Thread 76493043

natty lifting is a massive time and energy sink - and honestly, unless you’re a pro athlete or getting paid to do it, it’s mostly a waste of life energy.

You have to obsessively track every calorie and gram of protein every single day, grind through 5-6 gym sessions a week (or longer ones if fewer days), and your whole life starts to revolve around eating and training. And for what? To look like a guy who hopped on testosterone for a year and blew past you in a fraction of the time.

Most natural lifters bulk and just get fat - looking sloppy and untoned. Or they cut and end up looking tiny in clothes, no muscle “pop.” The tradeoff isn't worth it.

After 5 years of this obsessive lifestyle, many natty lifters have gains so disappointing they barely look different - especially compared to those using gear who can transform their physiques in a year.

And let’s be honest: the only natural lifters who look truly impressive have either made the gym their entire lifestyle with paid trainers, coaches, and nutritionists, or have exceptional genetics that most don’t.

If you want serious size and aesthetics, natural lifting alone is often an uphill battle against biology and time.


This is why I hopped on, 1 year of progress.

>roiding
>still have the face of a chubby middle schooler
oof

Just go in gym an lift object. You fuckheads really know how to overcomplicate the process.

>>76493045

nattycel cope. You will never look like you lift.

>>76493048

and this guy made zero gains lol

right is a good fizeek but you absolutely didnt need to roid for it

>>76493058

took 1 year bro. natties take 10 years with good genetics and utter devotion to get to the right side.

>>76493045
That’s how I know a natty or semi natty vs a gear poomper. David Laid is a good example of a semi-natty before he hopped on gear.

>>76493043 (OP)
it's a journey

Everyone is telling you you're a cheat and now you resort to 4chan to get your ego up

>>76493086

>semi-natty

Retarded zoomer.

>>76493141

implying id admit to breaking the law IRL.

Correct, this is why wealthier people just do cardio or endurance training. That you can actually get really good at as a natty. They understand natty weight lifting outside of some light resistance training is basically a way to get injured and not much in the way of gains.

>>76493144
>implying id admit to breaking the law IRL.
You just did you moron

>>76493043 (OP)
Justifying my lack of willpower;
a thread.

Stay mad roidtranny.

>>76493043 (OP)
>post some random faggots transformation
>start being hostile in the replies to other anons
>now other anons are attacking the dudes appearance as if it's the OP

>>76493170

less about injury and more the fact its a complete waste of time as youll only get mediocre results. better off lean maxxing as a natty and doing a martial art or sport.

obsessive macro tracking and the routine in general the part of the reason natties (even roiders) have such poor mental health.

>inb4 muh strength

No one cares. No one gives a fuck what your 1RM is.

>>76493200

on an american website you jelly DYEL

>>76493205

You will never look like you lift.

>>76493211

Delusional.

>>76493043 (OP)
i shower with my gf and she tells me i'm hot 90% of the time

>>76493238
>You will never look like you lift.
Why are you repeating this mantra when you yourself admit in the OP there are people with great genetics that look great. Why are you reverting to this nonsense.

You do realize that saying is a meme and people who are natty look totally like they lift, look powerful and well-built.

You fucked yourself up, will lose all those gains when you come off, now live with your mistake instead of trying to persuade others into it.

>76493043
Uggo

>>76493043 (OP)
Now get a real man's haircut, faggot.

>>76493258

>caring what women think

ngmi

>>76493305

>natty coping this hard

LMFAO

>>76493321

I mog you

You barely look better than me lmao

>>76493417
>>76493417

not OP but no you dont. OP is definitely carry more mass. you look like a guy who plays sports casually. also imagine tracking calories, macros and training obsessively most days of the year just to look like this when there's martial art chads who look just as good if not better.

anyway even you both were on par the point OP is making hes only been at it for a year. you've been at it for half a decade.

>>76493417
dude he looks like he has 50lbs on you, you look like a DYEL sack of shit in comparison lmao

delusional

>>76493452
>>76493417

samefag who's seething because he looks like a soccer player and not a bodybuilder.

>>76493043 (OP)
All of that is true, but I still won't roid. In my experience natty lifting makes your tendons, bones and ligaments stronger while your muscles barely react. I'm ok with just becoming more sturdy and injury-proof every year.

>>76493452

unless you're saying OP is bigger then i agree. my bad.

>>76493452
>>76493437
Calm down Op

>>76493623

coping nattycel

>human body has a natural function where repeatedly using your muscles causes them to grow
>have too little patience for this process and/or want to look like a mutant so choose to inject yourself with chemicals which objectively shorten your lifespan and kill your reproductive capabilities
>subsequently begin spamming demoralization threads and compulsively posting your body over and over again for validation
>post walls of text repeatedly stating how great the chemicals are and how bad natty lifting is and how you don't regret the chemicals at all and everyone should take them and not taking them is for stupid dumb ugly morons
>somehow the people who don't do this and instead just do natural exercise are the ones 'coping'
Sure, dude

>>76493674

No, the fact remains that you as a natty will NEVER look like a bodybuilder. Everyone will assume you're "fit" but youll never look built unless you're some genetic outlier.

>>76493674
Buried him

>>76493690
>the fact remains that you as a natty will NEVER look like a bodybuilder
Why would I want to look like a bodybuilder?

>>76493693
>>76493674

insecure samefag DYEL

>>76493695

KEK there it is, the sour grapes

>i didnt actually wanna look big!

cope

Why do we have this extremely low iq bullshit always on /fit/ specifically? You'd think /fit/izens would be more sensible than the average 4chan poster but no, this is among one of the worst boards of the whole site.

>>76493704
Every board would benefit from thread ids.

>>76493704

only mentally ill people spend lots of time on image boards, especially wannabe-bodybuilders

>>76493782

and make the site into r.eddit? kill yourself.

>>76493787
>and make the site into r.eddit?
You've already got the spacing down. Nigger

>>76493798

Those are called replies, retard.

>>76493045
am i the only one who likes face/body mismatch

>>76493045
This is actually a good thing since roids age your face. Stay mad nattycuck

>>76493043 (OP)
This thread is bait.
Also, guy in the pic is less than 6ft and ugly, so not even good bait.

But its a hobby for me it's fun ? I'm not doing it so you can be be back up guy serial number 2345 for some women , no one really cares about your numbers on lifts , it won't make you a badass killer in fights etc it just makes you feel good and is little personal challenges every time can i get another rep or add weight maybe a set and recover.

Men spend hours upon hours playing video games , building or sorting collections like lego , trading card games , figures they are all arguably more time wasting but if they make your day less shitty who cares remember if you shaved your head the world won't react in shock you've always had a shaved head as far as they are aware no one cares

>>76493238
Agreed. I used to be strong as fuck as a natty, bench 3 plate etc, but was FAT. NO ONE cared how strong I was because I was fat. Didnt help me get any bitches.

Lost most of my fat, dropped down to two plates, but can actually somewhat see my abs now and I look and FEEL a lot better. They're right.

>>76493417
I mean you look like you're in decent shape but I wouldn't ever confuse you with a roided out bodybuilder.

how come people who fraud never post their bodies after 30 years old or more? its almost like when you use early your body becomes deformed when you're older or something

>>76493043 (OP)
If /fit/cels like thou spent as much time working out, as they have demonstrated nitpicking at everyone’s personal fitness journey, then this board would return to a safe-haven for those looking for self-improvement. Instead the reason this board is “flooded” is because half of it are those who genuinely want vanity and mires, specifically at the behest of others who they WANT to look down on. They then offset the motives claiming it has nothing to do with mires, but rather “what a healthy lifestyle brings”. Which includes being kind to those who have different circumstances to you. If you want something, it’s possible. But your heart knows that if it’s for the vain reasons, life WILL make it a living hell for you to endure and achieve. The guy in OP’s pic probably had fun and enjoyed his journey to becoming where he is (and hopefully still is) that ‘ole expression that JFK said about why we do things rings true to this day.

>>76493674
OP on suicide watch

>>76493690
>look like a bodybuilder
>looks like someone on roids
>looks
>looks
That’s all I hear from natty-haters. For starters, why don’t you ACT and BEHAVE like a bodybuilder.

>>76493043 (OP)
Natty lifting is overall a very healthy hobby. It teaches you about the importance of sleep, clean diet, recovery, gets you to exercise regularly, forces you to develop patience and discipline, might be a gateway "drug" to other sports and so on.
Getting on gear and fucking with your endocrine system might easily invalidate most of that and it's rarely an improvement, gear is addictive af and way more likely to cause long term mental problems than being a little OCD about lifting and diet as a natty. This hypothetical image of an easy going laid back roided handsome Chad who eats whatever and looks great is very often off the mark.

>>76493043 (OP)
wait a second, i remember you from a month ago, and you spent all thread claiming to be natty, and you have the same posting style...
why are you doing this?
https://desuarchive.org/fit/thread/76388502

>>76493452
at least change the way you write you retard

>>76496607
seriously though the mogger looks like a dyel bitch next to OP.

>>76494991

only smart natty in this thread so far. exactly right. no one gives a fuck how much you bench if you look like a bulky fatty. lean maxxing at a more modest strength level is infinity times better and much more sustainable long term.

>>76495002

making up scenarios in your head again?

>>76495918

i already refuted that idiot, you samefag.

>>76496110

nonsense

>>76496432

no it isnt because most bodybuilders and natties eat high cholesterol foods and tons of red meat.

>>76496598

ah you're the guy who stole my photo cus you're a jelly fag and made shit up lol

>>76496607
>>76496665

that other guy is tiny compared to me.

>>76496709
>ah you're the guy who stole my photo cus you're a jelly fag and made shit up lol
what? thats literally you, you're writing the same things
goldfish tier memory

>>76493043 (OP)
Bitch made nigga

>>76496757

Yeah cus you're the faggot from the other thread who took my picture and made a new thread. Idiot.

>>76497215
you have the same typing style and cringe retorts, you're just larping as pro-roids now lmao

>>76497220

holy fuck you're pathetic. just say you're jelly cus you're small.

>>76493043 (OP)
>yet another bait thread wherein OP is either a larping, unreasonably aggressive (feminine behavior) roidtranny, or is actually the ugly fucker in the pic and constantly has to defend his perceived honor
don't you guys ever get bored of this shit?

>>76493787
Only people against IDs are shameless samefagging retard niggers such as yourself.

>>76493043 (OP)
>hopped
Why are steroid users always hopping?

>>76493043 (OP)
I know this is a shitty b8 thread, but I’ll humor you
>honestly, unless you’re a pro athlete or getting paid to do it, it’s mostly a waste of life energy.
Don’t have to read further. You’re a fucking retard if you think that any pro athlete or paid fitness “professional” is natty

who cares

>>76497394
suck my balls.

>>76493043 (OP)
Nobody asked kys

>>76493043 (OP)
not a serious person

>>76493043 (OP)
No gym for your face

enjoy your sleep apnea and being stuck on TRT for the rest of your life just to feel normal. Also damage to your cardiovascular system, liver, kidneys, everything really. Me? God blessed me with strength I am just strong and I do not need to put a needle into my ass.

>but you wont get to 4% bodyfat!

good. You guys look like freaks. Being 15% bodyfat never stopped me from fucking sluts

>>76497524
Weird homosexual reply to being called out, faggot nigger. So which is it? LARP for attention, or you're actually the ugly fuck in the photo? Kek

>>76493045
one of the biggest signs of being on roids is if their face does not at all match their body.
Lifting and fitness to SOME extent DOES change face composition.

>>76493417
>>76494997
This your physique is too imbalanced to be confused as a bodybuilder
you look more like an amatuer mma fighter and even pro fighters at least have a balanced physique

What if I like myself as I currently am and I just enjoy the process? Lifting is not a chore for me, you're projecting your own experience onto others

>>76497404

all reddit niggers deserve to have their teeth kicked down the back of their throats and forced to pick their teeth out of their fecal matter.

>>76497519

thanks for proving my point, DYEL.

>>76497541

you're an incel

>>76497564

kek tiny little natty dyel

>>76497674

not the op

>>76497679

literally the opposite you low IQ brown sub human. roids age the face.

>>76497705

sour grapes and you're small

>>76498087
Ok anon, enough talk, it's time to post body.

>can't sleep
>feel like shit
>suspicious of others
>on edge
>can barely think straight
>constant brain fog
>compulsively jacking off and watching porn
>ruin my relationships with the people I love
>constantly greasy
>lose the hair on my head
>get a bunch of new hair on by back and shoulders
>get acne and scarring all over my torso
>have outbursts at work
>resting hr >100 BPM
>lose my breath if I have a long conversation
>intermittent cheat pain
>GERD
>lose my appetite
>constantly need to pee due to enlarged prostate
>sweating constantly
>looking fucking awesome

so worth it brothers

chad desu

holy shit this mentally ill anon again

>>76498101

Can't relate desu

>>76498627

This

>>76498632

Dyel

>>76493054
>You will never look like you lift.
Has the OP posted body yet in this thread?

>>76498087
Post IDs simply call out samefags and shills. You have <80 iq.

>>76498661
Here, fixed that for you

Op looks hot ngl

>>76498661

its in the OP idiot

>>76498774

there are no IDs here you brown smelly shitskin.

>>76498838

natties look small

>>76498951

ty

>>76493058
Everyone who says this is dyel lmfao.
True shit OP. I took test and anavar. Did the test for 8 months straight. Made insane gains that I hadn’t made in 8 years of natty lifting. Natty lifting truly is a total joke. Your genetics determine how you will look. Gear lets you get past that limit

>>76500980

only person on this board who isnt afraid to speak the truth. the vast majority of natties look tiny.

>>76493043 (OP)
stfu reddit fag not reading your garbage

>>76501126

stay small

yeah whatever, im gonna seethe and mmire your juicy ROIDGAINZ from my side of the natty river

>>76500980
Have you considered that you might have been doing it wrong for eight years?

>when the body dysphoria hits hard tonight cus ive been looking at fit shirtless dudes all night

STAND MY GROUND (natty) I WONT GIVE IN

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NpWDT3jkQKY

>>76501395

kek

>>76501407

post physique

>>76501418

just leanmaxx and do a sport/martial art. natties will never be big unless they are a 0.01% outlier genetic freak.

>>76493072
If it takes you more than two years to get that physique natty with complete devotion then you're a genetic dead end. Lmao

>>76501431

hell naw, im a natty power lifter who wants abs, as ritarded as that sounds

>>76501504
Superheavy squats and DLs can build you some serious ab mass. It's just that the PL lifestyle trap just makes real cutting so hard that vast majority wind up either keeping up with it and becoming meat goliaths or giving up and becoming lard asses. Very few successfully retune their lifestyle and get back down to sub 15% bf.

>>76501515

i do hexbar diddlies. yeah i eat as much as i can. plus i do additional abwork i do i do try

>>76493043 (OP)
>And let’s be honest:
ChatGPT post