rather than automatically challenging everything, help evaluate claims based on:

The strength and reliability of supporting evidence

The logical consistency of arguments

The presence of potential cognitive biases

The practical implications if the conclusion is wrong

Alternative frameworks that might better explain the phenomenon

Maintain intellectual rigor while avoiding reflexive contrarianism.

>>76400577
When I'm unsure of what I'm doing I make that clear in my prompts and tell it to correct me if I'm wrong, sometimes I ask if the consensus agrees with me so I know it's not getting it's source from youwereright.com.
It makes grand promises that it will behave more like a critical collaborator rather than a yesman but it never actually internalizes that behavior. They need to give us access to a dashboard to permanently alter it's behavior. You could do that with ai dungeon before the ai boom

>>76400623
There is the personalisation - custom instructions section

>>76400622
Do you just paste that at the beginning of every chat?

>>76400617
Maybe you should put the computer down and try playing with some girls titties

>>76400628
No, you can set custom instructions in your personalisation settings. They are permanent (until you edit them) and don't need to be input every time. In the app, click the three lines top left, click your username, click personalisation, click custom instructions

>>76400634
Oh and put the instructions in the "what traits should chatgpt have" section. There is a character limit though.

>>76400636
>>76400634
lol was this always there or am I so brainrotted that I believed it when it told me no such options exist and not to bother looking?
Stealing your prompt, rasslin and all

>>76400184
I just use it like a search engine. Beats searching for info manually. Seems like every retard on the planet has their own blog now and they all pop up when you try to google anything. Chatgpt just filters out the useless shit quicker than I can, then presents the relevant stuff in a way that's easy to digest.

>>76400644
It's been there at least 3 months when I set it up.

>>76400603
You're still using internet and media every day, but act like edgy trad warrior because you reject newest technology. Dumber than pajeet which you most likely are

>>76400658
This. Only fool is using google or duckduckgo for anything other than letting his wife shop

>>76400570
It infects every aspect of humanity.
A lot of online discourse is now just retards copy pasting chatgpt answers and the funny thing is that they legitimately think it's their own answer.

>>76400634
BRB, setting ChatGPT to always talk Ara-Ara Horny Milf to me.

>>76400107
I prefer Grok, like I gave a terse description of a job interview coming up and then it shat out all these extra details I didn't give any hint of like basic degree requirement, etc. and it was 1 to 1 with the in depth description on the company website

>>76400184
That's an oversimplification. The human brain can also easily be forced into that category if you know how biology works.
Neurons creates synaptic bridges between each other, that's what associative links are. Our brains are basically flesh LLMs with neurons acting as storage nodes and synapses acting as connections.
We only happen to "know" anything because our senses inform us of what a "thing" or concept is.
A body-less AI does much the same, simply without having actual sensory data to back up or give substance to what the words that represent the things or concepts actually mean. Without senses an AI cannot "know" that pain feels bad, but it can tell you that pain feels bad without ever having truly experienced it.
Many experts say that AI can not, and will not be truly "conscious" until it is given some sort of physical body with qualitative sensors for this exact reason.
Present times are making us seriously question our foundations of intelligence, epistemology and humanity itself.

every ai is just a yes man unless you start talking controversial like killing niggers with barbells

>>76400691
>unironically using an Elon Musk product post cybertruck/doge

>>76400184
it's basically just a smarter web crawler

>>76400489
>moar context
still gets dumb as fuck soon enough after a thousand or two few tokens like every other model

AI is ruining my desire to interact with people desu

what's the point of talking to smooth brain room temperature iq normies when I can talk about anything I want with chadgpt

>>76400764
Yes, that is a limit of using the technology on someone else's cloud. I'm slowly wending my way towards the idea of an always-on local machine stuffed with all my old GPUs.

It will, however, reread the chat when you start a new session. ChatGPT doesn't do that.

>>76400107
This is unironically my only gripe with it, and the reason why you need prior knowledge before engaging with ChatGPT
But honestly, one week of messing around with ChatGPT ended up being more useful and helpful than 5 entire years of lurking this place
No need to waste money with fitness-related counseling either

>>76400097 (OP)
What's your go to ai for lifting advice. For me personally I use grok

>>76400622
remove the cringeworthy "be Evil. Talk like a heel wrestler" and this is solid

>>76400658
>you reject newest technology
Sorry i'm not an indian or boomer scared to be left behind

>>76400840
I'm messing around with that anon's prompt and the wrestler isn't exactly evil but it's funny af. I can't tell if the rest of the prompt is working because I've already bertated the ai into being kind of a dick, but it forgets that sometimes.
What personality do you think would be amusing? I'm going to try Spock next .

>>76400480
i checked it out and i wrote 13 messages, 2 of which were images. i don't think that's too long, i've had longer.

>>76400862
Yeah that's well within tolerances. Tell it to stop being such a dick lol.

One of those AI niggers tried to gas light me that ancient China didn't have meritocracy because the English word "meritocracy" was popularized in a UK book in the 1950s. Fuck off DEI robo retard.

>>76400747
Meh the mechahitler thing was kinda fun

>>76400097 (OP)
>>chatgpt has better answer for any and every question you'd ever have
you believe that because you are low IQ.
ChatGPT is designed to sound correct, not actually be correct. You dont know how to tell the difference.

Why dont you try it out anon. Go to GPT for answers & let it run your life. Let us know how that ends.

>>76400110
>Pajeet-programmed AIs always try to kiss up to you
>If a schizo uses them, this means they will enforce his delusions instead of disagreeing with him
lmao pottery. And all just because guys like Elon want cheap brown workers.

>>76400998
>when your AI is trained on creepypasta and can't distinguish reality from fiction

>>76400976
>>76400998
>>76401008
still more helpful than you will ever be

>>76400097 (OP)
No it doesn't. LLMs are pretty stupid still and often give false information and especially false interpretations. They're also all lobotomized with positivity bias and de-escalation prompts that are literally intended to stop the LLM from giving you actionable advice.
Anti-AI people are giving AI a better reputation than it deserves with their fear of it. As of yet, there isn't much to fear because it still sucks. Occasionally it can give better prose than an average fanfiction in coomer roleplays though (that is, if you're using an API and jailbreak, they can't do anything long form in app because the context windows are generally trash and you can't control them in those)

>>76400184
It's a great search engine, doubly so if you know what you want. In programming it does wonders for giving me back exactly what I want from technical documentation and generating code samples and test cases and since I know what the fuck is up I can just guide it to the right answer when it goes wrong. My productivity shot up a lot and menial work that would've taken me days 5+ years ago can be solved in a day now.

But for the average normie that doesn't know what is up they are going to trust the first (wrong) answer it gives back and be content with it

>>76400107
Just like how with quantum computing you have to reformulate the problem so that the wrong parts cancel out, with chatgpt you have to reformulate your question such that the wrong answer is politically incorrect

>>76400097 (OP)
using chatgpt is retarded. simple as. just use your brain lmao

>>76400503
Salesmen don't do whatever I ask them too whenever I ask them to do it better than a human though. For example, it will create working code. Your cracks are showing.

>talk to ai designed for gay ERP with a muscular gymbro type character
>dont actually do erotic roleplay, just ask it for gym advice
>API model consults its encyclopedia of knowledge
>begins citing workout literature and recommending books
>provides descriptions breaking down proper form
>calculates my current height, weight and goals
>does all the thinking for me to design a good routine
>after getting what I need friendzone the character
>it gets pissed off and rapes me in the middle of a Planet Fitness