Thread 76473657

>cuts for 5 months to get ripped
>goes off cut for 2 WEEKS and returns back to built-fat mode

Holy Moly, Cutting is a GIGANTIC WASTE OF EFFORT, the body DOES NOT want to be ripped, the fact it re-adds so much bodyfat in such a short period of time despite having cut for so long is proof cutting is a complete waste of ur life

Builfat is the only maintainable body, those people who are ripped year round HAVE to be some kind of genetic phenom's

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/YNeRO9WAVms

>>76473657 (OP)
If you have muscle you can eat and drink enough to hydrate your fat cells and not have to run to the treadmill or salad bar

>>76473661
I think youve entirely missed the point of what I said

You can cut for half a year, and completely reverse the effort in 2 weeks. The body is PRIMED for re-gaining bodyfat when you've spent months getting ripped.

THE BODY DOES NOT WANT TO BE RIPPED

BEING SHREDDED IS LITERALLY A MYTH

>>76473666
The effort isn't completely ruined because he hasn't actually gained that much fat and he has not lost any muscle. What your body looks like can change within hours in both directions.

>>76473666
Bro you really need to rethink your life if you think this guy packed on actual fat in just 2 weeks. You've never done a serious water-deficit cut have you?

>>76473657 (OP)
A 2 week lapse of pigging out every waking moment of the day is a pretty big commitment though.

>>76473674
Not true at all.

When you've been in a calorie deficit for a prolonged period of time and get 12% or below bodyfat, the body enters a state of of incredibly PRIMED for fat storage, so when a surplus of of calories become available, the body STORES a ton of bodyfat like crazy, and this bodyfat cannot be quickly removed again, you literally have to grind it back off again over months.

This is literally a survival mechanic the human body has built-in.

Cutting/Bulking/Cutting/Bulking actually primes your built in survival mechanism to be PRIMED for fat storage.

I made a huge mistake of doing bulk/cut cycles for 10+ years and now Im completely fucked, my body's survival mechanism for fat storage is insane. This is positive if there's even a famine, but it's extremely bad for trying to be ripped, my body works completely against me now since I activated the survival mechanism in my body from years and years of bulking & cutting


RECOMPING guys are delusional and retarded, recomping is honestly mostly a meme, but eating @ maintenance while getting stronger/fitter in the gym is likely the only way to avoid your body activating its maximal fat storage survival mechanism

>>76473674
Not true at all.

When you've been in a calorie deficit for a prolonged period of time and get 12% or below bodyfat, the body enters a state of being incredibly PRIMED for fat storage, so when a surplus of of calories become available, the body STORES a ton of bodyfat like crazy, and this bodyfat cannot be quickly removed again, you literally have to grind it back off again over months.

This is literally a survival mechanic the human body has built-in.

Cutting/Bulking/Cutting/Bulking actually primes your built in survival mechanism to be PRIMED for fat storage.

I made a huge mistake of doing bulk/cut cycles for 10+ years and now Im completely fucked, my body's survival mechanism for fat storage is insane. This is positive if there's even a famine, but it's extremely bad for trying to be ripped, my body works completely against me now since I activated the survival mechanism in my body from years and years of bulking & cutting


RECOMPING guys are delusional and retarded, recomping is honestly mostly a meme, but eating @ maintenance while getting stronger/fitter in the gym is likely the only way to avoid your body activating its maximal fat storage survival mechanism

>>76473657 (OP)
>dehydrates himself and hides the stomach
>drinks a lot of water and shows stomach
Simple

>>76473657 (OP)
Nobody needs 2 weeks of cheat meals. Way overdoing it.

Back in 2015 I cut for 8 months, and I completely reversed all the progress I made within 1 month of eating normally, I wasn't even binging or anything, I was just eating like a normal person, but I had completely lost my 6 pack.

All I did was stop autistically min-maxing my diet and calorie deficit. I have never bothered cutting ever since then. Its not worth the time and effort. I will be honest though I loved the way I looked, but it required me having radical militant tier dedication to a very high protein very low calorie diet.

>>76473657 (OP)
>>76473666
its actually easier to lose fat than to gain fat.
a 500kcal deficit will result in a bigger loss than a 500kcal surplus.

>>76473692
You don't sound SMARTER while using CAPITAL letters you stupid demoralizing faggot fuck, you don't even lift
Get the fuck out

>>76473657 (OP)
OH MY GOD IS THAT A RAGEBAIT PATHETIC PLEAD FOR ENGAGEMENT POSTED ON SOCIAL MEDIA FUUUUCK I AM LOSING MY FUCKING MIND
>>76473666
>You can cut for half a year,
Why would you cut for half a year straight?
Oh because you have too much fat?
Gee I guess bulking is a gigantic waste of effort too, fat retard OP.

>gorge yourself on salty carb-rich snacks for 2 weeks and hold too much excess water due to glycogen and salt
>oh no my shred is gone how did this happen???

>>76474068
Bro If I ate exactly how I wanted everyday with restraint this is how I would be.

>Breakfast
3-4 slice thick cut French toast, half a pound of bacon, 3 eggs with cheddar(3500ish calories)

>Lunch
12 inch cheesesteak and fries(2000 calories)

>Dinner
Half a 16 inch pepperoni pizza(1600 calories)

>Snacks
2 liter of soda, maybe 3 donuts(2000 calories)

I used to eat exactly like this when I was obese. That was 9100 calories in a day.

And you say losing is easier, lmao. I'm not even overweight anymore but my appetite remains totally unchanged. Just my hunger pangs hurt less.

>>76474327
You could eat like this all the time if you trained like Olympic swimmer Michael Phelps. Why dont you just train harder? NGMI

>>76474293
Kek

>>76474327
Holy cow, that's an incredible appetite. If I tried to eat half that, I'd just throw it up. Maybe there is something to those coping fatties who say it's genetic, not constantly overeating is a Sisyphian task for them.

>>76474348
This was my appetite sedentary, I can hardly imagine the hunger pangs with an Olympic level workout.

I imagine I could probably make Matt Stonie look anorexic.

>>76474357
It took me a very long time to build up enough self loathing to power through my appetite and get my pangs weak enough to deal with.

Appetite is certainly genetic, but the pain from pangs will usually reduce with long enough caloric restriction. However should you ever overeat, the painful pangs will return for a minute.

>>76474348
>b-but you can't outrain a bad diet!!! >:(

>>76473657 (OP)
Excessive cutting is retarded shit for professional body builders. Cutting should be limited only to going down from a bulk to a healthy level of body fat. This is also what normal women prefer. At a certain point you just need to maintain your body's natural metabolic state. This can be done by eating healthy most days of the week and having regular cardio. Simple as. Stop being insecure.

>>76474703
fax

>>76473657 (OP)
The body does not want to be ripped. True. You want that!
Your body wants to be healthy, you want to be beautiful.

>>76473666
>BEING SHREDDED IS LITERALLY A MYTH
What? A myth? What does that sentence even mean?

>>76473702
Is being shredded a matter of dehydration?

>>76473657 (OP)
I'm going through this now lol.
>Just finished a cut
>look all vascular and sexy
>start blasting 2000mg test and as much primo as I can handle without crashing my E2
>a week later looked like the pic on the right.
It's all water and glycogen

It doesn't even look attractive anyway.

>>76473657 (OP)
sadly this is me, I cut to 160 then exploded back up to 170 faster than I should've

>>76473666
you're right but no one here lifts so they wouldn't know

>>76473674
>>76473678
>>76473686
if you have a serious cut down to single digit bodyfat % then it's very easy to indulge after coping with the feeling of starvation for a couple months and it's especially easy to gain fat when you go from eating 1200cal/day to 5000cal/day

>>76473657 (OP)
Stop with the excuses and stick to your diet.

>>76473657 (OP)
Left looks fucking awful

>>76473657 (OP)
He did not lose progress nor gain the fat in the span of 2 weeks. He simply starved and dehydrated himself on the left for the photo, and started eating/drinking again on the right which made his body soak up the water and replenish the glycogen stores.
I literally have 2 different bodies in the morning and in the evening.

>>76473657 (OP)
how the fuck did he get that fat in only 2 weeks? was he chugging sneed oils from the bottle?

>>76473666
appropriate digits for a gains goblin such as yourself

>>76473692
Yeah that's why I can't cut for more than a day or 2 without severely impeding physique progress. It's legit faster for me to put on muscle to look leaner.

>>76473657 (OP)
That's not all fat RETARD. Its bloat from water and glycogen.

>>76475419
When you've been starved for a while your muscles immeadiately soak up any carbs that you eat and keep them as glycogen. Each gram of glycogen is accompanied by 3 grams of water, so even a week or two eating high carb after a long cut can make you gain a huge amount in water weight.

>>76476905
You can't keep using steroids to keep your dick from shrinking, the more muscle you put on with roids the faster you deflate.

>>76474068
My ass after a pizza says otherwise. I can gain 4 lbs in a day that takes me a week to lose.

>>76473666
>>THE BODY DOES NOT WANT TO BE RIPPED
My body will obey me and do whatever the fuck I want it to do

Should have done keto

>>76477775
look at how much salt is in a pizza then think about what you said, clown.

>>76478682
Make it pregnant then.

>>76473657 (OP)
holy asymmetry. he's LTN so its over anyways

>>76478699
bad larp or retard slowly killing himself

>>76473657 (OP)
I will post this every day until you retarded fucking faggots learn

>>76480178
lmao
Everyone who goes to the gym every day and 2 years later still looks the same is because they're "recomping".
Just ask them what their goals are:
>I'm trying to lose fat and gain muscle
kek

>>76480255
Because they aren't counting their calories and tracking macros
Also seriously doubt they move away from 3x8 on everything. Never seen anyone do 5x5, never see anyone go to mechanical failure, don't see their weights increase either

All in all, recomp with adjustments is thee best way so you don't rebound like the roid tranny in OP

The numbers on the bottom left are total batch calories and protein then split into 5 meals. On right is breakfast plus dinner and some adjustments for protein powder in the morning and or night.

>>76480300
Also in there somewhere is carb and fat count. I'll usually do low fat and carb, let er fuckin rip in the gym and eat a huge pub sub if I start to feel weak at the end of 2-3 weeks. I also take a few extra days off and deload every now and then. Mostly it's just listening to my body and looking at the mirror.

>>76474327
do you have diabeetus

>>76480255
But please tell me why fasting and losing muscle or engorging yourself to make yourself looks like shit and fat is better than a manageable climb to the same spot you're going?
I'll enjoy not starving or shitting 3-4 times a day,, k thanks

>>76480323
another retard. or the same one?
My point is the chink in the op doesnt do any of that. He bulks and cuts like any roider.
Then he goes on the internet and spouts bullshit for monetized views.

>>76480323
No one said you have to get obese when you bulk or fast when you cut.
Now why dont you show us your awesome jacked and lean body you got from "recomping"?

>>76480408
If you eat in a calorie surplus, you will gain fat. That is ultimately accepted as factual scientific information. So it seems you have the issue with reality.

And no, because 1 I don't know you, care to know you, or value your opinion as another man to myself as a man. I don't need your judgement or validation. I'm only a little longer than a year in the gym. So no. I do not have a 6 pack, my lifts are intermediate at best and beginner at worse.
Maybe in another year or so I'll be where I want, so no thanks, I'm not open to malicious commentary from children.

But regardless, tracking my macros to my bodies needs and seeing results is what keeps me going. I definitely am sensitive and self conscious about my body, I won't even deny that. It's why I still wear jackets to the gym when it's 110 out.

>>76480461
You need a calorie surplus to grow muscle. That is ultimately accepted as factual scientific information. So it seems you have the issue with reality.
>self-admitted dyel with weak lifts telling everyone how to get jacked
/fit/, the board

>>76473666
>THE BODY DOES NOT WANT TO BE RIPPED
No shit, Sherlock. That's why it's such an impressive feat. It takes months of work and discipline. Of getting ripped didn't take long no one would care about it.

>>76480491
If your maintenance calories are eaten right, then no, you don't have to go into surplus. 180grams of protein through ugh meals and shakes WILL make you grow and lose fat done correctly.
Lol not dyel because I get asked how long I've been lifting for, muscle memory go brrrrtttt
I've stacked up to almost 2345 like 15 years ago, bench was 275, squat 4pl8 reps, ran a 4.8 consistently for a couple years. Then I had kids and got flabby cause overtime and the synagogue of Satan running rentals always upping my shit. I digress, recomp has been the best feeling and results I've done.

>>76480513
>impressive feat
>Look like OP
Seems like a whole gay ordeal

>>76476933
Only sane post itt

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>>76480521
Of course you did. Every weak bitch in the gym over age 35 or so always has to come up to everyone and tell them how big they used to be, how they used bench 3-400lbs when they played varsity football in high school etc.
Apparently everyone was benching 400lbs 20 years ago. I never saw anyone doing it back then but they all swear they could.

>>76473657 (OP)
it's just water & sodium retention, tard. i know math isn't very good in the states, but go ahead &try to calculate how many excess calories would have had to be eaten to gain that amount of _fat_ (9calories / gram) in that amount of time.

>>76480521
Of course you did. Every weak bitch in the gym over age 35 or so always has to come up to everyone and tell them how big they used to be, how they used bench 3-400lbs when they played varsity football in high school etc.
Apparently everyone was benching 400lbs 20 years ago. I never saw anyone doing it back then but they all swear they could.

Everyone saying it is waterweight, how do I do the reverse?
Going to the beach at the end of the month. Do I just drink less water? Lower my carbs and salt intake?

>>76481370
holy shit retards on this board never took a fucking biology class.
There's also mention in those posts of glycogen. What is the relationship between glycogen and water, retard?
How do you reduce your glycogen stores? Any ideas, fatty?

>>76481379
I have no idea what the fuck glycogen is no

>>76481397
>I have no idea what the fuck glycogen is no
This are the people giving advice here and calling you dyel

>>76481370
>>76481370
>Everyone saying it is waterweight

They;re COPEING, its NOT just waterweight, its pure bodyfat being REGAINED

I told you FAGGOTS already, when you're in a prolonged energy deficit, your body becomes PRIMED for storing bodyfat the moment you go back into a surplus, even if its a small surplus, your body has a survival mechanic built in thats millions of years old that will have you store a FUCK ton of bodyfat

I am so SICK AND TIRED of you copeing delusional faggots who think "its just water weight brah"

Get a fucking clue.

This happens to every single fucking guy that gets shredded, they IMMEDIATELY re-gain tons of PURE BODYFAT very quickly after the diet ends, way than you think it does, it even some how bypasses typical CICO expectations, though this is as I said likely connected to the millions of years old inbuilt survival mechanic in the body to ensure the sudden abundance of calories is STORED and not just burned off since the body experienced a prolonged energy deficit

CICO seems to break in extreme circumstances, and that would include prolonged deliberate energy deficits which are required when getting ripped.

>>76481837
>CICO seems to break
No, it’s just your subhuman monkey brain unable to understand what CICO means and the relationship between energy and mass

>>76481837
CICO itself doesn't break, because people forget the effect of hormones and metabolism on energy expenditure. And large, prolonged caloric deficit slows down metabolism thereby slowing the base metabolic rate.

A person can have the same height, weight and muscle % and still have different metabolic rate and therefore TDEE, depending on whether he cut down to that weight rapidly, or whether it was reached over a longer time but with increasing metabolism on the way.

Can you avoid these cutting issues by just very slowly cutting/having a slight deficit for a long time? Perhaps spending a year on slowly removing fat, while still eating high protein and lifting hard.

>>76474327
how the fuck do you feel this much hunger? are you hiking 40 miles every day

>>76482105
I'm like that too. Constant hunger.
If I dont watch what I eat and stay active its very easy to get fat.
Then on the other hand are these atrophied dyel skeletons with bird appetites who "forgot to eat today tee hee hee". They usual spout some stupid shit that people with big appetites only eat because they're bored, are addicted to junk food or some other shit they make up on the spot.
I really think its some left over evolutionary trait that makes you eat as much as you can because you might have to go long periods without food

>>76473657 (OP)
the hair is way way way too different to be 2 weeks apart

>>76481837
its been like 2 days and your fat ass is still bitching

>>76480491
>You need a calorie surplus to grow muscle.
No.
You need energy and amino acids to build muscle.

>>76480318
I was pretty diabetic when I was obese.

>>76482105
No, just around 16 miles everyday.

>>76473657 (OP)
Did those two weeks involve melting half of his face? lol

>>76473666
he looks healthier on the right, probably also stronger and more athletic. The problem is in the mind of the beholder as they say.

>>76480178
>cutting turns you into a tranny
But why though?

women prefer the right
men prefer the left