Thread 76426817

Something something wiki, how we doing boys? Don’t forget your cardio!

>>76426817 (OP)
read leddit r/steroids wiki before you tell us about your 250mg test and sarm cycle and how you are a hyper-responder
Fuck trtfags, sarm niggers and low test cycle zoom zooms

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>>76389762

xisters! omg! my wife's been taking flibanserin for a few months now, and she's been getting the good sleep/reduced appetite/weird dreams/improved mood effects, but, unfortunately, no enhanced libido. whatever, she's excited about it 'cause she's losing weight. anyway! i told her again i've got tirz in the garage, but she's super pin avoidant. i asked her previously if she'd want to try var, but she was sketched out by chinese bathtubs. now i went to a clinic to get a scrip for travel, and the clinic offers var! now she's interested, 'cause she'd go through a doc! i'm sure this place is a tad on the shady side, but does anyone have any tips on ensuring she'd get a scrip for var? she doesn't really have any health problems that would qualify her. she's just starting at the gym after eight years, so maybe she could lean into muscle wasting? but how can i coach her on that to where she won't feel like she's being sketchy about it? 'cause i know she's just gonna tell the doc she's fine, and just wants it for weight loss because she's too afraid to pin tirz. i reeeally want to get this right. crossing my fingers hard that she'll get the crazy libido from var. some of you may recall me bitching about no sex for three years, and i about divorced her while taking 1.5g test 1g tren. things have got worse since my last update. down to once a month now maybe, and even she's angrily said the divorce word a few times to me this year. i don't even think either of us said divorce the last two big arguments, so... that's bad she's just casually dropping it now. anyway, how to trick doc into prescribing wife var without her knowing she's tricking doc?

I had a dream that I was talking to some roid bro how his source has no test and everyone on the market has no test.

Since literally all of my dreams sooner or later came true im just warning you guys to stock up.

>>76427123
I had dream last night where I was asking CBum if I should start growth and insulin. When he started to answer I woke up to pee for the third time that night from mast.

I am looking for some experience on low dose use for long term. I have been on 300 test 300 EQ for over a year, it works great for me. For the year before that I ran 600/600, the 300/300 works just as well for half the price. I was recomended to try deca, I am not sure how it would potentially fit into that combo. I wouldn't want to drop test or EQ since I have a few years worth.

How does deca work at low doses? I was considering something like 200/200/200 of each so I am not overdoing the gear, but I don't know if the deca or EQ will be useful below 300. I'd also like to hear experiences from anyone else who does slow burn cycles like this as well.

Chink appreciation post.

Thank you to the chinks who supply us cheap gear.

>>76427598
seen people cruise 100-150'ish deca and report good joints

Cruising on 180 test and 170 primo, does that make me a trtcel/primocel? I just can't wait to blast again, but these new prices are crazy.

>>76427757
yum

>>76427067
hang on sweetie. roiding

>>76428085
gimme that clenis

>>76428140
almost done babe just a few more pins

>>76427067
not reading your copypasta or whatever this shit is faggot

>>76428278
how to shot var scrip for waifu

New to /fraud/ing. Looking into MK 677 and tirzepatide. Can I get a QRD? Anecdotes if you've used it would help a lot too.

>>76428546
mk677 is a waste of money. retatrutide is better than tirzepatide.

>>76428546
677 is eh. sema > tirz > reta. each adds something new. start with sema and work your way up, as there's a plateau with each

>>76427067
your relationship is turbofucked and she doesn't want to fuck you because she isn't attracted to you. simple as.

YWNBRM

Started my first cycle, I have MUCH more soreness after training, is that related?

>>76429565
that's pretty much where my head is at, yeah. at some point the maybe i'm asexual thing popped up, and all i could think of was the many many stories out there about oh turns out i'm a sex fiend just didnt want sex with my ex. given nothing has really changed still, it's heading that way. just hard after being together so long, and having kids. i'm living proof of don't roid for women. that's what i did, trying to get her attention. all it got me was an eating disorder, body dysmorphia, and eye fucked by high school girls

anyway, i was thinking test+mast+eq+hgh next blast, but i guess mast is kinda hit and miss now. what should i use instead? i'm 5'11", and got up to 240 last bulk, and trimmed down to 217. wanna see if i can hit 255+, and stay over 225 at 10-12% after cutting

>>76429987
Not much context here but you shouldn’t as the roids ought to be enhancing recovery, we talking muscle or joint pain? If joints probably the result of trying to up the weight to fast due to perceived strength increase, I’ve found that gear masks muscle pain for me to a good degree only notice it when I massage shit

>>76430823
Muscle soreness, joints are fine. I trained legs 3 days ago and still sore. I'll see how it goes next week.

>>76430345
What do you mean hit or miss? Also mast won’t put on huge amount of mass like your talking about, EQ would be better for that I think

>>76430832
Might just be body adjusting to increased muscle synthesis, up your magnesium and drink more water buddeh in the meantime. Aspirin as needed.

>>76430833
i haven't scoured much, but the sources i've looked through have intermittent stock, or poor quality lately. i haven't been keeping on top of it, so i keep missing out on availability

>>76430879
Yea most of the ‘trusted sources’ I have access too are saying mast/primo/var are near impossible to get atm, could just up to EQ and add some var maybe to finish off

What peptides do yall recommend. Not just for muscle growth (I'm on test)

>>76430909
i am eyeballing var, but just because.i got surgery comin up, and won't be able to lift for a bit. never really crossed my mind for finishing. kept thinkin clen tren & tirz. just fuckin scorch my shit

So it’s normal for my sweat to smell absolutely repugnant on anavar or what? Like I need to keep a 10 pack of t shirts in my car every week so I can change at work?

i aint gonna blast for a bit still, so maybe the supply thing will clear up. but what about like... 800 test, 600 eq, 500 mast, 200 deca, 8iu hgh? then last eight weeks 1000 test, 800 tren a, 600 mast, 100 deca, 8iu hgh, and asin as needed. 24 weeks, of course. high test balanced tren for me, i just cant push it for months. i hear mast balances prolactin spike from tren, so i wanna try bumping that up. i do worry about hgh a bit, and i'd say 12iu is my absolute limit i'm willing to fuck with. i just dont want to get into the diabetes and organ bullshit that you get at 20. already using a cpap, so whatever there. oh and i'll have my cholesterol, and bp meds too of course. just snort a line a day to keep the doctor away, right? lol

>>76431851
That's a nice big boy cycle. How jumungous are you to start with since you have the cpap? 245 lbs lean?

reposting from old thread:

what will 400mg test 17wk do to me if i havent been lifting for a year and a half
assuming diet and training are locked in with the cycle being an 8 weeks 500cal bulk + 8 weeks aggresive cut (-700 cal) addding anavar

is the bulk too severe? can i go even lower or will it just be a waste? im doing 17 weeeks cause i wont be able to pin later, 400mg cause im a PUSSY and dont want to risk aromatizing with 500mg at my current body fat

I'm 20% bf and going to the beach in 2 weeks, are there any strategies that will make me appear less fat?
Should I lower sodium and water to drop water weight?

redpill me on cjc 1295

>>76431951
Only peptide that has a confirmed kill in trials (at least in DAC form). Was doing great in trials until the death happened. The victim had heart issue, but pharma company erred on side of caution in case the drug caused the death and ended the trial.
>Torts/strict product liability buddeh

>>76431900
>400mg cause im a PUSSY and dont want to risk aromatizing with 500mg at my current body
That is why you take an AI if high e2 symproms flare, anon... You'll likely need AI on 400mg test. Hell, if you're a high aromatizer like me you'll need an AI on trt dosages

>>76431900
>>76431999
Also your cycle is kinda retarded. Cut first, don't cut on blast it's a waste of gear desu. And if you ARE gonna cut on blast go aggressive like 1000kcal+ deficit hell maybe even a psmf or lyle mcdonald's rfl. Anavar will likely not do whatever you're thinking it's gonna do. It adds a minor amount of anabolism and if you are lean a nice cosmetic effect, if you're thinking it'll help you cut or do anything test alone can't do then you're mistaken.

But yeah my recommendation is cut first. Save the anavar money for a glp-1. Get down to 10% bodyfat, then bulk on 500mg test (or 400mg if you really want to stick to it, likely won't really make a difference). You'll probably gain ~3-4lbs of lean tissue per month of bulking. What are you planning on after? Coming off and pcting is kinda retarded even if you don't plan on running another cycle (lol).

>>76431897
nope! i'm just retarded, and trying to kill myself. glad to hear i'm on the right track though. thx bby

>>76431897
oh sorry i realized you might have been curious about cpap weight. i'm around 220. my shit's just fucked

>>76431900
dude dont just buy test. you need ancillaries in case shit goes south. you don't want to be ordering while you feel like hell
>>76431942
diuretics. piss away as much water weight as you can. be careful

>>76431942
vodka straight no chasers

>starting bpc-157/tb-500 blend for chronic forearm tendon injury
Do you guys have any tips for subcutaneous injections on the forearm near the wrist? I can't pinch the skin up by myself with one hand and it's near the wrist where I don't feel comfortable just jabbing the needle in.
picrel is (probably) where the injury is and I want to inject a few inches above that

Thanks

>>76433307
Get a pair of needle nosed pliers. Put a rubber band around the handle. Grip your skin. Let the plier weight stretch your skin for you. Now you have a hand free to poke

Just frontloaded with over 7 mL of deca
My ass is full of oil and walking is quite painful, but we'll see how this strategy works out.

>>76433315
>needle nosed pliers
Nice idea I will try that, was trying various paper clips and couldn't get the right tension.

>>76433319
>My ass is full of oil
Now you know what brazillian bimbos feel like

>>76432800
how much ml and for how long?

>>76433428
0.5l night before should be enough

>>76433307
jury's out if on site injection is necessary. nobody says it doesn't work better, but dont sweat it if you pin inches up the the wound

>>76433421
Yeah experienced that for an hour or so
Just finished working out and no longer feel anything in glutes, but the ventroglute I used fucking hurts

>>76433307
I had a wrist injury and injected bpc157 near there with a short insulin needle without having to pinch, just need to get the angle right and avoid veins obv

Talking about bpc I have issue in my knee and my elbow should I just half dose each site or switch sites between injections or inject one wait for it to full heal then inject other?

is mk677 worth taking when i have no hormones? or should i wait for T to recover first

Currently on trt, 100 per week, my e2 is at 40 pg/mL, test levels at 800 so ratio of 20

Is there a need for me to do anything about the e2? I am worried it's a bit high but one time i took 0.25 arimidex i felt like utter crap with anxiety/insomnia

Are there any gentler methods of shaving down e2? I know tongkat ali has some aromatase inhibiting properties and maybe dropping a few bf% couldn't hurt, there are also dudes who microdose 0.5 mg of exemestane per day, has that worked for anyone?

Thanks for advice

>>76434180
adex isn't something you can really take once because it's non-suicidal. aromasin (exemestane) once in a while can do what you're looking for, but if you're not seeing any negative side effects from your e2 there's no reason to do anything about it.

>>76433550
I did abdominal injections for a hip injury. That one healed the wrist/forearm didn't, so now I'm doing it local to the wrist/forearm
>>76433899
Yeah I got a minor bruise doing it without pinching. Assuming I knicked something.

Clen is so mild. Redpill me on DNP

>>76434180
Get some dimm and lose fat

>>76434180
Good luck getting tabs that low dose, most good labs sell scored 12.5mg, so 6.25mg and since it’s so gentle compared to adex won’t crash you anyway it might drop 15% which is what you want, do that on pin days if your worried

>>76434800
All the DNP red pills died with the users unfortunately… seriously tho research that shit if you’re gonna use it

>>76434800
Retarded drug that makes your body less efficient

>>76434800
Just do a glp1 instead
Test, glp1, hgh is the holy trifecta of weight loss and cutting

Redpill me on GW501516

third week on my test mast tren cycle im sweating like a pig trying to bench and sleeping, also i got into bad arguments with friends already
the strength is good though, training twice a day sometimes

>>76435378
It’s based

>>76435171
This guy knows what's up. 3 IU of GH a day, 250 mg test & 2 mg Sema a week is golden.

>>76436032
Where/how do I get it? What dose should I take? Will I actually get cancer from this shit?

how many 40mg 5 week anavar cycles can I safely do in a year?

>>76435856
wow that sounds worth it

>>76436214
10 and 2/5

>>76430476
Dude was just out here with a 33" neck railing 15 year olds

>>76434208
>>76434879
>>76435083

Thanks for the advice frens

First step will be dim + lots of cardio for 4 weeks, then bloods, if e2 is still high I'll get exemestane and a pill cutter and I'll start on 2 x 1/8 of a tab weekly

>>76435378
It's awesome. Insane cardio gains. Makes cardio fun.
Research suggests it is carcinogenic though. Probably not an issue for people running it at normal doses for cycle lengths, but still worth considering. If it wasn't for this, it would literally be considered a wonder drug. They were calling it "exercise in a pill" when it was first being developed.

>>76435171
I'm quite literally retarded, how does using GLP1 for a cut work? I always thought fatties had to take that shit forever. How long do you take it for? Do you need to take any precautions blood sugar wise?

I just wanna know what adding it into a cut actually looks like. Shit's expensive.

>>76434129
I mean it will provide it's benefits regardless of whether or not you have T. You just may not care cause lack of T will fuck you up regardless of whether or not you have extra GH in you. I guess your sleep and appetite will improve.

>>76433307
I always thought those peptides were a health guru meme. Do they actually help with injury healing significantly? Any anecdotes?

>>76437339
Its literally a meme all it does is suppresses appetite just drink a black coffee and smoke a ciggie same effect.

>>76437339
Reduces appetite. Retatrutide can also slightly increase calorie expenditure. They're amazing if you have a huge appetite. I will likely use one every time I cut from now on. Also, they're not that expensive.

>>76427757
I miss QSC. SSA has been good to me, but Tracy loved the product. SSA are just businessmen (with female sounding email addresses).

>>76427823
Lol taking primo turned you into a spiritual boomer cheapskate. I'm still sitting on half a tranny 200mg primo kit that I got for $300. Then I'll be pissing
and moaning after I blast that.

>>76429437
Lol you pulled that out of your ass.

>>76437351
>>76434339

the acne is such a bitch
only negative point i experience -_-
not even steroid, just from test-e
wtf

>>76437339
Appetite is just the first effect, that's why if you aren't a fatty then reta is best because it's got three different effects vs sema's 1 and tirz's 2
Reta will burn fat preferentially and more fat burn than normal, the appetite suppression for it is probably the smallest of the three but it's there
Tirz has best appetite suppression and sema is the cheapest but only really does appetite suppression
Basically you can run a bigger deficit with less LBM loss with them(test, glp1, hgh) so less time spent cutting and strength lost
picrel is test, hgh and reta

>>76437878
>not even steroid, just from test-e
imagine a reaction image here

Is there an online TRT service that will also prescribe you good shit live primo or anavar? I simply do not trust black market shit

>>76429437
I agree completely. I think jumping into retatrutide is pretty retarded. Its still classified as an experimental chemical at this point. You can get ozempic for cheap as shit. Then graduate to GLP2 or 3 if its needed. If you are already on steroids and shit then ozempic should be all you need to easily cut. It kills your appetite bro thats all you need.

>>76438167
eroidsdotcom there are multiple pages to get you some actual steroids, you won't go to jail or get scammed for 400 dollars lmao

>>76438274
you fags pay with bitcoin? Seems like a huge pain in the ass

>>76438310
NTA but it takes 30 seconds these days just load up goybase or your preferred cookie cutter exchange

>>76438197
>Its still classified as an experimental chemical at this point.
you know there are multiple human trials happening/that have been done? at this point it's a matter of months before it's approved by the FDA. there's no reason to use weaker shit unless you're just poor.

>>76438310
you could do card with napsgear i guess

>>76438167

Janoshik testing is your friend. There are so many vendors competing for your business. The last thing they want to do is send out a bunk $40 vial of whatever and lose all credibility. They make so much more money selling legit stuff.

>>76437339

You can get sema for under $2.5 per MG. That's like $5 a week if you're on 2 MG per week which is plenty. You'll save more than $5 on food so you're actually making money.

>>76438386
Beyond the FDA there are just a lot more people who have been taking ozempic for like half a decade or more at this point. The safety of it is way more verified.

>there is no reason to do cocaine when meth exists

Ok Dumbass

>>76437415
>just drink a black coffee and smoke a ciggie same effect.
Lmfao no. I can tell you've never tried GLP-1's. Nothing compares to them. Everything else is straight garbage. DNP? Trash. Ephedrine and caffeine? Trash.

So test and fsh is in the gutter LH is ok. Do I try to first fix it with nolvadex or just hop on test forever?

>>76438558
I assume you're post cycle? How long ago did you get off? Yeah, use 20 nolva for like 6-8 weeks.

>>76438596
Im not, ive just been feeling like shit shit for a while now so I decided to get tested. Since technically 300 is still in normal range I wont get prescribed anything so this is the only place I can ask for a way to improve that.

>>76438636
you will get prescribed trt. There are a ton of online outfits who will give you test if you are at 300. There are also probably clinics near you who would hook you up.

>>76438672
I can just trt myself if needed but I rather keep that as last resort. So for now just try nolvadex and if no improvement after ~2 months im fucked?

>>76437343
thanks anon, then i'll probably run it now to take advantage of the decreased catabolism on a cut so i can gain on T

>>76438558
what do you mean "LH is ok"? do you have a reference to compare to? if not i'd just hop on nolva like the other anon said
FSH will rebound after enough time

how much are you fuckers spending on labs?

>>76438769
Honestly more like 4 months. And look into enclomiphene. It may be a better option.

>>76438883
$0. I've been permablasting for years and zero labs. I dose everything by feel.

>>76437326
I was also looking into AICAR which stimulates AMPK activity, but it seems like that's the kind of thing you'd have to actually continually dose up because AMPK downregulation correlates with building muscle/exercise getting easier
Seems like a more complete exercise mimetic though since AMPK appears to be more fundamental than PPAR-δ

>>76438882
Yes test and fsh is in lower range lh is in the middle. Im comparing it to ranges provided by the clinic.

Test ~300 range 280-800
Fsh 3.22 range 1.50-12.40
Lh 5.55 range 1.70-8.60

I'll look for enclomiphene as well
>>76438901
Cheers i'll order some

>>76439090
You are fine, just let your body recover
You don't need clomid/nolvadex

what speaks against taking 2ui/day HGH for the rest of your life?

>>76439102
recover from what? I never took anything

>>76439108
It will make you not live as long but you will be attractive for more of your life. Kind of a deal with the devil but not an altogether retarded one imo.

I still think you should take breaks for a couple months and let your body chill out. Might even remove all the increased risk of dying if you do that.

>>76439122
I've had bad sleep for over 15 years. tried everything to fix it. Lifestyle changes. first sleep lab came back negative. second sleep lab only revealed very slight apnea. tried cpap, didn't work. the only thing which worked was melatonin. but after half a year or so, that stopped working as well. but during that time it felt like night recovery and HGH release worked the first time in my life. so I suppose something's fucked with my hypothalamus or pgland and it will never release enough HGH naturally. and yes, my t3/t4 and any other bloodwork is normal af.

>>76438498
Even DNP? I was under the impression that DNP was the most potent, so potent that it's incredibly dangerous to use. It doesn't just suppress appetite, it significantly increases your metabolic rate.

>>76439384
That guy is big pharma shill. That shit does nothing its borderline placebo

>>76439384
DNP doesn't suppress appetite what the fuck are you talking about
It increases your metabolic rate because it makes your mitochondria 50% efficient (or lower depending on dose) instead of 99%

>>76426817 (OP)
>friend is ftm
>years of therapy and visits to make sure he was in the right headspace for surgery and such
>doctor (gp) gave him test on the followup appointment
>he rarely takes it

look, all I'm saying is that if they can walk in and get a script for it, i should be able to get one without jumping through hoops or avoiding doctorshopping laws.

>>76439488
Getting test is easy. It’s just a question of do you want to risk potentially shutting down your balls and having them never come back to baseline level production again. That’s what’s so scary. Also if it permanently ages your face or makes you bald hard

>>76439447
it doesn't directly suppress appetite but it does make you feel like fucking shit, which in turn makes me want to eat less.

don't be a faggot.

>>76439447
You’ll also die from eating carbs or someshit it basically boils the fat in your body increasing body temp so much so that even going slightly over your individual tolerance can kill you and even medical intervention can’t do shit, apparently it works tho

>>76439540
>>76439561
Why bother? Just do GLP-1a or stimulants

>>76438914
Based

>>76439567
I don’t and won’t, just do the low dose test, l-carnitine fasted cardio and exist in a deficit then maybe add some var for 8 weeks when you get down below 20% to target belly fat

>>76439567
For what tho?

>>76439584
I dunno I forget who we’re talking to

>>76439567
I'm not arguing against GLP-1s I was just saying that calling DNP "trash" and implying GLP-1s are "more effective" is retarded. DNP is technically more effective, it'll just fuck you up and potentially kill you lmao.

>>76439608
Do you know where you are
Take both and/or kys faggot

>>76439577
That's good maybe add some gh
>>76439608
>take DNP
>lose 30 pounds
>die

>take GLP-1a
>lose 20 pounds
>stay alive
>lose 20 pounds

>>76439608
DNP is trash. It doesn't raise your metabolic rate very much and it doesn't suppress appetite. You literally could just do some cardio or eat less for the same effect. It's also seriously dangerous. GLP-1's massively suppress appetite and make losing weight a breeze.

>>76439653
So glp does nothing ok thanks for admitting it.

lot of salty roiders in here. i don't understand how they can hate on GLP1s when it's pretty much the steroids of weight loss.

>>76437788
>SSA are just businessmen (with female sounding email addresses)
No. before i ordered i looked at all the contacts and picked the cutest girl to order from. you're saying i was tricked by a chinaman?

>>76437921
this is true. reta is based because it can increase bmr as well.

>>76439384
as someone who has used all of them. GLP1s are so much better than the rest imo. although you probably could combine them. having no insane carb cravings on dnp would be pretty nice.

>>76439659
>massively suppresses appetite
>nothing
Lmao why are you such an asshurt little faggot.

>>76427757
I love how fat she looks. Now if only she would double or triple it.

>>76439696
>No. before i ordered i looked at all the contacts and picked the cutest girl to order from. you're saying i was tricked by a chinaman?
Did you tell Moon her flat pan face was as beautiful as the full moon when you ordered your gear?

>>76439989
Hey just a tip this joke is funnier if you don't use the word moon twice in it. I get pissed when people unnecessarily repeat words like that.

>>76439989
yoya is my queen

Just took 1mg mtren for the first time. Let's see how I feel in an hour. Already on 250mg test, 700mg tren, 200mg EQ.

lets say I know a guy who has reached his natty limit already and potentially wants to start with some slight gear but at the same time he is working on getting an extremely meaningful science degree and doesnt want anything that will affect his brain in a bad way (so obviously not anything heavy like tren/test)
what kind of substances would be recommended? unironical answers please

>>76440135
Tren. And start fucking your professors.

>>76440135
Test is not heavy at all. There wont be any significantly negative mental sides on 500-1g test if you control AI. If anything it'll probably make you more confident. Test is absolutely required anyways, you can't do anything else without at least a small base.

If he wants to keep it slight and it's his first cycle I'd say 500 test 20 weeks 25mg Var.8 weeks.

>>76439828
>eat 2000kcal
>lose 2 pounds per week

>take glp
>eat 2000kcals
>lose 2 pounds per week

Suppressing appetite is literally nothing if you're not a nigger with 0 impulse control. So you just outed yourself as one.

>>76440135
probably just test, maybe primo or masteron. estrogen is neuroprotective, so you don't want it to go low.
>meaningful science degree
what degree? i used tren all the way through engineering school.

>>76440226
Not eating is the hardest part of cutting. Always has been always will be. Being hungry for months is shitty. GLP-1 makes it easy.
>nooo you can't just do that it's cheatinggggg
Oh like taking steroids?

>>76440236
Its not that hard lil nig stop shilling that garbage. Steroids actually have meaningful benefits.

>>76440246
>making cutting easy
>not a benefit
You're fat aren't you?

>>76440256
He's saying steroids provide an extraphysiological benefit like increasing anabolism or strength or preventing muscle wasting while GLP-1s just make something you are naturally able to do much easier. I think if it makes it easier, and then as a result there's less fatties and more fit and lean people walking around, then I don't give a fuck. I'm not attached to the suffering for the sake of it. It's not a cool rite of passage, I just want to be lean and not pissed off the entire time I'm cutting.

>>76440256
nta, honestly I don't know why people hate it either. I have seen guys lose too much muscle using it tho, no amount of test is gonna save you if you're cutting weight too quickly and can't hit your protein totals.

>>76440266
>He's saying
He's just being a butthurt twat.
>I think if it makes it easier, and then as a result there's less fatties and more fit and lean people walking around, then I don't give a fuck. I'm not attached to the suffering for the sake of it. It's not a cool rite of passage, I just want to be lean and not pissed off the entire time I'm cutting.
Yes.

>>76440267
Yes you still have to eat protein and lift as usual.

>>76440267
If you want to avoid losing lean mass you should take GH

>>76440287
From the sounds it from the few guys I knew running even eating 1500 calories was a chore. They probably used too much or were retarded.
>>76440293
Tren works just fine for me. Honestly I can't justify the GHpill, if I do it. I'll go all the way and start running insulin as well. All or nothing.

>>76440293
I think GH and GLPs have amazing synergy. Like gh can typically increase hunger and GLP removes that. The GLP counter acts the insulin issues GH causes. GH prevents the muscle wasting typical of GLPs

>>76440380
>They probably used too much or were retarded.
Yep. If you suppress your appetite too much you just use less.

>>76440410
I don't personally like seeing the facial bloat guys running GH have. I see it even with guys running lower doses.

>>76440256
Just dont open your mouth I can play rimworld for 16 hours and forget to eat, cutting is easy lil nig.

ok tren mast feels way better than just tren

>>76440562
also smoking some indica aha ha

>>76440131
Feel fine. No meme rage. Just a lot stronger.

>>76440410
This. They go together like milk and cookies.

>>76439158
It helps with sleep? My sleep used to be perfect, as I've gotten older I can still fall asleep, but I wake up at least twice and can't get back to sleep. I'm diagnosed autistic which might explain some of it. I've started taking promethazine and that allows me to get back to sleep after I take a clonadine and/or benzo
I had hormones done a while ago and my GH was fuck all. You guys thoroughly recommend? It's just so expensive and I've got little experience

>>76440562
Test prop, tren ace, mast prop, eq, anavar and winstrol. Good tier stack.

>>76440636
>It's just so expensive
If you only care about sleep MK677 or other secretagogues are worth trying (as long as you can handle the mild insulin resistance)

>>76440790
Got enough different roids in there bro? You better be a monster if you have cycles like that

>>76441679
I only do .2 mg of each injectable and 5mg var & Winston per day.

>>76439108
Isnt 1-2iu just replacing what your body makes? Do 3-4iu ed

>>76439158
went through the same. turns out my septum was turbofucked, and i straight up could not breath. fancy in house sleep study missed that somehow. did you play sportball growing up, or otherwise been knocked in the head a bunch? go get a ct scan from your neck up, and have a ent review it

>>76427067
Don't try to change a woman, even if you are successful she will resent you for it.

Just cheat on her fat ass. Make her pay all the bills if she ain't putting out.

>>76440189
unironically this. source: me. am engineer. tren definitely hit my memory. test only was an improvement. hit the gym harder, and slept better

>>76442298
Insurance cover nose surgery in this case? My nose is visably fucked and was must have been broken when I was a kid. I don’t have recollection of this but I’m pretty sure that’s what’s giving me sleep issues. I can breathe through my nose just fine all day but when I go horizontal 1 nostril always seems to get cut off

>>76434800
I've used DNP extensively twice and ran for 3 months. My advice
> Never exceed 250mg unless you want to be miserable and flirt with death.
> Low and slow is the best. You can lose about .5-1 lbs of fat a day depending on how much muscle you have.
> Best time to run it is in spring, leading into summer. Winter sucks because buildings run heat all the time and summer sucks because outside.
> Supplement with a minimum of 25mcg of t3. DNP blocks t4 to t3 conversion so after 3ish weeks the drug will stop working
> DNP will give you cravings like you've never had before. Couple the prior two drugs I mentioned with a glp1 agonist and you will have zero cravings while losing weight. Start with semaglutide, then tirz, and finish with reta as you will have to continuously update doses because your body will move down weight quickly.
> When you come off of DNP, maintain your existing weight with glp1 agonists for a minimum of 3 months so you lock in your fat loss. If you don't, you get rebound cravings that are a bitch

>>76440790
>>76441679
xhe forgot the gh & slin though

>>76437339
They change your body's weight setpoint down which reduces your appetite. So if natty you are 205 and take 5mg of semaglutide and your body wants to be at 190, you will have no appetite until that weight is achieved. The suppression will disappear. To continue losing weight you increase the dose.

>>76439696
>lot of salty roiders in here. i don't understand how they can hate on GLP1s when it's pretty much the steroids of weight loss.
Agreed. It's funny you'll see roiders who shoot up 4 androgens hate on stacking weight loss drugs.

>>76442310
have done that in the past, but not worth the effort now. relationship's probably at an end soon anyway :/
>>76442320
i hit my deductible pretty fuckin fast, so, yeah, covered. my nose looked normal at a high level. even the ent said it looked like i had a slight deviation. that ct though... fucker took a hard right. clinically diagnosed severe deviation. same -- one side collapses when i slept. havin nostril plugged is not normal. taking deep breaths and one closing up is not normal. one nostril looking more open than the other is not normal

>>76431237
I got a bottle of anavar just staring at me. I can't start it yet because I am having trouble detoxing from alcohol.

Fucking hell bros. I want to be 100% sober for a week before starting but I can't even do that. I keep having a cheeky beer or two in the evenings.

>>76442310
I don't think you should directly try to change a woman, but if you are strong willed and exude masculine energy they will change themselves to meet your standards and desires without resenting you. If you need to directly force them to change, that means they don't actually want to change for you and will certainly hate you over time. Which I guess doesn't really matter since she doesn't really love you if she isn't changing for you, so who cares. Go ahead and "cheat on her fat ass" like you said.

If you guys went to the point of roiding why not go full PSL fraudgod with LL, facebones shit and clavicular lenghtening? Or is that too expensive 4u? Oh yeah I forgot d lenghtening. Mods/jannies don't ban me this is a serious question I'm not trolling. I mean if you're going to permanently shorten your lifespan at least go full turbo yknow?

>>76440135
Post natty body. Just increase your creatine intake. son you probably have more natty gains to go.

>>76442369
talkin to the wroooooooong anon. dinner last night was an one old fashioned.... that i topped off until i passed out. i also do not have the healthiest of habits.

>>76442434
you're a retarded lookmaxxing zoomer. We just want big muscles.

>>76442495
Oh! Look at the mouth on this one! First of all nobody calls me retarded I have a mensa level IQ ¦¦ second of all bone frauding doesn't seem like that big of a deal after you've blasted Tren and whatever other Malaysian chemicals you've injected.

>>76442536
My face looks great my body not so much simple as

>>76442434
I started training my neck since that's a great way to increase your face score. Look it up it's science it aligns your bones and muscles so can achieve chadlite status. Roids do help but as does doing surjairy. Sadly we're all brokies here so it's gonna be botched

>>76442593
You're probably the first case in the world of someone with a great face wanting to roidbog out and turn into a Nasty beast. Don't women literally not care about the muscles if your face is "great".

No one roids for women. 99% of them prefer non-roided physiques.

>>76442434
Type out the full words zoomie fucking shit I don’t know all these acronyms.

Also all the bone changes you are talking about are for underage retards who hop on gear. The average 28 year old anon is not going to change his face bones with any amount of gear

>>76442651
I do not concern myself with women's opinions

>>76442710
Girls love roided bodies.

>>76442991
lil bro probably thinks all his favourite fitness youtubers are natty don't shatter his worldview

>>76442369
Finishing first month no alcohol I told myself no pinning until I fix that shit. Was drinking every day.

>>76442710
What a natty cope. That's like saying women don't give a shit about height.

>>76438389
Brilliant! I really don't like using crypto to buy.

>>76442369
Eat a 10 mg weed gummy when you get the peak booze cravings which for me was 30 mins before liquor store closed, and have a cup of tea… best I can offer
>t. 12 months booze free.

>>76442367
>relationship's probably at an end soon anyway :/
Same boat. What really sucks is the dating landscape we will be getting into is fuuuuucked. I'm doing roids in the hopes they will make me attracted to dudes.

>>76442419
In the world of the past, yes. This is dogshit clownworld were living in though.

>>76443097
I'm keeping it to the weekends thankfully. Here and there I'll have a glass of wine with dinner without even thinking about it though.

Where do you guys buy your BAC water? Im going to start Reta but I'm way too new to this shit.

>>76444316
Anywhere. Whereever you buy your needles from will probably also sell BAC too. GPZ med works fine. Buy in bulk, they keep for years and sometimes there's random interruptions that last a couple months.

>>76444647
>Buy in bulk
I don’t want to bulk I’m just trying to recomp with this cycle

Anyone here ever do a shorter blast with short esters? Was thinking of running a ~6 week blast or so in the winter with test prop and npp. I'm aware it's not optimal, but I'm more or less happy with my physique and only want to blast again really to bring up a couple weak points. Life is getting busy so remaining locked in for 3-4 months just ain't realistic for me right now and I usually run very long esters and waiting for them to clear is getting annoying and I want to shake it up.

>>76444986
Why are you hemming and hawing over this if you already know the answer? If you're cool with getting slightly above trt gains go for it. There's not really any physiological downside.

My 2 cents is you'd be better of just sticking with a cruise and working out on your schedule. Even if you did make any real gains in 6 weeks you still have to workout a lot to keep them. No shame in working out 4 times a week and eating right with some trt plus.

As far as the cutting stack GLP-1a+T+GH goes, why not replace trt with hCG+AI?

>>76445078
because that would be retarded. Just get some ozempic bro

>>76445078
You can just throw GH or GH stimulating peptides in with your retatrutide because the body does not aggressively convert and downregulate shit in the way that it does with sex hormones. Like you could blast GH and then stop one day and expect your GH levels to normalize and you don't have to deal with any post cycle shit or anything. The body doesn't just let you get a free ride with testosterone. Basically every attempt to boost test without doing a full cycle is just going to fail due to downregulation. HCG for example, you don't want to desenstize your nuts to HCG. That would be a disaster and it does happen. AIs are also bad for you and literally can be neurotoxic and you definitely don't want to fuck with it unless you need to ward off estogen sides.

t. a retard who has never used steroids

>>76445114
Is there proof of hCG deregulation? Point about AI noted though

>>76445117
yeah its well known. Google said "sometimes resenstiziation occurs" which is fucking scary that its not always.

>>76445128
>yeah its well known
Can you post some studies or give any pointers? This is the first I've heard of it

>>76445130
google it faggot

>>76445132
Sorry not finding anything good on Google Scholar, do point me to it

>>76445114
>Basically every attempt to boost test without doing a full cycle is just going to fail due to downregulation.

What do you mean by “full cycle”? are you implying trt isn’t effective? i know down regulation does occur on trt doses, but it takes a long ass time and doesn’t require massive titrations to get back to ideal blood levels

>>76445319
No I’m saying trt is effective, I’m saying trying to boost your test through anything like hcg or clomid or pre hormones or sarms is not going to give you the risk free gains you want. There is no free lunch you have to shut your balls down and risk fertility problems and all the other sides.

>>76445335
>There is no free lunch you have to shut your balls down and risk fertility problems and all the other sides.
kek
prove it

>>76426817 (OP)
WHY IS TENNIS MOOT SO DYEL IF ROIDS WORK SO WELL!?

>>76445335
I'm saying this board is str8 pharmacology skill issues, probably can't even cure their clomid eye floaters with enzymes. The "free lunch" is scattered in little piece of bio-moonrunes on PubMed.

>>76444257
oh god right? i'm terrified of the dating pool. it's just.... people are so bad. i'm at the age where maybe i can find some decent divorcees, but... oof. good luck, xister!

>>76444986
i... no? guess you could do tren a for 8 weeks, or var. six weeks test is just a lousy idea. that's just when your body adapts to the higher test. at very very least do 12, so you cam adapt, and build some new muscle. but, yeah 20-24 my dude

>>76445143
don't listen to her. permanent leydig desensitization is meme. hcg monotherapy for hypogonadism is a thing, it's studied, and they'll be taking 3000iu ed/eod. this permament shutdown thing is nonsense. the supporting study is a 40 year old one off (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC349028/ ), and every other study is injecting in utero. even if it does happen, so what? b&c and shoot blanks

>>76445485
>monotherapy
Code word for PHARMACOLOGY SKILL ISSUES.

>>76445485
You're going to grow titties from the hcg estrogen, you can't kill it with ai
Just inject test, niggermon

>>76445570
yeah. nah, i didnt mean to promote hcg for test, or any other dumbass ohwhatabouts going on here. 100% just take test. i'm more annoyed with this constant dont take more than 700iu hcg a week or you'll permafuck yourself nonsense. if desensitization was a thing, we'd hear first hand anecdotes about it constantly

>>76445654
I wasn’t trying to say hcg is going to kill your balls forever just that you should theoretically have to deal with a period of desensitization and lowered natural test if you plan to discontinue use.

I want to chisel my face out some to counteract a bit of bloat I got from my bulking. Does Jawsersizer or however it's spelled work? Does it hit the upper areas of the face like cheek bones?

I'm asking here because since I'm on gear something gimmicky that to a normal person would show little results might show great results to us.

>>76446334
ah yup! agreed

>>76445009
Mostly just want validation I guess. I'm intrigued about the idea of using more gear for a shorter duration with short esters, get in and get out y'know. Obviously not gonna be optimal, but kinda want to experiment. You're probably right though. My schedule isn't entirely demanding I just know the amount of time I can focus predominantly on the gym and recovery is gonna be like ~6 weeks at any given time. Still working out 4-5 days a week but not going as hard as I'd like. I'd be happy gaining just 2lbs of muscle over those 6 weeks though, I'm satisfied with the amount of muscle I have just need to bring up a couple week points.
>>76445470
Was probably gonna run test and npp, maybe some bold cyp. My intention was to use test prop and short esters of anabolics to get in and get out quick.

>>76446695
well while the short esthers can reach saturation faster it still doesn't mean your body responds to them, right? even tren ace is gonna take a month to see results, and that's weight first, and muscle at six weeks. can you squeeze out 12? 14? there's a dude on plebbit that kept good logs on his 14 week tren a test p trip, and had good results:

Start (Sept 2018) 95.8 kg/211 lbs 17.2% (15.8 kg/34.8 lbs) fat 76.2 kg/168 lbs fat-free mass

End (Dec 2018) 102.6 kg/226 lbs 12.3% (12,1 kg/26.6 lbs) fat 86.5 kg/190.7 lbs fat-free mass

a9fa6z/cycle_report_first_time_trentest_user_14_weeks/

>>76446504
Lower your test to like 250mg, or even less. As well as stopping or lowering watery compounds like deca. Then cut fat. These are the only things that work.

Why didn't you fucking faggots tell me about the worst cystic acne I would have since the age of 16 during my pct?
I was always prone to ugly acne, but now I look like a fucking dalmatian with ugly bulging lumps all over my face, I look like a fucking leprosy patient

Fuck fucking gear and fuck you all (I will do it again)

>>76447089
Acne is skill issue

>>76447089
Just take fin/dut nigga

>>76447089
Accutane.

>>76447116
>>76447128
>prescription drugs
There's no way I will get anything of that in my country
They will just say "fix your diet LMAOOOO"

>>76447182
and they will be right

>>76447182
>going to jew doctor for drugs
>/fraud/
kwab

>>76447282
I'm sorry, but the place where I get the ugl gear doesn't sell skin condition treatment drugs

>>76447182
>>76447344
How new are you? You buy it from india from sellers you find in the same places you find sellers for gear.

Alright real talk, what do you guys do about the night boners, I’m fucking rock hard all night, pretty much as soon as I fall asleep to morning and now my dick is hanging loose all day, shit grew an inch tho which is a plus, it’s starting to impact my sleep tho… fuck I love /fraud/ing

>>76448198
Nothing. Just wear sweatpants and have fully legal 18 year old thots gawk.

>>76448198
>complaining about a good thing

Gooning on low E is a fucking trip

>>76448556
Explain

>>76448885
My dick doesn't get fully hard when I cum so even after ejaculating once I still feel horny and want to keep jerking
Then the muscles pulse and I pseudo-ejaculate like 5 more times, it's very tiring but definitely a lot more drawn out than normal

>>76448556
I keep my e2 in lower range and I'm running. Honestly I just feel like the Terminator and I don't even think about jerking off if I have a steady girl.

When I ran test only I remember gooning non stop, you see a titty in a picture and it's game over.

Should I blast at 40 or give up? I'm at the age where you push hard to: 1. Get injured 2. Decline

>>76448962
When I say low I mean probably near zero, don't have the tests to point to a number tho

>>76448962
Call me a faggot but I dont care about blondes that much I see them every day. I need a brunette

It has been a long time coming

>>76448973
All 40+ guys at my gym are on "trt" so probably not blast but just cruise on 200mg

>>76447089
i did my cycle 2 years ago and i am still suffering from it, i cant even do a 2nd cycle because im afraid my skin is too sensitive. i do believe that its the PCT that wrecked my skin.
i rly hope you get well and you dont have to give up lifting like i had to (no point in lifting if you cant remove your shirt anymore without wanting to die)

>>76448973
i'm 40. i'm blasting and cruising. there's a bunch of us on here doing the same. just get blood tests regularly

>>76450632
birth certificate please
i dont believe you can be that old on 4chan

>>76426817 (OP)
Muscular drug dealer

>>76447089
>doing pct
>current year
top kek

>>76450663
i.... you realize this site is old enough to drink in the US, right? some of us faggots have been here a long time

>>76450817
yes but people quit 4chan when they get a job or finish school i presume, a 40 year old man has better thing to do than to come here

>>76450832
oh you sweet summer child average age on some boards is in 40s

The 4000 page tracy thread on meso says tracy is back on telegram.

>>76438392
>There are so many vendors competing for your business. The last thing they want to do is send out a bunk $40 vial of whatever and lose all credibility. They make so much more money selling legit stuff.
Maybe not a complete scam but underdosed or atleast hits different from pharma. 550mg of pharma test left my test levels almost 30% higher than 750mg of ugl test and 500mg primo. I think it was real primo though since my estrogen levels were nice and low. 25mg of pharma anavar always works great for me, but ive run 50mg of it before. Havent tried it ugl before, but I hear its commonly faked. Source was the top USA ugl with the acronym PA.

>>76450913
If its correctly dosed, there is no difference between ugl and "pharma". Pharma test is the same molecule as ugl test. You're not getting some premium or improved version.
And peak vs trough blood tests can vary greatly so you are likely just retarded.

>>76450969
>If its correctly dosed, there is no difference between ugl and "pharma". Pharma test is the same molecule as ugl test. You're not getting some premium or improved version.
No shit, read my post.
>Maybe not a complete scam but underdosed

>And peak vs trough blood tests can vary greatly so you are likely just retarded.
Everyone knows that. Got my bloods done the day after injection with both the pharma and ugl.

>>76450913
Yeah right nigger. I used to get empower test I got through a clinic and then switched to ugl when I realized I was a dumb ass. My total test and multiplier at different levels has been very consistent.

Just say the name. Everyone else does. PA doesn't mean shit. Don't doing the boomer I've been here for years shtick. No one cares, even if it's not a lie. Only chinks and kit jew are nationally famous anymore.

>>76451179
It was Pure Anabolics. Not sure why youre having such an emotional reaction lmao. Im sure your ugl is fine.

is there a way to decrease the number of adipocytes after childhood?
if anyone would know about any experimental stuff for this it's you /fraud/ niggas

>>76451199
Lol back when I was still trying to defend paying for pharma I would wilt too when I got called out. Memories.

>>76451442
Cryolipolysis

>>76451450
any drugs?

>>76451446
How did I wilt? You asked me questions and I answered them. You good? If you really prefer UGL and its so great, give the name of where you buy it and Ill try it. You asked which I used and I named it and gave my experience with them and how I handled my blood work.

Am i retarded I thought everything is pharma it just comes from countries where roids are legal? You guys actually buy no name shit cooked in some basement?

>>76451458
I've bought test from off the top of my head
>qsc
>muscle candy
>sha
>Azteca
>kit4less
>ssa

And I get my bloods done fairly often. Never had any difference from empower.

>>76451468
>buy no name shit cooked in some basement
Kitchen, but yeah.

>>76451565
Thanks Ill give it a try next cycle. Still have enough pharma banked up to finish this cycle from when I ran ugl. Should be done in about 7 more weeks then im cruising for a few months. If you had to recommend one or two of those sources, which would it be?

Any roids to increase my dick size?

>>76451565
Why? That shit is already dirty cheap what are you saving buying some random garbage?

>>76451637
>do test
>lifting in my home gym doing squats
>start thinking about girls sitting on my face and asses to lift higher reps
>get on /fit/ to look at asses
>finish squats and immediately run to my bed and start beating my meat and searching big huge asses
>blow my load and move on to lunges like nothing happens

Anyone else get insatiable urges while lifting and on test?

>>76451637
1) pharma test is like 2-3x the price of ugl test
2) pharma stuff is incredibly limited, because it's limited to things that are actually prescribed. you're not getting pharma tren (maybe vet tren hex, lmao) so you're gonna have to go to ugls for shit anyway
3) it's literally the same quality
4) pharma often comes from overseas (turkey and india being the big two) so you have to deal with customs: longer shipping times and risk of your shit getting seized vs basically amazon prime overnight shipping

>>76451669
I used to do that natty in my 20s...

>>76451674
how much do you pay? There are european pharmas as well. Test is like $20 a vial no way you pay ~$7

>>76451678
Same. Needless to say they sounded the lunk alarm at planet fitness and tried to make me pay for a new bench, something about I contaminated it

God you guys have no idea how good beer tastes after months of abstinence

>>76451684
$20 a vial is ugl price, you're not getting pharma test for $20 unless you're counting getting it through your insurance for some reason.

tbf you can get to $7 if you brew it yourself from the raws, but why would you

>>76451712
For me it's a nice Finnish Long Drink and Cigar for my cheat buzz.

>>76451722
How about i finnish your long and then drink if you catch my drift

>>76451728
I don't catch your drift at all. Explain and possible send me videos of what you're trying to imply.

>>76451751
I meant that I will blow you and then swallow

>>76451757
Wait so you'll blow me and then I swallow my own cum? How nice of you to let me keep my own protein. We need more users like you.

>>76451763
Nooooo I wanted your protein

Got my reta in but it wasn't cold. Should I store it in my fridge? I'm not sure what to do if it wasn't store cold from the start.

>>76451798
"got it" how, already reconstituted? that would be very strange. lyophilized powder can be stored in the fridge/freezer for up to a year and it's okay if it's out of the cold (i.e. during shipping).

reconstituted peptides go in the fridge, good for a few months at the most.

>>76448973
Yes absolutely, you wont regret it just as other anons say start with the basic test cycle and get bloods, monitor BP, figure out your E2 needs whether thru trial and error or actual bloodwork and enjoy. They’ll be some transient changes like a month or two of elevated BP and maybe some hair shedding but once your body adapts to being high T that all went away for me, then you can bring the dose down to cruise and add more stuff (EQ, Mast, var etc gl finding primo atm) and mog your gym. Unless you’re body doesn’t like /fraud/ing and every problem has a solution anyway and once you relax over time the whole thing shits cash.

>>76426817 (OP)
I will probably get laughed out of here but I can't see a better thread to ask this.

I've been fairly inconsistent at the gym and I know that fixing this will give me the best long term benefits, but I also have about a month before my classes start again and I was thinking maybe some sort of meme natty+ shit might give me the additional motivation and push to be consistent for a month before school starts giving me a good base to work on in the school year. I know I can't achieve much in a month especially if I don't want to actually fraud but is there anything that could work for this and not require any sort of PCT?

I was honestly considering ecdysterone but idk

>>76450832
See ya tomorrow faggot

>>76450832
Nothing wrong with old people here.
What's sad is all you losers spending the best years of your life on 4chan (teens and 20's) posting frogs when you should be out having fun, meeting girls etc.
Pathetic

>>76451839
Dianabol

>>76451722
if you like long drink try getting your hands on some hartwall long drink

>>76451822
Just the power form of Reta, 10 mg. It can in through the mail. I Have to wait another weak for the BAC water to recon it.

>>76451839
Unless you're actually frauding you will need to have real mental effort to do things, because it's not like lifting is going to get any easier once you stop your "natty+" drugs.
You can try ecdy or clen or whatever other shit but you will have to be able to work out without it eventually.

>>76450832
i did fuck off for a bit, but the rest of the web is so toxic these days. much better here with all the unfiltered cross gendered special education students, like myself

>>76450892
omg omg omg it's happeniiiiiiing! i hope they honor their credits, 'cause i'm gonna order me a decade's worth of pge1 to inject into my dick

>>76451776
brotein fight!

NO ONE HAS ANAVAR. THE TOP US SELLERS ON EROIDS ARE OUT OF STOCK. AHHHHHHHHHH!!!

>>76452408
Site I use has tons of it. Not gonna tell you which though because that'd be source talk :^)

>>76452408
>>76452424
Wait is no source talk even a rule anymore? One guy namedropped eroids and the other posted a screenshot of steroidify with the thumbnail clearly in it.

>>76452438
You can't buy gear from eroids, it's a review site

>>76452445
Honestly who fucking cares at this point. We're at bump limit as of this post.

>>76452438
Today I learned /fraud/ overpays for gear

>>76451837
Not him, but I’ve been buying pharma reta pens from the UK. Can't say they’re any better than ugl if I’m being honest tho

>>76452471
I buy from a guy on telegram that ships same day and charges chink prices+20% or so. He’s like my gear concierge.

If I'm on trt for years and my natural t production shuts down, will my primary care doc give me pharma grade test? Do I need to come off, have my levels go to shit, and do bloodwork when they're low, or can I just tell him?

>>76452573
How old are you? It's very likely you can just do PCT

>>76452606
I plan on being on trt for life. I want a script to save money and get better quality test.

what's with these trt niggers and their fancy pharma pajeet test

>>76452819
ESL?

>>76452834
ESL deez nuts, rajesh

>>76440790

does beauty like this even exist in the world anymore?

>>76451822
me still using my vial of mt2 from 2 months ago that's been sitting in my room the entire time

>>76452516
>pharma reta
you know this drug is still in trials? there is no pharma version of it for sale.

>>76452471
on god everyone shills eroids and the tacky nice looking distributor sites on there. you should be buying from some shittily put together mess with 3 jpegs of jacked guys thrown on the home page. real ugls where you know its a group of 5 chinks just slave driving that shit out for me. cheap as fuck.

international or bust, ill never pay domestic prices.

>>76452122
I fully understand, I may or may not actually fraud at some point later as well. Right now I just want a tiny performance boost to sort of jump start me, I guess.

What's a good source for ecdy? We can discuss that here, right? It's just classified as a supplement after all.

>>76453264
Rid yourself of excuses like "oh it's just a jump start", for starters. That's utter cope. If you're going to fraud, then fraud.
The only place to get actual ecdy is from Chinese chemical suppliers. Good luck.

>>76453265
I'm not going to actually fraud immediately before I've evenf been working out consistently, but I will take some meme shit first

>>76453269
It's not meme. And if it were meme, you have no reason to waste your money.

>>76453206
You gotta refilter your oil if you buy international. Chinks always leave floaters or dirt inside the vials.

>>76447089 (Me)
>>76447128
>>76447182 (Me)
Nvm. I just found another prescription drug with isotretinoin in an online store (same as accutane). It's not even ugl, it's literally pharma grade and available without a prescription. The seller is a retard, but I already ordered it, bebebe
>>76450301
There's no way I'm giving up. After lifting for years and spending money on gear, I'm not going to stop doing it. No way. Even if I end up looking like a medieval leper quasimodo, I'll continue. Yeah, I'll be ugly as hell, but at least I'll be swole. I even ordered a chinkese torture device (picrelated) after watching a youtube video about forearm training. I'm not complaining about my grip strength, and I never considered dedicated forearm training. However, I learned that you can literally hammer your forearms every day without any issues. AND I can do it while watching youtube on my pc. Sounds too good to pass up

cumon guys how are you supposed to shoot up a load of this when you get high af on benzos and can't hold the needle straight, by my calculations I have a 1" gash inside of me from needle drift