Thread 76458289

>but muh big pharma sponsored "science" tells me otherwise
>but the youtubeer(s) whomst i get all my information from says otherwise
>but what about athlete on steroids and/or blood doping competing for money who eat carbs?
>but i can't quit sugar
>but then i can't eat fast food slop
>but i live at home and me mum cooks me carb slop
>but my ancestors were rabits
>but my ancestors were mouse studies
>but there isn't enough meat for all the billions of browns
>i don't know how to cook a steak
>but i'm trying to date a 4/10 vegan with intentionally ugly hair cut and stinky vagina
>but i was told as long as a count calories i'm allowed some slop

>>76458289 (OP)
nice essay nigga i'm still eating my veggies

My diet for the past week is 2 cans of sardines with 2 eggs in the morning and then 1.6 lbs of bottom round steak with 4 eggs every single day.
Comes up to around $18, 2000 calories and 230~ish protein.
So far it completely fixed my appetite, i feel satiated at all times, my lifts improved, it fixed my sleep on like the second day of the diet, i don't crave sugar or alcohol anymore.
Idk if i can sustain this for years but the carbs and glucose are starting to feel like a good goy povertyslop.

>>76458463
you have to be careful about going directly from one diet to another because it can be bad for the gut. even if you go to Carnivore
you should have a transition period for a 1-1.5 months
Also counting calories has been debunked
otherwise great

>>76458289 (OP)
Carnivore is for closet fags who think if they eat a retarded, performative diet they'll be able to trick other people into thinking that they're actually straight.

>>76458289 (OP)
Meat eating is being a fully paid up member of a death cult, a willing participant in ritual blood sacrifice. Deeply regressive behaviour.

I did carnivore for 9 months. Never felt better. Cholesterol was so bad doctor freaked out. More tests done. Even worse apob, etc. Stopped carnivore for a year. Cholesterol and other bad markers decreased but still not perfect. Dont do it guys.

My opinion is as follows: carnivore is an extreme, but if you're fat, eating close to carnivore (maybe a few occasional fruits and veggies) seems like one of the best ways to easily lose fat. If you want to get really lean you can be intentional about it and count your calories. Then it's ok to go back to eating the third macronutrient because your insulin will be down and your liver won't be fat anymore, and you'll perform better during your workouts etc with carb intake.

The real killer is high (refined) carb + high fat, e.g., french fries, doughnuts, etc. Massive fat storage + your liver is still working overtime to produce fat from blood glucose.

One of the meals recently that's made me feel most satiated and powerful is lentil + stewed beef

>>76458289 (OP)
Imagine not just eating a balanced and varied diet to own the libs or something

>>76458734
>Cholesterol
there's no evidence that high Cholesterol cause heart disease
It's propaganda to sell statins

>>76458839
>balanced and varied diet
Randle cycle

>>76459045
No, but high cholesterol is a good indicator of something being wrong with you (high apoB for example), high apoB is causal for heart disease

>>76458463
>So far it completely fixed my appetite, i feel satiated at all times

Are you fat? Because it's mostly fat people that report lack of appetite on keto/carnivore diets.

When I go zero carb I become so ravenous I can easily down >5000 kcal. I'm lean.

>>76458734
Did he ask for lupus profile ?

>>76459066
>high apoB is causal for heart disease
its not

>>76458289 (OP)
i dont know of a single carnivorous animal that manufactures cheese

>>76459066
according to statin funded studies that doesn't prove cause and effect

meat tastes so much better when you don't have a jew in your ear telling you it's unhealthy

>>76459412
I'm 185 pounds at 6'2, used to be 191 pounds which is highest i've ever been.
So yeah i'm kinda fat still.

>>76458289 (OP)
imagine not eating fiber
https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/in-depth/fiber/art-20043983

>>76458289 (OP)
I've been eating 90% this way since 2017. It's been great for me, and actually like that most people don't do it because it would drive meat prices sky high and I don't want most men to get in shape. It feels like having a cheat code to health, longevity, and maintaining a physique way easier than I otherwise could.

>>76458494
I agree with this entirely. I switched over the course of a few months, first cutting out the worst slop (grains, nuts, seeds, oils) and then later on cutting out veg.

>>76458833
There's nothing extreme about it. I consider it the most "pure" diet because it's just cutting out anything modern basically. Modern diets especially high carb diets are really unnatural and imo, extreme. You can't eat such a diet without eating man-made foods, it's that simple.

>>76458839
A balanced diet means a carnivorous diet. There's no other way to get the ideal balance of nutrients. If you eat from more sources you are just loading your body with toxins and inflammatory compounds for no reason. You're making a logical fallacy that because you have no idea what natural foods are you should just eat a bit of everything, which of course no species does in nature.

>>76458734
Cholesterol is supposed to be on the high side mate, unless you're fat. In a lean person cholesterol is directly tied to energy transport in the body and if you're lean and eat fat then it will drive up this energy transport. It's honestly best not to listen to regular doctors about cholesterol, they make a lot of money from statins.

Why is /fit/ overrun with fad diet stacys?

>>76462196
Beef industry pays people to make positive comments toward carnivore diets on social media, like youtube/instagram and that includes 4chan as well

>>76462196
>fad diet
says the slop-eater evolved from thousands of generations of hyper-carnivores

>>76462205
I turned down cheques from all the big food corporations in favor of my local butcher and farmer because Big Butcher just pays better than Nestle, P&G, Unilever etc.

>>76458289 (OP)
Or you could eat a non-retarded diet with all food groups represented that covers your macro and micro-nutritional needs.

>>76462229
Plants don't have anything that isn't more ideally obtained from animals though. Why don't you understand this? Even vitamin C is more ideally obtained as DHAA from animals. What you're saying is you need to eat modern foods high in an unnatural macronutrient (sugar) just because you can, which is really dumb. Historically we ate some fibrous plants, which would be digested as saturated fat, not sugar. Sugary stuff didn't really exist in the Pleistocene contrary to what vegans want to believe...

>>76462250
>muh fuggen ancestors
no one cares dude, our ancestors ate anything
meat, fruit, berries, mushrooms, tubers, plants
ANYTHING

>>76462253
The point is that "anything" didn't include bread, rice, broccoli, or any of the shit imported from the other side of the planet like potatoes that were so toxic they had to be dipped into clay to not be fatal lmao. It's ok to just be wrong about this, most people are until they educate themselves.

>>76462297
The point is that none of it matters, we live in modern times so we eat modern foods
None of what our ancestors did is relevant

Why wouldn't you eat carbs if they give you great performance and taste good? Why wouldn't you eat veggies if they give you nutrients and fiber to make you feel full, blunt bloodsugar so you don't get fat (a real problem in modern society)

It's just stupid, you've fallen for a grift of the beef industry, similar to what the tobacco industry tried to do back in the days
Although I don't actually think meat is bad and I'm not vegan, but the general public believes that saturated fat is le bad and thats why the beef industry is grifting hard to damage control
But this just leads to retarded shit like carnivore dieters

>>76462250
What’s a good animal source of carbohydrates?

>>76458713
>Those regressive lions are performing a blood sacrifice

>>76458734
Trust your body before you trust (((science))). Ask those doctors to prove to you that high cholesterol in your blood is "bad" (protip: they can't).

Btw cholesterol is a precursor to hormones like testosterone. It is quite literally a fundamental building block of your body. Why would it be dangerous to consume something that your body is made of?

>>76459659
For me, the fact that it pisses off the jews enhances the flavor.

>>76462571
You're not a lion, you dont have the instincts to kill random animals for their meat
You need to be taught first that meat tastes delicious and where it comes from and from then on you will make rationalizations why you want to keep eating it

>>76462325
>we live in modern times so we eat modern foods
And we have a modern chronic disease epidemic. Diabetes, heart disease, cancer, osteoporosis. People are degenerating and becoming partially disabled in their 20s and 30s now, and even children are suffering from obesity and diabetes at alarming rates. Yet we don't see the same thing in wild animals. Clearly something is wrong.

>>76462601
>you dont have the instincts to kill random animals for their meat
I literally do. It's called hunting. You know, that thing that humans have been doing for hundreds of thousands of years?
>You need to be taught first that meat tastes delicious
I wasn't taught that steak, eggs, and raw butter taste delicious. I simply tried them and found them delicious. How deep are you into vegan propaganda that you can't see that humans naturally crave meat? Why do vegan meat substitutes exist if meat is a conditioned taste?

Face it. Humans are hypercarnivores. We can eat some plants and still be healthy, but we cannot be healthy without meat, simple as.

>>76462601
i would argue young lions don't have the urge to kill random animals either their parents do all the hunting. Mostly because they would die but still, maybe children have the same sort of built in defense mechanism

>>76462682
Someone killed it for you and thats why you tried it, you have never wanted to kill animals until you found out that delicious meat comes from animals
Real carnivores just hunt animals from instinct alone and eat them

>>76462667
these are all the result of high calorie diets and sedentary lifestyle
>>76462682
>We can eat some plants and still be healthy, but we cannot be healthy without meat, simple as.
weird because there are way more people that don't eat meat and are healthy than people who only eat meat, but most people are fine eating anything

>>76462597
Friendly reminder that carnivore is a grift and they will say ANYTHING to make you join their hairloss cult

>>76462699
Ok bud
>>76462717
>muh calories
Are you really claiming that excess calories cause osteoporosis and cancer? Lmfao.
>there are way more people that don't eat meat and are healthy than people who only eat meat
Now you are literally just lying. Veganism is starvation and most vegans look like absolute shit. Every vegan I've met in real life was a skinnyfat faggot who couldn't lift 20 lbs and had 7 genders. I'm guessing you're one of them.

Or maybe you're just a painfully delusional vegan faggot. I honestly can't tell.

>>76458289 (OP)
Hey OP, you're retarded if you think you don't need carbs.

>>76462699
>All predators drop out of the pussy and kill something immediately because instincts
Really great point you have.
Very accurate.
Correct.

>>76462691
It's not the urge to kill its the urge to hunt, and young lions and other cats playfight and stalk each other and their mother all the time to play pretend at the real thing.

>>76458463
$18 a day or $18 a week?

>>76462699
I was killing insects and even a few small animals all my childhood since like 1y old