Thread 76458605

Is there any point on taking this actually? It makes your face bloated and barely gives any gains anyways.

>>76458605 (OP)
>It makes your face bloated
False.
>and barely gives any gains anyways.
Again, false. It's not a magic pills but the extra gains are there and noticeable.
That being said, it's not necessary and you don't have to take it if you don't want to.

>>76458605 (OP)
Creatine is the single most amazing supplement I've ever taken. With very noticeable positive effects. The biggest being not feeling tired as shit when waking up in the morning.

>>76458605 (OP)
DOES THIS BOARD KNOW ABOUT ANYTHING RARER THEN CREATINE, ZINC AND THE AUTISM PILLS!?

The hair loss shit looks like a rare side effect despite clinical trials saying its straight-up fake. It's neuroactive at high doses. We know all this shit now. Has anyone recently started supplementing something less normie they like?

>>76458619
>>76458631
How many grams you take per day

>>76458605 (OP)
It's literally the only thing worth taking outside of banned substances.

>>76458643
5 should be good

>>76458667
Why are people saying you have to take 10g+ for it to be worth

>>76458643
5g. Creatine's benefits cap at that. Also no loading phase, the benefits of a loading phase range from non-existant to almost insignificant at best.
>timing
There's no solid evidence that creatine timing afgects its effectiveness, however a recent study shows that taking it post workout might be better.
Also caffeine might negatively impact creatine, so space your caffeine intake from creatine as much as you can.

>>76458641
Iodine

>>76458671
Because you have to take 10g+ for it to be worth

>>76458605 (OP)
I wanna start taking creatine but haven't really researched it's effects. It makes you a bit bulkier due to water retention, and there's some mental benefits too. Is that pretty much it?

>>76458619
Creatine makes your muscles look fuller
>Yeah!
Your face has muscles in it
>NOOO NOT LIKE THAT

>>76458681
Makes you bald also

>is there any point in taking a chemically-synthesized equivalent of something you would get from your natural diet in amounts that you wouldn't normally?
>surely there won't be any side effects because this substance has been studied "hundreds" of times by the same people who produce and market it!

>>76458683
So this is why people's face get bloated on it, raping ur face aesthetics

>>76458688
Creatine is dirt cheap. retard.

>>76458692
So is booze.
Your point?

I didn't feel any changes so I stopped taking it

>>76458681
>It makes you a bit bulkier due to water retention
The water is inside the muscle, so it's not what you think of when you typically hear "water retention". It's not water under your skin and you don't feel bloated.
>and there's some mental benefits too
There have been some studies showing it can help cognitive ability

It also helps with recovery and strength. There is absolutely zero scientific evidence that it causes baldness. But there is a 25% chance that it will do nothing for you. But the placebo is still powerful.

I think it's worth it if you aren't dirty poor and consistently lift.

>>76458722
I'll give it a try, and yeah weightlifting is my favorite hobby, I don't miss a workout ever. Thanks for the detailed response.

>>76458694
>So is booze.
???????????????????

>>76458605 (OP)
stops you getting alzheimer's because it feeds your brain matter. this will be recognised science in a few years. people over 50 or 60 should be taking 20g a day for brain health.

>>76458935
20g a day is 2 tubs of creatine a month that shit isn't so cheap

>>76458605 (OP)
>be anxious fag
>use benzos when shit hits the fan
>benzos give as after effects nightmares beyond my comprehension

>take creatine
>works almost 50% as a fucking benzo
>happy pepe

i will take creatine for the rest of my life.

>>76458945
You're full of shit. Creatine is cheap and people spend more on candy.

I took 6g a day for 8 months and noticed zero difference other than being bloated 100% of the time but gl

>>76458957
You're actually supposed to work out to notice the difference retardbro

Been taking it for a week, nothing yet. I'll post about it if I notice anything, positive or negative.
Be aware creatine discussion on this board gets spammed by a baldschizo who claims there are hundreds of stories of people going bald from taking creatine (all on 4chan and all posted by him).

>>76459931
You gotta take it for at least like half a month for it to accumulate in your body, so don't worry that there's nothing yet

>>76458953
ive never heard of creatine helping with anxiety. whats the science behind this?

>>76459931
>>76459948
I usually start to notice the effects around the third week.
BTW, you have to take it daily, not just on lifting days, for at least a month and a half, but I'd recommend three months straigjt. Afyerwards you can skip a day once in a while if you want. It takes roughly six weeks for your body to flush out creatine entirely once you're fully loaded.

If your diet is shit or feel like your recovery is lacking, go for it. It works but it use to work and be dirt cheap so it was worth it at the price it costs now for the return you get back the value is questionable

>>76459995
i like to cycle creatine, maybe its in my mind but the first few months are the ones i feel the most out of it, then the body kinda gets adapted to it imo, i havent taken it in almost 6 months now, will prob cycle again soon

>>76460002
I bpugjt a 1kg tub at costco for about 30 bucks. That's enough creatine for a year.

>>76460013
>cycle creatine
People on here talking about Creatine like it's fucking Tren and Primo.

>>76460013
I cycle it too. I only take it when I'm bulking, focused on strength increase or want to break a plateau.

>>76460019
Too much of anything is bad it’s a reasonable idea to cycle pretty much everything

>>76460019
Creatine is safe and in theory you could take it every day for the rest of your life. But I don't want to take when I feel I don't need it, like when I'm cutting, on holidays, taking a week or two off of lifting, etc.

>>76458605 (OP)
Creatine facebloat is the worst but for those that dont know about it can use the temporary low self esteem to lift harder (outlifting the the temporary ugliness.)

>>76458667
>>76458672
>the creatine requirements of a 100 lb woman and a 220 lb man are the same
just lmao at 5g faggots.

>>76460129
>woman
Who cares?
No studies show a noticeable increase in performance above 5gr per day. That ammount works for me. But be my guest and take more if you want, I don't really give a shit.

>>76460129
>>76460149
It's probably likely that 5g saturates the body's creatine stores and in most people a large amount of that 5g is actually just being excreted out

>>76460153
Perhaps. But coincidentaly I'm a 220lbs male so I'm probably excreting less creatine than the 100lbs woman. Anyway, the scoop that came with the tub is 5g (I weighted it just in case) and not gonna meassure like 3g of creatine like it were cocaine.

>>76458671
who are these people?

>>76460170
YouTubers, influencers

>>76458953
I used to also be a benzofag a couple years ago, how long did it take to take effect from the creatine? might start using it just for this

>>76460165
Yeah that's my point, creatine is cheap enough and there's no harm in overdosing so just take a saturating dose of it

>>76460173
Send a video or something, all the influencers I know say that 5g is enough

>>76460173
lol

>>76460186
https://youtu.be/JcnRk-lrjII?si=ZqtvBWHDLNQGPhfS

https://youtu.be/EojrazbSF8Q?si=QuDf6UFf6ioFTO2Y

https://youtu.be/20eDR-Nxx0k?si=DIsCQT9DyvfEx1RE

Lots of people started taking 20g a day because it supposedly gives you even more strength and focus

It helps your muscles recover better by sending water to them.
That's the main purpose.
It helps you not be sore in the morning, which helps you feel better about working out. And that keeps you working out.
There's a tiny ATP boost and you might get an extra rep in but that's not the point of Creatine.
Creatine kicks ass.

>>76460198
L O L
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>>76458605 (OP)
Yeah, it works. If you're on a cut or actually doing real lifting, it gives you a small edge.

>>76458605 (OP)
Its really great, if you wanna get bald and bloated

>>76458605 (OP)
No, there is no point. I've thought so for a while but Clarence Kennedy confirmed them.

>>76458688
this fucking idiot and this fucking face all the time, fuck you kike israel

>>76458953
I've also noticed this. I'm pretty newly using creatine. From what I've read the caffeine connection is a nothingburger. I've been having a matcha + creatine + honey drink as my afternoon drink and it's been a joy. Been noticing some ear pressure though, which apparently can be a rare side effect. Not something in the studies tho.

>>76460176
a single day.

cannot recommend trying it enough especially for depressive/anxious people.

brain gains
muscle gains

>>76458686
jokes on you I'm already bald

>>76462146
Then it gives you hair.

>>76462083
>single day.
Might be placebo, creatine takes a bit to load up and cause any sort of effect.
BUT if it works for you and keeps you away from benzos, the more power to you. Godspeed, man, wish you the best in your training and life.

>>76458953
>>76462083
placebo is a strong thing

>>76458605 (OP)
Creatine is something used by the body to create more ATP from ADP. Without enough of this, your body just creates more ATP through other ways. It just makes sure you have a normal workout.
If you can't "feel" it working, you might as well stop drinking water since you can't "feel" water during a workout either.

>>76458662
This. Its simply the best supp on earth.

>>76458643
5g because that's what fits in the spoon that it came with

>>76463422
The lil spoon only holds 3g(measured it myself with scale)so you're under dosing it, lately I've been doing 10-15g and I put another 3lbs of water weight

>>76458672
>Also caffeine might negatively impact creatine, so space your caffeine intake from creatine as much as you can.
Wtf I started mixing whey and creatine into my milk for my daily cappuccinos

>>76458957
>>76459052

Yeah. You really notice it in the gym.

>>76463688
Not sure how true that is. Evidence,afaik, isnot conclusive in that regard. Same about taking creatine post-workout being better. But since implementing those little changes is quite easy, why not?

>>76463422
You need to compact it into the spoon. I measure with a scale.

>>76463422
Never trust the spoons. My protein shake serving size is 38g but the full cup only holds 28g.

Same with my creatine. an actual 5g spoon is the spoon plus a some extra on the handle.

>>76463769
this if you actually want 5g you should take 2-3 spoons to be safe

>>76458683
I'm not fat! I just have a muscular face!

>>76458671
>>76460198
https://youtu.be/JCTb3QSrGMQ?t=5770
It's for your brain, not your muscles, you lunkheads
You take 5g to sustain the bare minimum, and anything over 15 goes to your brain.

>>76465114
The evidence of 20g per day improving cognitive function is not conclusive yet. But by all means, if you want to take 20g per day for muscle and brain gains go for it. At best it works, at worst it does nothing.

>>76463710
yea well not me you fucking dick

>>76458688
less than .01% of humans can get enough creatine from their "diet" lol

>>76465138
Thete's a % of population who are non-responders to creatine supplementation. Maybe it's your case.

The one I bought says half the spoon is 3g so I fill it up to the handle for 6-ish grams.