Thread 76510679

Here is my tip: run and then do some machines for your legs, specially your calves.
By following this, you will:
>be healthier
>avoid lower back injuries
>look lean and aesthetic
>be athletic
Do not fall for squats and deadlifts, only fat powerlifter with lower back pain care about it.

>>76510679 (OP)
>be me
>45
>230kg dl, 190kg sq
>run
>no back pain
OP is a faggot

>>76510679 (OP)
>Do not fall for squats and deadlifts, only fat powerlifter with lower back pain care about it.
Mainly because people never stop "progressing". I can't think of anything 400lb in nature that someone would need to lift that has a convenient 1" handle. Or a common situation where you need to squat or leg press 300lb.

If you weren't evolved to do it, don't do it.

>>76510679 (OP)
Why? Are you suggesting that squats and deadlifts will clog my arteries?

>>76510691
Did we evolve to drive cars?

>>76510679 (OP)
I'm 29 and never had sex. I do squats and deadlifts to make my ass sexy.

>>76510708
If you have to be heavier than 250lbs to perform heavy squats/deadlifts, you are unhealthy and fat

>>76510679 (OP)
>>76510776
>schizo non sequitur
Stop listening to the voices in your head, and stop posting your stupid opinions here.

>>76510781
Powerfatter cope

>>76510776
I'm 319lbs 6'1 and I mog twinks hard. Even 5'7 guys are 250lbs nowadays and still bulking, it isn't that hard.
Natty too btw if I was roiding I could get to like 370
>>76510787
Sour grapes. Eat more little twinkie it isn't that hard to eat XL hawaiian pizzas every other day

>>76510803
You are obese, unhealthy and mentally ill

>>76510683
fr OP is a faggot, lifting heavy increases joint health (to compensate for the weight), bone density, etc. all things that help in old age so you aren't a frail fuck

>>76510839
sounds like OP still lifts which still does all that. But, he's annoyed that the men that he's sexually attracted to only want to know how much he can squat.

>>76510691
Then why the fuck do my muscles grow when I lift heavy shit, dumbass? If my body didn't adapt to stress then THAT would be a biologically marker to stop. Some my body doesn't stop growing, I don't stop lifting. Simple math you fuck.

>>76510776
I'm 190 and regularly rep 405squats for 6-8 and dead 495 easily

>>76510691
So your argument is that exercise should be functional and lifting 400 pounds with a perfect bar is not functional.

You're strength doesn't evaporate just because it's not the exact same weight lifted in the exact same manner you fucking moron. We evolved to pick things up. Strengthening your back and hamstrings makes picking things up easier and lowers risk of injury.

>>76510691
there is an ancient set of comics in which specific gym exercises were found in the wild
i remember a calf raise, chest fly, deadlift were all included
i think farmer walks as well?
surely a fellow oldfag remembers these. we're talking 2012 era

>>76510679 (OP)
Unironically wish I'd never touched deadlifts desu. Been dealing with a disc bulge for months

>>76510946
This is what these guys fail to understand. Back pain is NOT normal and most people should avoid putting so much stress on their lower backs. It takes everything you have away and gives you nothing in return.
Legs are supposed to make you mobile, fast, agile and explosive. You can get there running/sprinting and doing some auxilliary exercises. Heavy squats and deadlifts on the other hands are a hoax that make you fat, unhealthy and ugly.

>>76510972
Yep. Not remotely worth the risk. Always makes me laugh seeing smug cunts acting like they will never get hurt ever. All it takes is one off rep and you've fucked up your shit for a long time. Should have just started from the jump with BSS and single leg RDLs.

>>76510679 (OP)
imo bodyweight squat variations like shrimp squat, pistol squat, bulgarian split squat, jump squat, sissy squats etc. are all very good for leg strength
no reason to load up the spine for health/aesthetics/performance

>>76510935
You can’t strengthen your spinal discs however
Just because your muscles can do something doesn’t mean they should
To begin with we have limiters in our brain that prevent us from doing stupid shit like lifting heavy weights even though we could
You’re bypassing those limiters by training your muscles regularly but some things can’t be trained and they’re not meant for these loads

>>76510679 (OP)
Machines make weak men look strong...

>>76510766
>Did we evolve to drive cars?
I did.
>>76510873
>Then why the fuck do my muscles grow when I lift heavy shit, dumbass? If my body didn't adapt to stress then THAT would be a biologically marker to stop. Some my body doesn't stop growing, I don't stop lifting. Simple math you fuck.
Because you evolved to grow muscle when muscle is stressed. That doesn't mean your joints evolved to handle 400lb lifts and if they fail, you're fucked.
>>76510935
>Strengthening your back and hamstrings makes picking things up easier and lowers risk of injury.
To a point, but pro athletes where physical exertion is used wear out their bodies. I put my money where my mouth is and do pretty light deadlifts and even lighter squats if I do them.

I lift at home and only have 127.5kg weights in total (280lbs) I have thought about buying more plates, but why would I? I have big legs anyway, and the strength after that point is unlikely to ever be practical. I'm just progressing my bench to that weight and I'll maintain. I squat and deadlift it already

>>76510679 (OP)
Machines are superior, it's as simple as that.

>aaaaahhhh my back is made of glass if I pick stuff up off the ground my spine will explode aaaaaahhh ahaaagghgghhg i cant squat with weight on my shoulders or i will die aaaaiiiieeeee
>what? train my lower back directly? no way bro squatU says that will snap ur shit up

>>76510679 (OP)
>run and machines
I'm going to give you the biggest redpill of all.
You do not have to run.
Ever.
You never have to run.
You never have to jog.
Walking does all you need without destroying your joints.
Increase progressive overload by rucking. Start out with 10-15% of your body weight or you'll destroy your tendons like running would.
You'll build massive cardio and body muscle from doing just this.
Then you can do body weight squats, high volume.
You'll be fucking huge and all the bitches will want to slob your knob.

>>76512031
you got it. Just build more volume. Bigger muscles do way more for you than stronger muscles. You've reached maintenance mode.
Enjoy, friend.
You made it.

>>76512934
Thanks fren, feels good

>>76510679 (OP)
This is the final red pill tbqhfamalam

>>76510679 (OP)
>mfw probably at least a few guys will fuck up their backs for life just because a few e-statters came to flex about their sumo dls and quarter squats and called OP faggot for being sane and health conscious
and the cycle of insanity goes on

>>76510679 (OP)
Machines > freeweights. Universal truth of bodybuilding.

>>76510946
So you're retarded? You should be regularly backing off deadlift intensity

>>76510679 (OP)
>running
I got a gimped knee, can I ride a bike instead to get calves?

>>76510679 (OP)
post physic?

>>76510679 (OP)
Just don't fucking overdo it like an idiot. Deadlifts though are unnecessary and not worth the risk if you don't know what you are doing with them.

>>76510691
The corpse of the animal you killed which you need to move to your shelter.