Thread 76414139

do women really hate lean bodies or is this a PsyOp?

>>76414139 (OP)
They hate roid tranny lean. Not skinny/athletic lean

women hate the kind of body an ugly/short/bald man has
women love the kind of body a handsome/tall/tatted man has
simple as

>>76414139 (OP)
Depends on your height, shoulder width, and face.

>>76414139 (OP)
Both of these bodies are desirable to women. Some will bias more towards the left and some will bias more towards the right but no women find either of these bodies unattractive

>>76414139 (OP)
Women love tall handsome (the two things beyond your control) men everything else is accessory and/or cope

women will lick and slobber on both of these bodies. most will like both, many will like one more than the other, few will dislike either.

if you're not a turbo autist you can relate this to your own experience of how women can look good with varying amounts of body fat, typically as long as it is within a healthy range

>>76414139 (OP)
right looks like he cant walk up a flight of stairs. Left looks like a vain nigger somewhere in between is bis

>>76414186
post body

>>76414177
WRONG! read the data dumb ass nigga

>>76414194
not needed i know what im talking about

>>76414139 (OP)
not a psyop because nobody says that. Voices in your head are not what is meant by psychological operations

>>76414139 (OP)
i'm convinced none of you have actually talked to women before :/
if left had hair on his body they would consider that at dad bod, and right they would be repulsed by :p

My gf regularly tells me she doesn't want me losing weight
>you'll look skinnier than me!
But she regularly feels my abs and arse and loves it, so I think it's crab in bucket

>>76414308
>i'm convinced none of you have actually talked to women before :/
>if left had hair on his body they would consider that at dad bod, and right they would be repulsed by :p

>>76414139 (OP)
I am lean, and women seem to hate me, so I assume it's true.

>>76414143
tren skin even grosses me out and I have full-blown body dysmorphia

i dont care what women want i do whats best for me first

>>76414139 (OP)
My body looks like a shittier version of the dude on the right and I am getting compliments on my physique constantly from my co-workers and friends. I really think people just like to be supportive of their friends and that women can grow to love either lean or thick depending on personality.
The internet isn't real life fellas, this microcosm of society that is hyper focused on the male form is not indicative of the broader population's views towards bodies.
If you want female attention you need to cast a wide net. What I mean by that is to not autistically focus on improving one metric like fitness and just hope it all works out somehow, you should be reading books, doing a sport, socialising in real life regularly. In short the more you broaden your horizons the more fish you will see. Don't let people lead you down a path where "there is one solution that will fix everything", there simply isn't and anybody that claims that there is is either actively trying to sabotage you or doesn't understand how attraction works.

>>76414527
American women prefer the right because they have to like fat men due to lack of selection otherwise these days. If you want to know what is objectively attractive in a man, imagine the type of guy most straight guys would be the most likely to have sex with. Some real life anime trap cosplayer type, not some 30% bf dude with hair all over. Sure some women have a fetish for it and some men have a fetish for 600 pound landwhales but that’s not the norm. Also women conform to social trends, men tend to go against the grain.

>>76414492
atta boy. you're going to make it.

>>76414539
That's a mighty homosexual mindset you have there fella

>>76414381
Why not just bulk harder if youre gonna use so much steroids you cant just infinitely use a ton

>>76414139 (OP)
Women like money and social status

>>76414139 (OP)
the body on the right will look like a landwhale when looked from the front and in worse lighting

>>76414139 (OP)
Depends on where they're at in life
All women prefer men with a good bone structure (tall/strong jaw/forward projection/broad shoulders)
But younger women prefer more androgynous men, less body/facial hair, longer head hair, more neotenous features like clear skin, less muscle, leaner etc (think twink/ottermode)
Example: Timothée Chalamet
Older women tend to prefer more overt signs of masculinity, so overlaid on top of that aforementioned superior structure they like more mass (both muscle and fat, though a higher muscle/fat ratio is usually preferred), more body and facial hair, signs of age, maturity and experience. In this stage even a higher or slightly recessed hairline is tolerable
Example: David Gandy, Henry Cavill

>>76414139 (OP)
>lifting for several years seriously
Well at least im super duper lean

>>76414139 (OP)
Every single guy, including me, who went from the right to the left picture can assure you that women turn into rapid horndogs as long as you don't have a subpar face.
We speak of zero female interaction vs. women forcing themselves in your space and giggling like retarded schoolgirls.
You must decide if you wanna get laid or have a 550 lb deadlift.
>post pics
I look like the right one again after stuffing my face in and going full bloatlord for 3 years, I lean down for like 4 months now. And I can assure yet again that zero women show any interest towards me compared to pre covid where I looked like the left picture.

>>76414139 (OP)
I can put another 50lbs on my bench in 6mo im not cutting jew

>>76414139 (OP)
If i wanted to put on strength and mass like right what do i do? I look like some bullshit where the gains are slow but the strength comes slowly.

>>76415588
>>76415586
>only physique matters bro

>>76414139 (OP)
it triggers their instinct to feed you. i think they have some kind of genetic ancestral memory of the starvation and famine times and now they claim to prefer a higher bodyfat but you can't really go on what they say you have to watch what they actually do. plenty of women would prefer the left.

>>76414139 (OP)
Women will fuck anything even close to a healthy weight if you have your life together.
NEVER let discord trannies and /r9k/bots tell you differently. NEVER take the outstretched, bejeweled claw of these Phitness Philistines when they offer you only blackness.
If you are on this board with an honest interest and participation in fitness you are doing 20x better than the sad crab buckets who make up the majority of this board's patrons.
>but
This post is not accepting replies, feel free to tongue my perineum instead.

>>76415586
>as long as you don't have a subpar face
Every guy who is at least slightly above average in the face will get women when he is lean, simply due to more pronounced facial structure.

>>76415658
pussy is pussy bro

>>76414139 (OP)
>least flattering pic possible vs up close angle + lighting
yawn, every time

>>76414139 (OP)
I look like left but still virgin

>>76414177
>>76414156
if you have the genetic features that make you a turbochad, then yes you can do whatever and be attractive. most men are somewhere between genetic dead end and genetic chad, and that is where individual choices in grooming, fashion, and physique can actually make a difference in how much pussy you get. for some its the difference between some attention to a lot of attention. for some the difference its the difference between being a pussyless incel to at least having a salvageable sex life.
the "i cant be top 1% genetic giga chad so i guess ill rope" gets you nowhere. you can get pussy and find a partner. all of my friends who are short, bald, or ugly are in happy relationships. they aren't pulling 9/10s but they are happy.
>>76415586
>>76415588
profile sucks. women will insta swipe left on shirtless pics unless its clearly candid. makes you look like a coping fag.
>>76414590
women only like social status. money 'can' get you social status for sure and can buy you a more interesting life that women want to be a part of, but its not the fundamental thing that they like. its social status and excitement.

>>76415660
>>76415588
>>76415586
bunch of fat bitches lol!

>>76414139 (OP)
Worst thing about right is he's kinda brown

>>76415596
Eat and lift heavy retard

This whole thread is pure male gaze nonsense. What matters is your face and height, those will halo whatever build you have.

>>76415581
>Every single guy, including me, who went from the right to the left picture can assure you that women turn into rapid horndogs as long as you don't have a subpar face.
Not really, well, I'm not from the US, so I guess women in Europe are more accustomed to abs and lean men, so nobody really caresa lot about being in shape, it's a nice plus, nothing more.

>>76415658
I had more luck with women when I was fat. And the most when I was between fat and normal. Slightly chubby, maybe? But then again, I am told I am very good looking face-wise. Not that women jump me though.

>>76415741
why don’t women jump you?

>>76415748
>why don’t women jump you?
Obviously because I'm not living in muttland where such things seem to be socially acceptable for some reason. Or because these incel fantasies don't happen in reality. I don't think I ever saw a girl making the first move, neither towards me nor anyone else, no matter how good looking the guys were.

>>76414308
You have to be 18 or older to post here

>>76415760
Coping so hard

>>76415760
> I don't think I ever saw a girl making the first move, neither towards me nor anyone else

>>76415588
I would love to see that cute brown girl gargling on his bwc...

>>76415760
Western EU here, I've had girls come flirt with me right in front of my girlfriend. Are you sure you and your friends aren't below average?

>>76414156
>ugly/short/bald
hell yeah 3 out of 3 here
>tfw

>>76414139 (OP)
guy on the left is like 5'5

Women on birth control prefer left. Natural women prefer right

Left is ewww. Looks like a highschool kid

>>76414173
fuck you and your reasonable, rational answer. We don't cotton to your kind around here.

>>76416562
yeah but i bet they were haggardly and your gf is equally as mid as you are

You should be only as lean as you need to be to max your facial aesthetics. Otherwise you want to be as big as possible to look jacked in a t shirt.

The problem is most anons min max for their shirtless torso and that is not what the female gaze is as much concerned with. Though that is not universal and there are women who are obsessed with abs too.

>>76417624
>Cope
One of them had giant tits and a good body, I'll give you that she was a bit of a butterface. Another was looking fine. Others were good looking. It's surprising that it's so hard to believe anon.

>>76417624
Cope. Most girls ive dated were 7-8's. Of course theres the odd 6s.

Photofeeler is also great. I typical scored 8+

This was a business professional photo of mine. My shirtless pic scored 8.7 on attractiveness but points went much lower the smart and trustworthy category.

A third photo I had uploaded scored ~8s all around and that was a selfie from the neck up

>>76417664
You have a gf bro why even care don’t stoop to the same levels of these degenerate needy for approval faggots

>>76417654
No woman is attracted to arms lol. Otherwise fatties would be eating.

>>76417654
>You should be only as lean as you need to be to max your facial aesthetics
Even then, females don't view faces the same way males do. There's every possibility they like a little chunkiness in the face also. Male ideal =/= female ideal.

You are essentially stupid if you're a normal bodyweight yet chasing leanness as a male.

>>76417666
kek i think anybody that uses photofeeler already has self image issues and i wouldn’t trust their standards either

I think I would rather learn to quit porn and masturbation entirely than try to get a girlfriend

Of course the leanpill will score you more girls. I went for a bigger look since 2023 and the attention from women dropped significantly although I was still getting mires. You have to stay below 12% if you want to fuck. Hitting that 2pl8 bench for reps feels good but being slim feels way better. I just finished my bulk at 76kg and I will cut to 72kg and start lean bulking really slowly again.

>>76415739
Yeah but physique still matters albeit at the bottom like personality

>>76417686
Fat asses do slay provided they're tall and white

What does it mean if I can pull mid women easily but get rejected/ignored by stacies? It clearly states that I’m average right? I have good physique but I’m short

>>76417757
average in looks while short wouldn’t have an easy time with women in general so you’re at least slightly above

>>76417757
it means you're missing out

>>76414139 (OP)
I got lean, I deserve a gf

>>76417757
it means you’re not alone and most men are hard capped in the same way

>>76417871
just look like prime chico bro!!1

>>76417843
Also I live in Brazil and even getting a gf here has became inflated

>>76417895
see>>76417877

>>76417871
>hard capped

I think this is absolutely not true. At least when you are meeting women IRL and not on tinder. I have definitely met girls where its like "right place right time" where she was clearly out of my league but I was just there as she downed her fourth drink and it turns out we both have the same favorite band and wallah I am giving her the ole 5 incher

>>76417904
It's kinda crazy how high the standards are nowadays, I probably mog 90% of men in my city in Brazil and yet I have to do a shit ton of work just to land a mid girl, it's grim

>>76417877
exactly. guys like here >>76417666 are just lying to themselves and would get laughed at if they had the balls to post any proof

>>76414139 (OP)
Its not about muscle mass, its about skeletal frame.
>Also face

>>76417895
Brazilian girls are ugly unless they're full euro

>>76417909
we’re talking about Stacie’s not some bar wenches

>>76417918
At the end of the day pussy is pussy, anon. I'm not that picky and latinas have great body/ass but I feel like it shouldn't be this hard to get a freakin 6/10 gf looking like this >>76417843 maybe I'm just too autistic, I don't have any social media I should probably make an Instagram

>>76417922
are you implying stacies don't go to bars or don't fuck guys they just met

>>76417946
i’m implying i don’t trust his standards and he’s likelier putting women on a pedestal

>>76414177
>get liked by chubby 35 y/o chick on Hinge
>not attracted to her in but we share common interests and she's actually pleasant to talk to
>agree to meet up for a date because why not
>meet her for dinner
>her photos are all 5+ years old, she's actually fat as fuck and her face is visibly aged
>lets it slip she lives with her mom
>devours her entire meal before I've even finished half of mine then orders dessert while I'm still eating
>could not be less attracted to her at this point, already decided on no 2nd date
>afterwards she says something along the lines of "thank God you're actually tall, I can't stand short guys"
It's crazy how much modern women value height, and how much they think they 'deserve' a guy who's tall

>>76417871
>>76417830
>>76417821
Nvm a 18 year old cashier remembered me from 10 days ago and she smiled at me and waved and I didn’t even go inside the store. I’m a chad(lite)

>>76417967
Bro this chud is with a 9/10 so that disapproves your argument

>>76417983
Basement bodybuilding
?

>>76414186
Sheesh. Right looks like he can work all day. Left looks like a stiff wind would stall his progress. You've never been around farmers, have you? I've had my ass worked into the ground by people you think "can't do shit because they're fat." In my world, 6' and 250 is pretty normal, and any of these people can work from before dawn to midnight. Go do something in the real world.

>>76418020
quiet fatty

>>76417983
you see, my problem is that i think this is looksmatched

>>76417983
she is like a 7 who tryhards to look like a 9 which is not attractive

>>76417917
which movie is that? can't remember him with glasses

>>76414139 (OP)
How about somewhere inbetween

>>76414186
>>76418020
Left could run a marathon or do 12 rounds boxing.
>76417757
No. Even mid and fat women ignore 80% of men on Tinder. Men are slightly prettier than the women they're with, unless he's a drug dealer or beats her and cheats on her constantly.
>>76415739
Lean face is usually better.
>>76415581
Case in point, lean face.
>>180 >>173 ((Our system thinks its spam reformat)
These are pretty much true.

>>76418822
so im assuming jaw is law?

>>76418822
>Lean face is usually better.
I’m the anon you quoted and I went from being able to fuck mid and fat chicks when lean to not getting any attention at all when I got fat and lost my jawline. It’s really not fair.

>>76414139 (OP)
It’s similar to how men like thin women with perky tits and a bubble butt vs thick with a fat ass and giant tits.

>>76414139 (OP)
>do women really hate lean bodies
where the fuck did you hear that?

>>76418835
Talk to women, make advances. Also women like to see guys with women so it won't hurt to make women friends. I met a girl at a bar, went to a club with her and got other women interested in me. Ended up fucking the bar chick and another in the same night. Women are highly competitive and will want a man other women have.

>>76414139 (OP)
Jeez, I posted my pic back in 2018 and it's still being shared around. Glad my results could be an inspiration to someone though.

From my experience before (while I was ~200lb) and after that pic, women don't really care about your body that much. Just don't be fat.

>>76417096
6'0

>>76418020
>Left looks like a stiff wind would stall his progress
That body carried me trough frontlines of an actual war. Heavier guys have it harder, as you rely a lot on your endurance. I remember a mission where we running trough an open field and a russian helicopter was flying to cath us retreating. I was carrying a lot of gear on me and was getting out of breath, but pushed trough some unknown reserves. My heavier buddy fell in dirt and was ready to give up. We made it to a basement, but shit was close. I still keep my body in optimal perfomance, because I live in Eastern Europe now and have to be always ready for the next shtf.

>>76418923
Wow, that's an incredible story. Your resilience under such intense circumstances is inspiring. It really puts things into perspective about the importance of physical endurance in high-stakes situations. Thanks for sharing your experience, and it's awesome that you're still keeping yourself in top shape, especially living in a place where preparedness is key. Your journey from 2018 to now is clearly motivating others too!

>>76415586
>so I'm sorta tall
this gives women the ick

>>76414139 (OP)
They both look like shit. Terrible proportions.

>>76415588
I haven't used tinder but isn't it just a bunch of fat hoes nowadays?

>>76415588
>Recently active
No, I don't think so.

>>76418967
kek

>>76414139 (OP)
They both look like shit. Terrible proportions.
>>76417917
skeletal frame aka proportions and how everything looks together. Left is gross and skin is too thin and limbs too long lank and no thickness in body. Ugly to look. Right is fat and gross
Both have bad frames and weak energy.

>>76418955
Because he's not tall enough?

>>76418977
They both look fucking amazing lmao. Post what you think the ideal body looks like.

>>76418955
You have to understand that works on whores that were looking for hook ups anyway

>>76418981
How ugly are you or men that always mention height?

>>76417983
That thing is a 6 at best AFTER you throw her in a vat of acetone to get all that shitty makeup off and let her natural eyebrows grow.

>>76418984
Hugh Jackman, zyzz, the michael angelo statue, Arnold, GSP.

The guys in OP look bad. Guy on left is terrible. No collagen and looks like he has no hormones and energy. Guy on right looks fat and bloated. Both of them, their body language is not confident at all. That weak submissive “i am harmless” energy like picrel. But ignoring that, both of them a unattractive .

>>76417983
>this is a 9/10 according to anon

>>76419002
Most men cant see through make up and let their eyes and scarcity mindset decide for them. Almost all girls are ugly without make up.

>>76419002
yikerinos

>>76419001
>No collagen
I don't even know what that means
>he has no hormones and energy
How do you even...
>Both of them, their body language is not confident at all
Oh you're mentally ill. Should've just let me know from the beginning so that I wouldn't waste all that time talking to you.

>>76419010
>Almost all girls are ugly without make up.
Makeup can only make women look no different at best and worse at worst, but never better. I guarantee you that slut looks better with zero makeup.

>>76419018
she’d look like left without makeup

>>76419001
So drug addicts are who you think have the most ideal body
Gotcha

>>76419002
This image was pulled from a twitter thread where a bunch of frat boys were seething and asking ‘what am i doing wrong?’

>>76419014
It is a biological thing.
You need to lurk more or level up your /fit/ game.
Guy on left has no collagen at all. Skin is so thin. And you can look at a man and tell what his hormones are. Are you tellijg me you cant even look at a man and tell if he is healthy or not?
For girls, you can look at her and tell if she is fertile or healthy.
Guy on right is fat.
Youre ignortant and talking shit. lol.
Dont even know what collagen is.

>>76419032
that’s where people go to study and get a degree, right?

>>76419001
>the michael angelo statue
kek, the body on the left was specifically built to cosplay Michelangelo's David

>>76419031
She's still attractive, especially if you like that barbie bimbo look
I don't even think that guy looks like a chud either. He just has dorky glasses, and it's a bad photo because he's squinting.

>>76419040
The statue still had muscle and mass and didnt look starved and thin. Very subtle differences. You dont even know what collagen is. The statue had a core too and wasnt just thin.

>>76419040
Many subtle differences that are hard to pinpoint but put together make a drastic difference

>>76419040
Yeah, frames and skeletal structure are slightly different and makes a big difference overall. Statue is slightly wider shoulders and thicker arms (?)which ha: a drastic overall effect on a person. Dude in pic has narrow shoulders or shoulders width that doesnt look good on his height.

>>76419043
that’s a lesbian woman actually

>>76414162
This

>>76419067
This post is proof that only men are attracted to muscles
The dude on the left isn’t even lean in the body-destroying sense. He doesn’t have an unnatural body but it’s irrelevant anyway because no woman will want him if he has an ugly face

>>76419079
What?
Girls like what looks “good.”
I dont want to talk about girls. but
Girls have eyes too. Good face and wierd body is still wierd. What is wrong with you zoomers?

>>76419092
Women love dudes with good faces and dad bods so that’s irrelevant. Per example, I posted this >>76418900
Have you ever banged 2 women you met the same day, the same night? Enough said.

>>76419092
Girls like natural looking bodies (guy on the left which is what retard OP was asking).
>good face and weird body is still weird
Nope. Face (and height) is all that matters

>>76419098
Girls love the guy. Gotta have the whole package. In other words, be attractive.
> Have you ever banged 2 women you met the same day, the same night Enough said.
I could have, I spent a decade picking up girls. But as soon as we get near or back to my place, I lose interest because I live in a top 1% neighborhood and “ugh, this girl is not on this level.” I meet like 10 girls a day.

>>76419098
I have a problem with where I live. I can chill and talk with girls, but as soon as we get into my neighborhood, I lose all interest.

>>76419098
> Enough said.
It isnt enough said, dude. It is more like I have never held a job and I dont work and I will never work a day in my life. How many girls deserve to spend time with such a man in his home?
(and no, i will not go the sugar daddy way or w.e)

>>76419100
face height and shoulder width.

>>76419098
Dont enough said me. lol. You probably have no value. I am interested in girls until we get to my place. I have very expensive furniture in a top neighborhood, most girls look bad and out of place in my home bro.

>>76419137
>>76419126
>>76419111
>>76419106
Jesus Christ dude. Keep it all in one post next time.

>>76419134
A good face and height is generally going to be accompanied by a healthy natural looking body (wider shoulders so to speak) and this can only be achieved by getting adequate nutrition while going through puberty and being fully developed, no premature closing of your growth plates

>>76419153
are you the guy with an ugly wife but beautiful children?

>>76419153
Isnt the shoulder part genetic? It is the shoulders that complete the package. You dont want to be lanky and be wierd looking and coping hard online with “height is all that matters” while objectively looking bad hence the need to always mention height.

>>76417694
As usual the phony and fakers will obsess over every last detail, use filters, colour correction, maybe even use photoshop, practice multiple uploads to see what works maybe, and the nice, authentic people who decide to just give it a whirl get btfo and made feel terrible.

>>76419143
Sure. But yeah. After 2021, when the wealth gap got a lot bigger and the bottom 90% got a lot poorer, I view people and girls as lesser now. I already viewed most girls as below me pre-2020 and hated that they would be in my car or home. And now it is 2025, the gap is so much bigger.

>>76419160
Genetics factor in 50% of how you’re going to develop, tops.
If you’re punching down raw milk, raw liver and raw meat during puberty you’re going to peak. Even kids with short parents can climb over 6’ doing this.
My folks are 5’6” and I’m 6’, I didn’t eat raw meat or raw liver but I did drink a lot of raw milk and cooked red meat every day

>>76417913
Lying to myself based on other people's opinions? Where's the logic? Stay ugly

>>76414139 (OP)
I like right

>>76419153
Good height rarely comes with nice face. Height comes with “tall people face” at best. Squarish or thin or thin face. There is a sweet spot. I dont get why heighfags obsess over height (cause they look bad). Good faces come at 5’7 to 6’1. Over a certain height, you are cursed with tall people proportions which includes skull shape/size.

>>76419172
post proof retard. wait, you won’t

>>76419169
Then how come the masses and most people over 6’ dont have wide shoulders. It seems like the human body can grow very tall heightwise but the thickness and wideness of body wont grow with it.

>>76414139 (OP)
Yea most dont liek it. A few women have told me they were attracted to it at first but when actually dating a skinny fuck, they were quickly turned off by them.

>>76419186
If they’re tall and not wide shoulders then guaranteed they were malnourished their entire life, as in their parents gave them a shitty diet of unnatural foods filled with toxins

>>76419192
Cause the skinny fuck didnt look good.

>>76419195
I actually saw what he looked like and he was pretty fuckable to be honest. Like a tall cute twink. Would’ve made a great fucktoy femboy but I guess women don’t find that attractive

>>76419193
Its genetics. Loads of poor people grew up tall too. And if you look at someone and they look tall, it means they look bad.
I am 35 years old, and i only realized hugh jackman was 6’2. He never looked tall to me in movies, pics, interviews etc. Wanna know why? Cause he looked “normal.” He didnt have those wierd features most people over 6’2 start having

You know how if you put a man infront of just a white wall, you can tell if he is short, normal or tall? There is a reason for that. You want too look “good.” Not anything specific.

>>76419178
Stay ugly

>>76419203
Hugh Jackman was well nourished when he was growing as a teenager so he developed properly.
Hugh Jackman is also a drug addict

>>76419199
Or maybe he was too attractive. Girls age poorly and a month into their relationship, he still looked good or better and she looked a lot worse. Females age poorly. I browse social media and whenever I find a new 18 year old girl I find attractive, I save her pic and wait for her to hit the wall or suddenly look at lot worse. I dont have to wait long. Then I compare her most recent pic to the one I save and lol

>>76419211
Hugh Jackman is so rare that since X Men 1, I didnt know he was 6’2. That is insane and you cannot take what I said lightly. Tall people do have tall people proportion and most tall people look wierd and unattractive, just like how most men regardless of height are unattractive anyways. It just so happen /fit/ is so full of heightfags that it is impossible for everyone to look good.

>>76419221
The proportions are still majority linked to their nourishment while they were growing through puberty. There are too many lanky tall people who are unattractive because they inherited their height from their parents but spent their teenage years eating unnatural foods filled with toxins. No one is reaching their peak if they spend their growing years eating junk

>>76419211
Its genetics. Otherwise, everyone would look good and well proportioned lol. No one is starving these past 100 years.

>>76419176
Woman care more about height, that's probably the reason alot of coalburners exist

>>76419234
No, those coal burners are fucking those blacks because they are craving r-selected men. Bad boys, fuck bois etc. heigh has nothing to do with it. Otherwise all tall men would be with attractive girls according to you. But in reality, height =\= attractive.

>>76419234
No, they care about good looks and then coolness. Thats all for physical attraction. Taller than them can be a bonus if it makes you feel better.

>>76419232
>starving
Food, if you could even call it that these days, is highly accessible so yes in that respect no one is starving these days.
No one is peaking their growth if they eat the modern diet. They need raw meat, raw organs and raw milk if they want to develop to their maximum potential. They can start undoing their shit genetics if they do that. If 3-4 generations ate properly then they can completely reverse the shit genetics their great great grandparents had

>>76419253
Okay, then how come almost no one over 6’2 has the “normal” look. Hugh Jackman isnt because of his food and nutrition lol. I get what you mean about food though. Over 6’2 men lack shoulder width and body thickness and can have wierd proportions and bad faces so they always bring height into everything on /fit/ and not even in a funny way but in a cope way.

>>76419253
> the shit genetics their great great grandparents had
This part makes sense lol. blame their great great great grandparents.

>>76419234
No they care about looks.

>>76419264
Hugh Jackman ate better than 99% of people today while he was growing.
The people over 6’2” who don’t have the “normal” look as you put it were malnourished. That’s really all it boils down to.
The obsession with height isn’t totally a cope, ultimately a 5’8” person who developed properly and has a nice face will be more desirable to women than a 6’ lanklet who ate lollies, pastries and no meat while he was growing

>>76419273
Height is looks kek

>>76419292
I highly doubt Hugh Jackmen ate so well that he is the only person in my entire life I noticed out of literal millions of people I have seen online and irl that I noticed. Oh and I guess also a few months ago I saw someone on UFC who was 6’1 and 150 pounds and he looked normal too. Its all about proper ratios.

>>76419321
but height =\= looking good.

>>76419339
Then your perception of what is normal is warped. Hugh Jackmans body especially when he’s playing the Wolverine role is not normal, it’s the body of a drug addicf

>>76419345
He looked normal tho.I think he got lucky with his face/skull-size. Like there is absolutely nothing off about him. I also saw a youtube short of him a few days ago and he is off roids and he still looks normal too. It is his head/skull/face.

>>76419345
It is his head. I watched him eat wings on Hot Ones and you would never guess he is 6’2. His shoulders and everything is well proportioned.

>>76414139 (OP)
Latinas and black women=bulked
White woman and asians=cut

You know how some guys like blondes and some like brunettes and some like Asians right? Well chicks all vary like that too

>>76414139 (OP)
Youre not getting big staying lean this isnt narnia

>>76420148
>no but please if i no i refuse to not have abs
At your own leisure

>>76414162
Min shoulder width?

>>76420154
What literal nigger gatekeeps shoulder width and heavy lifting

>>76414139 (OP)
Post face and height

>>76419856
Yes some like tall and athletic blonde guys and some like tall and athletics brunette guys

>>76414139 (OP)
if your blonde with fair eyes you will score no matter the odds.

>>76415588
>Age range is <21
>Terrible bio
>Only subject matter besides muscles is a motorcycle

This is just a bad profile especially for the <21 crowd. Need various hobbies or just limit it to 1 pic.

>>76420381
its fake and ez bait for retards like you

>>76415588
Whats wrong with the first one? She looks quite nice

>>76414139 (OP)
Right could beat the shit out of left and it wouldn't even be a competition
I think that tells you everything you need to know right there

>>76414139 (OP)
the guy on the right looks much more massive.
they are more into him because he looks stronger.
no woman has ever complained about my sixpack though, they like touching it.
just realize that being either the left or the right already puts you into such a high bracket that you barely have to worry about which one women might like more anymore.

>>76415588
>fat
>fat
>fat
>fat
>fat and brown
>fat
what a grim harvest...

>>76414139 (OP)
I've looked like both. Both are attractive to women, but the right looks more attractive than the left while in clothes.

>>76415588
>13 likes
>these are your best
fucking lmfao. youngcels are cooked.

>>76414139 (OP)
I don't understand why this question comes up. Can straight guys seriously not imagine the one on the right being hotter?
>skinny, bony, veiny
vs
>heavy, strong-looking, filled-out
Fucking a guy who's lean and cut like the one on the left is like humping a trash bag full of branches.

>>76417691
>There's every possibility they like a little chunkiness in the face also
fat fingers wrote this

>>76418923
how long did you train to get to that body in OP pic? also wtf is that pic, are those bombs or washing machines

>>76420375
this is basically the body. not even counting the face since its all about body discussion.
bit skinnier and less lean is g2g.

IRL women will choose the leaner man 99 times out of 100 due to how leanness improves facial aesthetics (down to about 10-12% bodyfat. lower often makes the face look sickly).

The problem with asking women these questions is that they’re being shown disembodied torsos. Include the face and its game over.

Of course men on a forum obsessed with men’s bodybuilding is going to over-index on how important getting huge and lean is. Look at women’s behaviour in the real world. Unless they’re obese Wisconsiners, they want the lean man.

>>76414139 (OP)
Right looks like he could overpower left with one hand and rape him, that's what women get turned on by

>>76417694
Sounds like someone tried it and received the results they weren't expecting.

>its everyone's fault but mine

Photofeeler is probabaly the most objective opinion

>>76422043
women get turned on by gay sex?

>>76422047
kek sounds like you’re an insecure faggot. imagine the kind of ugly losers who spend all day rating others on that website and you calling it the most objective opinion

>>76417142
my bad, uhm it's a psyop by big tren.

>>76414139 (OP)

Taking anything women say seriously is a PsyOp.

>>76422107
Yeah. are you retarded?
>lol, what do you mean men get turned on by lesbians?

>>76414139 (OP)
left prefers right, right prefers less muscular twinks, and women prefer the tallest one.

>>76417983
looksmatched and she knows it

>>76422297
>men get turned on by lesbians?
closet homos do

>>76420458
Left knows 23 different types of Kung fu

>>76419673
One of the shit things about being bulked, but man I hate being a twink

>>76422526
I am deeply closeted then because I am fucking one

>>76418961
Fat, BPD or some combination of all three

>>76422526
explain

>>76421954
6 months or so from the Aushwitz mode. That's right after dropping 60lb in 3 months.
I'm more fat since then. Being that level of lean made my face look like I'm dying from cancer

>also wtf is that pic, are those bombs
3 types of rocket launchers. Javelin, NLAW and MIlan

>>76422687
Cool you're still around, big guy.

>>76418900
Thanks for trying, I love you faggots

Are there no foids around here? Has there been a census done maybe? I want to know actually if they prefer lean or buff/sumo.

>>76422830
They are a different kind of mentally ill and would not give good advice either.

>>76422114
And imagine the ugly losers that sulk all day and are just negative towards everyone they meet

>>76415660
I could jerk off. I want to get married. Where are the marriable women?
Only in fairy stories it seems.

>>76414308
nigger

>>76420422
if women take that twisted photo without their butt showing it's always to hide their fat waist