Thread 76507068

as in, if you once got shredded some 10 years ago and you have been slacking ever since, if you pick up a bar now and train would your muscles grow as a faster rate than someone who also begin the same time as you but have never trained before?

Yes. Muscle cells, once created, do not die, they simply go dormant. So once reactivated you can more quickly gain muscle. Same is true for fat cells unfortunately.

just google it next time, nigga

>>76507068 (OP)
Yes, muscle fibers don't go away. The body does not eat muscle fibers and has no way of storing protein. Unless you're in a Palestinian tier starvation situation or get rhabdo, your body won't break down muscle fibers because it leaves harmful toxins in the body as a byproduct. You don't go "catabolic" if you take time off lifting or don't eat enough in a day. Your body will eat the glycogen stored around the muscle (it's carbs, it's supposed to and cycles it all out every 24hrs) and your muscle fibers will lose conditioning. So you will shrink and get weaker, however when you begin training again you bounce right back because the fibers are already there.

Lots of shills and lies in bodybuilding to sell you shit and make you think you need to be sucking down liquefied protein 24/7 but that's not the case. That does more harm to your organs and hormonal systems than good to your muscles.

>>76507220
Nice post anon. I'd never thought so deeply about the amount of fibers in a muscle. Thanks bro. Really inspiring stuff for a guy who goes back and forth on working out.

but fat cells are a thing too right. like if i was a fatty fat and lost the weight, i can become fat again easily

indidnt train good 10 years ago, i was doing brosplits and "having fun". fuck me

>>76507398
kind of, I think that's if you were really fat as a kid
when just getting kind of fat like bulking it should not be the case

>>76507220
based knower

>>76507361
>>76507068 (OP)
Look into myofibrillar packing, myofibrillar hyperthrophy and sarcoplastic hyperthrophy, anabolic window and localized vs globalized inflammation.

>>76507398
>>76507410
Fat cells shrink or expand as you lose/gain fat. But they have a maximum size. So if you gain so much fat that they are all at capacity, they eventually become unstable and will split to form new fat cells. Then when you lose weight again, you keep all those new fat cells around.
That's why former fatties have to stay on top of their diet for the rest of their lives. They've got all those extra cells sending signals for food that they wouldn't have had otherwise. So if they just wing it, chances are they blow back up.
We all have to pay for our sins, including gluttony.
>>76507068 (OP)
Yes, its easier to bounce back if you've trained in the past. I was a fat-ish teen. Then I was really fit in the military. Not hugely jacked, but lean and pretty strong, since endurance was typically more useful than raw strength alone. I got fat again after I got out and stopped working out and resumed eating like shit. Took ~11 months to drop the fat after that seven-year detour as a lardass, but once I got back in the gym, muscles all came back pretty quickly.

>>76507220
whoa that cat is fucking HUGE. is this real?

question
if i was a man, then trooned, then detrooned, does this still apply? so i have the same muscles i had before?

Yep. But the same thing happens with fat cells.

>>76507068 (OP)
I speak from experience
Yeah, you regain strength way WAY faster than you gain it the first time.
Takes months to regain what it took years to earn the first time

>>76507220
How TF did the cat get so swole??

>>76508679
Why would you troon in the first place?

>>76510267
just don't worry about it, answer my question please

>>76507068 (OP)
Yeah. Used to be unbelievably DYEl. Weighed 130lbs at 6 foot well into my early 20s.

wasnt in great shape but did some calesthenics and achieved 180 lbs of mostly muscle. Then i got a brain infection and almost died. I was bedridden and went to almost 150lbs and looked like an auschwitz survivor.

Once i was able to move, i got back up to 180 relatively quickly. I also have very high free T so maybe that helped. But i didnt have to go through the absolute slog i did in my early 20s again. I sorta just naturally reverted back to where i was with the least effort

>>76511928
So it took me about 6 years to go from 130 to 180.. and then when i got sick i basically got back to 180 within a couple of years.. not super fast but way faster. AND i was ill. With the after effects of almost dying