Thread 76474924

How to ruin your fit e-celeb career (USING SCIENCE!)

>>76474924 (OP)
>takes Sandow as example for a bronze era lifter
>not Hackenschmitt
>assumes everybody before the 1950s were natty
>doesn't know Hitler, yes Hitler of all people was on test during the 1940s
>didn't address the point that HE gave farthat an platform and his transformation is not possible as natty
>didn't address the point that that Farthat's FFMI is natty reachable
>didn't address the point no matter how good your genetics are, you can't get as big as Larry motherfucking Wheels(who is on gear) in an timespan of 3 years like Fritzgerald
Nipples should become a politician.

it's over for this gnome, nuked his whole career just to be a fake natty. Mike was right about this dwarf

>>76474924 (OP)
why do I find his look, especially those glasses, really irritating?

>>76475306
Every generation has hated on the slang/appearance/style/fashion of the next generation. Been happening for thousands of years

>>76475319
he's almost the same age as me, we're the same generation

>>76475306
He dresses like a Hipster from 2013

>>76474924 (OP)
>science-based
>doesn't know how to read science papers

>>76474924 (OP)
I would never who any of these "influencer" faggots are if 4chan retards didnt constantly make threads about them telling everyone they shouldnt watch them.
And the people who make these threads obsess over everything they say and do so they come here and make more threads about about why you shouldnt watch them.

tdlr you are all incels with no life

>>76475306
>>76475319
because it's objectively ugly, if he was dressed like a hypebeast or streetninja you'd hate him less, but as it is
>square, clear frames on a light skinned, angular face, literal opposite of what he should do, but he'd look better with contacts anyway
>blockhead with a buzz that doesn't work for him at all, he has good hair and has looked a lot better in the past with longer hair
>almost laser-sharp beard, these always look bad, and he looks better either clean shaven or with a short beard
>muscular person in a big chunky sweater just looks weird, again he always looks better in tighter stuff with this physique, which would also help him cut a """taller""" silhouette, and help his limbs look less stubby.

I hate this midget fraud so fucking much everything about him pisses me off like his voice is so obnoxious
when that roided tall ass dude with beard choked and dumped him on the ground I cheered

>>76475429
mike van wyck is 5'7 max, not tall

nippard is just that short

>>76474924 (OP)
About time he lost his influence

>>76476518
>those stubby little arms
He should thanks god every day that he is not an actual midget because it looks like it was a 50/50 chance when he was conceived

This is one of the only cases id advocate for someone to troon out
He's already a tranny in the hormonal sense

>>76475306
He is going for the science look

>>76476518
what you're not seeing in this image is xim giving a birth to a beautiful race mixed trans child

I don't hate him for being short like many insecure people on this board. I dislike him for his attitude and because he's a grifter. He's manufacturing drama to make money, and you retards keep eating the bait

>>76474924 (OP)
he looks like he would get excited over a nintendo switch

>>76475269
fpbp

nothing he said was wrong but nothing he said had enough backup to justify 2 videos and certainly not enough to claim its science
its clickbait and you lost because you didnt only click but you posted it elsewhere giving him views and revenue

>>76474924 (OP)
Isn't this guy a shitlib?

>>76477292
Probably. He doesn't talk politics, ever IIRC, but he is on friendly relations with retards like Hasan etc.

>>76477157
shut up. you stupid FUCK

>>76475269
Test was barely available and nobody really understood what it exactly did and why it worked in the 40s. Even in the 50s 60s and 70s countries with anabolics programs were using it in rather poor ways.

>>76477312
How isn't that hassan guy in jail though? I don't watch streamers much but last time I heard of him he was giving a platform to a literal houthi terrorist and expressing support.

>>76477287
>its clickbait and you lost because you didnt only click but you posted it elsewhere giving him views and revenue
Wrong. Now people are more aware he's a dishonest fraud and will be wary of him in the future.

>>76474924 (OP)
What's even the point of using a study from 1995 that has never been recreated on a large scale?
What's the point if you dont address HOW these two gained their physiques?
What's the point if you admit they easily could've used gear for years and just now stopped?
What's the point of saying God tier genetics if we dont know WHAT genetics and we cant test for it?

This is a real question. Why do people listen to influencers? You know what's healthy. Deep down inside, you know what's healthy. You know you have to lift. You know you have to get good quality sleep. You know you have to eat high quality whole foods and avoid negative influences. What do these people offer you that you don't automatically inherently know and that your grandmother could regurgitate to you?

>>76477924
But I didn't watch him for that. I watched him fir tips abd advice on lifting weights and building muscle and seeing if anything new knowledge wise was available, to see if there were any areas i could improve. Now that I know he's just another shill I dont care what he says.

>>76477933
It's like you didn't even read my post.

>>76477935
I did. I dont watch influencers for basic shit I already know like get good sleep or eat balanced diets with whole foods and avoid alcohol.

this midget is funding 4chan bots jannies are faggots

>>76477127
KEK

>>76476518
why the hands wrap
and the fake scream damn

how did this guy ruin his career?

>>76478480
he said multiple people obviously on steroids are natural.

>>76478480
Spent years making science based weightlifting videos, always citing research to support his ideas, been very reasonable in general too.
Recently he made a "natty or roided" video, where he showed some very obviously roided people and claimed they are natty. People didn't buy bullshit, it's the first time one of his videos got heavily disliked and got a lot of disappointed comments. Now he doubled down on defending roided faggots.

>>76478511
probably because he's also on roids and needs to defend his friends who know what his cycle is

>>76476518
This shaved ape has a gf, just let that sink in

>>76475269
Smaller men have smaller brains

>>76478520
I really hope that guy isn’t roused. Imagine fucking up your health to look like shit

>>76475361
Hes a canadafag

Warrick MOGGS this tiny tit

>>76475306
>that particular combination of arrogance and timidity sets my teeth on edge. Like all people with timid personalities his arrogance is unlimited.

>>76474924 (OP)
I stopped following efitness drama a few years ago. Let me see if I got this right
>presents obvious juicers as natties
>gets slammed
>attempts to defend his position
>gets slammed harder
correct? Is this the death of "science"-based lifters?

>>76478726
Yup, you got it 100% right.

Athlean-X is smart and moved on to making his usual clickbaity videos that actually have contents for 60yos with rusty joints helping them get more mobile while rest of youtube fitness is imploding.

>>76478811
Thats probably the thing to focus on. the 35+ natty crowd, and how they can maintain health and some athletic performance. Oh well, youtube fitness had a great run, and was due for a course correction.

>>76474924 (OP)
As far as I can tell, he compares modern lifters with 19th/20th century lifters and for some reason modern DEXA scams with... I guess eyeballed body fat? No sources are given, I dunno if they even exist. Did Sandow ever measure his body fat? How? How often?

Jeff is just retarded. If we just take all the data form the past at face value, ancient Greek athletes were miles, MILES beyond the modern roided elite. Though that was so long ago it's more believable than Jeff's claims desu.

>>76479131
Yah, and here is another thing. Photo-manipulation has existed as long as photography has existed. Old photographs are not a reliable source.

>>76478726
Jeff looks like the type of person that can't just drop it until he forces you to see his side of things.
>makes a living being the 'science based lifter,' talking about the most optimal shit in existence to make gains, even shits on other youtubers passive aggressively to sway others to his side
>makes a dumbass video for no reason trying to defend obvious juicers
>no one agrees with him
>immediately makes another video doubling down

Guarantee you since this follow up video didn't work he'll make ANOTHER video about this shit tripling down on this shit. No wonder he got throat shoved.

>>76479153
Yah, especially when that attitude is mixed with a condescending attitude. Hate that.

>"Uh, excuse me, I think there's a better way to do that exercise."

Your reaction?

>>76479341
>You have that mixture of timidity and arrogance that sets my teeth on edge

What did he do?

>>76479494
Scroll up.

>>76479341
>Ok, what am I doing now that you would change? Explain to me what you think I could do better.

I

>>76474924 (OP)
lmao i went to go on youtube to check what was happening with this nerd and realized i dont even know what his name is

>>76479629
Jeff. Don't confuse him with Jeff however.

>>76479638
buy ad faggot

>>76478708
I wouldn’t say he’s timid. Idk know how to describe it. He’s like a little rat. Smarmy I guess. The kind of guy that would stab you in the back just to get a whiff of pussy.

>>76479648
Which Dr Mike do you prefer, soiboi?

>>76479659
sage each replay in this botted threads jannies sucking dick rn

>>76475269
>>assumes everybody before the 1950s were natty
It is the likelihood since Priopionate was only in Germany after 1937 and you can deduce why it wasn't anywhere else due to the political circumstances around the time which would stop importation and exportation of German goods. It wasn't approved for sale within the US until 1951. Moreover, the 1950's is when most of the improved testosterone esters were first synthesized. If you disagree, find me the US customs documents proving that testosterone propionate was imported in any significant quantity to supply the dozens or even hundreds of bodybuilders between 1937 and 1950.

Methyl Test would be what was everywhere else. It was very low dose for a high price, had a low half-life, and destroyed your liver. You can deduce from this why bodybuilders were not using this either.

It's a pretty safe assumption to assume bodybuilders weren't using it until the 1950's.

>>76477908
Plausible deniability. He says enough to leave open the possibility that they're not natural, while still advocating that they are

>>76480083
>>76480095
¬‿¬

Is Jeff still claiming lifetime natty?

Can I ask why this shit even matters?

Its not as if some guy who gets pretty jacked and lean naturally has better training or dieting than everyone else - it's just genetic differences and/or steroid use.

Neither of those are available to a natty.

The best methodology of gaining muscle and losing fat has been worked out for a while. Progressive overload in a calorie surplus to gain muscle. Training and calorie deficit to cut fat while retaining muscle. High protein diet.

That's all there is to it. Where you end up is up to you

>>76475306
You know in cartoons when characters put on labcoats and glasses to look smart? This is the real equivalent.

>>76480083
>>76480095
You gotta make it like those cartoons when a person gets shrunk down to insect size

>>76477143
The problem is that the drama he's manufacturing completely discredits him. Saying shit like an FFMI over 25 is possible natty because there are football players who have it and football doesn't allow steroids just makes him look like an absolute retard when his entire gimmick is being the super informed guy

the only influencer I listen to is atlaspowershrugged

>>76477908
>What's the point if you admit they easily could've used gear for years and just now stopped?

The Hany Rambod video with Julian Fitzgerald shows him getting extremely tired after only a couple reps with fairly low weight and giving up on workouts that even a casual lifter could get through. Almost like someone stopped injecting to pass tests and is (testosterone) crashing out.

>>76478520
I think it's less defending friends and more him desperately trying to push up the standard for a natty physique so his own looks more believable.

Hussein and Julian have lifted for 3 years without all his science knowledge and absolutely gigamog him already though, so all it does is make him look like a complete retard who doesn't actually know how to train.

>>76474924 (OP)
Reminder that OP is a lanklet lifting for 5 years straight without making gainz and not having a single mire ever.
>Friday night foreveralone.jpg but let's mock that short dude from YT
>"I'm Jeff Nipple and le science cannot make me taller..!!"
>"he will never learn"
>"at....at least I get notice in my crew, they're all dwarfs!"
>"What,....w-hat do you m-mean the new cut is at 6,5'???"

>>76479131
Sandow also wrote books about his feats such as lifting a 300 pound man who was holding a cannon with one hand and continuing to hold him through the recoil of the cannon firing. Anything that guy said is not to be believed even slightly.

>>76474924 (OP)
Cucknadian faggot

>>76480202
Whats his schtick?

>>76480275
odd and old lifts with strength focus
he's where I learned about grimek drops which are the most based retard lift ever
>barbell
>do an ohp
>drop the barbell at lockout
>slightly crouch (almost like a power clean) and catch the barbell in zercher

>>76475301
>>76474924 (OP)
Fuck Israetel
Fuck Nippard

>>76480285
What muscles are this targeting?

>>76480372
that's why I said based retard lift
it's inefficient as shit, can't be loaded too heavy for obvious reasons, and doesn't hit anything effectively enough to warrant doing it

>>76480372
All of them

>>76480379
Sounds like a fountain of lifting knowledge

Holy shit what a dumbfuck, this can't be sheer stupidity right, Niggard is just running tranny defense.
How the hell is this nigger at 12% lmao

>>76480686
He also just pulls estimates out of his ass for lifters from the past to justify higher FFMI calculations.

He also talks about NFL defensive lineman and their DEXA results as if the DEXA isn't designed around the average person and is going to be WAY off when you get to that size. This is the same test that told Ronnie Coleman he has -3% bf. Literally negative body fat but this machine is the gold standard.

why does NOBODY on /fit/ link the fucking video they are talking about?
include that in the OP you fucking retards.

>>76480686
i don't understand how it's surprising that fitness influences all lie about each other in a positive way

hollywood does the EXACT same thing. and youtube is now, for some retarded reason, a competitor of hollywood. this is basic business - lie about everything all of the time while making money

>>76478566
Oh, wait until they get Covid there they are gonna freak.

>>76479948
>Priopionate was only in Germany after 1937
Doctors in the USA were treating patients with testosterone propionate starting in the late 1930s

>>76479948
> Priopionate was only in Germany after 1937
Here's a newspaper article from the USA in 1939 with a doctor advising the use of testosterone injections.

>>76474924 (OP)
Damn Seth Rogan got skinny. Reta?

>>76481010
Nope, science man Dr. Nippard said it wasn't until at least the 50s. Debunked>>76481015

I never hated mr nipple but this drama is funny as hell hope it gets more heated

>>76481265
Same. I want this to blow up with consequences I cant even imagine

He's laying the ground work for hopping on gear (if he hasn't already)

>>76478480
>United States Secretary of State Marco Rubio slammed the exclusion of Zelensky in the talks between Trump and Putin
>"It would be like Yalta without Churchill. Zelensky absolutely has a right to be a participant in the talks. Putin cant be given the impression that the free people of Ukraine can be marginalized"

>>76477342
>I heard of him he was giving a platform to a literal houthi terrorist and expressing support.
based?

>>76481978
He 100% was on gear as a teen. I can believe he is natural for 10 years, but when he started out he was absolutely juicing if you look at the old pics of him.

>>76481159
Damn I didn’t know she was this hot.

>>76479650
He's seething(heh) with reddit snark and passive aggressive faggotry, the kind of guy who will yield in an argument then tell everyone you know how wrong and stupid you are behind your back.

>>76480275
He's a midwit sperg reactionary that thinks he knows more than actual strength and conditioning researchers, all his videos are ankle biting people bigger than him and he talks like he's permanently reading from a script.

>>76480686
I just didn't like the guy so I ignored him, then I watched this video out of curiosity and boredom and it was one of the worst thing I ever. He isn't just factually wrong, it's the way he tries to trick the audience because it's impossible that he doesn't see how wrong he is. He doesn't even try to pretend to not know any better, he didn't even try to get better excuses.
Terrible human being, prejudices confirmed.

Do newfags and normies STILL fall for the ""science-based""" fake natty charade?

>>76478641
kek