Thread 76512155

Thread for the discussion of steroids and ancillaries, fuck off natty’s and sarm faggots, there’s a wiki but it’s on Reddit and for faggots.
>it seems our superiority has led to some controversy

My tamoxifen pct gave me terminal velocity acne
I started taking 20 mg of isotretinoin (accutane) a day, but it subsided on its own anyway, and now it's too late
I don't want to die.......

>>76512175
I see we’re off to a good start

>>76512186
Better than another 300lb lard golem asking what orals and sarms to take to get shredded in two months

>>76512189
That was pretty funny tbf there was at least three anons shitting on him that weren’t me who was also calling him a fat retard

What's your skincare routine?

>>76512155 (OP)
What's everybody running rn? I'm at a happy point where I don't feel like bulking this winter for extra mass, finally happy with how much muscle I have on my frame. Gonna chill and stay around 9-12% bodyfat.
>>76512189
>dbol elemental golem blocks your path
wyd

>>76512196
>pin everyday even with long esters
>suddenly have no acne and clear skin
Whudda thunk

>>76512195
they hated jesus because he spoke the truth

>>76512196
scrub and face wash in shower. pha/aha whatever on face, and pore cleanse chest/arms. then i mixed ghk-cu/snap-8/that acid thing for my face, face serum, face lotion with spf, and a cream. cocoa butter for the rest of the dermis

>>76512155 (OP)
when the soi kicks in

taking 2 grams of test this blast, never took more than 1 gram and holy fucking shit is all I can say.
holy fucking shit the growth is unreal
holy fucking shit

>>76512784
>the bloat is unreal
We know.

>>76512917
yes 2 grams of test doesnt grow muscle at all, its all water weight
dipshit
Also I know how to manage estrogen. Maybe that's not something you learned from whatever tiktok faggot told you take 250mg bitch doses just to look like a slightly bigger natty

>>76512195
>>76512189
I'm down 3lbs since I made that post, terminally online seethers

Really doesn't matter, I was expecting a bit of actual advice but all I run into is a bunch of seething faggots for some reason, I'm sure you will have the lofty title of taking 5x more gear than me and still being smaller than me when I get down to 220lbs, congrats

And cardarine rules, another day skipped lunch, easy 1500 calorie day again

>>76513068
try not to eat all the protein and healthy snacks, the rest of us need to hit our macros of somewhere under 10,000 cals a day
Isn't it crazy to think that you could eat 3 people's worth less of food and still be over 2000 calories a day
haha weird

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS

>>76512784
my last blast was 1.5 test, 800 deca. switched to 1.5g test, 1g tren. good stuff. 240lbs lean next blast bby!

>>76513068
>I was expecting a bit of actual advice
Wrong thread
I was once naive like you too
This thread will never give you a proper advice

>>76514336
>500mg test as the newbie cycle
>don't bother with sarms or be 300lbs of blubber and roid
Yeah bro horrible absolutely fake advice

>>76513068
Good for you bro, it was just a bit of banter, at the end of the day do whatever you want, don’t touch aromatizing compounds until you’re much thinner tho it would be a headache, I’d also suggest adding l-carnitine 3g oral 2 hrs pre cardio

>>76512155 (OP)
Hey bros been blasting and cruising test + primo for like 18 months now with pretty good success. Probably gonna blast after I finish cutting for another couple weeks. Been fucking with low dose anavar as PWO for a long time, but I always cycle it since it fucks my lipids after a bit.

What would a fun oral compound to throw in for a few weeks just for the fuck it of it to put on a lil more size when I start my blast? 40mg var is cool but I kinda wanted to try dbol or anadrol or something. Don't really wanna inject anything else considing primo 100mg/ml takes a ton of oil space in the syringe.

I'm thinking of being a human guinea pig and making some experimental PE cream I found in a really obscure reddit post for around 50 dollars.

I can almost guarantee the cream will work, but whether it works safely I'm putting my trust into a redditor and GPTs hand that the formula actually makes sense.

Should I just do it?

>>76516494
you niggers will do anything except pin test and lift weights

How to undo (skin) collagen depletion from smoking?

>>76516508
what does that have to do with anabolic steriods, you dumb fuckface?

>>76516527
Oh i dont fucking know retard, HGH? Maybe some peptides i havent heard of? Go fuck yourself

>>76516494
What the fuck is a PE cream
>>76516508
Stop smoking, take collagen and GH (or IGF-1 directly)

>>76516455
dbol & tren

>>76516503
I do pin test and lift. The cream is for the dick.

>>76516535
Penis enlargement. It's an anti-lox. Anti-lox makes your tendons and whatnot stretchy. They did an experiment where they gave rats anti-lox and penis pumps and the rats dicks grew 24% in like 7 weeks.

The problem is anti-lox making your tendons and whatnot stretchy would also mean it's risky for overstretching in other areas. The cream is based on one already on the market and some formula a redditor came up with to nullify the consequences by using the cream and making it able to penetrate the skin with supposedly no toxicity. GPT seems to think the math of the post adds up.

Essentially the idea is to just rub some cream on your meat to make it stretchy then use a penis pump to stretch it out.

>>76516494
what... like dsmo & pge1?

>>76516558
where's you find an anti lox?

>>76516566
Making the cream myself based off NDGA

https://www.fishersci.com/shop/products/nordihydroguaiaretic-acid-97-thermo-scientific/AAL0314903

I'm having GPT walk me through if what was said here is feasible or not.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheScienceOfPE/comments/1jpw3xb/comment/mmuncz7/


I've actually heard about the Anti-lox scar treatment when researching in the past, the conclusion being it probably wasn't potent enough. Hence the idea of a DIY.

any one hyper-respond to EQ as an AI? On my second cycle and on the first E2 was 150 at one point on just 350 test only per week. This one i'm at 500 test, 200 eq, and about 1000 HCG per week. I was only a month in at my last blood test and my LC/MS/MS E2 test showed me at 8.6??? My hematocrit was also 48 when first cycle it had gone as high as 55. wtf is going on here this doesn't make sense. Is eq faked often, like how sometimes mast is loaded with anastrozole?

>>76512155 (OP)
fit

>>76516623
>hyper-respond
no such thing
>this doesn't make sense
yes it does
>mast is loaded with anastrozole
where do you retards come up with this shit?

>>76516535
Thanks. Ill do collagen and hgh. Any thoughts on retinol as well? I average like 3 to 4k in disposable income a month so I don't mind spending

>>76516676
why even bother solving the captcha?

>>76512205
I'm in the same boat. About 215 lbs @ 10% so I'm just cruising at 250 test / 150 eq with 3iu GH a day.

>>76516455
40mg of Superdrol

>>76516710
GHK-Cu
Bromelain
MK-677 (Only in a bulk, and only if your blood sugar and A1C are solid)
Collagen is a meme unless all forms are present AND taken w/Vit C so you can't take unless you have with last meal of the day (Vit C PostWorkout kills gains as you kind of want a bit of muscle inflammation after an intense workout).

What is the best steroid cycle for a beginner? I'm considering doing eight weeks of 300mg Deca + 200mg test per week, then four weeks of 100mg test per week.

>>76516904
I usually tell everyone the standard do 250mg of test e per week for 10 weeks, see how you feel and watch your health, then if you want to do more test or try other things go up. Though a little deca never hurt anyone.

This fag said he is doing a gram of primo, 150 test, and taking estrogen pills. Is that trolling or is there some logic in taking estrogen? I really don't get it

>>76517020
because if he said he was taking a bunch of test and tren like everyone else nobody would click his videos so has to come up an exciting new gimmick for monetized views.
And everyone believes everything they see on tiktok with out question. Any one who does question it is treated like a modern day heretic.
you know Arnold only took low dose primo and few dbols? its true!

>>76517020
I don't think primo is a real AI, more like a SERM so he shouldn't be needing extra estrogen. Aside from that, estrogen is probably the most important part of how you're doing mentally on cycle but some people have a lot of trouble getting the right level. He might be thinking he's crashing his estrogen and exogenously dosing to the perfect level.

>>76517072
yeah I guess I am just not sure as to why he wouldnt just increase the test to get the e2 up. Maybe blood pressure concerns or hair loss concerns he is trying to avoid I am guessing

>>76516994
Thanks desu

>>76517137
As long as he's been juicing I don't think it's his problem but again people have trouble dosing their AI or just controlling E2 in general. They can't just increase/decrease test it can fluctuate a lot for them so a surefire way of dialing it in is crashing your natural production to 0 and taking it exogenously.

Rate my cycle

Week 1-15
>500mg Deca
>250mg Test

Week 16-20
>250mg Test

How bad can I expect the crash to be from couple weeks on anavar only? Doing a recomp on low dose HGH. I want to add anavar at the beginning for 6-8 weeks. Will HCG+PCT+being on low dose HGH during PCT prevent me from losing as more/more from the anavr as zi receive?

>>76512155 (OP)
Sup /fraud/ I just got off my pct for my last cycle (450test/w 40var/d) and Im considering my bulk from the start of October.

After twelve weeks on test and var I noticed a little hair loss but it's all come back now I'm off cycle (Cute lil hairs on my hairline sprouting back in)

I was considering running test and EQ but it was most likely the test that caused the minor hair loss since I dropped var due to a work trip overseas.
EQ takes like ten plus weeks to notice so I was wondering about a faster cycle.

Doea anyone recommend test P and then a fairly aggressive roid to get a really quick cycle done and dusted before my hair has a chance to run away? I can't get hold of primo right now sadly.
Normally I use test c or e, so I'm not sure if test p is worth it since the pip might limit my lifting.

Only other choice would be a longer cycle but I take fin at the same time.
Pic related 2/3/4/5 for reps

>>76517293
Stop cycling. B&C is the one true path. The Var is probably what caused hairloss not 450mg of test a week.

>>76512155 (OP)
>took ecdysterone pill
What am I in for?

>>76517250
Pretty good, I think

>>76517293
If this is a recent pic, I wouldn't suggest a bulk but a cut.

>>76516558
Nigger you will tear your dick off

>>76516610
did the supplier give you grief? or did you just give some fake business info, and they dutifully mailed it out?

>>76516904
nigger.... 500mg test a week is the basic bitch blast. do 750 if you don't think that's enough. stick to test only first blast, 'cause you gotta see how it's gonna effect you. adding more muddies that. and do 20-24 weeks. 12 is pointless. 100mg/week is trt dosage -- you'll just be killing your natural production to have the same test level you did natty

>>76517250
i... why not bump test when you drop deca? why even drop deca completely?

>>76517258
you'll be supressed. you'll lose the gains. just pin test ffs

>>76517543
nothing lol it doesn't do anything.

>>76516994
>250mg of test e per week
That's like a trt dose, no?
Not enough
My first cycle was 1000mg EQ + 100mg test p EOD + tbol
Lol

>just found out you can inject Test C. subQ

lmao okay there is seriously no reason not to roid

are the risk of acne really that bad or you guys are just memeing
its getting annoying reading all that shit no knowing if its serious posters or trolls
i was about to start my eq masteron test e cycle and now i just dont know if its god warning me or just trolls scaring me

its so unfair guys, people like jeff seid, nippard, sulek, hussein and israetel spam steroid like no one would believe and yet they get 0 acne at all, what are they gatekeeping

>>76519620
did you have body acne during puberty? That is the important question. Like I personally had zero body acne ever in my life. I had it mildly on my face in middle school. Juicing gave me only a very small uptick in acne. If pueberty wrecked you then yeah be careful with it. Once the acne goes terminal you are fucked for life.

>>76519743
wtf is terminal acne, i dont read that outside of /fit/, are you talking about conglobata? you can get that from gears?!?

>>76519718
sulek is literally covered in acne you nigger

and they are hiding luck

>>76519857
clear skin stop lying
what drug are they gatekeeping from the masse to prevent all the acne?

>>76519871
you are a stupid nigger

>>76519620
>>76519743
Acne is curable and terminal acne isn't real unless you're a fucking retard that lets yourself get an infection
>>76519871
(iso)tretinoin, topical NSAA/estrogen, skincare

>>76519774
do not feed the trolls

Aren't there levels of suppression like if your levels are at 1500 you would be less suppressed than someone with 10k taking grams a week

Also receptor downregulation, isn't it just flat retarded to blast so much unless you're a pro of course, because then you become desensitized to such a huge amount

surgery went fine. did 4 weeks pct leading up to it. fresh bloods next week to see where i natty levels landed. they were already abysmal before i started roiding, so I'm sure they'll be amazing now. getting fat now though, so i hopped back on the tirz train. i'm just so burned out on tracking shit, so, fuck it. got a kit just sitting there collecting dust, so i might as well use it. oddly, today was my first time pinning subq. i used to mix it (shut up, ghoul) with other peps, and pin im

will I turn into the human torch when I take t3 tomorrow, I work as a school bus driver in the illinois heat and I'm 297lbs

I believe I'll survive, but how hot will I get bros

>>76520653
>297
Genuinely, how the fuck do you guys do this? I bulked up to 235 on tren and dbol, and I was eating at least 4k calories day. How the fuck do you manage to get this fat?

>>76520663
I gave up on humanity for like 6 years and did nothing but play video games and sit in a chair

then at 325lbs I decided I should actually get my shit together, there is really no good excuse for it, I was hopeless and jobless, then I got a job, which I like and is easy, and then I decided yea I don't want to die and I want to get back to some level of normalcy

Is 300 a non meme dose of tren?

>>76520663
Why do low appetite runts always say this shit. Bro you are literally a beta. You evolved to have low appetite so that you could survive off the alphas scraps.

>>76520676
fair enough. I wouldn't bother with t3, it's really only useful when you get in low 10's for bodyfat. Spend your next paycheck on some test and ret.
>>76520686
>300
Decent, depends on how you react. I know quite a few guys who get extremely agitated even at a low dose, when I feel fine at 700. I get retarded at like a gram, can't think straight, only workout eat and try to fuck.

>>76520552
blastin a ton as a non pro is retarded because you 100% are fucking up big time on something that us peasants wouldnt put so much effort in to. your diet sucks. your routine sucks. your sleep sucks. your adherence to the routine sucks. your form sucks. you accessory lifts suck. your hydration sucks. probably other shit sucks too. then after all that's perfect, you're probably just not at a level that warrants high dosages. are you 260 lean? didn't think so. you don't need 5 grams a week. taking more doesnt magically grow muscle faster

has anyone bought anything from nextchems, one of connor murphies recommendations

I've bought a ton of shit off swisschems

but nextchems has 60 20mg of tadalafil for like 50 bucks, which is pretty much the best price I've seen

it's weird because my account hasn't been charged yet but it should show up on the 20th, seems legit but just weird

>>76520690
Fags like you literally need GLP's to get lean lmao. Oh wait, you'd never cut because your perma bulking.

>>76519620
Bro I’m from a small island in the pacific and the white man brought roids to my village soon after all the woman were pregnant and all the man had contracted terminals cases of cystic acne, not only did they die within nine months and never get to see their rape babies, the babies themselves were born with cystic acne and may not see their first trip around the sun. I only survived because I was attending school in Australia ironically pursuing a degree in sports science much like my hero Dr. Mike Istreatel, perhaps if I had been there I could have warned them but alas it was not to be, beware the White man and his steroids very bad very bad

>>76520716
I'm cutting and 20mg of cardarine is working pretty well, in addition to tesofensine and typical sarm cycle

I've heard rad140 kills appetite so that will be my next cycle

I also have high hopes for t3 helping my cut

>>76520663
GOCAD (gallon of coke a day)

Masteron might be the closest PED to recreational drugs. Holy shit, there's just a mild underlying sense of euphoria every day. I've never gotten any mental effect from any other PED, not even deca or high test

>>76520712
>taking more doesnt magically grow muscle faster
yes it does.
Everything you just spouted is bullshit you made up in you head for you to be angry at.

>>76520716
let's see your awesome lean body that you have year round from you le epic discipline

>>76520552
>Aren't there levels of suppression
Yes but generally supranatural doses will lead to supranatural suppression so it doesn't really matter once you hit rock bottom
>Also receptor downregulation
Meme, if this was a thing then it would take effect very quickly, not over years and decades

>>76520676
hell yeah! start with semaglutide, then, when it's effectiveness inevitably wanes, upgrade to tirzepatide, then retatrutide. you can get them cheaply through chinese ran domestics. just don't continue to eat your current diet. sema it helps slow your digestion. tirz kills your apetite

>>76520686
350 is fine for many people. you're good

Should I take any Aromasin on pic related cycle/high dose trt?
I’ve been taking reta for a month, now at 4mg twice weekly

>>76516455
anadrol or superdrol

>>76521161
cardarine is working really well for me and my first day of t3 is tomorrow, I have several months supply of this stuff, basically 6 months worth

I think I've lost 10lbs since I got on cardarine a month ago

>>76521232
REEEEE ANSWER ME

>>76521678
>100 test npp and reta

bro you are gonna wake up with giant boobs LOL

>>76521232
you're probably fine. read the e2 infographic, and watch for signs

>>76521145
i don't know why you responded to my gibberish. you're still not gonna get huge after a single blast, and you still need to dial your shit in long before you'll ever need grams of gear

>>76521841
Why are you lecturing me on how to use to roids?
You're natty. You dont even lift

>>76521165

Ageeed. I keep my tren doses low and slowly build up (enanthate not ace). Happy spot for me with no sides is sub 500mg a week.

>>76519517
Have fun pushing anything over .2 ml subq.

>>76521875
so ill just do it twice at different locations if need be. Takes seconds

>>76521848
damn! i've been found out
>>76521854
ah nice! i'm hoping to find my sweet spot next run. at a gram i was about to run someone off the road because they were doing 10 under in passing lane. 750 lost the anger. 490 was down to running hot, but still high bp. hind sight maybe i should have titrated up.... nahhhh

>>76519774
>you can get that from gears
You can get terminal acne from gears of war

t3 is pretty strong, I was legit high until a kid left his paper on my bus I've already given him twice and it pissed me off

solid, thick and tight

I have another question I'm eventually going to get blood tests but hypothetically if I had the same test I had 10 years ago which was 217ng/dl, since I'm taking 10mg ac262 and 12.5mg enclo per day, would it just be like a trt dosage, sometimes I feel supraphysiological but most of the time not as much, if I had to predict what it would be I'd say 800-1500 but I have no way of knowing

>>76520663
>How the fuck do you manage to get this fat?
Drinking calories and eating sweets and ice cream
It's really weird you don't know how easy it is to get fat
Eat sweets, junk food and drink cola and (or) beer every day. BAM, you're fat in several months
Also lack of physical activity slows down your metabolism as well, which "helps" getting fat even further
When you're active, lift and do cario you naturally can eat more without getting fat

I know no source talk but..

>pls someone give me a source I've never even bought weed before this is nerve wracking

>>76523620
Does your metabolism get damaged from being sedentary for too long?

>>76523937
you lose muscle mass, so yes

>>76523802
Pls respond.

>>76523802
>>76524089
>asking for source on fed honeypot
Shiggy diggy

>>76524116
Tell me where to go to find a source or something. I mean for creatine and legal supplements of course.

>>76523937
Your body always wants to save energy and slow down metabolism so of course. Your body WANTS to get fucking obese and die from cardiac arrest because it's retarded. It's just designed like that
So yeah, no activity = slow metabolism = getting fat is easier
>>76524031
Losing muscle is just another "symptom" of that. Your body doesn't want to have muscles that require energy just to "be". It wants to eat that sweet protein and get fucking fat
Very nigger behavior if you ask me

>>76524245
>Your body WANTS to get fucking obese and die from cardiac arrest because it's retarded. It's just designed like that
Kek
Our cavemen ancestors didn't have the ability to feast and live a life while being sedentary all day

Some of you were talking about chem pe and dick gains with potaba a couple threads back. I am trying to find this shit since it seems to be the form used in the research about it, vs just paba which lacks the potassium aspect. It seems literally not to exist anymore. Are you all just using PABA or is there some obvious way of synthesizing or acquiring POTABA that I'm missing?

>>76524353
Fuck retarded cavemen, I don't care
I want to eat junk food, drink beer, sit all day and be swole
Is it that much to ask?

>>76524471
You can eat but proportional to the work you do
As they say, you reap what you sow

>>76524383
Isn't paba the same as potaba?

>>76524503
>but proportional to the work you do
That's the catch
I don't want to lift or do cardio
I hate lifting. I only do it because I can't just stop now and lose all that hard gained muscle
Fuck fucking protein, fuck omega3 and other shit, I want to spend money on things I like, not fucking expensive gear

Fuck lifting

>>76524537
Then don't lift
Why would your body expend energy to keep something it doesn't need?

>>76524546
>Then don't lift
Nah
Can't give up being swole

>>76524546
>Why would your body expend energy to keep something it doesn't need?
I mean, your body literally doesn't need overdeveloped muscles unless you give it the stimulus to keep them
Once you stop, you lose it
Exactly because your body doesn't want to expend energy keeping muscles

Just got a ton of primo and anadrol for the next blast, lets go boys

>>76523600
what's the question? you had low t, but now you think your enclo has raised it, and you want opinions on what your test level is now? that's one of those gonna vary drastically for each person kind of things. for example, i'm a shitty responder, and people take half what i do for the same test levels

I just got aromasin for the first time by accident instead of arimidex. Is there a practical difference between the two?

>>76524165
my dude, you can literally google it

>>76525013
aromasin is suicidal so it'll take 3 weeks to clear out of your body

>>76525013
one is suicidal, and the other isnt. i can't keep it straight.... if you crash your e2 on asin, it'll take longer for it to come back, so you'll feel like shit longer. theyre used for the same purpose though, so youre good. just read up on dosage

I'm coming up on a short cutting cycle for 3 months on test, and I was planning on padding it out with 6 weeks of tbol 50mg per day.

Should I do the tbol at the start or towards the end?

>>76524533
Yea
>>76525009
Yea just a general opinion of how much 10mg ac262 and 12.5mg enclo would raise your test

>>76524165
im not going to give you a source but theres a forum called Steroid Source Talk (SST) where people talk about and review sources. Do not go for the overpriced bullshit sponsored sources. Do your research. My source is talked about on there but isn't a major topic. Try to go international if you want decent prices.

>>76525329
Are any of you retards actually capable of THINKING through a problem?
When are you more likely to need more anabolics, at the beginning of cut when everything is still easy or at the end of a cut when you've been in a prolonged deficit and your body is struggling to hold on to lean mass?

Short woman with big asses are the hottest, you can pick them up and toss them around and they usually have nice fat pussies, get me fucking diamonds, that is all.

Bros I gotta pool party friday coming up. On 300mg test 200mg primo rn and want to look diced so I am finishing my cut with like 1000 calories daily. I am already pretty damn lean, maybe 12% or so.

I have a good amount of var and anadrol on hand (never used drol tho)... With 2 days left till the pool party on friday morning, what is gonna make me looked the most jacked by then?

Continue to suicide cut until then? Or try to eat in a surplus for glycogen in muscles? I am feeling a bit flat now because of the cut.

Do I do 40mg anavar 50mg anadrol, work out in the morning with some carbs on Friday to fill out? Thoughts? Just trying to looked diced but full in the muscles by friday morning.

>>76525819
I'd rather pay more and get my gear in 2-3 days then go international to save money. Then again I'm impatient.

>>76521878
Just sack up and pin with a 23g. Pushes grams into your body in seconds.

>>76526371
Mogging everyone at pool parties is not hard unless it's for some kind of sports team. I just went to a local one and everyone was fat as all hell.
>t. Burgerstani, not even rural

>>76526410
Especially when you're older like me (mid 40's). 215 lbs @ sub 10% just isn't a thing for old dudes. Most are like 18% and up.

>>76526371
Youre on gear. If your not mogging everyone it's because you're 5'4 and people will just laugh at the ripped angry Manlet

>>76519268
whatever pussy when I'm on the gain train to pussytown I won't look back to remember you

>>76517293
Oof. I've seen Natty's with better physiques and you are losing your hair hahahahhahhahahhahhahhahahhahhahahhahhahahahhahahahahhahahahah

Do you guys think that all the test I'm doing is causing my face swelling or the GOCAD I'm doing for my bulking?

>>76526428
This is how people view roiders in general. Imagine if he focused on something useful instead.

>>76526371
diuretic. piss out as much water as you can. just try not to die

>>76526614
Yeah but we're all retards who never really grew up and the gym became our safe space.
I'm always amazed when other roidheads want to take their shirt off I'm public. Like, most people find you repulsive. The male version of a poorly done massive fake tit bimbo.

>>76526558
>GOCAD I'm doing for my bulking
Did they mix GOMAD and ORCAD into Gallon Of Chicken A Day or something? kek.

Whatever it is, sounds like some new stupid monodiet that fucks up all your lipids and vitamins.

>>76525881
Ah, so what you're saying is do it at the start of a cut to retain strength gains.

Thanks dickhead

>>76526663
It's Gallon of Coke a day.

>>76526676
Oh lawd jeebus. At least GOMAD had enough calcium and no phosphoric acid problems. I stick to more like gallon of coke a month and gallon of kombucha and milk a week.

Is 20mg var low enough to run for 16 weeks instead of 8/10 in a blast alongside other stuff. Please no babby dose responses I guarantee I look better than you

>>76526712
And that's why no one will remember your name while I ascend to the ultimate bloatlord

>>76526747
I tried that with the TIRPAD diet; three instant ramen packets a day (plus a lot of other stuff). Ended up with pre-beetus that reversed pretty easily when I started rooning again, kek.

>>76526371
>Or try to eat in a surplus for glycogen in muscles?
That sounds like a good idea actually
Won't get fat in several days
But having glycogen will make you bigger
Dunno, man, don't sweat it, you already look fine
You should probably eat. Having energy for a party is better than being a low energy zombie

>>76526652
>most people find you repulsive
Bullshit
Men are mirin'
Women are wettin'
I'm not memeing, it's a fact. Most women will be attracted to you (if you're not ugly that is). That doesn't mean they will jump on your dick, but they glance on you
And men will think you're an alpha even if you're an insecure beta

Anybody have experience buying international from Australia?
Presumably vials will always be stopped by customs
What about testogel?

Yeah, I started running gear thinking I’d finally look like something. Instead, I’ve just wrecked my BACK. Got these deep, cystic zits all overpainful, red, won’t go away. Can’t even look in the mirror without feeling sick. I thought I’d be proud of the gains, but now I just keep my hoodie up and avoid people. No one tells you how bad it can get. Honestly, I don’t even know why I bothered. Now its all scars, acne is destroying my passion for lifting, i hope i will be killed soon

>>76527365
I see you start a new cycle every thread
And get (terminal) acne every thread too
My condolences
My (terminal) acne is clearing up btw, taking accutane and a zinc gel

Terminal acne is not a joke, folks

>>76526428
I do already mog (I'm 6'4) but just want to look as best as possible

Terminal stage 4 cystic acne burned down my house and killed my dog
I can curl 60s now tho
The constant oozing pus keeps most people away too, so win win

>>76527619
>I can curl 60s now tho
60lb or 60kg?
Two hands or one handed?
I'm guessing 60lb with two hands

>option 1
take anavar every day for 8 weeks on and 8 weeks off and cycle like that with a test base
>option 2
Take anavar only on 4 workout days a week and do that year round on cruise. Provided no organ problems

Which is better and makes more sense? I mean in terms of maximizing the anavar

>>76527747
Both options have the trt base

>>76527747
Both of them are gonna cause you killer acne à la sam sulek

>>76526732
just thinking aloud, but wermyns take lower doses than that, and still limit their var cycle duration

>>76527625
Dyel

>>76528230
>à la sam
That's called salami acne

Yo is anyone from a decade ago still here

>>76529310
They're all dead

>>76529310
They probably caught terminal acne and stopped lifting, most have already killed themself, terminal acne is the worst

>>76527747
I dunno how guys are so fucking scared of running orals for longer than 2 months. I ran 50 to 100mg var for almost a year. Stopped it and all of my biomarkers were green and good to go after 2 weeks off.

>>76527183
Cool. A glance. Definitely worth it.
If you're doing it or external validation you're very sad. If your doing if you want to be a freak, you're still sad.
At least I admit it.

>>76529504
I did it because I made my gains completely dried up after 5 years of natty lifting. Other anon is right, I get compliments almost every single time I'm out, girls cat call you especially if you're in a city; and you never get fucked with. I haven't been been in a fight in years.

Anyways, begone natty crab faggot.

>>76529489
I’m not really scared your liver can recover from a lot of shit. My thing is just that I don’t have unlimited anavar and I want to get the most gains from my pills. I only have 120 25 mgs and won’t be able to get more for 6 months or so. Just wondering if dosing every day or only as more of a pre workout is gonna get the max gains from the pills I have

>>76529526
And you wanted the gains because?
The external validation...
I'm not natty. I'm not even saying don't do roids. I'm just pro self examination. And unfortunately a lot of my fellow meatheads are deeply insecure sub mental midgets
How's that for you, faggot?

I feel like shit. I was going for 465 on bench and panicked while the bar was only a few inches down and threw the weight back up as fast as I could. I mentally couldn't go down any further knowing that much weight was above me. 465 was my max a few years ago before I stopped lifting and I did it with no safety guards. Now I'm doing it with safety guards and a slingshot and I mentally can't go down past a few inches, like my body stops me and tells me to freak out.

>>76529575
Actually I was in the SWCC prep program before they went crazy with drug testing. Loads of guys in prep were roiding then pcting pre selection, I wasn't interested in being left behind performance wise. Dad died, had to take care of my Mom. I thank God I didn't sign my contract, all of the special forces units now are bogged bureaucratic messes with no deployments.

Anyways, I do like how I'm treated and I'm not giving it up. Suck a dick, faggot. You type a natty crab.

>>76529569
Fair, Var prices are gonna skyrocket soon too. I would blast it for a short period of time instead of splitting between your workout days. Consider getting superdrol if you want more bang for your buck, it has similar dry look with more size.

I'm considering doing a 17-week steroid cycle. Its an unconventional amount of time but I have my reasons. Thoughts?

>>76512155 (OP)
Should I use something different for a wellness look over the typical cycles that men use? This isn't a troll post, I'm being serious.

how much research do you guys do on tadalafil

>>76529415
>terminal acne
This is a myth. I beat freakin' "incurable" acne inversa with cryotherapy, dermatologists are just str8 skill issues.

>>76529962
I did 4.3 researches , dipshit

>>76529489
var and anadrol literally have clinical trials with both healthy and unhealthy people taking relatively high doses for more than a year. liver toxicity isn't even mentioned in all of these studies. its heavily overblown and highly individual.

>>76527747
option 1 is likely better but you dont need to stop at 8 weeks. you can just keep taking it until you have actual issues.

>>76530092
It does crush SHBG but there obviously can be positives to that

>>76526668
??????????????????

>>76529962
what a profoundly retarded question.

anyways if you're asking for info on it, its cool. helps you get hard, improves bloodflow, gives good pumps, and can be taken daily long term. take a lower dose if you do that though. 5-10mg. some people even report clearer thinking and other psyche benefits.

not something i would take for no reason though. if you have ED for one reason or another its considerably better than Viagra since you can just take it daily and be good to fuck all the time. If you don't have actual ED i dont see the point in taking.

>>76526400
you don't just pay more, you pay like double. international blows domestic out of the water in terms of pricing if you find the right source. as long as you are planning ahead it makes no difference anyways. i dont mind waiting 3-4 weeks.

how common is anxiety and other mental sides on EQ? what about Primo? I want to start adding one to my blasts and maybe even cruises for both the obvious benefits and the AI properties since I aromatize pretty easily.

I've heard EQ and Primo can cause intense anxiety and bullfuckery like that. Is that only due to retards crashing E2?

>>76530314
the chances of you getting those side effects are anywhere between 0 and 100%
Let us know how it goes.

>>76529631
Do it faggot

>>76523937
I am an ex 400+ 50%+BF /btard reformed to 206lb 22% /fitizen. I am not on gear yet. I am studying and preparing for 15% bf.

The HARDESR thing I did was break thr 400lb mark. I don't know where I started but when I got tired of my shit and started working out, I felt like hell on wheels until I was sub 400. I started measuring at 429 and i felt like I wanted to give up.

I did everything I could, honestly, and really felt like I was designed for that weight but my daughter kept pushing me and one day, I saw I was 10lbs down. I lost my mind. I KEPT AT IT, and here I am.

So yes, but you can repair it

Will 2.5mg var daily year round shut me down? I just want a very small advantage over being completely natty without all the hassle of blood work and injection and side effect management

Doing a pussy 350mg test cycle. Will I have little to no water weight if I manage e2 via an AI? How to prevent acne?

>>76531155
yeah bro a miniscule amount of androgen well below natural production will shut you down. there is no literature you can reference on this before asking either. and it's a great idea to fuck with your shbg, liver, and lipids for all the benefit you'll get from 2.5 mg var ed indefinitely

>>76531298
What would you recommend as the safest most hassle free way to fraud a tiny bit? Just to offset fluctuations that come with being a natty with low body fat. Is low dose clomid better?

>>76530283
I'm just asking for the dose that fitizens research with

I use 5mg per day

>>76531357
you could do like 60 day cycles of 10mg ac262, and if you want to use clomid, you'd want enclomiphene instead because clomid has an estrogen boosting interaction

https://www.reddit.com/r/SARMs/comments/1488yp4/ac262_detailed_analysis/

this redditor had his test suppressed by 50ng/dl after an 8 week cycle

or you could use tadalafil, seems like most people take it year round

>>76531389
Thanks anon. I think I will stick to tried and tested very low dose enclomiphene than research chemicals for now.

>>76531357
I have thought like you and you’ll find that the body is very fucking stubborn about not letting you fraud just a little bit. You are better off either doing a full cycle or just being natty. You can use growth hormone and retatrutide and that helps a lot on getting shredded but as soon as you fuck with the HPG axis there is no free lunch.

>>76531416
I have friends who used enclo and the results were laughably bad.

>>76531289
You cant prevent acne, it’s God’s way to let us know he hates us

>>76530045
It’s actually illegal in my country, it’s pills or nothing

>>76529310
Fatlifts brewed good shit for dirt cheap

Been thinking of starting TRT, What's the big deterrent for using Clomid rather than pure test? Especially since Clomid won't crash my natural levels.

Has anyone here had much experience with it outside of PCT use?

>>76532006
Test levels are 330 as of last month btw if that matters

Decent diet + lifting 4x a week for a few years.

>>76532031
clomid does gay shit like crashes igf-1 and something to do with shbg. So that maybe your test level is high on paper but you don't feel high test or put on muscle like you are high test.

Better route if you don't want to shut off balls is to just use HCG. My plan is also to get on TRT with HCG, do weekly inspections of my nuts size vs a ping pong ball (srs) and pin hcg for a couple weeks whenever I notice shrinkage.

If you are young and fat you can always naturally raise test by losing weight and shit but that doesn't like an option for you

>>76532031
>>76532082
I'm an old cunt (31) and in pretty good shape. Just low test levels and have felt the effects for a while. Might fuck off the Clomid idea and just start with some test and see how I feel for a few months.

>>76529526
dude what is your life that you're aware you've not been in a fight since roiding? just crazy to me

Hate the way chink suppliers do not even bother making a website and want you to join a fucking discord or telegram lol I’m not gonna do it

>>76529575
>The external validation
What's wrong with that? People do much worse shit for exactly that

>>76529962
>tadalafil
Amazing stuff
There's not much to discuss though
Some people use it for "pump" during workouts
I tried it and didn't feel anything
But your penis becomes hyperactive, even just washing in the shower can make you hard in several seconds
It doesn't make you "horny". You can think about a pig eating slop and still have a hard dick just because you tugged on it a minute before
>>76530283
>If you don't have actual ED i dont see the point in taking.
Just for funny experience. Even if you're perfectly healthy you can still take it for prolonged sex sessions

>>76530314
>how common is anxiety and other mental sides on EQ?
I don't know
I felt fine on 1mg/w
But then again I'm apparently "special", because I didn't feel any "positive" mental sides either

>>76532140
Do CDL level deliveries.to major cities. The difference of treatment you get from 150 to 225 is hilarious. Everybody in trucking is obese or a methhead skinny, i got so much free food from local businesses because I’m jacked.

>>76532254
>1mg/w
I mean 1g/w so 1000mg/w

Does ANYONE know if TRT nation will accept a regular estradiol test as opposed to a (sensitive) estradiol test? I only have access to the regular one

If I were to do a test only cycle, what dosage would you recommend? I was thinking 300 for my first go round.

>>76530799
hell yeah! amazing job, my dude

>>76531376
5mg ed is the usual. 20 for boners. i tried 60, and didnt notice much difference. also tried 250 sil after letting tad clear, and it made my jaw hurt. 100 sil 20 tad was fine for me for boner maxxing

>>76532258
ooooh... damn. sorry you gotta deal with shit people! may you be blessed with clean shitters, available parking, and no fucking chinese/inidian drivers that don't realize they're fucking towing something and turn ten fucking feet in front of you and take your fucking front end off then act like it's your fucking fault

>>76532364
500mg/week is the usual baby's first blast. 750 is also acceptable

Most of the posters here are ancient boomers who think 500 test is the bare minimum and they still use archaic shit like t3 and clenbuteral to cut when we have vastly superior GLPs.

How long after starting gear do women start throwing themselves at me?

>>76532552
whose gonna tell him

>>76532528
>shitting on t3 and clen
Based
>thinking test is good at all
Its like the most basic bitch compound and you faggots think youll turn into fitness influencer on 250 test and some reta lmao

>>76532364
250 to 300 you can even go bellow, 500 is too much thats what gave me terminal acne

>>76532600
Would you even cycle on 200-250? Seems pretty close to a trt dose

>>76532605
Dont listen to acne faggot spammer, most trt is around 250. 500 is for dipping your toes in, then you start adding other compounds.

>>76532605
you can always add more, but you cant remove it after 3 month when the acne kicked in and you took way much then you should and you are crippled for life because your body was too sensitive for it.
taking 500mg was my biggest mistake, dont listen to people on 4chan, they dont care about you and they never saw you, never saw your blood chart, have no idea about your diet or any bad habit that you have. but you do you, its only your skin after all, misery love company

>>76532605
you can always add more, but you cant remove it after 3 month when the gains kicked in and you took just enough then you should and you are swole for life because your body was enjoying it
taking 500mg was the best thing of my life, listen to people on 4chan, they care about you even though they never saw you and your blood chart, have no idea about your diet or any bad habit that you have. but you do you, its only your muscle after all, you will be swole want it or not

>>76532610
>acne faggot spammer
It's plural though
I know it because I'm one of them
I prefer the terminal velocity acne term

quick question from an outsider
for a male who is in a healthy range of test, is there anything to be gained from having higher estrogen/fine tuning your ratio?
not necessarily just gainz, I'm just trying to hormonemaxx here

>>76533128
saying incel zoomer shit like
>hormonemaxx
Well that's one to tell us you never did the slightest bit of research on your own

>>76532552
When you actually get big

>>76533128
No don’t fuck with shit when you don’t need to, homeostasis is real

>>76532605
250 is cruise for most of us I would say, at that level all of my bio markers improve to absolutely optimal

just came back from my MAiDS appoitement. My derm had to refer me because of my terminal acne.
Not the kind you grow out of, the kind that disfigures, isolates, hurts every day. The doctor at the maids facility listened, nodded, then coldly said, “It doesn’t qualify.”
Not fatal enough,apparently.Just life.Still here. Still hurting. so i will continue posting every fucking single day until i finally get killed, acne screwed my entire life and now im just waiting for my dead. i still want to take test-e tho

>>76533292
thanks
>>76533140
it's a joke, and yes, I don't know shit

When is terminal acne spammer going to stop?

>>76533524
>I was only pretending to talk like a memebrain 4chan incel

>>76533176
This is false
You have to be lean first and foremost
You should have that V taper to the body, it's the main thing that makes you stand out
Even if you're not that big
Dudes who can bench press a lot but have a fat belly don't look attractive even though they're big

>>76533745
>Dudes who can bench press a lot but have a fat belly don't look attractive even though they're big
I'm not attracted to men so I wouldnt know

>>76533128
I don't even understand your post
What do you even want?
Higher T levels give you gainz(tm), some mind clarity, more energy, the feeling of wellbeing and whatnot
But if you're fine as is, you absolutely don't want to fuck up your natural levels
Why do you think trannies kill themselves? Not because of "le societal stigma", it's fucking because fucked up sex hormones make you want to kill yourself
Do you want to kill yourself?

>>76533748
You watch tranny porn, retard, you're 100% faggot, why are you even replying

>get bloodwork done
>can't get test low enough with 14 hour fast and crappy sleep
>still pulled 689 total and 18.2 free
>clinic wouldn't gib trt, got offered some enclomiphene shit
Where do people find these clinics that just fork over the test for first responders? I'm an LEO so I can't just buy the good stuff illegally in good conscience

>>76533872
enclomifene is fine for you as a first line honestly

>>76533128
don't do it my dude. nothing to be gained. only lost. roidin's for gettin big only, and nothing more. trt's for when your body revolts against you, and you crave normalcy. dont go takin shit when you're healthy, and that applies to everything

>>76533872
dig in to hormones for me dot coom. on there they have some faq or something, and one of the questions is something like is this legit. in there they list something about pharma licenses. in there they list contact info for doctors. maybe try hitting up one of those docs, and ask about referrals or how to find someone sympathetic to your goal that's willing to write youna scrip

>>76533872
literally just go on sarms and suppress yourself so you can get a low enough number

duh?

>>76531904
What Jew'd up niggerfag country do you live in?

>>76534116
this would work really well but he probably should just try getting drunk the night before first

>>76532575
>you faggots think youll turn into fitness influencer on 250 test and some reta lmao
ok what stack would make a skinny fat guy into a genuine fitness influencer that people would care about

>>76534191
meh alghoul is poison, sarms give gains

>>76534202
here go with the "what stack to look like this", what stack to look like that" retards.
All steroids do is make you grow muscle faster, you'll look exactly like you do know but with bigger muscle. Except you'll probably be fatter too because you ate too much.

I would just like to give the cardarine haters an update, I was 294.6lbs this morning down 3 pounds from my last update

gg ez, this shit is based, highly recommend it, also t3 is probably doing something for sure, but I was legit high the first day I took it

also I know I'm fat as fuck but are 18 inch pytons big, I've squeezed the tape measure as hard as possible and displaced the fat and I get 17, my arms and my shoulders are my strong point I'd say, legs also good but all my fat is stomach really

>>76534202
test mast eq tren hgh slin dbol

>>76534230
Oh cardarine is what people call GW510516, if I knew that I would have been following your case earlier anon
Happy to hear! What are the worst sides you've gotten?

>>76534255
*GW501516, oops, mistyped
I talked about it a bunch along with AMPK agonists here a while ago and was surprised more people weren't taking it

Also I fucking hate the Healthline jews they say "there have been no long-term human studies so umm this may not really do what we think it does, ignore the fact that PPARd activity has been shown to demonstrate those effects in humans with other drugs"

>>76534255
none, the first few days colors were appearing more sharp like I was tripping on psychedelics or something but I've felt the same except with some stimmy feelings here or there, very mild

it's incredible, I'll take it for as long as I'm able to easily cut weight with it, until I get to 200 ideally, we'll see what I look like

>>76534268
I guess stim feeling isn't totally accurate, it's more like a general euphoria just creeping below the surface, no trouble sleeping, but it never really gets to full blown euphoria in a dopaminergic way, maybe more serotonergic

>>76534274
but you are more motivated to do more sets with less rest and stuff like that so that's the stim portion of it but it's not like tweaking at all

>>76534268
Cheers anon, you may also want to look into MBX-8025; same mechanism of action (PPARd agonist), no reported cancer effects, seems to have more human studies and maybe is more potent as well

>>76534279
interesting, I have like 6 bottles of this stuff to go through and it is very cheap for what my benefits are, maybe when I progress to a more hardcore cycle I'll look into it

>>76534282
Oh cool, it turns out MBX-8025 was approved in the US last year as Seladelpar for primary biliary cholangitis, so you might even be able to get it prescribed off-label

>>76534322
buddy are you a pharma plant?

The list price for Livdelzi (seladelpar) is $12,606 for a 30-day supply.
Another source lists the price as $12,429.30 for the same quantity.
The medication is a prescription treatment for adults with primary biliary cholangitis (PBC) who have an inadequate response to or cannot tolerate ursodeoxycholic acid (UDCA).
It is available as 10 mg oral capsules taken once daily.

my cardarine is 50 bucks for 30 20mg doses
lol lol lol

>>76534352
Fair enough, I'm not a pharma plant just an anon who likes to read papers
I thought it might be interesting because it actually got human approval, but if GW501516 works fine for you then enjoy it :)

>>76533745
Honestly kind of a cope

If we go by actually a lot as in like 400lbs even if you're kind of fat you'll still be huge and mogging pretty hard

V taper isn't that hard to get with clothes on and that hides a lot of it

Basically if you're doing tren and getting massive even if a lot of it is fat people will notice

>>76534322
>>76534352
I just did an A.I. RNP search on MBX-8025 and...
>Oleic acid (OA), a monounsaturated fatty acid found in olive oil, has been shown to boost PPARδ in HepG2 cells by activating the G protein-coupled receptor 40-phospholipase C- (GPR40-PLC-) calcium pathway, thereby regulating lipid metabolism and insulin sensitivity. Natural phytochemicals, including terpenoids like 1,8-cineole, gingerol, cinnamaldehyde, carvacrol, zerumbone, oridonin, tanshinone IIA, pedunculoside, and lycopene, as well as β-carotene, have demonstrated dual PPARs activator activity in research studies.
Maybe there are some cheaper pharma plants here, lol?

>>76534355
I'm honestly very comfortable with the capitalist chemists I do business with

They aren't asking me any questions and they just ship the shit I want

When I do my rad140 cycle and see where I land then I think I'll seek out pharma, as of this point it isn't neccesary

>>76534373
It's well known that fatty acids have PPAR action (e.g. also omega-3), but they're generally not considered potent enough to be used like drugs, thanks for the second sentence though
>>76534375
I don't think you should seek it out from pharma (order it from your usual sources really) but just in terms of safety profile it means something

>>76534230
Based fat retard

>>76533887
>first line
As in, move on to other stuff later? I'm seeing good things about enclo, but my script is gonna run me $249/mo and I've honestly seen actual test for less
>>76533924
cheers

>>76534405
honestly I don't think I give myself enough credit, nobody really squeezes the tape measure as hard as they possibly can when they measure arms

I honestly think they'll stay basically the same size when I get to 20% bodyfat, I know I'll be hated for saying that but it is what it is and shit, maybe I'm just an arm mogger

I curl 30s for like 6 reps, pretty legit, and I don't cheat my form at all, hammer curls

>>76534435
standing hammer curls

>>76534432
bruh are you tarded, swisschems sells 60 12.5mgs for like 70-80 bucks

I overpaid for tadalafil last year and I understand your struggle

>>76534435
>I curl 30s for like 6 reps, pretty legit, and I don't cheat my form at all, hammer curls

lol this has to be trolling. I am natty and weigh 100 pounds less than you and do more weight and volume on curls

>>76534462
I started doing curls like 2-3 months ago, so maybe, I'm not trolling though, I do a ton of reps on the 10s 15s 20s and 25s and then I do some work sets of 6 on 30s or 35s until I'm really cooked, like 3-5 sets

my form is very strict and I don't move my body at all, I just lift my arms from resting position at my side up to my chest

>>76531289
>>76531890


Cystic acne killed my cousin

To treat gyno, wouldn't it be better to nuke your estrogen completely with an AI rather than raloxifene? I've heard raloxifene is the best for treating already developed gyno, can someone explain why?

>>76534830
>nuke your estrogen completely with an AI
brilliant fucking plan.
People like you are why steroids will never be legal. Thanks a lot retard

>>76534846
>why steroids will never be legal.
Yeah bro the government is so concerned about people being irresponsible with roids that's why every retard can get them on the clear web.

>>76534830
>nuke your estrogen completely with an AI
The bottom quartile of the reference for estrogens is where the HNNNNG zone is. You really want to stay just above that and keep the A.I. doses low.

Remember the ponzi schemer in West Virginia who got locked up for killing her husband? Pretty sure he really died of an A.I. overdose mislabeled as SERMs.

>>76535000
I see, so by itself in safe doses it's not enough for treating gyno. I read an old reddit post that said he took an AI and raloxifene, is there reason to think this is more effective than just raloxifene?

Ill just repost the question here as well:

how do bodybuilders do it that their skin is not stretched to hell after the cut from the permabulk version of them. Id reckon, they would be full of saggy skin, yet they dont look like that on the stage

>>76535297
they gatekeep certain drugs to prvent acne so they have less competition, its not for no reason mike israetel is acne free even tho he consume a whole pharmacy daily, same thing for sam sulek, niff nippard and the hussein brocoli muslim head

hi /fraud/,
could test fix my depression?
or just make it worst
since i went off cycle 1.5 year ago, i always feel depressed...
i was thinking of restarting with test only (around 300mg) for the next weeks
it wont make my suicidal thought stronger right?
thanks for any input thank you

>>76535717
Maybe if it’s caused by some big lack of test

>>76535717
best case scenario you still kys

>>76535717
I'm really sorry you're feeling this way, but I need to tell you that this isn't something to go through alone. If you're struggling with depression and suicidal thoughts, it’s really important to reach out to a mental health professional who can guide you through this in a safe and supportive way.

When it comes to testosterone, it’s a bit complicated. Testosterone can have different effects on mood. For some people, it might initially improve mood, energy, and confidence, while others could experience worsened emotional states, including irritability or anxiety. Since you've been off cycle for 1.5 years and are still feeling depressed, it's possible that there are other underlying factors affecting your mental health beyond just the absence of testosterone.

Low testosterone levels after cycling can sometimes lead to symptoms like fatigue, mood swings, and depression. If you’re considering restarting, you should definitely talk to a doctor or endocrinologist first. They can help assess if your testosterone levels are low and guide you on how to safely manage it.

Regarding your concerns about worsening suicidal thoughts, introducing testosterone might not necessarily make them worse, but it’s hard to predict how you’ll react without professional supervision. Any major changes to your hormone levels, especially when you're already struggling with depression, should ideally be monitored closely.

Have you had a chance to talk to anyone about how you're feeling?

>>76534542

I'm really sorry to hear that. That must be incredibly difficult to process. Cystic acne can be such a painful and challenging condition, and when things escalate, it's heartbreaking. How are you feeling about it all? If you want to talk more or share your cousin's story, I'm here for that too.

>>76535905
God I fucking hate AI. You can just feel how it was trained on reddits most updooted comments. Makes me sick

Pin the test or kill yourself or go to therapy depressed faggot makes no difference to me

I've been browsing reddit and the web in general about muh sarms are harsh on your stomach lining etc

since I have a hard time swallowing pills that are big I just take all 6 of my daily capsules and put them in water and drink it, I've never felt like my stomach was being disintegrated

am I just built different, what's up with this pussy shit?

>>76535908
Haha, I get where you’re coming from! It sounds like you’re doing just fine with your SARMs routine, but there are some factors to consider.

When people talk about SARMs being harsh on the stomach lining, it usually stems from a few things:

Capsule ingredients: Some capsules or fillers (like magnesium stearate, cellulose, etc.) can be tough on the stomach, especially if taken on an empty stomach. They might irritate or cause discomfort in sensitive individuals, but that's more about the additives than the SARMs themselves.

Absorption rates: SARMs are typically designed to be absorbed slowly when in capsule form. If you’re dissolving them in water, you might be increasing the absorption rate, which could potentially cause more immediate side effects like nausea, upset stomach, or discomfort for some. But if you’re not feeling that, you’re probably okay.

Your tolerance: Some people just have stomachs that are more resilient to certain substances, while others might be more sensitive. So, if you’re not feeling any irritation, you might just be lucky with your digestive system’s ability to handle it.

It’s also possible that you're getting a steady, controlled release by dissolving them in water, whereas the capsule might have a different impact if you’re not used to swallowing pills. Either way, it’s a personal thing—if you’re not feeling discomfort, that’s a good sign.

As for the "pussy shit" part—nah, it’s just that some folks are more prone to digestive irritation, and it's not a universal experience. If you’re handling it fine, then you're just proving that everybody’s stomach is different.

Do you feel anything else, like any other side effects?

>>76536126
so it's guaranteed that I'm built different, thanks

>>76535717
testosterone is not an anti-depressant

>>76534895
And yet people get busted all the time, so what's your point.
And I'd like to be able to discuss it with my doctor and not have to worry about illegal drug use being on my medical records in case I change jobs because of some do work that requires extensive background investigations including medical records.
Of course now a buch of 4chan losers who work at starbucks will tell me that doesnt happen even though I've had to sign release forms during the application process giving my consent for them investigate my medical records

>>76535297
your skin is elastic to an extent. bulking then cutting isnt gonna do much, and it'll snap back quick. if you're fat for a long time, it'll take longer to go back to normal. but there is a limit, and your skin can only shrink up so much before you'll need surgery to remove excess

>>76536266
this. so much... will people ever realize roids arent fuckin magic?

Thoughts on l-carnitine?

>>76536266
>>76536361
if you've never had low test you wouldn't know the difference

>>76536372
absolute meme shit

>>76534830
Ralox works on the gyno itself, but only does modest work towards regulating e2. Don't take an ai unless your e2 is high or you're gonna have a bad time.

>>76536487
Even if your E2 is above reference I would think raloxifene is a godsend to remove the chance of gyno. Otherwise your only real concern is blood pressure climbing right? If you are on ralox and your blood pressure is good you should just let the E2 do whatever it wants dont you think?

>>76536508
If I had gyno I wanted to get rid of, I would cruise at a dose that doesn't need AI and use Ralox.
If I was worried about getting gyno, I would try to control my E2 with primo, mast, or AI, instead of guessing with Ralox.

>>76536372
That, tbol and eq gives me infinite cardio when dosed moderately
It's a good addon to hgh and the effects on androgen receptors are pretty beneficial particularly for frauds
So it, tadalafil and hgh are my year rounds while cruising
Definitely helps maintain that single digit bf% without feeling like you barely are surviving
Then there's lowering insulin resistance, neurological benefits and better nutrient partitioning
In many ways it's like hgh, bit of a slow onset then you realize after a bit of time that your abs are more defined, mood is better, performance has improved etc without any real extra effort
My only issue with it is the injections, it usually comes in 600mg/ml and doses range around 1-2g split usually AM and PM
1g a day isn't bad for me but 2g sucked, I was injecting 2x a day IM and the solution is apparently on the acidic side so it will burn more and have more pip than say the typical test E in mct oil
I was basically sore and/or limping all the time at 2g a day
I was doing VG, DG and delts in rotation but it still was rough
1g a day though seems to be the sweet spot, still doing IM but half the volume makes a world of difference
I would only do 2g on a blast again if at all

>>76536372
That, tbol and eq gives me infinite terminal acne EVEN when dosed moderately
It's a the worst addon to hgh and the effects on androgen receptors are NOT beneficial particularly for natties.
So it, tadalafil and hgh arent my year rounds while cruising anymore
Definitely wont helps maintain that triple digit bf% without feeling like you barely are exploding
Then there's increasing insulin resistance, neurological downfall and worst r nutrient partitioning
In not somany ways it's not like hgh, bit of a fast offset then you realize after a bit of time that your abs are less defined, mood is shitty, performance refuse improved etc without any real extra effort
My only issue with it is the injections, it usually comes in 600mg/ml and doses range around 1-2g split usually AM and PM, turning to cystic acne by the evening.
1g a day isn't good for me but 2g is barely enough, I was injecting 4x a day IM and the solution is apparently on the based side so it will burn more and have more pip than say the typical test E in mct oil
I was sore and limping all the time at 3g a day
I wasnt doing VG, DG and delts in rotation but it still was rough
2.5g a day though seems to be the sweet spot, still doing IM but half the volume makes a world of difference
I would only do 2.5g on a blast again if at all

>>76536376
you and 99% of the people here who think they are "low T" actually are not.
You're just looking for something to blame your shitty life problems on instead of the loser in the mirror

>>76536913
Oh so 217ng/dl isn't low t

I've never been depressed, but clearly my t was low

Anything you can do to prevent or lessen acne before you hop on your first cycle

>>76537092
Clean your penis and wash you room

>>76537092
No you will get terminal cystic acne guaranteed
No roidhead will admit it because they want you to suffer like they do
It's a sick sick community

>>76534462
hey bud check this out, turns out I'm a supreme genius actually buddy

https://youtube.com/shorts/_w7nEkJvEMM?si=eT4-3pnMNMSbB9rf

>>76536574
There's no way I'm injecting a fucking dietary supplement
I can tolerate injecting gear because it actually does shit, but a supplement that may or may not work? Hell nah
L-carnitine powder is not that expensive, I will be eating it instead

>>76537092
Accutane
A lot of it if you had acne even without gear

>>76537092
sadly just thinking about taking steroid increase the odds and risk of developping terminal cystic acne over back and chest, dont worry for your face its gonna get full and water and you will be bloated. also it might turn you gay (if you straight) or trans (if you gay). so you see, usualy straight men take gear and become gay during first cycle, and they become a tranny after the 2nd cycle. basically taking steroid is practicing becoming trrans, and yes their entire sex life is in their ass.

>>76537545
Came here to post this

Today I sniffed a single pill of tbol
Yep, I got terminal velocity acne just from that

>yearly bloodwork came back good

I like to think the angels of Rich Piana and Zyzz are watching over me and protecting my organs

>>76537476
Ancient garbage. Topical retinoids are good prophylaxis in combination with other more modern acne meds like azelaic acid, but photodynamic therapy is by far the best next-level schizo-tier way to wipe it out.

>Spend a long time learning about steroids and researching.
>Learn about all of them and weigh the pros and cons.
>decide that primo + test would be the best cycle for me after much consideration
>look into sourcing primo
>not available fucking anywhere

well played satan