This shit is poison for the human body.
>stop eating sugar
>reduce carbs by 50%
>instantly get from 15% bf to 12% in a matter of 2-3 weeks

>>76446633 (OP)
>health experts call it poison
>your brain needs it to survive

>>76446643
Post proof.
Pro-tip you cunt.

Maybe, im more of the opinion that many products have double the amount of sugar that's needed. Lower that and you can still enjoy delicious food without being detremental to health

>>76446658
>body undergoes gluconeogenesis if sugar not provided
>health experts say the body doesnt need sugar

>>76446665
I just drink black coffee now, literally same benefits without the sugar raping ur gains and bloating you

Depends on the person and the carb source and how ur body

I can eat sugar based carbs and I get leaner

If I eat non-sugar based carbs I get noticeably bloated and fatter

I can eat as much sugar sweets as I want and I’ll wake up leaner and vascular… but if I eat pasta / rice I’ll wake up bloated and watery

Skill issue.

Sugar is medicine. You don't take pounds of antibiotics at a time. You don't drink gallons of chemotherapy if you have cancer. You can use sugar to fuel mass expenditure of energy, i.e. running a long race or riding a bicycle for distance, but it is inappropriate for sedentary people.

>>76446658
>google "long term effects of ketosis"
>take your pick
Notice how they always say "low carb" because "no carb" would be fucking retarded. almost as if to imply you'd need some carbs.

>>76446675
>Body makes itself, that means you need to suck down 100lbs of it a day!!!!
Fuck off cunt.

>>76446721
>body makes glucose if its not provided
>health experts say your body doesnt need it despite your body needing to make it

>>76446721
>100lbs of sugar
Its either nothing or death for you huh? Shouldnt you be doing something productive right now instead of wasting time?

>>76446697
It’s essential impossible to eat zero carbs. Living things (which become food) have carb stores.

>>76446633 (OP)
The sugar vs fats debate is retarded. They are both easy-to-consume energy sources that are eaten in excess on the Standard American Diet. Eliminating either one reduces the hyperpalatability of modern goyslop.
I am probably in the bottom 10-20% of the population for sugar intake, but that doesn’t mean it’s poison. CICO always applies. I usually place my sugars (mostly fruit) before/during exercise.

>>76446643
Read a book

>>76446756
Wrong. Sugar is poison you cunt. Fuck off

Niggas on this board will do fucking ANYTHING except eat a balanced diet and lift

>>76446633 (OP)
Retard
Sugar/carbs are the most efficient energy source for the body

I've been greatly losing weight on a 80/10/10 diet

>>76446633 (OP)
>lose water weight
>progress slows
>no energy
>binge eat for a week
>gain it all back
>got no gains because you had no energy to do anything
>repeat
keep spinning your wheels bud

>>76446633 (OP)
Not poison but drug. You need it but magnitude less than usual today. The amount you need can get from fruits.

>>76446658

>>76447713
Is cellular respiration thermodynamics?

>>76446675
The brain runs on ketones when ketones are in the bloodstream. Gluconeogenesis is not done for the brain.

>>76448592
Lying nigger award
Ketosis only occurs when gluconeogenesis is unable to provide sufficient glucose for the brain. In fact ketosis will occur for other tissues before the brain since the brain runs more efficiently on glucose and is the first priority.

>>76446643
Shill spotted
>>76446675
Brain runs better on ketones. You lose again, candy sucking insect

>>76448711
Now this is cope

>>76448738
Where's the cope?

>>76446633 (OP)
>starve your body of esential nutrients
>lose weight
Holy shit. Could not believe my eyes.

Added sugar on pretty much all food you can get outside, yes, especially if you're sedentary. It's too much

If you do a lot of activity and don't eat ungodly amounts, it's good

>>76448872
there are no essential carbohydrates. only fats and proteins

>>76448967
Ironic shitposting is even worse than regular shitposting. You're turning into a bigger faggot by the second.

>>76448983
concession accepted

>>76447666
It's been the other way around for me, when I was doing a diet with even a lil bit of sugar in it I'd be craving sweets all day, same for high carb. This is the lowest weight I've been in years and I haven't binge eaten in a full month now

>>76446633 (OP)
Demonizing sugar and carbs is retarded, you just ate too much of them

>>76447717
Everything is thermodynamics. That's just the fancy name of the circle of energy (thermo=heat=energy, dynamics=movement=circle - in closed system)

In my experience it's the refined/added sugars that are the real pieces of shit.
>start bulking including a sweets binge eating all sorts of baked shit w/ tons of sugar
>gain weight but most of it's fat
>develop a fucking double chin
>fuck off with sweets for a month
>lose weight and fat quick
>double chin goes away
And that's for a 5'10" 180lbs manlet. Overloading on sugar is literally the quickest way to get fat and look like shit.

>>76448592
>The brain runs on ketones when ketones are in the bloodstream
The brain never runs exclusively on ketones, ever.
Even after weeks of fasting which puts you in complete ketosis the brain runs on like 40% glucose, the ketones are there as a last resort to avoid organ failure by lowering glucose requirements and consumption rates but it never gets rid of the glucose demand. All life needs glucose.
GNC is not done by the brain but by your liver and your CNS detects blood sugar fluctuations and signs of stress and reacts accordingly.

>>76448967
The only essential fats are omega 3 and omega 6 fatty acids which you are definitely eating in tiny amounts anyway.

>>76446756
This is correct. The real problem is hyperpalatability of sugar+fat combo, and the inflammation it brings.

>>76449690
The baked shit also has tons of fat, and most of the calories in there come from fat. Most of the store sweets are 50/50 fat/sugar. I'm losing fat on high carb + added sugar, with only fat coming from a serving of fatty fish. High carb is goat for working out and weightloss.

>>76446633 (OP)
Processed sugar, not all sugar.
Sugar is naturally occurring in things like fruit, it isn't bad by itself, it's all the ultra-processed and refined sugars that are crap for you.

>>76449690
this
sugar is fine in apples and such because its absorbed slowly

added sugars are poison that spike the shit out of your blood sugar