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Anonymous No.76499515 >>76499532 >>76499533 >>76499592 >>76499615 >>76499708 >>76499710 >>76499744 >>76499748 >>76499750 >>76499810 >>76499948 >>76499978 >>76500177 >>76500496 >>76500791 >>76501185 >>76502132 >>76502191 >>76502578 >>76503112 >>76503134 >>76503366 >>76504209 >>76505302 >>76505838 >>76507438 >>76508040 >>76509370 >>76509382 >>76510265 >>76510799 >>76513148 >>76513373 >>76513398
What percent of the male population do you think the fittest top 1% of the female population could beat in a 1 on 1 fight?
Anonymous No.76499532 >>76513156
>>76499515 (OP)
trained combatants or just "fit" females? that makes an enormous difference
Anonymous No.76499533
>>76499515 (OP)
I would be surprised if it was more than 10-20%.
Anonymous No.76499544 >>76499550 >>76504550 >>76511545
not gonna look it up but there's a percentage of the population who is elderly and/or disabled
Anonymous No.76499550 >>76499559 >>76499608
>>76499544
Also prepubescent kids.
Anonymous No.76499559 >>76499608 >>76499714
>>76499550
I was thinking of the adult male population but adding prepubescent males doesn't even help their cause because you actually make their 1% less fit if you include prepubescent girls into the total pool you're taking the 1% from.
Anonymous No.76499592
>>76499515 (OP)
30% maybe 40% tops
Anonymous No.76499608 >>76499858 >>76511552
>>76499550
>>76499559
Didn't the Australian female soccer team lose against a high school soccer team? So probably 30% of the male population
Anonymous No.76499615 >>76499699 >>76499735 >>76501459 >>76508000 >>76508448 >>76510571 >>76513278
>>76499515 (OP)
Just one of those women could conquer India single highhandedly
Anonymous No.76499699
>>76499615
How flammable is the flooring? How many exists does the building have?
Anonymous No.76499708 >>76499903
>>76499515 (OP)
I'd say the top 1% of best fighting women could beat 95% of men in a fight
most dudes are pathetically weak and have no coordination or fighting ability
some women are deceptively dangerous
I remember sparring with this 6'1 butch chick in kickboxing and it was scary, he jabs were stiff and fast and if it was a serious situation I think she would've lit me up
Anonymous No.76499710
>>76499515 (OP)
all of them but the entire man population would come to this womens aid and flog you this is where they get their confidence although id be ready to mow down a horde of jeets and spics
Anonymous No.76499714 >>76502408
>>76499559
okay this study is getting more convoluted and confused
I thought we're taking the top 1% of women based on fighting competence... if not then what is the metric? "fittest"? what the fuck does that even mean, does that mean marathon runners? swimmers? what is this arbitrary nonsense?
Anonymous No.76499735 >>76500169
>>76499615
Imagine the smell
Anonymous No.76499744
>>76499515 (OP)

>woman fighting a man 1 on 1

please dont do this. run or use a weapon from a distance and with training if you are in that situation.
Anonymous No.76499748 >>76503134
>>76499515 (OP)
AI is so based.

Top 1% of women could probably beat 60% of men since they're all little Indians and Chinese people
Anonymous No.76499750 >>76503134
>>76499515 (OP)
It will be something up there like 80-90%. Children, elderly, the sedentary, the disabled, probably even 60% of young to middle aged generally healthy men will be reliably beaten by a tall/large well trained 1 in a 1000 woman
Anonymous No.76499756 >>76503134
please dont forget about the male autism rage enhancer
Anonymous No.76499757 >>76499770 >>76499786 >>76501243
here is a good example of a relatively fit man (probably more fit than 90% of the population considering how fucked up most men are) getting his ass kicked by a woman fighter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKNiEU-xr_0
this is what would happen to more than 90% of the male population
the ones who train would do better but still many would lose to top woman fighters
Anonymous No.76499770 >>76499780
>>76499757

hes a gentleman and isnt trying to hurt her
Anonymous No.76499780 >>76499803
>>76499770
he couldn't if he tried
he probably also knows that if he did try then she would try and it would be brutal
she is holding back 90%
tell me you don't fight without telling me you don't fight
Anonymous No.76499786
>>76499757
fuck is that example. scene was about him getting beat up for comedy
Anonymous No.76499803
>>76499780
i do fight. men have a rage enhancing mode
Anonymous No.76499810 >>76499835
>>76499515 (OP)
50%. Lot of old people that would have a heart attack after 20 seconds of fighting and lots of obese kids who never been slapped around in their lives.
Anonymous No.76499835
>>76499810
You have to factor in that for the top females as well. It's not the 1% of female elite warriors, it's the top 1% fittest women between obese toddlers, senile centenarians and everything in between. The fittest one for every 100 women. Basically an average bitch, really.
Anonymous No.76499858 >>76499872
>>76499608
Yes, and top female fighters lose against amateur high school boys as well
Anonymous No.76499872
>>76499858
highschool amateur wrestlers/boxers would be part of the top 0.1% of males in terms of combat readiness
Anonymous No.76499903 >>76499937 >>76500860
>>76499708
I doubt even 0.2% of women are anything close to proficient at combat of any description.
Anonymous No.76499921 >>76499937
here's a man entering his battle rage. i get that they are professional fighters but it's a good illustration.

there's a point when a man gets enraged and simply wants to hurt and damage another person. it takes opposing force to stop it.

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/HT00WAOKank
Anonymous No.76499937 >>76499941 >>76501430
>>76499921
these are two experienced bare knuckle boxers
not at all comparable to the average man
you have no idea what you're talking about
just fantasy and delusion
>>76499903
yeah you're probably right
Anonymous No.76499941
>>76499937

i wanted to point out his rage. my point is that men are capable of this, and women arent prepared for it.

it takes opposing force to put down a man in this berserk state
Anonymous No.76499948 >>76513430
>>76499515 (OP)
top 1% means basically nothing. thats roughly the share of population that actually goes to a gym regularly. top 1% for women means being too weak to bench 1pl8. so they could only beat a male who is unusually weak, for example due to disability or age (seniors and little children), so maybe the bottom 25% weakest men
Anonymous No.76499978
>>76499515 (OP)
depends if we talking roided trannies or natty women.
Anonymous No.76500169
>>76499735
I will not
Anonymous No.76500177 >>76500743 >>76513633
>>76499515 (OP)
Some people are genetic freaks. My wife hasn't done anything athletic in a decade + and when she got a free PT session when I added her to my gym membership she DLed 205 lbs for her 1 rep max (shes 135 lbs), benched 135 lbs, squat 155 lbs, and OHP 95 lbs. She had never lifted weights before in her entire life, petfect form with little direction on all 4. Her back when she flexes looks like a God damn cobra, way better than mine. I swear to God if she let me train her she'd be a world class athlete. I showed her how to choke someone if you take their back and people challenge her to do it at parties, she's never not God someone unconscious in 5 seconds, better than me (I'm a purple belt in BJJ), though it could be that her arms are bone hard
Anonymous No.76500496 >>76500527
>>76499515 (OP)
>What percent of the male population do you think the fittest top 1% of the female population could beat in a 1 on 1 fight
Less then 40%. Mainly boys below age 12-13, old men that cant walk, disabled adult men, men that are suffering from starvation, men that are physically wounded, men suffering from dwarfism or other physical disabilites and maybe men below the height of 150cm.

There are very few normal adult men a top 1% woman can beat in a 1v1 situation. Especially a life or death situation.
Anonymous No.76500527
>>76500496
The top P97 women have the same height as top P50 men in the US.
Anonymous No.76500718
im shakin in my asics lmao
Anonymous No.76500743
>>76500177
I want to fuck your wife,you are very lucky
Anonymous No.76500791
>>76499515 (OP)
Lets consult the evidence 1/2
Anonymous No.76500803 >>76500881
>but what if you gave them guns and the same training?
2/2
Anonymous No.76500860
>>76499903
Top 1%
So take 100 women (21+) and put the strongest one in a team , repeat for all women on earth.

What % of the men (21+) would lose?

Being generous id say 15%
Anonymous No.76500881 >>76500976 >>76500978
>>76500803
Is that the US marine study from 10 years ago on female soldiers? Got a link for it?
The voice of reason No.76500976
>>76500881
Female soldiers should not exist.
Anonymous No.76500978 >>76501193
>>76500881
Yes it is. I don't have a link.
Anonymous No.76500983
A woman, no matter how trained, could only only beat functionally disabled men - obese, bulimic, emaciated from sedentary life, wheelchair bound, near blind etc.
Anonymous No.76501185 >>76502240
>>76499515 (OP)
They might be fit as in being strong but they won't have the reaction time, male brain, or ability to handle stress.
They could probably take on a decent bunch like 20-40% of men if they know wrestling and id say 60. I

wouldn't go higher than that because from what ive seen they arent really competent in sports for example: the WNBA is unwatchable despite the women being over 6' tall and supposedly the top 1% for in basketball. Only Britney Griner can dunk for example.
Anonymous No.76501193 >>76501230
>>76500978
I found it and the actual 978 page report itself.
https://wiisglobal.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Research-Summary-Final_9Sept15.pdf
https://cmrlink.org/data/sites/85/CMRDocuments/288862790-Ground-Combat-Experimental-Integrated-Task-Force-Report%20(1).pdf

The 978 page report is just page after page of all male squads outperforming mixed-gender squad.
Anonymous No.76501230 >>76501394
>>76501193
>978 pages proving men are better than women
absolutely based anon
Anonymous No.76501243
>>76499757
>relatively fit man
it's a skinnyfat drunkard weed smoker posing for a slapstick movie
Anonymous No.76501394 >>76511515
>>76501230
desu women dont have the same standard as men to begin with. The marines are not stacked with ubermench amazon women to start.

The average male marine according to the 978 page study done in 2015 is
>176cm tall
>78 kilo
The average female marine
>163cm tall
>61 kilo

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11009549/
> year 2023
>sample size 736 marine women = 5% of all marine women
>average age 29.5
>average height 163.5cm
>average weight 68.3
>average bodyfat 30.1%

And for fun, the average 18 year old jap school girl
>height 158 cm
>weight 53 kilo
The 2015 female marine is only 5 cm taller and 8 kilo heavier. The 2023 female marine 15.3 kilo heavier.
Anonymous No.76501430
>>76499937
Is that guy in the blue tights really that experienced? I'll admit I don't know much about bare knuckle boxing. The guy looks like he knows how to throw a decent punch and use his hips, but he completely drops is guard hand with every single one.
Anonymous No.76501459 >>76501473 >>76502604 >>76502891 >>76511559
>>76499615
Other than the bare feet, what exactly is wrong here? Or are you just a racistcel?
Anonymous No.76501473 >>76501480
>>76501459
nta but lemme help you out, see all those brown people? they need to leave
Anonymous No.76501480 >>76502596 >>76502604 >>76502937 >>76504575 >>76505173 >>76510899
>>76501473
What makes you think they're not in India? And if they were, take it up with your congresswoman.
Anonymous No.76502132 >>76502183 >>76504642 >>76508433 >>76509443 >>76511538 >>76511564
>>76499515 (OP)
Probably a large percentage. Female wrestlers beat even trained men pretty regularly
Anonymous No.76502183 >>76502240
>>76502132
That guy really needs to lift instead of doing gay sports.
Anonymous No.76502191
>>76499515 (OP)
i used to box/kickbox and i've been in a bunch of street fights. male, featherweight to bantamweight range. i'm about the size of a female fighter but i have top 99th percentile reach and male bone density. so i think i have a decent perspective but it won't quite be 1:1. also im not rly a grappler.

>What percent of the male population do you think the fittest top 1% of the female population could beat in a 1 on 1 fight?
>Female is high skill level trained fighter vs untrained man
probably a very large amount of them but with some caveats:
- height cap because their arms are short and they must be able to reach the guy's head.
- if its a street fight the guy can grab ahold of her and slam her and kill/hospitalize her at any point. and its easier to grab clothed people (like most are on the street.) if its in a ring or on a soft surface like grass and she only has a sports bra on then this isn't as big of a deal.
- at the highest levels of grappling the girl would win almost every time minus the chance of getting slammed onto concrete but i dont think there's any female grapplers that good. but there are small males who are.

>Female is very fit but not a trained fighter vs untrained man
she'll lose to any guy over about 150lbs just on bone density lol.
but these things can go either way. fighting is NOT intuitive. some untrained people tard out or can't handle pain so factors like that could swing it.

>Female is high skill level trained fighter vs average out of shape male physique and 6-12mo casually boxing on the weekends
if the man's decent he'll win every time, if he kinda sucks it'll be a competitive fight that could go either way.
Anonymous No.76502197
i used to box/kickbox and i've been in a bunch of street fights. male, featherweight to bantamweight range. i'm about the size of a female fighter but i have top 99th percentile reach and male bone density. so i think i have a decent perspective but it won't quite be 1:1. also im not rly a grappler.

>What percent of the male population do you think the fittest top 1% of the female population could beat in a 1 on 1 fight?
>Female is high skill level trained fighter vs untrained man
Female wins most of the time but with some caveats:
- height cap because their arms are short and they must be able to reach the guy's head. there aren't many women with high positive ape index out there.
- if its a street fight the guy can grab ahold of her and slam her and kill/hospitalize her at any point. and its easier to grab clothed people (like most are on the street.) if its in a ring or on a soft surface like grass and she only has a sports bra on then this isn't as big of a deal.
- at the highest levels of grappling the girl would win almost every time minus the chance of getting slammed onto concrete but i dont think there's any female grapplers that good. but there are small males who are.

>Female is very fit but not a trained fighter vs untrained man
she'll lose to any guy over about 150lbs just on bone density lol.
but these things can go either way. fighting is NOT intuitive. some untrained people tard out or can't handle pain so factors like that could swing it.

>Female is high skill level trained fighter vs average out of shape male physique and 6-12mo casually boxing on the weekends
if the man's decent he'll win every time, if he kinda sucks it'll be a competitive fight that could go either way.
Anonymous No.76502210
there are circumstances where the smaller less athletic fighter pretty much always wins. when it comes to striking, short guys with long arms are more dangerous than tall guys because the only big advantage to height is having more reach on average.
and, low weight class male trained fighter pretty much always beats untrained bodybuilder as long as he's decent. all the counter examples people quote me with when i say this are boxing matches where the bodybuilder trained for 6+ months and 6 months of boxing is a GULCH of skill gap over untrained. and they always cherry pick shit short fighters at the end of their careers.
Anonymous No.76502214
there are circumstances where the smaller (weight and/or height) fighter pretty much always wins. when it comes to striking, short guys with long arms are more dangerous than tall guys because the only big advantage to height is having more reach on average. if reach is equal the short guy's at an advantage and if the short guy outreaches that's just brutal. any short guy with a height to wingspan ratio around conor's or better who knows how to fight can probably beat any untrained man within 100lbs 999/1000 times if they're good.
and, low weight class male trained fighter pretty much always beats untrained bodybuilder as long as he's decent. all the counter examples people quote me with when i say this are boxing matches where the bodybuilder trained for 6+ months and 6 months of boxing is a GULCH of skill gap over untrained. and they always cherry pick shit short fighters at the end of their careers.
Anonymous No.76502218
>999/1000
in the ring. on the street on hard ground then a bodybuilder has a decent win condition against a short long reach trained fighter. becomes a tossup fight depends a lot what the short guy's wearing too.
Anonymous No.76502240 >>76502257
oh another one: woman would fare best in kickboxing or thai boxing gloves. in boxing gloves the hand size/weight becomes a bigger factor. and bare knuckle their bone density is a big problem.

>>76502183
yeah but only because he knows how to wrestle. grappling is mostly skill, physique and size doesn't matter if you don't know how to use it. bodybuilder loses to fighter half his size every time except on the street + grab and slam factor.

>>76501185
that too. in my example the woman would need to be an outlier in all these regards to be what i consider a 'high skill fighter' to begin with because yes most of them react slow. female would need to be a genetic freak but i can't dismiss the possibility because i'm a genetic freak outlier myself.
Anonymous No.76502257 >>76502278
>>76502240
>bodybuilder loses to fighter half his size
How come they have weight classes?

Also why has no one mentioned cardio?
Pretty much every non athlete would gas out under the 3 min mark. Combat sports need mad cardio
Anonymous No.76502278
>>76502257
>How come they have weight classes?
because mma originates from catch wrestling + freakshow fighting and ufc has gone to schizo levels to dissociate itself from its own history. also legal liability and getting fights sanctioned especially in new york. that's why i'm differentiating between fighting on a hard surface on the street and on a soft surface with rules.
obviously my exp isn't 1:1 but every guy who's started a fight with me has been 200+ and athletic, people don't tend to pick on people the same size kek. and i love to spar with big guys.

>Also why has no one mentioned cardio?
cause i'm baked. cardio's an enormous factor. gym bros who don't do cardio gas in 45 seconds, and yeah around 2-3min for smaller people. so if they have a win condition like grab or slam they have that long to do it.
Anonymous No.76502299 >>76502344
if a gym bro wants to beat basically anyone in a street fight all he would need to do is: do cardio, and casually box once a week for like 6mo if you're natural 12mo if you're not. and you're pretty much going to win every fight unless you pick one with a good amateur or pro fighter lol.
boxing is the fastest way to get good @ street fight/self defense because most of what you practice other than the ability to block your face with gloves translates 1:1. if you want to get good in a short amount of time box.
if you sink a ton of time into it mma or combat sambo would be best. sambo's a little better than mma but good combat sambo gyms are uncommon.
wrestling is great but if you didn't do it in high school its hard to learn.
bjj can be good if you focus on takedowns and takedown defense more than laying on your back and recognize its limitations. people shit on it but it depends how you train desu.
the more time you spend practicing stuff you would never do on the street (kicks etc) the worse a sport is at translating to irl fighting.
Anonymous No.76502344 >>76502347 >>76502348 >>76504017
>>76502299
>the more time you spend practicing stuff you would never do on the street (kicks etc) the worse a sport is at translating to irl fighting.
why wouldn't you do kicks IRL? A few leg kicks the fight is over, a good body kick and the fight is over.
Anonymous No.76502347 >>76502359
>>76502344
puts you off balance which opens you up to getting knocked out or even killed if its on concrete. there are soft surfaces in the real world so i should have said you situationally would not to. i also should have said most kicks, straight kicks and push kicks could be viable if you practice them and you're quick. leg kicks you can make a case for but im a kickboxer and i wouldn't on concrete.
most street fights rly are just decided by who gets the first punch and most of them are 100% boxing. indoors and enclosed areas grappling starts becoming infinitely less 'last resort'
Anonymous No.76502348 >>76502350 >>76502358
>>76502344
yeah pretty much anything that resembles kickboxing + enough grappling knowledge to not get immediately fucked by some guy who wrestled in high school is enough. you don't even have to be that good, you just have to know how to manage distance and demoralize angry people. a big teep will make most guys who decided they wanna fight you rethink it. anyways, it's best that you have just enough of this skill to keep yourself safe and don't think about it too much unless you really enjoy it as a sport. people who carry a gun and/or train fighting sports and go around inviting trouble are psychopaths
Anonymous No.76502350
>>76502348
agree.
its good to have hand to hand skills though. every fight i've been in i was fucked off minding my own business. there's times and places you won't have a gun, theres situations its illegal to brandish or use a gun but legal to punch someone, AND if you get taken off guard you may need to grapple a bit to draw your gun in the first place if you have one.
rly doesn't take much to skill gap 99% of people just do cardio in your routine and train something a bit once in your life.
Anonymous No.76502358
>>76502348
>you just have to know how to manage distance and demoralize angry people
knowing basic footwork and how to breathe and how to get hit in the solar plexus and not lose your air and how to take a punch without sperging out/crying/etc goes a long way. everything you learn in the first few months of sparring goes a looooong way.
Anonymous No.76502359 >>76502369 >>76502394
>>76502347
>im a kickboxer and i wouldn't on concrete.
Why? Do you fall over half the time in kickboxing class?
Anonymous No.76502369
>>76502359
high risk on concrete even if the odds of punishment are low. you never ever want to open yourself up to hitting your head on cement. if you actually watch videos of street fights they're almost all entirely boxing and end in the first few hits. you'll also notice that like 7/10 guys can't even throw a punch and most untrained v untrained street fights are magikarp used flail matches.
and yes other fighters can punish a kick watch any thai boxing match bro.
Anonymous No.76502394
>>76502359
on concrete the #1 priority in your mind should be not hitting your head and getting brain damage/dying. #2 is ending the fight fast because that's the best way to avoid #1 but #1 supersedes #2.
Anonymous No.76502399
also even on soft surfaces any time you're taken to the ground you're at the mercy of the bystanders not to dogpile your head with soccer kicks. even if the guy fighting you doesn't have friends there's situations in the real world. i've seen "he's the shooter! get him!!" swarms form on innocent bystanders several times watching le bodycam youtubes.
Anonymous No.76502401 >>76502960
even on soft surfaces any time you're taken to the ground you're at the mercy of the bystanders not to dogpile your head with soccer kicks. even if the guy fighting you doesn't have friends there's situations in the real world. i've seen "he's the shooter! get him!!" swarms form on innocent bystanders several times watching le bodycam youtubes. and its also how the typical chimpout goes down.
Anonymous No.76502408 >>76502423
>>76499714
it's /fit/ by "fit" he obviously means those who look good, not those who perform
Anonymous No.76502423 >>76502437
>>76502408
untrained: gymbro w/ cardio > athlete >>> gymbro w/o cardio
Anonymous No.76502437 >>76502442 >>76502446
>>76502423
yeah sure athlete is worse than gymbro keep telling yourself that
Anonymous No.76502442
>>76502437
i said the athletes better than the typical 0cardio gymbro. if both guys have good cardio and neither knows what they're doing the big one wins most times.
Anonymous No.76502446 >>76502473
>>76502437
if its a weight class fight the athlete wins. i was thinking no weight restriction. gym bros build the wrong muscle groups and wrong types of muscle for fighting. also the genetics you want for bodybuilding and fighting are opposite in many ways.
Anonymous No.76502473 >>76502509 >>76502515 >>76508029
>>76502446
>wrong muscle groups and wrong types of muscle for fighting.
Pleas expand
Anonymous No.76502509 >>76502517
>>76502473
most punches the force mostly comes from your hips, core, legs then the shoulders. a lot of stuff they train like arm muscles are tertiary in most punches and being too big can limit speed/range of motion.
granted most untrained people won't even know how to transfer force from their legs/hip/core to their punches which is why untrained people hit like a noodel even if they're kinda big.
Anonymous No.76502515
>>76502473
shredded guy with skinny ass arms and fat guy with a potbelly and skinny arms are both common knockout archetypes, people don't realize most of what goes into a punch comes from lower body and core strength or even just having a ton of mass at the core.
Anonymous No.76502517 >>76502522
>>76502509
Ah, that sounds a bit like golf. Once someone told me not to swing with my arms I started getting more distance
Anonymous No.76502522
>>76502517
very similar. the way to properly transfer a lot of force into a punch just isn't intuitive at all which is why i say even casual levels of exp is an enormous skill gap from untrained.
even just stuff like walking to the side without making yourself easily trippable isn't intuitive at all.
Anonymous No.76502578 >>76502831 >>76502837
>>76499515 (OP)
I would never lose to a female, no matter what she is or how weak and fat I am, 110 kg 2 meters of roids no matter, its still a child, or worse than one. she might try grabbing me but I would hurt her so much she would go back to being a bitch. sent back to the kitchen for sure.
Anonymous No.76502596 >>76507456
>>76501480
No, voting is done. Im seeing people do vandalism, assault, and harassment now. Voting doesnt work
Anonymous No.76502604
>>76501459
>>76501480
Anonymous No.76502831
>>76502578
after around 100lb gap its probably impossible for a woman to overcome. and female mma fighters cap at 145lbs so true. in theory if someone taught one of those she hulk motherfucker juiced out slavic bodybuilders then maybe.
the highest levels of low weight class male fighters will fuck you up, and some genetic freaks, if you're +100lbs juiced but untrained. you would probably fuck up most fighters below lightweight but the really high level guys like demetrious johnson would rape your anus most of the time and some of the genetic freak guys would give you a problem. assuming you are totally unskilled.
Anonymous No.76502837
>>76502578
after around 100lb gap its probably impossible for a woman to overcome. and female mma fighters cap at 145lbs so true. in theory if someone taught one of those she hulk motherfucker juiced out slavic bodybuilders then maybe.
the highest levels of low weight class male fighters will fuck you up, and some genetic freaks, if you're +100lbs juiced but untrained. you would probably fuck up most fighters below lightweight but the really high level guys like demetrious johnson would rape your anus most of the time and a genetic freak at dece amateur level would give you a problem. assuming you are totally unskilled.
Anonymous No.76502849
thats also assuming you're average in every way other than musculature and being juiced. if you have good genetics for fighting it could swing things. and you wouldn't have to be ~that~ trained to swing things against the small, high level trained guys. couple years casual prly.
Anonymous No.76502891
>>76501459
I think they might be in the wrong country
Anonymous No.76502937 >>76503340
>>76501480
>And if they were
even with spellcheck, you out yourself, incredible
Anonymous No.76502942 >>76505401
some notable size/weight gap fights:
demetrious johnson submits 6'3 248lb bjj brown belt at 5'3 155lbs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjFlM9hf74g
saenchai at 5'5 146lbs beats 6' 200lbs 3x muay thai world champion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Szr5cLdvhvM
gordon ryan (bjj) vs the hafΓΎΓ³r 'the mountain' bjΓΆrnsson (strongman), 100lb weight and 7" height gap submitted with bjj: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8hsjWF-b7o
oleksandr usyk (6'3 boxer @ 226) vs tyson fury (6'9 boxer @ 281) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl_uTR4htNQ
and theres several split decisions with 90+ weight gaps that are controversial like valuev vs holyfield and david haye vs nikolai valuev etc.
Anonymous No.76502960 >>76503033
>>76502401
Really depends on if you decide to gouge the guys eyes out when you have him in a choke to make him a non issue or not
Anonymous No.76503033
>>76502960
won't deny that. intentional eye poking is very good too the only reason not to go for it is if you think you can end it the first or 2nd time they open themselves up.
Anonymous No.76503112 >>76503130
>>76499515 (OP)
>what percentage...?
the bottom 25%
Even though the top 1% of female lifters and athletes could out lift/perform 90% men, the leverage and size advantage from being bigger and heavier closes the gap.
And that's not accounting for the intrinsic differences of reaction time and tendon strength with would skew the results even further in favor of men.
Anonymous No.76503130
>>76503112
if there were female fighters with the same fight iq and reaction times and shit as the best male fighters then ehh a heavier weight female athlete's gonna wipe most men larger than them.
but there aren't.
Anonymous No.76503134 >>76503146 >>76503159 >>76503380
>>76499515 (OP)
>What percent of the male population do you think the fittest top 1% of the female population could beat in a 1 on 1 fight?
Probably close to zero, but there are always invalids and complete dorks who can't even make a fist. Then again, they had dorks vs female MMA pros in Russia and the dorks won easily.

>>76499748
>>76499750
Olympics proved you wrong very harshly. Thankfully, actual women athletes aren't as stupid as you guys, so the unjuries rate was rather low in boxing and Judo.

>>76499756
Looking at the actual matches, autism rage is more of a female thing, really.

People ahve to realize that "a woman beating a guy in a fight" is somethig that only happens in the US (girls actually win male wrestling tournaments there) and is an absurd notion everywhere else. And even then it's only a thing for the last few years.
Anonymous No.76503146
>>76503134
women's fighting is still super niche and low paying so we haven't rly gotten a good sample size to see what high iq and genetic outlier ones can do.
Anonymous No.76503159
>>76503134
like an example.. most people agree that dj would roll bradley matryn (260lb juiced podcaster bodybuilder guy) and he's a tiny dude. i think if you put his brain in a female athlete body 'it' still beats most jacked guys. a woman having male reaction times isn't that crazy of an outlier given how big the global population is so all it would really take is his fight iq/experience transplanted.
Anonymous No.76503340
>>76502937
I don't use spellcheck cuck.
Anonymous No.76503366
>>76499515 (OP)
Didn't read thread but I feel like /fit/izens forget the average person worldwide lifts as much as they do and eats just as bad. Like most people are either malnourished skinnies or fat office workers.
Anonymous No.76503380
>>76503134
>girls actually win male wrestling tournaments there
what age group tho? between age 9-13 girls are actually larger and heavier then same age boys on average. This quicky gets changed after 13 and by 15 boys are noticble taller and heavier then same age girls.

There was a very autistic youtube channel that got removed that argued mixed gender wrestling was harmful for young boys since they dont know or dont want to go all out against a girl. That boys and girls wrestle differently (different techniques) and that boys avoid touching girls around the chest and groin and therefore were at a disadvantge in mixed gender wrestling. It even had a few videos where the author analysed several videos if the boy got a boner during the wrestling and if you visibly could see if the boy was uncomfterable during the match or did not want to continue the match when wrestling a girl.
Anonymous No.76504017 >>76505348 >>76505360
>>76502344
The most useful kick is a push kick or a low kick to the legs and most kicking martial arts do not practice those. A roundhouse or backspin are neat but very impractical for street fighting not even because of your opponents but because of your location. Slick, inclined cobblestone is not the same as mats. Its easier to control for such things in boxin
Anonymous No.76504209 >>76504292 >>76504329 >>76505643
>>76499515 (OP)
Pretty much just boys under 14 and men over 70, and even then there will be exceptions.

Imagine you had to fight against the strongest, fattest, roided up 450lb powerlifter in the world, and that he is also 8" taller than you. That's the kind of strength/durability gap we're talking about. between a top 1% woman and an average man.

Look at this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1haqkkVTtI
Anonymous No.76504292 >>76504491
>>76504209
>Imagine you had to fight against the strongest, fattest, roided up 450lb powerlifter in the world, and that he is also 8" taller than you. That's the kind of strength/durability gap we're talking about. between a top 1% woman and an average man.
This is completely nonsensical, the gap between the average woman and the average man is far less than the gap between the average man and a roided up 450lb powerfatty. Women are weak but the average man can't even bench 1pl8.
Anonymous No.76504329 >>76504491
>>76504209
The average man is not nearly as strong as you think.
Anonymous No.76504491
>>76504292
>>76504329
you've been watching too much capeshit
Anonymous No.76504550 >>76509021 >>76509048
>>76499544
Someone post the guy with one arm clearing a wall while women watch and mald
Anonymous No.76504575
>>76501480
>congresswoman
Anonymous No.76504642 >>76510784
>>76502132
I too would throw a game to feel out my female opponent. Except I would set myself up to be leg locked and refuse to tap out.
Anonymous No.76504873
90%

most are small, weak, scared, no kill instinct

in the military 1% do 99% of the killing

1% as a female.... underestimate her for a second and it's over, and she knows that and will play on that
Anonymous No.76505173
>>76501480
Poo eyes cope
Anonymous No.76505302
>>76499515 (OP)
Depends on whether you mean fittest or fittest+fighting ability. If it is just fittest, then we have to consider that the % of women that strength train at least twice a week is only 26.9%. I'll say the top 1% of female strength would be the top 80% of female openpowerlifting lifters, so a 99lbs bench, 185lbs squat and 231.5lbs deadlift, I'll say like 40-50% of men including myself can do this and above on day 1 in the gym so 40-50% of men can beat top 1% of women. If fighting ability is included then like 10-20%
Anonymous No.76505348
>>76504017
>push kick
samart payakaroon for textbook example of push kicks being used to great effect.
Anonymous No.76505360
>>76504017
>push kick
both these guys are masterclass in push kick's effectiveness: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDXP0rjSyT0
Anonymous No.76505401 >>76505831
>>76502942
All of these examples are not analogous to this scenario for one in the case of Saenchai the bigger guy's weight is increased to overexaggerate the strength difference, Adaylton Freitas weighs only 70kg(155lbs) in his fights and this specific fight he weighed 143lbs:https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/bouts/949207-muay-thai-warriors-saenchai-sor-kingstar-vs-adaylton-freitas, a 6ft guy at 143 or 155 is weaker than a 5'5 guy at that weight. In the case of mighty mouse vs the 6'3 guy, mighty mouse is literally a pro MMA fighter with years of experience similar to that of an 8th degree black belt vs a normie. The same applies to the rest the top 1% of female in terms of fighting ability isn't a world class fighter, it is way lower like a purple or blue belt in bjj
Anonymous No.76505643
>>76504209
Average height difference is 4-5in between average men/women
Body fat is more noticeableq
Top 1% woman in US is about 5'10.3(?) tall
Anonymous No.76505831
>>76505401
>mighty mouse is literally a pro MMA fighter with years of experience similar to that of an 8th degree black belt vs a normie
that's what i'm saying though. world class male level skill in a woman athlete's body would beat most guys up to a size cap.
a normal female athlete without the skill wouldn't do shit.
Anonymous No.76505838
>>76499515 (OP)
10% sounds fair
The really wimpy guys
Anonymous No.76507438
>>76499515 (OP)
15%
Anonymous No.76507456
>>76502596
Jeets are usually docile you have them confused with blacks and Porto reekans
Anonymous No.76508000
>>76499615
Anonymous No.76508029
>>76502473
Is he going to be ok?
Anonymous No.76508040
>>76499515 (OP)
What if she kicks my ass but I get my rocks off on having a strong woman beat me up? Who's the real winner THEN, huh?
Anonymous No.76508433
>>76502132
Female wrestlers use lotion.
Anonymous No.76508448
>>76499615
Pontificate the aroma
Anonymous No.76509021 >>76509048
>>76504550
I don't have it but it is pretty funny to see. During a tough mudder competition or something. The girls look so fucking pissed.
Anonymous No.76509048
>>76504550
>>76509021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl1H3Vj1e7k
Anonymous No.76509315
What does "fit" mean?

Does it mean she has high fighting iq?
Does it mean she has martial arts experience?
Does it mean that she could take part in a strongman's competition?
Does it mean that she's just "toned" and does calisthenics?
Anonymous No.76509370 >>76509443
>>76499515 (OP)
If normalized for weight, 0% with notable exception of trained combatants, then 100%, unless facing someone ewually trained.

Once you have 20kg of muscle advantage, which is the average what men have over women, then even trained combatant will struggle.
Anonymous No.76509382
>>76499515 (OP)
It’s no more than 50%, and that’s mainly due to enormous numbers of obese slobs. Turn the clock back 100 years and the answer is whatever percent of males are crippled or otherwise disabled
Anonymous No.76509443 >>76513817
>>76509370
A trained female can do nothing to an average male. "Average" mind you, not an invalid like the guys on here apparently.

Again, just look at the Olympics where really shit boxers that could have never made it in the mens' division, not even close, cleaned house effortlessly against the best female boxers in the world. They were never threatened in any fight they had. Or the Judo bronze from 4 years ago, the secret training of the German woman was training with boys. She knew that once she could edge out some wins against boys (not men), she was among the strongest women in the world, which was completely true.

I dunno what you guys are taking but don't try to get it through customs. Is this an American thing? Pretty lol, it shows you never had anything to do with women.

>>76502132
That's what I was talking about. Happens rather often in the US, for whatever reason. Literally doesn't happen in any other country in the world.

Anyway, i thought these US-tier threads would stop after the PAris Olympcis but apparently not lol.
Anonymous No.76509927 >>76511515
Anonymous No.76510265
>>76499515 (OP)
They can beat me, vigorously, but they must be bare knuckled and bare chested
Anonymous No.76510571
>>76499615
>Pike shirts at the gym
Don't they get mega uncomfortable when sweating? Being shirtless or wearing a cotton t-shirt is better than that
Anonymous No.76510784
>>76504642
Same
Anonymous No.76510799
>>76499515 (OP)
There are a lot of really pathetic men these days. I'd bet if a top 1% woman was really willing to hurt a guy she could probably beat at least 20% of men just by virtue of none of them being able/willing to fight back.
Anonymous No.76510899
>>76501480
They need to leave for a different planet
Anonymous No.76511190
Zero
Anonymous No.76511515 >>76511532
>>76509927
>high school
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/dKYlCVJ5R1o
https://thesportsgrail.com/who-is-mary-smith-as-cave-spring-high-school-wrestler-goes-viral-on-instagram-bio-age-height-weight-college-and-stats/
>mary smith
>18
>5'7 (170cm)
>160 (73kilo)
https://www.gigacalculator.com/calculators/height-percentile-calculator.php
>age group 18
>top 9th percentile for females
>bottom 28th percentile for males
Nigga she is way taller then the average female. She is 5 kilo heavier then the average 2023 female us marine while being 7cm taller and more then 10 years younger. >>76501394

She is 6 cm shorter then the average us male marine while being 5 kilo ligher. She is infact the top 9% of women
Anonymous No.76511532 >>76511577
>>76511515
forgot pic
Anonymous No.76511538
>>76502132
>Probably a large percentage. Female wrestlers beat even trained men pretty regularly
No, they don't it only happens in middle school and early high school and in the small weight classes like 120lbs or less. A girl at 106lbs to 120lbs can be quite strong while a boy at that weight is 100% going to be weak and underweight
Anonymous No.76511545
>>76499544
Or voted for Harris.
Anonymous No.76511552
>>76499608
It was the US international team. They lost 5-2 to an under 15 boys club from Dallas in 2017.
Anonymous No.76511559
>>76501459
The jeans, the polos, the baby weight, the shit form
Anonymous No.76511564
>>76502132
>regularly
Anonymous No.76511577 >>76511633
>>76511532
That squat is pathetic.
Anonymous No.76511633
>>76511577
For a man, yeah but for a woman? Pretty high but clearly there is difference between male and female strength levels. Good for a woman is meh for a man.
Anonymous No.76513148
>>76499515 (OP)
How do I get a gf like this
Anonymous No.76513156
>>76499532
this
Anonymous No.76513278
>>76499615
Can you guys stop mentioning India?
Anonymous No.76513373
>>76499515 (OP)
The lowest 5% or so, cripples, incels, people like that.
Anonymous No.76513398
>>76499515 (OP)
i knew a girl who was world champion at full contact karate. she was super fit and pretty tall for a girl. i'm just a normal small untrained guy. i was able to easily grab her a get her in a full nelson every time.
tldr. women are weak as shit.
Anonymous No.76513430
>>76499948
top 1% of women includes mma fighters on steroids, anon. A lot of men are weak. The statistic of men those 1% of women could axe is easily past 50% when you're including the young and elderly. Not every male on earth is 18-49.
Anonymous No.76513633
>>76500177
This. Some women really ARE stronger than the average man just by genetic luck, but it's rare and more importantly almost none of them have anything to prove against men to actively seek to go against them most of the time as their strength is natural to them and they aren't really in the mindset of having nothing to prove. However in pro athletics where everyone's the top 1 percent the men will always win as the top 1 percent of men will always trump the top 1 percent of women.
Anonymous No.76513817
>>76509443
Kinda. If you know what you are doing and the opposition just has raw strength, you can get some victories. Especially if you equalize for weight, which nullufies men being, on average, about 20kg heavier. Fats not considered.

The main thing women have going for them is that men are hardwired to not harm them, so they always, subconsciously, hold back.