Thread 76517533

>Who is /fat/ for?
For dieting ducks working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.
Join our Fatty Contest: https://www.fattycontest.com/

>What do I do first?
1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/
2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy
3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/
Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.
4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php
5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros), LoseIt (great for both), or Waistline (FOSS).

>Now what?
Count calories, all of them.
Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.
Buy scales, be accurate.
Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.
Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per pound of goal lean body mass.
Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.
Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and lose fat much quicker. Not lifting results in the body eating away muscle AND fat.
Drink more water.
Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html

>DON'T
Eat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.
Eat processed foods.
Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, Starbucks).
Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks.
"Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.

>Other resources:
Loose skin, gynecomastia & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/
hang all redditors

Previous thread: >>76512405

>ordering book on amazon
>need $5 to qualify for free shipping
>mfw I cant think of anything cheap i need but snacks

help

>>76517541
tooth floss, deodorant

>>76517533 (OP)
>wojak not nuns
I'm out

>>76517541
buy a cute mini plush

I literally ate fast food twice today and ate some treats, and still ended up being around 1,800 cal. Plus I walked 11k steps and did arms.

Losing weight is so much easier than bulking, how are you retards main-gaining being fat lmao.

>>76517552
of??

>>76517564
ur favorite animal

>>76517541
treat yourself and get some nice pens

Anyone else track their calories by hand?
I feel like a faggot typing notes on my phone

>>76517579
Just.. use an app

>>76517580
It feels pozzed regardless, ink to paper feels more interactive.

>>76517587
ur either extremely performative or extremely autistic

>>76517579
I use a spreadsheet for tracking, and take physical notes when making more involved meals.
Fuck shartphones.

is this legit or troll?

>>76517608
>Fuck shartphones.
agreed

>>76517549
Ehhh... it's got the title, the links and the proper format. Good enough for me.

why the fuck does every plan online have "snacks", i dont wanna fucking snack fuck you

>>76517636
Well look at the hand in those photos. That's the target audience for those plans and that's why there's constant snacking.

For the last two days I've felt really hungry for some reason. Why now? I've been on this calorie limit for weeks and I was already adjusted to it.

>>76517643
why are they so obsessed with mason jars too

>>76517658
have you been drinking the liquid jew?

>>76517589
its a better aesthetic but i guess were a lil autistic

>>76517658
Creatine on non-workout days made me eat x1.5

>>76517670
No, haven't touched any sodas in months. It started tasting like liquid shit very quickly during weaning off sugary stuff.

>>76517658
Artificial sweeteners do this to me, sucralose in particular. Check to see if anything you're eating has sucralose.

>>76517705
be wary of any "zero sugar" slop that still tastes sweet

Wake-up call 1 month ago was weight restriction in trampoline park. Lost 2 kg for now. Over 90kg is not allowed

>>76517712
>>76517720
Yup, the culprit was probably those "protein quark" things my wife bought me while trying to be helpful. Can't look what was in them anymore but they tasted disgustingly sweet.
Luckily they're gone now and it's back to natural quark.

>>76517735
They just jelly

Your stomach isn't growling, it's purring.

>>76517735
isnt that for kids

Every Monday the number goes up, no matter what and how much I eat on Sunday.

>use app for tracking
>some game-ification
>get a streak going
>suddenly unlock items that can pause my streak so i can cheat

the app just went traitor

>>76517795
stop weighing yourself, calorie deficit is all that matters

>>76517853
It doesn't bother me, it's just funny that the body pre-stresses itself for the return to the wage cage and bloats up on water like clockwork.

>>76517849
That’s why you only use the sienfield method to gameify your streaks.

wow, today for the first time i had an actual full on bulimic impulse.

i binged on a bag of salt and vinegar chips, a full 1000 calories and probably a weeks worth of salt in 20 minutes

immediately i began to feel a little bit off, my stomach isnt liking it, it feels like my blood pressure is up, im sweating a little, i can feel the mucous membrane in my mouth shrivelling and dying from the salt i just consumed and i know its only going to continue to get worse

the second it sunk in what i had just done and what i am feeling, the thought to throw up intentionally to reverse what i have done so i dont have to go through what i know im now going to go through struck me like lightning


in fact, i think i would have gotten up and thrown up as soon as the idea came to me, if it wasnt for the fact that i have problems with my oesophagus/throat already from years of drinking and heart burn, and i cant afford to go around throwing up stomach acid willy nilly making the situation worse than it already is

god, those chips were profoundly unsatisfying too.

>>76517533 (OP)
Fatty Contest
ReodorFelgen
83.6kg

ugh, I had some porridge with bananas and now my stomach hurts.

>>76517795
Weight fluctuations are completely normal, weighing yourself on a weekly basis is retarded unless you weigh yourself daily and take the average.

If you're eating in a calorie deficit, and weighing your food correctly, you WILL lose the weight.

>>76517735
Mine was going to an amusement park w/ a friend and his kid and not being able to join them on the rides

>>76517533 (OP)
Former fat person here. I believe in all of you and I know that you can all do it by virtue of you being here and sharing advice and taking advice. Stay the course and Godspeed.

>>76517541
Search "protein powder samples"

>>76517610
How would that even remotely be legitimate if there aren't any recipes or measurements given?

>>76517579
I've been thinking about doing this because I don't have a smart phone. How effective are you finding it to keep a record of what you eat?

>>76517886
You should see a therapist. You have an eating disorder.

>>76518060
Nta. If you don’t have a smart phone, you need to start learning how to keep a notebook anyway.

>>76517886
Tldr but you should join an over eaters anonymous group.

>>76517849
I literally carry a pen and pocket notebook and track that way because I will not pay for a calculator that also gaslights me and spend most of my time in a building that doesnt allow cellphone or smartwatch access

>>76517636
Healthy snacks are a cornerstone of a successful diet

>>76518202
lol
successfully fattening diet maybe

Down from 279 to 205. In three years
Just start walking a lot (30k steps a day) then running. You literally can outrun a bad diet.
Make sure to strengthen legs as you go.

>spot loss is a myth
>but there's an injection that burns fat under your chin
????

Good morning, frens. Stay strong.

>>76518235
Biochemistry is a pathway to many abilities some consider... unnatural.

>>76517687
>better aesthetic
NIGGA YOU'RE A FAT FUCK
Worry about the aesthetics of calorie counting after you have an AESTHETIC BODY
Just fucking use cronometer jeez get a load of the autists on here

>>76518274
Shut up retard being fat and strong is peak

>try american meal prep recipe
>buy all ingredients
>calories are off by 300 calories
And there goes my plan. Looks like im sticking to meal prep guides in my own language which severly limits my options. For fucks sake. I followed the damn recipe and the fucking guy even had the recipe in grams and such even though it was a american recipe...
Man. Im just fucking sick of eating shit plain. What i mean is that i eat shit like ground beef and spaghetti and that will basically be my meal. Sure i season the ground beef but fuck it gets tiring when you eat it for the 30th time. Sure i rotate my meals but there arent that many options when all i eat are meat+carb. I just dont know how to cook so i thought a meal prep would help instead of cooking up slop every damn day. Nope. Plans ruined life ruined.

I ate like a damn pig yesterday and had to clean up some leftovers today. Probably undid a whole week's worth of progress. It was a really fun time with friends and family though and tomorrow I'm getting back on my meal plan track. WAGMI anons, even if we occasionally stop to smell the roses on the way there.

mmm I'm feeling like today is a pizza day

>>76518392
Can you give details? What happened to cause it to be off by 300 calories? Did you buy the wrong ingredients or was the recipe labeled wrong or what?

>>76518392
Are you retard? Cooking and coming up with your own or modified recipes are easy to come up with... Only complete morons must need the use of complete step by step guide to cook. I mean there are use for them but if you are only eating beef/spaghetti its on you buddy, not the language limitations.

>>76518470
Me yesterday, the local delicacy is crab dip pizza and it haunts my dreams

>>76518503
I bought everything according to the recipe except for the very specific potato which doesnt exist in my country and then supplemented that weight with regional potatoes but that shouldnt be a 300 calorie difference.

>>76518581
I'm sorry to hear that, man. Maybe you could have substituted it for something different that was lighter in calories. Or you can do that next time. By the way, ignore the person who is calling you a retard and moron. You tried your very best, and you are on the right path to improving yourself. Don't let other people get you down.

187cm/76kg, i got fat around the belly and under the ribs area, how do i get rid of it? i plan to cut ALL sugar/carbs and eat only eggs and steaks for a while, OMAD, is that a bad idea? what can i drink besides water? is that chink meme-tier green tea any good? i also plan to do stairs everyday and abs, i miss being 20 and just having visible abs in spite of eating basically any and everything without a worry

>>76518641
Yes, that's a bad idea. It's extremely restrictive, it's extremely disordered, and you won't be counting your calorie intake, which I know you think doesn't matter because it's low carb and the food is satiating, but you got fat because you didn't listen to your hunger cues, so it's better to just plan out your meals and count your calories. Eat less and move more.

>>76518647
actually i think i got this belly fat from the sugar intake, i used to drink soda everyday, sometimes even 2 liters a day, i also had small physical activity, i used to have 2 meals a day, if even that, so i don't understand how i could get fat only on the belly

>>76518657
I don't see how any of that is relevant to the suggestions and critique I gave you from the question you asked, but okay.

>>76518641
>187cm/76kg
just lift man... no reason to lose weight

>>76518657
>so i don't understand how i could get fat only on the belly
by being in a caloric surplus

>>76518657
>I don't understand how i could get fat only on the belly
Two liters of soda is 900 calories just in stuff that you're drinking.

>>76518684
calorie surplus with 2 meals a day drinking 2h of soda and shit like a mexican tuna salad and 2-3 pastries and a drinkable fruit yogurt being the whole meals for a day?
>>76518663
will that alone fix my physique? i doubt it, i think it might be visceral fat at this point
>>76518660
how not? you said i got fat because i didn't listen to my hunger cues, however i didn't have any of these in spite of having a fucked up schedule so i thought the sugar intake from the drinks would be the probable cause of all this

The hunger is ever present. Would a protein shake between meals or in the morning help with satiation?

>>76518703
>will that alone fix my physique?
Yes, you don't need to lose any more weight, you need to burn fat and earn muscle mass. Eat maintenance calories, or even a mild surplus, try to stay around same weight, but going up a lb or so every week is fine, recomp or clean bulk while lifting hard. Look up a basic hypertrophy routine and follow it.

A big mistake a lot of guys make is they just keep cutting but they still look like shit, you're already at a good weight, just focus on building out muscle without gaining a lot of fat.

>>76518715
Not if its the real hunger bro, you're just gonna get more hungry

>>76518703
The point is that you were drinking 900 calories of soda a day, which is abnormal and is not listening to your hunger cues. And your solution was to jump to another abnormal eating habit, which would highly restrict your foods to just two, And that that was not a good idea.

weighed myself and i was 235 like i expected, down 3 pounds from 4 days ago.

i was kinda hoping it'd be 4 pounds but i've consistently been losing 3 for weeks

>>76518715
what do you eat?

>>76517533 (OP)
How accurate is the bodyfat calculator in the OP
I know it only gives an estimate, but most of my fat gets stored in my glutes and legs, I lose belly fat fairly quickly, with the fat in my legs usually being the last to go

>>76518641
Pick up a pair of dumbbells immediately and start recoomping

>>76518803
Not very, like its likely off by at least 5~10% in either direction.

If you want something accurate you need to either get a 7-point caliper skin fold measurement, or a DEXA scan.

>>76518803
What does it matter though, if you're too fat you're too fat
Who cares if you're 25% bf or 30%
>but I'm not that fat
Who cares? Just lose fat until you look good enough for your liking, you're always too fat until you look the way you want to look

Fatty Contest
BetterNateThanLever
218.8 lbs

I ate too much at a party.

>>76518825
i got an interchangable pair of 10kg each and a pair of 1kg each, what do i pick

>>76518857
Just another way of tracking progress and seeing whether or not lean mass recedes

>>76518857
>Why would you want concrete figures to track aspects of your health that are fundamentally quantifiable?
The same reason people lift set amounts of weight and count specific amounts of calories.

Just gotta keep fasting until I'm skinny

>>76518900
No, body is not a concrete figure
You already have concrete figures, your weight is the concrete figure
Try again

>>76518904
Good thing I didn't say that it was. I didn't read past that sentence since you started off with a strawman

>>76518902
ngmi

so..

two /fat/ general threads were made..

at exactly 6:36am pacific time..

on a monday morning.. ?

so, let me get this straight. there were two people, both up bright and early, at the crack of dawn, and these two people decided to start a new thread, at exactly the same time- not the same hour, not the same minute, but THE SAME SECOND. because making a new /fat/ thread first thing in the morning on a monday at the exact same time at 6am is something that two people who really actually do.

perhaps- and this is a stretch- perhaps there is just one idiot making threads and trying to manipulate everyone and maintain control and he thinks that pretending to be two people fighting over thread control is the way forward (fake/controlled opposition). perhaps he wanted to split the threads. or maybe there really are two people, but they aren't normal people, because they are awake at 6am on a monday morning fighting over control of this fucking thread instead of going to work or sleeping like a normal person.

>>76518906
You implied that it was, but thanks for letting me know you're disingenuous and retarded so I dont have to waste time with you

>>76518909
or maybe people have different time zones?

Down 4.7 lbs for the week. It is too much, but I'll do better this week.

>>76518392
>ground beef and spaghetti
my fucking dream. Stupid gout.

>>76518581
It sucks, but companies do this shit all the time. If there is no law and there is desire fatties gonna get their fat. I couldn't think of a better example, but it is common.

>>76518715
depends on how you are wired. If you are one of those with the strong vagus nerve response, that is a no.

>>76518803
buy a decent digital scale. It won't be accurate enough for the haters, but it will allow you to track progress. 1% lower of a number shows you are doing things right.

>>76518913
No, I didn't. Again, didn't read past the first few words..

So boys I came to you last week with my blood pressure reading 152 and I was freaking out. This morning I clocked in at 138. It has steadily been decreasing every day. Turns out that dietary intervention was the right call. I just need to keep losing weight and not eating salty foods and I think my blood pressure will be fine.

I had been eating a shitload of rotisserie chicken and I think thats what drove me up into the 150s. The shit has a ton of salt in it and I never even thought about it. Sucks that I will probably have to watch my salt forever but oh well. Better than stage 2 hypertension and stroking out.

>>76518909
>not the same hour, not the same minute, but THE SAME SECOND
Huh, and this one was technically the second thread, but it got posted to the previous thread first. Oh well, as long as they don't forget the thread title I don't give a shit who makes it.

>>76518922
I used to have like 160/110 BP
Eating less salt helps a ton for sure

>>76518902
Here is the logical endpoint of your destination:
You will lose enough weight to look like pic related and you'll plateau, for a long while. Sooner or later you'll crack and lose motivation, gaining some if not all weight back
Go and lift weights while eating at a deficit

>>76518935
Begone doomnigger, this guy is straight up still fat
you can avoid this physique by training your body regularly and losing fat

>>76517610
Too many calories for a smoothie

>>76518935
>image taken from a cursed physique thread >>75928454
>has nothing to do with fasting
>please stop doing your weight loss method and do ours instead!
no thanks

>>76518888
Buy a couple of adjustable dumbbells with extra weights, with a range of 10kg - 30kg per dumbbell to start. 10kg will do barely anything for your chest, legs, or back, but you can use them for things like curls or skullcrushers

>>76518902
Every success story of every former fatty I personally know is just running while eating healthier

>>76518939
Read the last sentence of my post

>>76518922
I say this because you said you freaked out. You will hit 152 as a reading again, it is normal to have your BP spike in terrible ways especially when you aren't used to having it measured. Don't freak out next time when it does, BP has to be measured using averages.

The salt thing can go away when you get nearer to a healthy goal. I am down an average of 13 for my systolic and 15 for my pulse. I was on blood meds at 139 and now off the meds at 126. I don't worry about salt anymore and concentrate on dieting. Keep with the low salt for now, it sucks worrying you are going to die every day.

Good work on the lower reading, it is a very good sign and you are on the right track. Keep going.

>>76518951
a runner humble bragging while the other success stories remain silent. That's odd.

>>76518954
Fasting is a deficit, it doesn't exclude lifting weights either

i think that the person that pushes fasting and the person who says that 'fasting doesn't work' is the same person.

Just as an experiment, and to test myself if I even could keep it up, I tried to go on a diet.
The diet was simple: 1 meal a day. Doesn't matter what or how much, I could only eat once. No snacks, not even liquids other than water.
I lasted for a month and a couple days. Went from 76.~ to 70 kg

My takeaway is that CICO absolutely is true and the faggots who think otherwise have no brain at all.
ONLY losing weight won't improve your physique, BUT, if the only thing you care about is losing weight, limiting hard your food intake is absolutely the way to go. Working out will mask the progress and more than likely demotivate most weakminded people, so the second best bet is tackling weight loss and body training separately.

>>76518917
yeah i thought about that. i think that both threads came from the tel aviv timezone. it takes years to understand the schizophrenic mind of a mossad agent.

>>76518974
>>76518909
awwwww...friends. Or the same person. Or I am talking to the person who made those threads.

omg, did I make all these posts. I am sorry guys, I have a problem.

>>76518925
yeah, but the threads would be better and resonate with more people if there was a tranny as the OP image for every thread. ftm or mtf, it doesn't matter as long as it's a tranny.

>>76518974
I think the guy who wants to lose weight, and the guy who eats slop are probably the same person too.

I was watching king of the hill and bobby said they called him t rex because he couldn't support his weight with his arms. I felt that :(

>>76518996
How did you know

>>76519003
I've just recently gotten light enough (100kg) to do like 3 or 4 pushups
Before that I couldn't even do 1
Still gonna have to keep doing knee pushups though

>>76518990
yes, coordination between two people could be the answer but you don't know how easy it is to just samefag. it's always been annoying when people do that. the 'fasting is great' and 'fasting doesn't work' argument (which is tiresome) is probably intended to bump the thread. it could be friends identifying one another and that would be very wholesome but i tend to believe that it's malevolent instead.

is this thread so important that it needs 'thread bumpers?' what about all the organic threads on /fit/? aren't those more important?

>>76519022
you need to take your schizo medication
people are just talking

>>76518979
Thanks for your definitive proof that CICO is true. I would never have guessed that eating less could lead to weight loss.

>>76519033
you jest but I have read it all over here

>>76519038
No offense dude, but you should stop taking things you see on 4chan seriously. If you take the opinions of people here as fact, you're going to end up with a severely deranged worldview.

>>76519015
Good job fren
Now keep pushing until you can do pull ups

>>76519063
Goddam I would love some tendies right now, with honey dill sauce

Fattycontest
Crisco
215.4

Things are slowing down and too many factors have changed in the past 2 weeks. Started creatine, some supplement and medication changes, and I had added an extra 250 cal/day as I was getting a lot of brain fog. Im going to remove the extra cals and see where things land next week.

>>76519049

I understand your point, but still, when there are +10 post arguments, you gotta acknowledge the possibility the anon is not shitposting anymore
there's people alive today who actually believe the Earth is flat, everything is possible

>>76519121
You totally ignored the point that I made.

>>76519121
So? Stop taking stupid shit serious

>>76519063
damn I wish I could do a single pullup
I can kind of get a bit of vertical motion going now, but not even close to getting my head over the bar

>>76518470
i have frozen pizzas i've been sitting on for a month. I think i want to get at least into the 220s before i try though because idk if its going to make me overeat

>>76518392
update. Found a shitty site in my local language but out of every site i found its the least sketchiest. But so much gimmick shit like sweets and chocolate and barely any foods. Maybe like 5 meal prep recipes in total. Rest is just gimmick shit

>>76519175
Just learn to cook bro

>>76519192
Thats very unhelpful.

>>76517541
>35 dollar minimum on orders for free shipping
it used to be 25, but really the more egregious offense is that you have to met a minimum to begin with. bezos should pay for my shipping the fucker.

>>76519196
It's the best solution
Alternatively ask AI for recipes and give it your specific non-american ingredients and calorie counts

>>76519205
Im a staunch AI hater. I want to commit AI genocide. Seriously though. Im extremely disappointed in my country. My only options seem to be some fucking fitness store shitty recipes and then a few other super obscure shitty blogs with even shittier recipes. Oh well atleast it beats eating the same fucking basic slop ive been eating for the past 2 months.

>>76519230
You shouldn't hate AI its perfect for stupid people like you who can't even cook

>>76519236
Google's AI literally told people to thicken the cheese sauce on pizza with Elmer's glue.

>>76519136
It's all a matter of time, took me until I was at around 100ish kg to manage to half ass a single one

>>76519239
Damn thats crazy, well I don't use google AI but I imagine someone manipulated it in a way to give such a bad response or even easier, photoshopped it
I use deepseek since its easy and free and can't be manipulated around to make false statements like that unless you explicitly tell it to do so

>>76519230
update. ITS FUCKING SHIT. Wow. Who the fuck makes meal prep for 3 days only? Well apparently this site does. I hate my life. I hate my meal prepping shit fucking life

>>76519253
I can't believe this absolutely ridiculous cope. It wasn't photoshopped and it wasn't manipulated. People literally reproduced it. You're going to have to learn that your opinions aren't always correct and sometimes there are extenuating circumstances that legitimately prove the point that you're trying to make incorrect. You can literally look up the example that I just gave you online. It was directly reproducible and many people did it.

>>76519253
It was the automatic Google AI overview that shows up when you search something. Somebody searched how to get cheese to stick to pizza better, and the AI overview told them to use Elmer's glue. It wasn't manipulated because it's not possible that it would be manipulated Because it was an AI summary based on a simple search query, not a prompt

>>76519261
Nah I'm good, I simply don't care enough to investigate it further
As the saying goes; works on my machine
That's all that matters to me

>>76519274
concession accepted.

>start really trying at the start of the month
>down 4lb
feeling good
taking this and running with it

>>76519275
Thanks for the confidence boost

>>76519277
Based

I've been eating 800 caloreis a day for about two weeks or so and I'm afraid to weigh myself

>>76517743
>those "protein quark" things my wife bought
which brand were they?

>download meal prep book
>its not a fucking meal prep book and it wants you to cook every fucking day

Have been walking at least 10k steps every day but I ended up binging the last two days. Nothing super severe but probably went 1500-2000 calories over my current restriction of 1200/day. Have two slices of pizza to finish off and then I will continue my diet tomorrow. I’ll still walk today even though I was a fat little piggy. I haven’t had a cheat day previous to this one in about 3 weeks

>>76519417
800/day is the sweet spot

>>76519410
Check out StealthHealthLife on youtube, he has some very good recipes that are made in bulk. I recommend his crockpot series. The blacked chicken alfredo is my favorite so far

>>76519426
If I have a busy day at work I can get away with eating under 1000 calories a day, but it’s hard when you have down time and you think about how hungry you are

>>76519410
>>76519175
just eat eggs or hot dogs or tuna cans. easy to calculate.

>>76519435
I'm just pushing my eating disorder on others (although I think 800 /day is fine as long as you have lots of protein and aren't missing out on nutrients you need. I'm a cuck and drink onions at least one meal a day so that I'm getting a little bit of everything)

>>76519410
I mean nowhere on the cover does it say that it would do one or the other

>>76519455
It says "meal prep" on it. I expect meal prep. Well its a good thing books are free on the internet.

>>76519450
What all do you eat for your meals? Do you also take a multivitamin?

>>76519471
I guess meal prep does have a "definiton" so the book is in fact wrong and stupid
>Well its a good thing books are free on the internet.
anything that's digital is :)

that felt incredibly satisfying to see... until I started feeling it 5 minutes later

>>76518935
Isn't a lot of that just loose skin?

This week's progress report

>>76519471
Meal prep is preparing meals. You bought a book about preparing meals and it told you about preparing meals.

>>76519410
Man the guys contradicting you are absolute faggots. I would also have expected the book to be about cooking 1 time for a weeks worth of food. Not "grocery shopping for retards"

>>76519492
>You bought a book
since when is downloading books from annas archive buying?

>>76519487
not really. Thats just extreme skinnyfat which is what happens to fats who starve themselves and don't lift weights

At what point can you stop chalking weight loss to water weight?

>>76519505
>did you guys know I pirated this book??
>Look at me I pirated a book!!
Nobody cares.

>>76519474
onions/protein huel/bran cereal / veggies and fruits depending on the day

Those give me a shit ton of protein and I end up with almost every vitamin and nutrient in a good amount. I drink some electrolyte mix in water some days too if I did some heavy activity just to make sure I'm okay on that front

I'm not saying its the proper way but im sticking with it for now so whatever

>>76519535
I pirated your cookbook

>>76519535
umad?

>>76519535
Lol, cope.

ate a large bowl of raw kale along with an entire tub of cottage cheese , im still hungry as hell, im convinced this claim about protein and fiber being filling is delusional horse shit .

what's the difference though?

>was measuring my chicken with the uncooked weight nutrition

Fuck I have likely been underestimating my calories while still losing weight. I dont know why I thought the chicken label was cooked weight whereas I didnt for steaks.
Are the app trackers for cooked chicken thighs or breasts pretty reliable?

>>76519599
>>76519599
>uncooked weight nutrition for what purpose? who eats raw chicken?

>>76519599
Cronometer explicitly specifies (cooked) so I measure it cooked.

So how do you evenly meal prep something like this? Some containers will have more chicken than the other so how is this accurate?

>>76519612
Like im a dumbass. I was using what was on the package and put that into cronometer over the cooked chicken entries that the app has. But I thought it was cooked nutrion label. At least I've benefited getting more protein than I thought i guess.

>>76519573
macron/microutrients do not affect mental cravings

>>76519632
just dont add the chicken until you have it divided out

>>76519632
You ballpark it. Eventually you're going to eat the entire recipe that you cooked so the calories will even out.

>>76519632
Is that from stealth health? I use them sometimes though not really pasta dishes. I just divide them in packaging the best I can. Even if one package has x more calories than the other, overall you receive the same amount of nutrients and calories once you finish it all. Like if you have a 1 lb steak. If you eat 9 ounces today and 7 ounces tomorrow, the difference doesnt matter much since you still ate the entire steak. Unless you are super anal about your calorie margins.

>>76519527
I went cycling today with the sun out, hot as fuck, and lost 1 pound of water weight in 30 minutes
weigh yourself each day in the morning after pissing and shitting and track the progress that way, weighing yourself throughout the day is pointless

>>76519632
it averages out
or cook the chicken seperate and divide evenly if you're that neurotic and anal

are weight loss pills a scam?

>>76517533 (OP)
Went to lift weights for roughly 1 hour 20 minutes, then walked 7k steps. Should I go for a jog or just rest until tomorrow in case it fucks with the recovery period (Sedentary TDEE 2600/Eaten 1800cal)

>>76519703
unless the pills are
ephedrine
clen
t3
dnp

then yes they're a scam

>>76519658
I have a plan to transition from walking to bicycle once my weight loss starts slowing down.
i don't expect i can keep up this rate of weight loss when i have less fat, and i want to get all this over with as fast as i can.

>>76519703
you dont really need them

>>76519652
>Is that from stealth health?
yeah

>>76519704
walk another 3k steps then rest

>>76519703
I mean, we can take meth and lose a shit ton of weight. Is it still a scam? yes.

Stop looking for cheat codes, losing weight is easier than you think

>>76519741
>Stop looking for cheat codes
I just want something to stuff my face with that had no calories and makes the boredum/hunger go away.

>>76519573
VAGUS NERVE.

you are carb/brain dependent, it is not everyone, probably most. Shit sucks, but it doesn't mean it is fake.

>>76519752
greek yogurt. 0% plain. No zero calories, but you can eat a kilo of this shit and still be in your calorie deficit.

>>76519704
do it for science. You are you. How the fuck would any of us know your recovery time.

>>76519752
https://3auntiesthaimarket.com/products/telephone-brand-agar-agar-powder

Asian gelatin. its more stiff than jello so it feels more like food

Rate todays plan:

>Finish 15hr hour fast
>coffee (130cal)
>Bison burger (648 cal / 47 protein)
>walk 10k steps
>3 chipotle steak tacos (500 cal/45g protein)
>lift
>beef jerkey (270cal, 27g protein)
>jerk off
>sleep
based or cringe be honest

>>76519820
better than last time

>>76519820
>>coffee (130cal)
fuck off

119g protein. You better be below 5'7.

>>76519835
its literally plain coffee with some milk..
and youre right, I should get two bison patties instead

>>76519820
in what world are 3 tacos from a fast food place only 500 calories??

>>76519849
thats the thing, im not putting anything on them, plus I am combining the tacos into one, so thats 2 less tortillas. Its one big steak taco, no toppings or slop sauce. I say three because thats how chipotle sells them

>>76519843
>milk
then you should include protein. so other anons don't think you are being a bitch and using sugar. Fairlife is a decent brand if available in your country.

>>76519849
I swear this entire board can't figure out how to fast food properly. It is bad, not a death sentence. Usually better than actual restaurants.

>>76519874
>maltodextrin
>oats
>onions
>(((natural flavors)))
>dextrose

Holy slop

Losing weight is so much harder when your life sucks in general. In the past it always felt like I was improving myself, which made it easy to keep going. Now every moment is kept wondering why do I deny myself the few pleasurable things in life for something that is not going change the quality of my life in any meaningful way.
I wouldn't even bother, if it wasn't for my disdain towards fat people and the shame that I'm almost 10kg overweight.

>>76519874
better choice, almost passable.

>>76519880
diet fatigue and eventual failure for this anon.

>>76519884
>for something that is not going change the quality of my life in any meaningful way.
being fat is one of the worst things you can do to yourself except for eating poisons and cutting/hitting yourself
>>76519893
you don't need slop to keep going with your diet lmao

>>76519874
this isnt even the right fast food place

>>76519893
>youll get diet fatigue unless you eat all this garbage hehe

kys retard

>>76519908
>calls out fast food in general
>posts bullshit ingredient list
>wait your point is invalid because of my specific example

>>76519915
you first. Just continue with IF or whatever you do to be so very strong and rock hard.

>>76519927
Keep slurping on those goy ingredients at taco bell friend, your gut microbiome will love it

>>76519931
>>>/pol/

>>76519927
well yes..? different fast food places have different caloric intakes even if its the same food type

>>76519927
>>76519935
what a niggerfaggot

>>76519884
Why you sad bro?

>>76519752
Snow cones / slushies flavored with sugar-free syrups.

>>76519935
>>>/lgbt/

for dinner three small sausages, a fried egg, a fuckton of salad, and a portion of air fried fries.

Feel like it was a decent meal but the fact I succumbed to the temptation of french fries is fucking with me.
Tomorrow I'll be stronger.

>>76519968
Don't lie to yourself.

>>76519968
There’s nothing wrong with potatoes, just learn how to cook them in ways other than frying. I like gold potatoes with a good hard roast. Going to try out a recipe tossing them in salt and vinegar later this week.

>>76519719
Their orange chicken thigh recipe is one of my go tos

>lower back randomly decides to explode for no reason
God being over 30 is a curse

>>76519858
So are you going to answer the question

>>76519808
This isn't gelatin. This is just food thickener.

>starting to see an outline of my upper abs in the right light
I AM going to make it.

10 pounds about in my first month. (There is a week that isnt on here)

>>76520048
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXMabwnyxbs

>>76519703
Med-grade weight loss pills work to some degree. Supplemental weight loss pills are mostly a waste of money unless they contain caffeine.

>>76520069
I'm not clicking your stupid YouTube link. It's not gelatin.

Fatty Contest
LeanAndStrong
94.7kg

After going from 120kg to 90kg as FatDumpster, here I am back again.
Here's how I fucked up:
>eating entire bars of chocolate
>eating candy in general, sour worms, haribo bears
>ordering pizza pretty much every week
>making a habit of ordering 4 mcdonalds burgers with large fries and ice cream

I did this shit a lot, but also somedays I'd just fast the entire day and eat 1500 cal of chicken breast in the evening.

My weight kept going up but fluctuating down sometimes, so as a cope I told myself it was fine, I needed a diet break anyway, but here I am. 3 months later I'm 5 kilos heavier.

This month I started running again, thank God, but I know it's not enough. I have to fix my diet. I have to stop eating garbage.

So God help me, after 3 months of fucking up really hard, I'll take back control again. I'm so close, I'm well below 100kg, I can't fucking give up now.

Cutting at a 500 calorie deficit while being very active is so easy, I managed to get my calorie goal to what would otherwise be a slight surplus because I'm lifting two hours 4 days a week, walking at least 10k steps daily and doing cardio three times a week.
It's very sustainable but slow as fuck though, 2-3kgs a month

I want to be a lean chad while eating pizza
Fuck this gay earth, why do I have to eat this horrible diet

>>76520132
Frozen pizza surprisingly isn't that bad from a calorie and satiation aspect.

>>76520132
Be more active and learn to cook.
You won't even want pizza.

>>76520102
You should go back to fatdumpster since you are clearly ngmi

>>76520102
textbook case of ngmi

>>76520132
Learn how to cook a pizza. You can work an occasional pizza into your macros, especially if you limit your portion sizes. I was surprised that I could get away with 500 cal pizza and that there was roughly 15g protein (without toppings)

>>76520139
>>76520153
Thank you for the demoralization

>>76519136
here's the lifehack for pull-ups- keep losing weight. the lighter you get they easier they will become. people who can do a bunch of pull-ups are often very fit but sometimes they are just really light and doing them is easy for them. i couldn't do even one until i dropped down below 190-200lbs.

>>76520174
Man, posts like yours seem like a common theme. Trying to solve disordered eating (junk binges) with other disordered eating (fasting and then eating absurd amounts of chicken breast)

Tone it down on both ends. Find a happy balance that you can sustain every day.

>>76520174
I don't mean this in a mean-spirited way.
But your post reads exactly like a testimonial/psych profile you'd find next to the '90% of dieters gain their weight back' paragraph in the dietetics textbook.

>>76520185
Happy balance is just smokescreen for disordered eating

>>76518392
>What i mean is that i eat shit like ground beef and spaghetti and that will basically be my meal
I take it you're really rawdogging beef mince on pasta with no sauce (or jarred tomato sauce) and got no cooking skills beyond that?

>>76520185
>>76520195
I know. Balanced diet with a caloric deficit and regular exercise is how I lost the weight in the first place. I know fasting doesn't work and binging is bad, but I still did it. Nothing else to do now but recognize I fucked up and fix it.
I made the post because there's no one in my life to talk to and I want to hold myself accountable somehow.

>>76520102
Be glad that you woke up to this at 95kg, and not back at 120kg. Just because you gained 5kg doesn't mean you failed, you fail when you stop trying to reach your goal weight.

>>76520197
If you had experienced it you wouldn't post stupid shit like that.

>>76519953
>>76519874
>fast food
you'd be better off eating bacon

>>76520219
hot dog link+slice of sandwich bread for breakfast
hot dog link+slice of sandwich bread for lunch
(small) sandwich with your choice of insides (no cheese) for dinner.
try it out for a week you'll drop 2.5 kg

>>76519968
you could be less of a retard and replace the fries with more sausages

>>76519874
>$8 for 3 tacos
>500 calories

>>76518392
a couple of tins of tomatoes, chop half an onion, some garlic, some tomato puree, maybe a stock cube and trust me that ground beef becomes great

>>76520232
You're just privileged that a healthy balanced diet works for you

i havent gone more than a week without having at least one zerosugar can of sodas a day for 6 months now and the only thing thats happened is its made it easier to be on a calorie deficit

>>76520322
what did you think would or could happen?

>>76519527
water weight is maybe 3-7 pounds

>Tried to fast for 36 hours yesterday
>gave up after 16 because the hunger wouldn't go away and I couldn't sleep
>Trying again today
>21 hours in now and the hunger won't go away this time either
This sucks, I used to be able to do 3 day fasts every few days and now I can't even go two days without intense hunger.

>>76520368
ngmi

>>76520322
yea, there are some hardcores spewing bullshit.

I am glad you found something that works. Keep it up.

>>76520368
>I used to
keyword used
fasting is a skill that's easily forgettable for the body

>>76520310
I'm not sitting on my ass all day starving myself and whining about it on the internet.
I am patient with my fat loss, extemely active, cook meals for myself in a way that I don't get bored but I also don't have to spend hours cooking every day, monitor everything, work and study.
I earned feeling great while losing weight, the amount of food I eat makes me feel like I'm on a surplus because if I was having your life those calories would be an actual surplus.
You have not earned your opinion in any way, it's worthless and devoid of actual experience or effort.

>>76520394
You're assuming people didn't do any of this, they did
You are lucky that it works for you

very crab bucket in here today.

>>76520368
>mental illness reinforcement app
lmao

>>76520399
I'm not lucky at all, I earned it.
You didn't do shit, you half assed it.
If you hadn't half-assed it you wouldn't be binging right now, you would have taken your maintenance month break, stuck to your goals and continued your cut like you should have.
And your constant cope posts are confirmation of that.

>>76520402
thats what happens when we dont have a wholesome nun thread

>>76520409
I'm not that guy and I'm not binging
Saying that I half-assed it without knowing anything is just arrogance from a position of privilege where your easy as fuck healthy and balanced diet works for you

Conventional weight loss is horse shit and doesn’t work I’m getting on peptides next month. Anyone with me?

>>76520419
If you're not binging it means you're privileged, you should stop typing on 4chan and go donate to the fatty fund sponsored by McDonald's

>>76520410
>le hecking wholesome avatarfag with le reddit link xD

kys

>>76520402
>today
You’re on 4chan retard

>>76520429
No

>>76520433
Nah I'm good, I'm fine with calling out arrogant gate-keeping faggotry such as yours

>>76520197
>>76520310
>>76520419
>healthy and balanced eating is disordered and privileged
I don't care to dissect the rest of the argument you are having, but this is a fucking terrible mindset, I really hope it's bait.

>>76520447
I'm pretty sure that you will manage to get to your goal weight or close to it at least but with that mindset you'll be back to square 1 within a year.
Have fun with your life.

>>76520402
There’s a lot of bad posts and bad advice that need to be called out. For example, not too long ago there was some retard defending taco bell, then before that, there was another monkey saying “snacking is essential”

>>76520408
>eat a little less every day
>>STUNNING AND BRAVE SO PROUD OF YOU XISTER
>don't eat for a few days
>>NOOO YOU CAN'T DO THAT YOU'RE MENTALLY ILL THIS IS GOING TO KILL YOU STOP THIS RIGHT NOW CHUD

>>76520485
You know, it's kind of ironic. I find it strange that people in the fat loss general who obviously didn't know very much about nutrition or they wouldn't have been fat are so dogmatic about the right way to go about losing it. Between that and the constant insult slinging that goes around here, I think it makes for a pretty negative half or so of the population of these generals.

>>76520494
I'm not that guy, but needing an app for this and for something as basic as not eating is extremely cringe.

>>76520494
I'm currently on a week-long fast, and it feels pretty good.

>>76520502
what for?

>>76520521
Weight loss...

>>76520322
bs lol

>>76520368
>for superior brain function
Why do you need an app that straight up lies to you?

>>76520501
>but needing an app for this
it takes 30 seconds to download and a minute to set up, why wouldn't you? it looks pretty, helps you keep track of the precise timing, and records your weight loss / fasting history

>>76520498
>>>/reddit/

>>76520498
>>76520542
Samefag

>>76520546
you lost

>>76520472
Of course you will say that, because you're a crab who wants to see failure in others and you're pre-emptively trying to deny success by saying "even if you get to your goal weight you will fail eventually"

>>76520464
It was just a jab at him calling fasting and eating chickenbreast disordered eating
Everyone is different, and different things work for different people
Some people can eat keto, some people can do low fat, some people can do IIFYM, some people can do balanced and healthy diet, some people prefer fasting and eating more on feast days
As long as you can consistently keep your calories low you will lose weight

>>76520525
whats unbelievable about it?

>>76520546
you fucking got me

Get that workout in, don't wait

WAGMI

>>76520502
how many pounds per week on a fast?

>>76520557
i drink diet and zero shit and lose weight

>>76520402
/fat/ has always been like this and I've been browsing here since the pandemic, fatties are all very insecure and mentally ill in general, me included

>>76520575
We can do fent and lose weight too, But are we really getting healthier

>>76520589
Comparing fentanyl a deadly drug that demonstrably kills people to sweeteners that have been rigorously tested is disingenuous and worthless
It serves no meaning other than being a punchline that falls apart after 1 second of scrutiny

>>76520598
all that fat made him a mentally ill schizo lel

>>76520598
>sweeteners that have been rigorously tested
lol

>>76520589
the thread is /fat/
Are you new here? This thread has never been healthy. It is full of us fat retards coping and trying to do everything to stay unhealthy but lose weight.

I'm so fat and lonely and horny and sad and hungry and lazy and poor

>>76520625
fat schizo lol

>>76520629
Welcome to the club

>>76520598
coke > artificial sweeteners > fent

>>76520637
i tried coke once

>>76520570
Won't know for sure until the end of the month honestly. But, I'd say maybe 6?

It has diminishing returns pretty quick and your body goes into low power mode after 4-5 days and then the loss slows down quite a bit. So, it's not really worth doing. Intermittent is a much better way of doing things. Skip a day a week, and it's way more effective.

But, I guess I'm just trying to prove a point to myself about willpower.

can I trust that a costco pizza slice actually has 40g of protein

>>76520664
Lol

>>76520664
Nope, even the calorie count is likely underestimated at any commercial fast food place

>>76520667
>>76520670
it's
>44g protein
>760 calories
doesn't seem too crazy...

>>76520683
760??

>>76520692
yeah have you actually tried one? they're massive

>>76520641
how was it?

NEW THREAD

>>76517532
>>76517532
>>76517532
>>76517532
>>76517532

>>76520683
Yea it does

I feel like eating is my hobby. Idk what to do with my body or with other people if we can’t go out and eat.

>>76520730
that's not a new thread!

>>76520498
they do know about failing. If they could follow the basic shit they wouldn't be here. Not sure if that makes them smarter or dumber than the insulting trash.

>>76520730
That thread is older than this one!

>>76517541
>sea salt edamame
I wish people had told me about these they mog the shit out of peanuts.

>>76517579
So you only had 1 8 ounce cup of water all day? This nigga dehydrated.

I ate 2300 calories today but I ran 5 miles plus many sets of pull ups plus last night's bench session so I hope I will still lose fat today

>>76520534
The ease of doing something has nothing to do with its usefulness or its cultural appearance. It's easy for me to shampoo my hair with motor oil, but it doesn't mean it's useful or that if people knew that I did that they wouldn't laugh at me. If you need an app to know that you started not eating at 9 o'clock on Wednesday, I don't know what to tell you, man.

>>76520707
Fizzy

>>76520993
What's your BMR and H/W