Thread 76403468

Is it really all about genetics, /fit/?

>>76403468 (OP)
LIfe is 90% genetics and 10% hard work (you need the right genetics to be a hardworker)

>>76403468 (OP)
more about skill

>>76403477
Hard work can be instilled in you from a young age. Similar to how religions/cults can brainwash you. Anybody excepting those born with defects can optimise their genetics and be better than 99% of everybody who doesn't.

>>76403637
Their optimum might not be as good as everybody else's optimum but it will be better than mosts average

>>76403637
Most successful humans on Earth never "worked hard". Success simply came to them naturally as a consequence of their genetics. Einstein didn't "work hard" he was simply born with a superior intelligence, and came up with all his ideas without effort. Napoleon was simply born as a military genius, he never struggled or hard to be "instilled from young age", Da Vinci never worked hard, his genetically inventive mind made everything easy for him.
You should NEVER do anything you're not talented at seriously. If you're not naturally good at something, either do it casually, for fun, without putting much stock into it, or dont do it at all.

>>76403468 (OP)
Imagine if he had kids with Brock Lesnar's daughter

>>76403468 (OP)
Yes and no. Most things are complex traits, meaning they're a product of genetic and environmental factors. Genetics take up 5% to 20%, the rest are environmental factors, including effort.
As the anon said, predisposition to hard work is genetic, but you can always force yourself to do hard work just like how someone left-handed can train to operate right-handed equipment.
However, when everyone has more or less the same environmental factors and hard work, genetics is what separates them, but that is only relevant at the top of the top level.

>>76403468 (OP)
it turns out gut microbiome is one of the greatest factors in influencing human behavior, mood and socialization
literally anything is stronger than the mind, or the "will"
maybe some kind of extreme nurture can offset genes?

>>76403468 (OP)
yes everything is, you may havethe false impression that you're doing something special but in reality you're just developing what you already have

>>76403668
> Einstein didn't "work hard"
Now you're just lying

> You should NEVER do anything you're not talented at seriously

Most of us aren't, and neither are most people in the fields you're referencing. We don't need to be Einstein to be successful, stop being a retard.

>>76403468 (OP)
Actually it's a third genetics, a third hardwork and the final third is attributed to upbringing. Upbringing includes diet and activity during childhood.

>>76403668
>Einstein didn't "work hard" he was simply born with a superior intelligence, and came up with all his ideas without effort.
Einstein was a fraud who claimed to have thought up theories previously published by German/French physicists, but yeah theft and deceit probably came naturally to him.

>>76403468 (OP)
Many people are ignoramuses, or have unfortunate backgrounds, so just by not being ignorant, that gives you an advantage over pure genetics and hard work.

You also don't know your genetics unless you put in the effort.

>>76403884
>Einstein was a fraud who claimed to have thought up theories previously published by German/French physicists,

Nope, you're full of shit. Even if antisemitism is your angle, you fail because the Nazis disavowed Einstein's theories.

Of course, the blackpill is real and you really can't do anything about it.

>>76403468 (OP)
If you include environment and how your parents raise you with genetics, then yes it's 100% about that

>>76403468 (OP)
I mean shit dude wrong genetics mean you die from leukemia at 4, i don't think you can argue that life does boil down to genetics. That you take certain actions is also defined by genetics. You wouldn't be lifting if your genetics weren't telling you to lift.

>>76403668
>olympic athletes don't actually work hard bro they don't exercise for 8 hours everyday they just jog for 15 minutes bro it comes easy to them lmao
Congratz Anon this is the least intelligent post I've read this year

>>76403919
Olympic athletes work hard but so is everyone. They win medals because of their superior genes and steroids, not because they outhardwork other people. Hard work is not a significant factor which decides who ends up winning olympic gold. You can work 3x harder than Michael Phelps, you can dedicate every second of your existence to swimming, but you will never swim like him.

>>76403926
trvke. the main determinant of a person's success in life is how early and how specifically he figures out what his best talents are. you will never excel at anything if you compete in areas that youre not naturally talented in.

>>76403668
> If you don't excel at something right away, don't try to build mastery in it!
So glad I don't have such a weak mindset. Don't get me wrong, genetics play a big role in your life. But they aren't everything, you shouldn't let them be everything. Exceptions to the rule aside, I fully believe most humans are capable of doing something with proficiency. I believe in the pursuit of progress and change for the better

>>76403958
no one gives a fuck what you believe, in hypercompetitive environments those with superior genetics win. if it's some half arsed competition environment then sure, "hard work" matters more. at the highest level of competition genetics takes priority, this is observable everywhere.

>>76403468 (OP)
>Is it really all about genetics, /fit/?
I mean, dick size literally is. Things can be unfair from the start.

>>76404009
Noble Aryans™

>>76403986
by that definition everybody but the absolute best GOAT player in a sport is wasting their time trying to compete

should everybody else in the NBA stop playing because lebron james exists?

>>76403468 (OP)
Yes

>>76403468 (OP)
>>76404013
To be a Chad you need both good nature and nurture, ie good genetics and proper nutrition, posture, and physical/mental stimulus at key development stages during growth.
For example a mother can fuck up a baby with good genes by drinking during pregnancy. A lot of things need to go right to make a Chad which is why they are so rare.

>>76403986
You clearly gave a fuck enough to respond. No shit, the genetic out liars are going to be way a head of a gen pop. That's not what I'm talking about, retard. This isn't observable everywhere. Ever heard of standard distribution? Most people are average. That's fine because most people have the potential to be better. I'm not saying we will all become even the the top 15% because that's not happening. What I am saying though is that you should at least try. Continue to seethe while I do something with my life

>>76404009
i look like this and i hate it. I look like a black person with albinism

>>76403637
Tendency to work hard is genetic. If you don't have the genetic markers you will need other methods for the results a hard worker can get. Everything is genetics

110%
I looked like this only after 6! Months btw.
Never not had abs

>>76406255
You don't look that great dude

>>76406469
Name 2 flaws
U literally can’t

>>76403668
so what, should we all just give up and do nothing because we can't effortlessly achieve greatness? You're insinuating hard work has never gotten anyone anywhere, which would be retarded to suggest. The only thing that gives life meaning is striving towards something you find meaningful, and that involves overcoming opposition via hard work. You can't actually be such a cynical fatalist as to really believe genetics are the only determining factor in one's life trajectory. The blackpill has rotted everyones brain's to shit, despite containing a modicum of truth.

>>76406478
I'll bite
>thick waist
>skinny arms
>zipper abs
>underdevelopped legs

>>76406489
>The only thing that gives life meaning is striving towards something
Ahhh the eternal mantra of the modern slave
>heh, at least I'm strooving towards...something? Just a bit of strooving more, two weeks, and I will accoomplish ...something

>>76406255
I don't know if you are the same person posting this pic over and over again. This person is not you. Stop being retarded

>>76406570
Ok, feel free to rot for the rest of your life. The rest of us will be making something of ourselves. Find meaning in your life. Or don't, it's your choice

>>76406759
>no proof
Meds, E

>>76406986
Not looking for it, but someone did a reverse image search and posted screenshots of the same pic from twitter in a thread.

>>76408582
>not looking for it
How convenient