>>76513925 (OP)
-It's not cutting if you don't lift
-Cutting vs recomp is mostly about timing. If you want to look lean now you have to cut. If you want the most muscle in a year, recomp and maybe cut later.
>>76513925 (OP)
If naturals can only gain like 10lbs of muscle a year or something like that, that means a real recomp will only lose 10 lbs of fat in a year. Cutting is key. Yes, you can build muscle and lose fat at the same time if you're starting from a higher bf%.
>>76513965 >If naturals can only gain like 10lbs of muscle a year or something like that
That's a false premise. I don't know how much I gained the first year but it was a lot more than 10lb.
>>76513925 (OP) >21.7% bf
try 35% nigga, idk how people are this delusional about bodyfat like nigga you have a belly hanging several inches over your waistband
>>76513925 (OP)
Depends on your self image and how intelligent you are
If you're dumb and vain, you'll stop eating and lose muscle and rebound with more fat
If you're smart you'll recomp to constantly gain muscle and even out so you don't get flabby especially if you're bigger.
OP picture is just an obese dude who obv needs to dial in his diet and work out
>>76513965
Why does the the math have to be like that? You're just inserting your autism into the mix for no reason. You can adjust shit as you please. You can eat 180g protein a day and keep it at about 1700 cal and the macros can fluctuate such as higher lower carbs for physical activity and grams of fat per day to have your body burn more fat than consumed. That's why constant adjustments are necessary depending how your body is reacting to training and current diet.
>>76513925 (OP)
I really don't understand how someone can have that little muscle mass. Like, how can he have gone through 27 years of life and never picked up even a little muscle?? Like, wtf?
>>76513925 (OP)
Muscle building has nothing to do with fat storage. Only carbs and fats store as fat, protein cannot. Only protein builds muscle. So bulking is a meme to make you get fat by overconsuming carbs and fats. You can gain muscle and lose fat simultaneously by eating high protein, low carb and fat. It just sucks because you have less really available energy. But you want to burn your stored fat. You likely won't get great performance and will think your muscles are getting worse, but trust me that's not how the body works. CICO is bullshit because it doesn't consider what the different macros do, protein shouldn't even be counted as a calorie if you're not in a state of ketosis, because it isn't used as burnable energy and can never be stored as energy.
>>76514803
Real. I recently started eating 3g of protein per kg of body weight and very little fat and carbohydrate. The results have been great. I’m losing fat quickly, my workouts aren’t suffering, and I don’t feel cold/tired/hungry all the time like I have during previous attempts to get lean.
>>76515319
Lean out first, prioritizing diet and getting your steps in. 10 to 15 pounds can be dropped in 10 to 15 weeks if you dial in and build habits.
Ways to get stuck in that loop is trying to lose weight while lifting heavy and changing your priorities every 3 weeks.
>>76515391
Honestly pretty lucky genes that it went almost all to his gut and not his face and tits. For me my face would start to get bloated and disgusting well before that
>>76515319
You can't
Once you become skinnyfat, which happens to you as a kid 99% of the time, you will ALWAYS remain some variation of skinnyfat unless you do some shit like water fasting for a month until all the fat is gone or just blasting roids
>>76515750 >blackpillers
That's just the way it is, speaking from personal experience among other things
I cut down to 150 pounds @ 6'4'' and still had the fucking skinnyfat gut
It just never goes away, cut or bulk or starve or whatever
Probably needs surgery if you're really bothered by it, just like gyno
>>76515885 >hurr durr my parents could afford quality food when I was a kid and that means you need to be hanged
Shut up cunt, you will never be le based alpha sigma Patrick Bateman, go and kill yourself
>>76515978
Trying to quit nicotine atm, man
It ain't easy, it really ain't, I have forfeited my daily meals in favor of getting some cigs when I was really low on money, that's the level of addiction I'm dealing with
Why does smoking/vaping/chewing any form of nicotine feel so fucking good, it's better than porn, or sex, or alcohol, or drugs
>>76515435
Either you or him is lying about bf %. Could also be a fat distribution thing, guys who don't store fat in their bellies/tits can look decent while being lardos
>>76515319
Regular resistance training aka just lift. Cut out all processed food, eat at maintenance, lift 3 times a week, get noob gains, make sure you're getting all your vitamins. Once your testosterone increases from the lifting your body will store less belly fat. Once you build a decent amount of lean body mass then you can cut. Also cut out alcohol, it is poison.
