Thread 76481582

Are some races stronger than others (scientifically speaking)?

>>76481582 (OP)
are some individuals more prone to juicing than others (scientifically speaking)?

>>76481586
yeah niggers and indians are the most prone

>>76481582 (OP)
not so sure on that one m8

>>76481582 (OP)
Sure but you're talking about at most 2% of any given population. Maybe one race has 1.5% prevalence or another has 2.4% it's not enough to matter compared to just having the numbers to make enough rolls where those pop up. Except for maybe India who can't despite their extreme numbers seem to produce top tier strength athletes.

WEST AFRICAN:
>Incredible movement speed and explosivity with well-muscled builds. Despite the speed, they are not lacking in strength, with significant success in powerlifting and near-domination in boxing.
>strongest judoka
>has the hardest punchers in the world (both boxing and MMA)
>despite Jim Crow laws and racism, a black man became heavyweight boxing champion dominating for 7 years from 1908-1915

tranny thread

>>76481650
NORDIC / NORTH EUROPEAN:
>Possesses the largest frames and height. Unlike lanky tall Africans, they are well-built and wide at gargantuan heights. Compose more than 90% of strongman champions: a sport focused not only on lifting, but handling and moving weights up to 600kg.
>strongest strongman
>strongest archer (modern)
>strongest shotputter
>most World's Strongest Man winners per capita
>average tallest, largest stature
>average highest grip strength
>heaviest deadlift
>heaviest yoke carry
>heaviest pull-up

>>76481660

GEORGIAN:
>Brute strength and tenacity in a wide variety of athletics. A Georgian UFC champion displays the most freakish muscular endurance in the history of combat sports.
>strongest armwrestler BY FAR
>strongest sumo
>strongest olympic weightlifter
>most UFC champions per capita
>most armwrestling champions per capita
>most judo medalists per capita
>most wrestling medalists per capita
>heaviest clean and jerk
>heaviest snatch
>heaviest wrist curl

>>76481650
>with significant success in powerlifting
is this true?
>near-domination in boxing
I don't think near-domination, but they do damn well
>they are not lacking in strength... near-domination in boxing
Boxing is a very poor measure of how strong you are
>despite Jim Crow laws and racism
was boxing even segregated at the time?
Even at this time, blacks in America were some of the richest people on the entire planet, perhaps wealthier than most of Europe, so it's questionable how relevant this is

>>76481667
SAMOAN:
>Renown for terrific size and broadness. Massive width, thick skulls, wrists, and necks. Dominate rugby, with standouts in combat sports that are hailed for great power, and inhuman durability.
>largest sumo
>most rugby union players per capita
>50x more likely to play in NFL than non-Samoans per capita
>average highest bone density (20% greater than European average)
>average 20% larger triceps than white Australians
>babies (around 1 years old) 23% larger than other races
>average highest CREBRF gene, incredibly rare in other populations at 0.01% in East Asians and 0.004% in Europeans (increases muscle mass, body weight, and leg strength)

>>76481674
Some good points I like the discussion.
I copied it from somebody else but I agree with it for the most part.

>"with significant success in powerlifting" is this true?
Yeah. Most of the 700lb benchers are negroids, look it up. Best bencher of all time is a mutt. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Orlando_Williams Ray Williams has the heaviest squat, think he was the 2nd strongest powerlifter at one point but now he's the 4th.
You also have Jamal Browner.
>"near-domination in boxing" I don't think near-domination, but they do damn well
Used to be until Tyson Fury and Usyk came along.
Spics are pretty good in boxing too, but only in lower weight classes. When it comes to fighting, Samoans, whites, and blacks have always been the best in heavyweight.
>"they are not lacking in strength... near-domination in boxing" Boxing is a very poor measure of how strong you are
True, but "fighting strength" is how a lot of normies would interpret strength. You definnitely can't be physically frail as a boxer. You need a strong skull and fists, good exposivity.
>"despite Jim Crow laws and racism" was boxing even segregated at the time?
Don't know but they were definitely doing lynchings and shit at the time. There was definitely segregation, sports were not but people did avoid fighting blacks unless they were forced to. Jack Johnson's parents were former slaves who became janitors.

>>76481582 (OP)
>Are some races stronger than others (scientifically speaking)?
Yes, but you won't like the answer since it's Euros. By far.

>>76481650
>WEST AFRICAN:
Your forgot
>not a single gold medal, in any sport, ever.

>>76481648
>Maybe one race has 1.5% prevalence or another has 2.4% it's not enough to matter
India has billions and it has fuckall athletes.

It matters a massive amount when you are filtering the elite of the elite, there's not going to be an even distribution.

Georgia has a population of 4 million, that's 2 cities in the US, but they have 2 MMA champions, the strongest armwrestler of all time, most muscular wrestler (Revaz), best wrestler in Serbia (similar to how blacks have the best runners in Netherlands, Germany, etc.).

Iceland has a population of about 400k, they've won about 1/3rd of the World's Strongest Man comps.
China population: 1,416,096,094
Japan population: 123,103,479
Korea population: 51,667,029
Still no armwrestling champs, strongman champs, HEAVYWEIGHT powerlifting champs. Even in Sumo, national sport of Japan, japs are constantly getting mogged by Mongolians and they had to limit the amount of foreigners joining so Japanese could still compete.

>>76481726
>WEST AFRICAN:
>Your forgot
>not a single gold medal, in any sport, ever.
True. Should've put British and Jamaican instead

>>76481715
>4,743 people lynched between 1882 and 1968
>1,297 were listed as "white"
>population of blacks in USA was 10 million in 1910
this should have no impact on boxing performance
>There was definitely segregation
And countries are mostly segregated from each other, it doesn't really mean anything besides how wealthy they are
>people did avoid fighting blacks unless they were forced to.
this might be true but it's hard to quantify it and its effects
>>76481726
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African_Olympic_medalists
some there, but not many
besides, West Africans exist outside of West Africa. We're really talking about Bantus here, who exist throughout eastern and southern Africa, and the Americas

>>76481582 (OP)
>Are some races stronger than others (scientifically speaking)?
what's a race?
that's not a clear, scientifically defined, term retard

what is true
>regional differences with certain genetic mutations
>suitable for specific sports / activities
but that has nothing to do with "race" or "ethnicity"

examples would be
>people living in tibet, nepal or Andes who can absorb more oxygen (they have different mutations but they all do something similar)
>Bajau people in Indonesia, "sea nomad gene" with larger spleens => better (free) diving
>Kalenjin people in Kenya, with higher proportion of slow-twitch muscle fibers => better at long endurance sport
but that has nothing to do with "race"

god, I really fucking hate americans with their shitty research making everything about muh race
obsessed.

>>76481650
>>76481660
>>76481667
>>76481679
most of these have literally nothing to do with "race" nor "ethnicity"

just cultural
either because the sport is popular in the country
or because it's expensive to participate, so sparse competition

or it's literally random
you can have 2 or 3 once in a generation athletes born in the same country by chance

or very locally restricted mutations
but it's retarded to attribute that to a certain country (maybe depending on the size)

>>76481748
>besides, West Africans exist outside of West Africa. We're really talking about Bantus here, who exist throughout eastern and southern Africa, and the Americas
What an idiotic claim. I hope you can see yourself you are arguing yourself into a corner.

>>76481794
It's not random. Caribbean countries and others with no (or only very recent) doping control organisation like Kenya or East Africa usually are very good at sports.

problem is you guys are extremely dumb and uneducated and can't think logically. Fr example, you have West Africans with no medals and West African living elsewhere with lots of medals. Your result is thus that West Afrcan genetics are the best. Absolutely asinine.

>>76481802
Midwit retard moment

>no (or only very recent) doping control organisation like Kenya or East Africa usually are very good at sports.
Show me kenyan sprinters, olympic lifters, and bodybuilders
Show me black, georgian silver and gold medalists for sprinting

Oh wait, their genetics are only good for one specific thing
https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2013/11/01/241895965/how-one-kenyan-tribe-produces-the-worlds-best-runners
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0265625
How come these guys aren't medalling in olympic weightlifting or shotput?

>>76481905
Because they steal the weights

>>76481582 (OP)
i mean russians with weird names in ufc keep winning.
there should be a genetic reason for it.

>>76481582 (OP)
It does not matter if one race or other is stronger, what matters is if you're stronger.

Today I shall remind them

>>76481582 (OP)
Yes you can see it in the master/slave mindset that non whites still carry to this day. They will never be able to compete with superior genetics. Especially Indians

>>76481582 (OP)
Race is probably a factor on the extreme ends of the genetic bell curve but for the average person their race won't be a factor.

>>76481715
>Don't know but they were definitely doing lynchings and shit at the time. There was definitely segregation, sports were not but people did avoid fighting blacks unless they were forced to. Jack Johnson's parents were former slaves who became janitors.
Race influenced the narrative around Joe Louis but it had nothing to do with the actual boxing.


>>76481787
Nice reddit post that adds nothing to the discussion

>>76481794
You are a complete fool and I won't be drawn into this, but I suppose it's 'cultural' that west africans make up the entirety of the national soccer and basketball teams of Costa Rica, despite their being no blacks in Costa Rica.

>>76481912
I think it is cultural. Whatever group comes from the shittiest poorest place tends to be the best at fighting. In America it was the Irish, then the Italians, then even the Jews, then the blacks, now the mexicans and poor slavs.
I don't think there's anything special about dagestan except it's violent and culturally values fighting
I am NOT the retard arguing race doesn't real, and it certainly comes into play, but fighting is very cultural.

>>76481794
Peoples of north Germanic ancestry providing history's strongest and most violent men in all of history.
Keeps winning every single WSM competition
maintains a consistently high win/loss ratio in most physically demanding sports.
maintains a high amount of Olympic gold medals despite being from small countries with unbelievably strict anti-doping laws

> its not le hecking race/ethnicity chud !

>>76482777
> Intermingled with eastern Europe for most of history
> Complement the Yamnaya markers like Novodanilovka & Sredny Stog

>>76481794
I'm sorry, kiddo, but even if you're a billionaire Filipino living in Norway, you ARE NOT going to compare in elite physical prowess games.

>>76481679
that brown bloated fuck is 178cm tall

>>76482794
Yes, I too believe made up bullshit to try and give muds a pat on the butt. There there, you are equal. The guy in >>76482777 pic is actually a chink. My transvestite prof taught us this. You'd be surprised how there's no white people.
Retard.

>>76482777
>providing history's strongest and most violent men in all of history
because... most other history was never written down or popularized in the first place, or even outright destroyed
the only countries with long, documented history are either in Europe plus China

>with unbelievably strict anti-doping laws
i wonder if there's a confounding variable... hmmm
couldn't be GDP (or wealth or whatever similar metric, no no)

countries that spend more on (early) sport education / pro athlete programs are more likely to have Olympic gold winners
not to mention that many modern Olympic disciplines, especially the winter ones are kinda expensive - outright unaffordable to the bottom 90% of the world

>muh le anti "race" must be le evil liberal
also the visible difference between "races" are attributed to only really small genome differences
completely retarded to hallucinate some deeper difference there without any evidence

The answer is, and always will be, Slavic/Nordic.

>>76481625
ZESTY

what about China arent the latest gold medal olympic weightlifters Chinese? might be different if Russia wasnt banned

>>76481905
They move to the usa and win there.
It's about the country's restrictions not the genetics.
>doesn't count because he is usa now!
OK retard.

>>76481582 (OP)
I dunno.

>>76483681
Mariusz Pudzianowski

>>76482475
There are a lot of blacks in Costa Rica actually you chudcel
>t. Costa Rican

No,everything about this argument is pseudoscience. If anything, it has nothing to do with race and everything to do with the geographic region someone lives in as well as culture. Kenyans have great endurance. Black people in the US don't have that same endurance. The same concept applies to white people and Asian people. No, black people aren't generally stronger, no black people don't have bigger genitals, no asians aren't naturally smarter, no they don't have smaller penises. Certain groups tend to be over represented in certain sports.

>>76482002
>One Jeet with the pinkish hoodie doing 3 reps of tricep kickbacks

>>76481582 (OP)
Yes

>>76481794
Polynesian capabilities are entirely racial phenotype.
They heavily selected for large bulky warrior builds because insular warrior islanders have to be hyper competitive for resources not only against each other but against nature.
Same is true for Icelanders and various other European island isolated like Canary Islanders (they are now extinct but Spaniards on first contact wrote down they stood far taller than Europeans and could penetrate steel plate armor with softer metals and stone by using strength alone).

>>76484322
I thought they were bicep curls at first...

>>76484347
>Friar Espinosa gives a physical description of the Guanches:
>"These people (those from the Southern band) are somewhat tan and dark in color, now it is because they bring this color of generation, now it is because the earth is somewhat warm and the sun roasts them, because they walk almost naked, as they walked. But those in the Northern band were white, and the women were beautiful and blonde and had beautiful hair."
https://mathildasanthropologyblog.wordpress.com/2008/03/10/the-guanches-of-the-canary-islands/
>According to the tales of the European conquerors, the Guanches were a “highly beautiful white race, tall, muscular, and with a great many blondes amongst their numbers”
>They proved their strength and prowess by defeating and destroying nearly all of the Castillian expeditionary force in 1494 at a place in Northern Tenerife which they called Acentejo (Running Waters) and where later was founded the village of “La Matanza de Acentejo” (the Massacre of Acentejo). Warriors went naked to war, although normally they wore tamarcos, capes of goat skin to protect them from the cold of the mountains.
/fit/ as hell. They MASSACRED plate-armored manlet conquistadors with goathide and wooden spears.
>the conquistadors spoke of the “the amazons” of the island of La Palma.

I wonder how strong the PATAGONIANS were.

>>76484456
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batalla_de_La_Laguna
>Among others, the king of Taoro fought bravely that day, because with a halberd, they say, he defended himself from seven horsemen, and eventually he escaped among them and climbed the slope of San Roque.
One guanche king > 7 spaniard horsemen

>>76481582 (OP)
>Are some races stronger than others (scientifically speaking)?
No, there might be some genetic disposition to certain physical traits but the difference between races is negligible.
Retards love to have the biggest genetic freaks of certain areas and equate their success in sports to the entire race when usually not only the most successful of a race are genetically gifted, they ability are from the way they trained through out their lives.
Just because giga niggas exist doesn't mean all niggas are muscle bound explosive punchers.
Just because mark hunt exist doesn't mean all samoans are explosive tanks.
Just because canelo exist doesn't mean all mexicans are impossible to knock out.

Just because you see someone of a specific race have exceptional physical abilities doesn't mean everyone in their race is like that.

>>76484501
>Just because you see someone of a specific race have exceptional physical abilities doesn't mean everyone in their race is like that.
This nigga hasn't come across the concept of averages

>>76484322
he did 0 reps cause he was swinging them.

>>76481582 (OP)
I got the book The Genetic Lottery. It seems weird the premise of the book tries to dispel racial differences and eugenics.

>>76483681
>high income
>Poland
>Canada
>Sweden

That seems pretty limited.

>>76481794
Just get the fuck out of this website and go to reddit, please

>>76481737
Based dwarfmaxxer on the right.

>>76481787
I really hate retarded faggots like you who don't know your ass from a hole in the ground and smugly spew nonsense.

Scientific biology lesson, pay attention boy.

Whites are descendents of Cro Magnon, which is a hybrid of a particular Homosapien group mixed with Neanderthal man.

East Asians (yellow) are another group of Homosapien mixed with a smaller percentage of Neanderthal man.

Indians and browns are Homosapien mixed with Denovisian man.

African Negroes are Homosapien mixed with an early, non human hominid possibly homo erectus or habilis or another monkey.

These different biological origins plus hundreds of thousands of years of separate evolution form distinct races. Ethnicities are a subsect of this, with much less distinct evolutionary time-a thousand years of difference between a German and an Englishman, 200 years difference between an American and a Canadian.

>>76483506
fugggggggggggg she is TIGHT

>>76485316
This is retarded, it has been way too long for any trace of sub homini species dna to be relevant today.

>>76486871
you are retarded. There are diseases such as lupus or crohn's which appear to be entirely linked to neanderthal DNA. So its extremely relevant today. I would also posit that "genius IQ" is also linked to neaderthal DNA but I wouldnt want your head to explode so ill leave it there.

>>76481597
crackaboys always think black people are juicing
just accept that we have better genetics when it comes to putting on muscle

>>76482002
>Indians went from having a group of traveling bodybuilders who went from village to village teaching fitness to being unable to do 3+ of any exercise.
>standing around in a group
>filming each other
How do these guys fight chinese people and tigers with sticks?

Always confused me that /fit/ wasnt aware people used roids as teenagers. Even literal who rural towns have farm kids juicing to play football and not blow their joints out on their freshman season. College sports are even worse to the point they tell you to not lift any of the roof tiles in the dorms due to people storing piss there for drug testing PED and weed.
Why do you think every atlhlete goes "i am gifted, i am talened, im built different"

Majority of PED's are pretty cheap under a 100 dollars for a 3 month supply and were cheaper when i was a teenager. The expensive shit is like HCG and even that most people skipped for clomid.
When Japan's Pride was a thing everyone was juicing hard as fuck and zoomers look at that and old athletes as the pinnacle of being a man.

>>76486890
Interesting. I’m a pajeet, very brown, and am in the 99th percentile for Neanderthal DNA according to 23andme.

>>76486890
>T.homo erectus.

>>76486901
See if any athlete can drink a lot and or do pain pills with acetaminophen for multiple days without deflating or getting yellow eyes.

>>76487241
>yeah this golfer was drinking like 5 beers holy shit
Nope not natty.

>>76487058
>he gave his genetic code directly to blackrock and PAID for the privilege
no wonder you're a fucking neanderthal

>>76486901
Exactly. Can always find some super strong random black dude from Alabama that plays football that's like 6'5 300 lbs and STRONG. White boys need steroids

>>76485035
It's literally an impossible concept for some people when it comes to race
I mean, some Asian grandmas commit murder so why point the finger at blacks, right? Yao Ming is tall so why call chinks short?

>>76483506
s-s-s-s-seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeex

>>76481582 (OP)
Black people have more myostatin deficiency/mutations. On the African continent it's eat or be eaten, jack off or be jacked off, black or get blacked. Muscle is an evolutionary imperative.

>>76481648
Punjabis (from india and pakistan) produce atheletes. Also in india its only cricket (right now india are the best cricket team in the world btw) they give a fuck about and even then punjabis make up a disproportionate amount of the team.

>>76486958
the key is to build a society so shitty that dying and coming back as a lower mammal doesn't sound so bad

>>76484366
Jeet curls

>>76481582 (OP)
>Are some races stronger than others (scientifically speaking)?

If you aren't European, Bantu, Arab (?), or Samoan, good luck.

>>76493585
Not Arab. In terms of strength it's Europeans #1.

>>76481582 (OP)
If you look at the top powerlifters and strongmen almost all of them have Germanic origins. Extend that further a bit and you get northern Europeans in general who dominate basically every strength sport. There are a few Africans in there but by and large northern Europeans are the strongest.

>>76493909
Why does her body look that way? Like a bloated starving African child

>>76482002
there is a pajeet in my local gym and he's exactly like this. why is this worldwide phenomenon? are they genetically that weak?

>>76486901
Blacks metabolize steroids much faster, which makes it much harder for them to be tested, of course people are suspicious.
>>76488455
This is cope for why White dudes dominate strength sports.

>>76494255
>>76493909
I'd say blacks and whites are pretty neck and neck in terms of strength sports but niggers have less core+grip strength and more explosiveness.

Blacks do pretty well in powerlifting, most talented powerlifter of all time is Devonte Lewis, who is black. They aren't the top of the top but blacks are more poor and powerlifting doesn't really make money. Strongman, they've also done pretty well for how little blacks there are but North Europeans are definitely better.

The issue with saying "blacks" is that Africa is a huge continent and theyre quite different physically.
Sudanese =/= pygmies
West Africans (90% of non-African blacks) are not the same as the others. They're the most explosive and muscular type. Senegal and Cameroon especially are filled with freaks. Other Africans just aren't the same, Kenyans (specifically the Kalenji tribe lineage) are slow-twitch and very small and weak.

Same goes for "Asians", a Filipino is going to be very different to a Chinese or Korean. Mongolians are gonna be a lot stronger than the other Asians as well.

>>76493585
Georgian > North European > West African
>> everything else
Samoan is also up there but Samoans tend to be very lazy.

>>76494330
Redpill me on the asians.