Houston, we have a problem.

is this a pareto situation, where 20% of the world's fattest fatasses are consuming 80% of the ultra processed calories?

>>76474561 (OP)
That is not a problem, this is what people want
There are also no schizos out there claiming that ultra-processed foods are good for you, everyone knows they're bad and they still want them, this is why they're being produced

>>76474561 (OP)
I dont think this report is even right. Most people usually order food from some place for most, if not all, of their daily meals

>>76474568
>implying UPF eaters can be considered ""people""

processed food:
>this thing that was specifically designed by scientists for people to eat and contains nutrients and flavors best suited for you
non processed food:
>this thing grew on a tree

>>76474611
>this thing that was specifically designed by scientists to maximize profit margin

>>76474611
>>76474637
I wonder how much food product would be removed if food preservatives were removed. I would wager 99% of it. Which in that case you guys literally have to go back to medieval era of tending your own crops and hope for a good spring season.

>>76474653
We invented something called the refrigerator retard

>>76474653
I don't eat anything with chemical food preservatives
Fresh meat, fresh or frozen vegetables or fruits, canned vegetables with no salt

>>76474653
Not really. Produce is fine, dry goods are fine, dairy is fine, raw meat and fish are fine.
Goyslop doesn't survive tho. A shame.

>>76474673
>Goyslop doesn't survive tho. A shame.
True it's an unholy abomination of sugars and emulsifiers that rot without preservatives

>>76474662
Yea, thats if you can even obtain the food. Do you really think all companies that sell food are in your backyard? It takes time to get the food from the source to your market.

>>76474664
So you only go to organic markets? If so, even those still have to be treated with chemicals. Im not even sure if any farmers are capable of growing a large yield without chemicals.

>>76474673
They still have to be treated with chemicals. Prolonging the time it takes for food to spoil isn't the only thing thats involved when preparing it to be sold.

>>76474697
>It takes time to get the food from the source to your market.
Moving the goalpost food delivery doesn't require artificial preservatives

>>76474697
You mostly eat oil anyway, without the fertilizer industry 80% of the yield would go away globally, without pesticides you would lose 20-50% of the yield (depending on the crop) and usually as local famines, without the oil-powered transport infrastructure (and the anti-spoilage treatments) another couple dozen percent would spoil between the field and the plate.
At the end of the decade you'd end up with maybe a comfy billion people.

>>76474697
We were talking about preservatives not 'any chemical necessary for growing plants and raising animals'

>>76474697
>They still have to be treated with chemicals.
Fair, but you specified preservatives.
If you decide to remove for example ammonia, we are fucked on a global scale as there won't be enough food to go around, instead we could live without preservatives

>>76474611
I wish this were bait but there's so many underage third worlders here now I believe it's genuine

>>76474697
>organic markets
They are called farmers markets, the produce is treated with fertilizers and sometimes pesticides, but not usually preservatives, that makes no sense

>>76474593
For their "main" meals maybe. The average goy grazes all day and that's where the middle aisle stuff comes into play.

>>76474697
Also natural preservatives exist little bro have you ever heard of pickles, or salt, or spices

ok and?

>>76474781
Learn about how food is produced and makes it to the market before speaking.

>>76474796
Yea, impossible to avoid all things unhealthy when trying to produce food for the population.

>>76474801
I throwing anything bad under this umbrellas. Since the article posted by OP was about ultra processed foods, this doesn't mean "natural" foods don't undergo some kind of treatment as well.

>>76474812
Thats true. But I also said 99% of the food inside all markets would disappear. You would be left with just the meats and produce.
My point is that people would still complain about things that don't make that much of a significant impact on health. The only thing I can think of right now that needs to be solved is the microplastic problem.

>>76474831
My point is that no food is created "naturally". You cannot avoid some kind of treatment to all foods if you are buying it from some place or someone.

>>76474871
Then why don't you see foods sold with that label of "natural preservatives used"? People are so obsessed with being healthy that it would be an instant selling point above all other top shelf products. Its not that easy anon.

When they say “ultra processed” are they referring to various seed oils and HFCS? Do they go into specifics at all? I’m not going to respond to this mong who thinks food didn’t exist before the 21st century

>>76474914
>The only thing I can think of right now that needs to be solved is the microplastic problem.
And heavy metals in the sea, but yeah, those are the more serious pollution issues.
Avoiding chemicals is more about avoiding goyslop than any specific chemical

>>76474561 (OP)
should be 90%, remaining 10% for diversity

>>76474914
Backtrack and goalpost champion right here

>>76474561 (OP)
If just ten % of those callories were to come from meat and whole veg tomorrow we simply wouldnt have the water or farmlands to do it.

>>76474954
Avoiding goyslop is already done by people who are so disconnected from the normal world. There are people out there who hunt, forage, and maybe grow their own crops. But the lives these people live is so much work.

>>76474960
Whats being backtracked and what goalpost? Are you really trying to argue all foods are made without treatment? Where am I disagreeing with you that preservatives are bad in general?

>>76474983
You don't need to go full hunter gatherer just to avoid ultra processed food tho
You just need to buy ingredients, and processes them yourself.

>>76474983
>Growing food is so difficult
>It’s much easier to work for Mr. Shekelberg

>>76475001
Ya, I agree. I already do this myself but I still do buy ultra processed foods from time to time. Mainly snacks though like cookies or maybe pizza rolls.
I think /fit/ might be a bit too autistic with this or perhaps everyone here eats too much of it to see how bad it effects their own health. I really don't even understand why people complain about it, just stop buying it but it is clearly evident people love buying it while still complaining about it.

>>76475016
What have you grown? What seasons is optimal? How often is the harvest? Is it enough to supply yourself on a weekly basis? If not, where do you shop to not buy your food like a normal person?

>>76475035
You want my government ID and postal codes too?

>>76475060
1/10 troll. Get back to algebra when the bell rings anon, okay?

>>76474566
It's crazy how valuable some consumers are.

When I switched to a different liquor store the liquor store owner called the police and did a welfare check, a year later he went out of business.

>>76474561 (OP)

>>76475430
>When I switched to a different liquor store the liquor store owner called the police and did a welfare check
lmao
(not really though)

>>76475437
it's more junk food in a day than I consume in a year.
I feel sorry for these people although I know most of them are evil

>>76475462

>>76475437
It all looks so unappetising tho

>>76475471
How many fuckken pizzas in a day?
Now that's a bulk

>>76474561 (OP)
>Ultra-processed
what does this mean exactly?

>>76474566
pareto is dunning-kruger nonsense
>>76475430
>getting swatted by a drug dealer
land of the free or something

>>76475437
>8pm
>oh so it's over soon at least
>half the video's runtime is left
oh god

>>76474561 (OP)
Tell me an easier way to count calories than pre-packaged food?

>>76477267
I just tell everything I eat to AI and it gets it mostly right

>>76475535
It means you grind everything down it to its basic chemicals and then throw it all together. This means for example big food companies can buy the cheapest oil, break it down, take the chemicals they need for the food they create and voila. This is btw exactly what happened when ukraine got invaded, all big corpos replaced sunflower oil with cocunut oil. At the end they add tons of salt and sugar, so your brain gets happy from eating upf, despite it being textureless slop. Visit your local mcd or burger king for perfect examples for upfs.

>>76477267
Have you tried using a kitchen scale?

>>76474561 (OP)
Propagandists need to cut the shit with the "processed" word. A fucking carrot cut with a knife is "processed".

>>76475437
Lol it looks like her hand got fatter the longer the video went on.

>>76475535
Literally nothing. It's a glownigger media buzzword to get idiots to buy into diets that kill them.

>>76477357
I'm ultra-processing dis fucking loaf a bread ova heuh! I'm obese and dying of cardiovascular disease because I baked my own bread!

It means nothing.

>>76474561 (OP)
These foods were created through the miracle of science, they have scientific ingredients and science is good, therefore logically these foods are good too. Not only that if something that was intended for use as a motor oil can then be marketed to the eager masses as a healthy alternative then that's green and carbon neutral and a step towards our net zero goals (also science)

>>76474611
Yeah I love science, scientists are awesome and totally not dysgenic control freak nerds

>>76476923
Alcohol isn't a drug it's medicine. I get awful nausea, migraines, vomiting spells and shakes alcohol is the only thing that fixes it

>>76477812
>I disagree with one scientist therefore they're all tools of the devil and the scientific method of invalid

>>76477823
The scientific method is valid for creating the modern homunculi that pass as humans

>>76474611
>processed food:
>>this thing that was specifically designed by scientists for "people" to eat and contains additives and preservatives to extend shelf life and boost profit margins.
>non processed food:
>>this thing grew from the bosom of mother earth, Gaia herself.

>>76477827
>Greedy american food manufacturers that hire chemists to make cheap goyslop invalidates the fields of biology, chemistry, physics and mathematics

>>76477267
You only have to manually count out yourself once what each meal is calorie size, then you can rinse and repeat without having to read labels or packets.

>>76477834
>scientists are so righteous that they just can't help themselves making absolute poison for the masses at the behest of their corporate overlords
when the dorks in these fields stop collectively working towards making life so hellish I'll say chungus again

>>76477858
This is why they got bullied in high school, psychopathic little nerds

>>76477864
Exactly, kids can identify that these things have no soul, no inner monologue, no capacity for empathy. They're just compelled to distort, destroy and bring everything down to their level.

>>76477858
I never said all scientists are all good people retard.

>>76474566
How is this a pareto situation?

>>76474561 (OP)
am surprised it aint closer to 100%