Thread 76518465

I will never understand mtf trannies. Im a fat girl and can only eat ~700 calories a day if I want to be in a deficit to lose fat. I had an pepperoni omelet and yogurt (770kcal and 50g of protein) and now I cant eat anything else for the rest of the day or I will still be fat. Id do anything to be a tall guy who can eat 2000 calories and still be skinny and cute.

so your tdee is 701 calories or what? are you 3 feet tall?

>>76518465 (OP)
700 calories a day sounds way too low. How did you come to that number?

>>76518465 (OP)
Listen here little baby. You're gonna get a lot of hurtful and degrading comments, but that ain't what I'm about. Let me just say, you are perfect the way you are. You hear me sugar? PERFECT. Don't ever change. You deserve anything and everything you want. Stay safe for me, baby girl.

>>76518484
>>76518485
I need around 700 calories a day if I want to be in a deficit to lose fat. My tdee is ~1300. Eating at your tdee wont make you lose weight, it will just maintain it.

>>76518496
You should kill yourself anon. Im not going to let some random online indian tell me that i should stay fat.

>>76518506
Listen up, sunshine. The world’s gonna throw shade, spit venom, and try to tear you down, but not me. Oh no, darling, I’m here to lift you up. You are a walking masterpiece, a once-in-a-lifetime miracle, and don’t you dare forget it. You hear me, starlight? ABSOLUTELY UNREAL. Never dull your shine, never clip your wings. You deserve galaxies, crowns, and every last drop of joy this life can squeeze out. Now promise me—you’ll stay golden for me, angel.

>>76518506
if you're fat and your tdee is 1300 you must be a midget
also the "stay safe bb girl" is 10 years old at this point

>>76518465 (OP)
>~700 calories a day
how tall are you? 4'6?

>>76518506
Its a copypasta newfaggot

>>76518513
>can only eat ~700 calories a day if I want to be in a DEFICIT

>>76518465 (OP)
Yes but you wouldn’t be a tall man, you’d be 5’4 and you would have to work out a lot to maybe get one girlfriend who treats you miserably.

>>76518465 (OP)
This is a wildly stupid way to approach this and 1300 TDEE is a ridiculous miscalculation or you're a midget who doesn't ever intend to move out of a chair.
The only thing any tranny has on you is not being retarded, and that's a fairly small percentage of them too.

>>76518524
give the height and weight then, fatty
>inb4 5'0" 150lb

>>76518524
That is a retarded question unless you are super short.

>>76518525
Why would I be shorter as a tall guy than I already am as a girl? If I were a 5'5+ guy, I could eat 2000 calories a day and still be skinny. Life would be so much better.

>>76518506
Listen to a few episodes of the Rooted in Resilience podcast, they had a whole series with a guest where they went through the Minnesota Starvation Experiment. They discussed the impacts of chronic undereating based on the study findings, the refeed methods that were used, and strategy for building up maintenance calories. The episodes are not named clearly, unfortunately, so you might have to go through it a bit to pick them out, but they're really interesting.
If you can bump up your maintenance by even just a few hundred calories, that's a big win.

>>76518537
You could also get out of bed for a few minutes and walk around. That'd increase your TDEE
What is your aversion to exercise? You don't mention doing any.

>>76518537
post your height.

>>76518537
Because being a tall guy is harder to come by and if you’re a woman it doesn’t matter your height men will still want to date you

>>76518528
>>76518530
>1300 TDEE is a ridiculous miscalculation
I know you guys dont talk to girls much, but I thought it was common sense that girls should eat way less than guys.

>>76518465 (OP)
your tdee isn't 700.
The fatter you are the higher your tdee is; you would need a lot of calories to maintain your fatass. That's why the whole, "my metabolism is slow, that's why i'm fat" concept is retarded.

>>76518564
Get the fuck outta here. My gf is 5'5 and about 15lbs lighter. I would NEVER suggest she eat like that and I'd assume she had some kind of problem if she started trying it. She eats a ridiculous shitload for a woman and is fine, though we go to the gym.
What fucking EXERCISE do you do? Gf goes to the gym and lifts. I assume you do nothing and just want to lament your weird ass anorexia copes?

>>76518564
If those are your numbers, your BMI is 22, which is not fat.
Disgusting attention whoring. kys.

>>76518568
>can only eat ~700 calories a day if I want to be in a DEFICIT
Can you guys not read? When did I ever say 700 calories was my tdee?

>>76518564
your TDEE is supposed to be your BMR + exercise calories lost


BMR is the minimum to maintain your weight with doing nothing.

yes I am also a tranny and have a smaller BMR than you. I also want to do this
*sticks tongue in your mouth and makes out with you*

>>76518591
What excerise do you do?
Can you not read?

>>76518564
>5'3" 130lb
>overweight
you have body dysmorphia and potentially anorexia
do not lose weight
even by BMI standards you are not overweight
if you dont like how you look, eat at maintenance, increase protein uptake to at least 75g/day, and lift. you wont get bigger unless you eat more than maintenance

this entire thread is bait
shame on all of you

>>76518600
She doesn't mention a bit of exercise and her diet revolves around restriction
Definitely anorexia, though probably early stage.

>>76518465 (OP)
>Im a fat girl and can only eat ~700 calories a day if I want to be in a deficit to lose fat.
False. Why are women so fucking retarded when it comes to fitness?

>>76518575
She is probably light but has those weird muscles that women who go to the gym have. I dont want to look like that. Im planning to diet and do only cardio.
>>76518584
Its not skinny though.
>>76518592
Im not a tranny.

>>76518600
>>76518607
how is this anorexia? Are you guys power lifters or just tall that you never seen a 130lbs 5'3" woman. It's chubby at best, worse if you have very low muscle mass which most women do.

So OPs body most likely looks flabby as hell and not that attractive. The ideal woman has a small waist and a tight body, one needs a low weight and both can be helped with gaining muscle.

realistically it is not that far off for someone to lose 10-15 lbs from her weight

>>76518611
>weird muscles
You mean abs and hips? She doesn't have bodybuilder roid arms for lifting as a natty woman a few times a week, you trolling fuck. There is no possible way somebody is this stupid, and yet I took the bait!

>>76518614
Anorexia isn't just by weight.
This is anorexia because you refuse to exercise and have a delusional attitude toward food and calories. You may not be wasting away now but if you keep this shit up, you will be.

>>76518611
>Im not a tranny.
so what I still would kiss you and take you to the gym's closet to make out with you

>>76518564
Your BMI is within the healthy range. You should not be eating 700 calories (slightly above half of your TDEE) at your height and weight. That’s basically torture. I suggest reevaluating your goals. Since you are a bit closer to the overweight threshold, you could try either eating at a much lower calorie deficit to more gradually reach a healthy goal weight or even simply increasing your physical activity a bit.

>>76518611
>its not skinny though.
go to a therapist you have a disorder
>>76518614
maybe, but eating 500cal deficit at that low of a body weight will not be sustainable, which is what shes complaining about.
she is choosing to lose at a high rate for one express purpose, to be skinny, as opposed to larger health benefits.

>>76518611
>Its not skinny though.
bullshit. Post your body, stupid baiting fag.

>>76518620
>This is anorexia because you refuse to exercise and have a delusional attitude toward food and calories. You may not be wasting away now but if you keep this shit up, you will be.
I'm not OP.
But exercise is pretty much necessary to lose weight at that weight so I would recommend it.

I don't necesarrily think it is sustainable to live off of 700 calories, it's hard enough to get enough vitamins/nutrition on a regular maintenance like 1300 especially with days where you won't want to eat the same similar type of shit.

how are they bad with food?

>>76518631
Theyre bad with food in the sense that they have a fixation with restriction their diet based on TDEE rather than focusing on exercise to increase TDEE and eat normally. The food they mention eating is fine.

>>76518628
>maybe, but eating 500cal deficit at that low of a body weight will not be sustainable, which is what shes complaining about.
No I agree I wrote this post >>76518631

I guess I can understand your reasoning. I used to diet exclusively and it is pretty much impossible to eat at that calories unless you become bedridden 75% of the day and don't do much in terms of using your brain. It is very hard to do anything on that calorie intake.

I do see how you connect OP to just wanting to look pretty but I think most women are like that. I think if OP were to think and take it to a 100lbs at her height it would be anorexia.

>>76518640
Oh and if guess I'd add to this that a woman inhaling 50g protein for a snake-meal in the morning better be drinking a fuckload of water if she wants to keep her kidneys kek

>>76518465 (OP)
>omelet and yogurt (770kcal and 50g of protein)
that's a lot of calories for a single meal
split it up into 2 meals and add lots of veggies for filling
like 200g blanched spinach, mushrooms, carrots etc.

>now I cant eat anything else for the rest of the day or I will still be fat
that's entirely your fault
again, you could easily make 2x 350kcal meals

>>76518506
>500kcal deficit
i know that this is always recommended here
but with such a low tdee it's kinda hard
>inb4 muh b-but not for me I ate 1kcal/day and was fine

either
>increase tdee and eat your original 1300kcal
add daily cardio / endurance workouts to burn an additional 300-500kcal
like 45min cycling or swimming will burn ~300kcal
>decrease deficit to 200-300kcal
you can add a full low calorie meal
progress will be slower, though it's not entirely linear
but slow progress is better than giving up

>>76518640
Im going to start doing cardio in the mornings too, so I can try to burn off the calories I eat. Its just hard to start if you are not used to it.
>>76518648
Of course im drinking water anon.

>>76518640
Hmm I think she did mention doing exercise like cardio but she sounds like a fitnoob. She will probably still look flabby as hell unless she loses 40 lbs from weight which she will still look terrible because now she looks like a skeleton.

I think overtime she will realize she needs to gain some muscle to make her body look ideal, not bodybuilder type of body but most women are scared to step into that space.

>>76518648
I'm a similar height/weight to OP. Although I do drink like 8 cups of water a day, I didn't know it was that bad to inhale 50G in one sitting

>OP responds to some posts
>none of the posts mentioning anorexia
gets the noggin joggin

>>76518655
Please lift weights if you want to increase tdee. I'm not the type to say cardio is bad for you, but have you ever kicked your own ass on a cardio machine and then looked down to see 300 calories burned and you're tired as shit and disappointed because that's basically 2 small yogurts?
Lifting burns more calories in the moment, if done properly, so is a better use of your time here, and ALSO increasing TDEE for days afterward as your body needs those calories to repair the muscles and build them.
I PROMISE you that you will not get too big or too toned. Get a little more toned than you'd like? Well, that is your chance to increase body fat back up a little to get the softer, more feminine look.

>>76518653
>that's a lot of calories for a single meal
>split it up into 2 meals and add lots of veggies for filling
>like 200g blanched spinach, mushrooms, carrots etc.
>>now I cant eat anything else for the rest of the day or I will still be fat


Not OP but I always found it hard to split meals up especially after a workout(lifting or cardio). I always feel weak, out of breath and lightheaded

How would you combat this? I usually exercise in the mornings before work so not much time to eat 2 hours or so I am not fasted

>>76518670
>Please lift weights if you want to increase tdee. I'm not the type to say cardio is bad for you, but have you ever kicked your own ass on a cardio machine and then looked down to see 300 calories burned and you're tired as shit and disappointed because that's basically 2 small yogurts?
how does lifting increase TDEE? From the websites I look at, it says it uses up maybe 100 or so calories per hour over cardio

I can't believe so many fatties are saying 700 is too little. Jesus what has this board become? You're set op, ignore these faggots

>>76518665
You can see my weight right there anon >>76518564 im not anorexic
>>76518670
>get the softer (fat) look
Lmao WHY would i want that? Im already soft (fat).

>>76518682
Thanks anon. And the guy whos saying 700 is too little is also the one saying women should be soft (aka fat) lol. Why is this board so full of guys with feeder kinks?

>>76518677
When you intentionally use progressive overload to build muscle, that process happens when the muscles develop micro-damage during the lifting (this is natural and fine), and then your body builds more muscle as it repairs from the lift (this is why rest days are important, gotta repair and build).
Both repairing muscle fibers and building new ones are metabolically expensive on the cellular level. That cost is paid in calories and the new stuff is built with protein (you're doing great with that part). It takes days afterward to complete repairs, and that costs calories the entire time. This effect stacks, to a small extent, when you lift regularly.
Don't get me wrong, cardio does this too to some extent naturally because it is a use of muscle, but it is nowhere near as efficient with what you're talking about. Main reason to do lots of cardio is to git gud at cardio. Practicing for marathons if your actual goal is to run in them, you know.

>>76518687
>Lmao WHY would i want that? Im already soft (fat).
are you a tranny? I think you are but for some reason you sound scared to admit it.
Do you possibly want to engage in a kissing cardio session with another mtf because I heard you could lose 2 calories per min so that is like 120 calories an hours for something low effort. Plus the added benefit of doing it in front of a bunch of /fat/nons

>>76518698
I'm not OP but I think what you mean is that higher muscle mass means your TDEE is higher without doing much. The less muscle mass you have the less energy your body has to use to keep it in tact.
Otherwise I wouldn't say you could eat an additional 500 calories because you lifted today, it will put you in a calorie surplus won't it?

>>76518674
>I always feel weak, out of breath and lightheaded
clear sign of low blood sugar
probably because you lift after waking up without a meal?

100kcal of something carb / sugar will fix this instantly
>How would you combat this?
literally just eat a banana and you'll be fine

also you don't split your meal literally, it was meant figuratively
you need to add things that make you feel full
low calorie density food
and you don't want blood sugar spikes for your regular meals
only eat whole foods / grains / complex carbs (if at all) that get digested more slowly

>>76518710
>clear sign of low blood sugar
probably... I usually keep some form of sugar snacks like gummies to help.

Depending on how consistent I am with calorie deficits, 100 calories won't cut it in the mornings, maybe my deficit would be too steep in that case?

>only eat whole foods / grains / complex carbs (if at all) that get digested more slowly
makes sense, maybe I should reduce on my goyslop inventory

You will still lose weight at 1k calories per day and its much more sustainable
Dumb fat bitch if you had someone to fuck you every day then you'd get even faster in shape

>>76518682
>I can't believe so many fatties are saying 700 is too little
that's common sense, not fatties

700 is difficult to sustain
you can, but 1000kcal is already considerably easier
700 just increases the odds you give up

also if OP would actually lift or do cardio
her TDEE wouldn't stay at 1300 but go up quickly
>1h workout per day
and she could easily add 300-500kcal, a whole meal, while staying at her deficit

>>76518707
Well, 2 things firstly having muscle mass absolutely does raise tdee passively.
Saying "i lifted today so I can't eat 500 extra calories" is sort of right, but on a weird basis. Fitness takes place on a weekly/monthly rate and not daily. So a more correct statement would be "i lifted 3 times this week and so next week I should probably add about [x] amount of calories"
Part of tuning that in is just exercising and knowing your own body.

>>76518720
>maybe I should reduce on my goyslop inventory
yeah...

that should've been the first thing you should've done when you began dieting
you know, purging the food that literally makes you crave more...

>100 calories won't cut it in the mornings
>maybe my deficit would be too steep in that case?
you work out every morning and cannot add 100kcal???

your other meals are probably way to big
maybe cut down aggressively there first before jeopardizing your workout performance

>>76518723
Im going to start doing cardio in the mornings too. I actually bought a jump rope last week. Im not planning on just dieting.

>>76518736
>going to start doing
>bought rope last week
>still haven't done any
ngmi fatty

>>76518729
>Well, 2 things firstly having muscle mass absolutely does raise tdee passively.
oh i agree with that may have came across as different

>"i lifted 3 times this week and so next week I should probably add about [x] amount of calories"
that depends on well, how would you measure the right amount? I can easily overeat a full meal of at least 500 calories unless I mentally tell myself not to.

I guess you just understand when symptoms arise like lightheadedness, you usually eat this much and never have symptoms. You went a little harder at the gym this week so maybe a bit more calories until you feel back to normal will be enough?

>>76518735
>that should've been the first thing you should've done when you began dieting
Well I've been doing a pretty ok job at not binge eating all of it, I just have some each day depending on my desire.

>you work out every morning and cannot add 100kcal???
Well yes I do and 100 calories I mean is too low. I still feel lightheaded and fatigued if I consistently do my deficit.
I

>>76518747
Last week was basically two days ago, considering todays monday lol

>>76518757
Why are you using a fat girl thread as advice? Go post in the fat loss thread.

>>76518768
>Why are you using a fat girl thread as advice? Go post in the fat loss thread.
B ecause I am fat girl too

>>76518757
>I guess you just understand when symptoms arise like lightheadedness, you usually eat this much and never have symptoms. You went a little harder at the gym this week so maybe a bit more calories until you feel back to normal will be enough?
Unironically, this is exactly it. When you actually NEED more food, your body will let you know. It's a different type of hunger.

>>76518779
>Unironically, this is exactly it. When you actually NEED more food, your body will let you know. It's a different type of hunger.
that's amazing anon. you sound like a body scientist...

>>76518465 (OP)
>Im a fat girl and can only eat

If you're still fat in your 20 you're fucked. In general, it's way harder for you to lose weight now and keep that weight. Like think about some smoker who smokes 2 packs a day, that's how much you fucked up your body, but the smoker can quit, and his body will detoxify. With fat, that doesn't really happen.

>>76518792
>do fat people have fat on them?

>>76518789
"Fatty hunger" and "i need more calories because my body literally needs them to complete its work hunger" are two distinct feelings, yes.

>>76518800
point is once you get fat cells it's really hard to get rid of them.

>>76518779
Sounds more like withdrawal not real hunger

>>76518757
>I just have some each day depending on my desire.
seriously, why?

it's really really easy to avoid the common uhp goyslop
and it makes dieting so much easier
even if you have "control" over your binge eating
why keep temptations in your house?

>>76518822
That could be the case for fat people, I guess. I have never really had that sort of relationship with food so it didn't occur to me to mention. I've always just kinda been the type of person to just want to eat and move on
>fry 4 eggs, eat them in 4 bites, lunch is now over and I can get back to whatever autistic shit I actually want to be doing

>>76518831
>why keep temptations in your house?
The reason is I have a problem where if I am near food that is sweet or with my cravings I will binge eat if I am allowed to. I cannot always control where I am, what I can eat so I want to gain the ability to eat in moderation so I no longer binge eat. For the most part I have been doing good, I think I have 1-2 bad slip up days.
If I do slip up really badly, I will usually just throw out the entire box.

>>76518822
>Sounds more like withdrawal not real hunger
how do you know it is withdrawal for sure?

>>76518844
then do more cardio complete dieting without exercising is retarded, you need to change your lifestyle.

>>76518465 (OP)
>wanting to waste time and money on food
damn food addicted idiots

>>76518850
If you are hungry, and meat (actual animal flesh, not processed stuff), dairy, eggs sound really tasty, you are actually hungry. And should eat that. If you are woozy and feel lightheaded type hungry, you need salt and carbs (pls pick rice or potatoes)
If none of that sounds really tasty to you and you'd prefer some other type of food, that is probably withdrawl.

>>76518850
Cause hunger doesn't cause lightheadedness, as a fatty I never had real hunger until I got lean when I noticed real hunger comes from the stomach
Those nasty feelings you have in your head are usually withdrawal or bloodsugar/electrolyte issues but if you're eating daily you wouldn't really have those

Trans girl here. I mog you fatty.

>>76518869
As if any tranny could mog a bio woman lol

>>76518869
post body slut

>>76518844
>if I am near food that is sweet or with my cravings I will binge eat if I am allowed to
have you never asked yourself why some (most) people don't binge eat / have those cravings?

if you
>change your diet to something healthy
>eat consciously
>work out regularly
>for 2-3y at least
your brain likely rewires and you stop having those cravings all together

modern uhp goyslop is almost like drugs
and you don't see alcoholics drink just a little occasionally to "control" their addiction...

the goal shouldn't be to be able to eat that stuff in moderation (although it's better than nothing)
your goal should be to be disgusted by it and never touch it ever again

>>76518977
This wont work out if you are a short girl btw

>>76518564
ohhhh this is eating disorder bait, not retard bait
thanks for clarifying
anyway tits or gtfo

>>76519010
>This wont work out if you are a short girl btw
what part?
the eating healthy, working out or stop stuffing your face with the worst ultra high processed industry slop imaginable part?

because non of those have anything to do with gender nor height

>inb4 muh cycle
you can adapt your diet to your cycle (e.g. vary calorie budget, keep monthly avg) but this changes none of my points

>>76518524
even half a calorie is a deficit you idiot. glad you clarified that you're going for a 600 calorie deficit whatever reason

>>76518564
wow so you don't even know what bmr vs tdee is. and you said tdee is around 1300 when in fact the calories you would burn in a coma is closer to 1400. braindead

>90 posts
>still no tits
>falling for this bait
It is over for /fit/.

>>76518564
she can just eat like 1400 cal and do a bit of cardio and still lose an lb a week. I'm a tall girl so my bmr is 1500 something but I'm easily losing weight on ~1800 cals

foids live on baby in diapers mode
literally ALL they have to do is not stuff their face
guys actually have to lift heavy WHILE on a fucking deficit to look decent

>>76518506
where do newfags get the gall to make threads? I guarantee this bitch is from /r9k/, that board has no place on this site at all

>>76518465 (OP)
why are the anime girl OP's always associated with extreme weight loss AGP faggotry?

>>76518465 (OP)
what do trannies have to do with this

>>76518648
You are a stinky retard, I eat 40g of protein in the morning with oats and have never had kidney issues.
>>76518611
Ask me how I know you're super insecure. Women who have muscles that you think are gross are pinning test, and your idols are probably working out to have toned arms/legs. You don't know how hard it is to actually build muscle as a woman. The only exception is if youre asian. And even then, you will only attract weird kpop coomers.
t. married to a hot Korean
>>76518564
Also btw this deficit is insane. Think of it in percentages. If someone who eats 2k calories drops 500 to eat 1500, that's a 25% deficit. When you drop 500 to eat 700, that's almost a 40% deficit. Do you see how one is sustainable and one isn't?

Anyway, you sound lost. I think you should focus on yourself. Develop a toxic hobby like being racist on anonymous image boards.

>>76518465 (OP)
You could increase your tdee by doing vigorous cardio and weightlifting 5 days a week.

>>76520754
Or having hot steamy sex with me

>>76518869
>I mog you
In collecting STDs

>>76518465 (OP)
>Id do anything to be a tall guy who can eat 2000 calories and still be skinny and cute.
>Finger curls shut on the monkey's paw
You are now a tall guy who HAS to eat 4000 calories per day MINIMUM. Or you can die alone because you look fragile and gay.

>>76520924
Unless you're seriously overtraining, then you'll probably just turn into a tall fat guy on 4000kcal. I've done both the overtraining and the tall fat guy, would recommend more around 3000kcal with moderate training from learning the hard way, lol.

>>76518977
>>change your diet to something healthy
My diet is already mostly healthy. I recently added back goyslop, I still craved it regardless.I think my body is not absorbing enough nutrients from food as I always have to supplement with electrolytes/vitamins.

>your goal should be to be disgusted by it and never touch it ever again
Yeah but it is very rare to find friends who don't eat goyslop. Are you going to be the weird one who just doesn't eat and everyone thinks has an eating disorder?

>>76518866
>but if you're eating daily you wouldn't really have those
It only really is something that comes up after working out or if my deficit is steeper than usual. Sometimes napping helps, but usually it is just a deficit problem/bloodsugar I am thinking.

>>76518864
does bread sound fine? I like rice and potatoes but I used to eat them as my basically only carbs and got sick of them.

>>76520938
>would recommend more around 3000kcal with moderate training from learning the hard way, lol.
When I first started working out I too felt the same and learned that conclusion.

>>76520938
Well maybe we shall learn the consequences of overtraining soon enough.
>t. 3700 cal TDEE +500 for the bulk

>>76520964
When it is actually time to eat carbs, the rice and potatoes will sound tasty again. Bread is one of two things I heavily limit in diet, the other being alcohol. Not like you can't ever have it but that's kind of the problem with bread- it always sounds good to eat, no?

>>76521177
>it always sounds good to eat, no?
meh
I mean I used to eat a whole loaf of bread as a kid but that was only because I didn't know how to cook anything besides eggs and just had a loaf of bread to eat.

Today I can go by 1 or 2 slices of bread and that will set me up for the day. Some days I don't have any depending on my mood.

>>76520964
>I still craved it regardless
because you probably gave up after a few weeks
exactly why I wrote 2-3years

>stable habits only form after >300days
and this differs from person to person
>gut microbiome changes after >6weeks
more likely double that
>taste changes over a few weeks up to months

so unless you avoided the goyslop for AT LEAST a year, obviously you can't expect big changes

>it is very rare to find friends who don't eat goyslop
in my friend group, literally no one eats shitty uhp food (regularly)

>Are you going to be the weird one who just doesn't eat
yes.
these are your friends, not enemies, why wouldn't they support you

>>76522191
>because you probably gave up after a few weeks
No I would have said I gave up after a few weeks. This is after 2-3 years. The thing about junk food, some of it I don't really like so it's easy to not bother eating.

Stuff like soda, mcdonalds, it's nothing I crave so it was easy to cut that stuff out of my diet.

The remainder are cravings from time to time. I don't think it's just a time thing.

>in my friend group, literally no one eats shitty uhp food (regularly)
regularly is where it is. If we go out we most likely will be exposed to some form of it. I already don't drink alcohol so they would think I'm weird.
>these are your friends, not enemies, why wouldn't they support you
They would probably try to support me by helping me seek out people that are experts in eating disorder. You realize most people don't think it's normal to avoid all types of junk food. I do avoid it most days and at most have a small amount and something less processed on the spectrum

>>76518506
>My tdee is 1300
Not possible unless you're like 4'6" and weigh literally 100 pounds. Post height and weight. I think you have an eating disorder.

>>76523633
Already posted it here >>76518564

>>76518465 (OP)
I don't understand them either.
But otherwise, my wife suffers from the same thing. I'll tell you the same thing I'm telling her but she refuses to follow through: not only focus on cico but also try to focus on food composition. Make those calories meaningful with lots of protein, and as little sugar and fat as possible. Also try to exercise every other day at least. It can be any sport or lifting.
I believe in you!

>>76523640
TDEE and BMR are very different things you dumdum

>>76523711
I dont do any exercise (besides light cardio) so its not like its going to change much.

>>76523742
So you just came here to bitch about the struggles of starving yourself?
Not the place. This is for fitness, dummy.

>>76523742
BMR is the bare minimum of calories to survive without activity of any kind. Unless all you do is lay in bed 24/365 you should be eating more than your BMR. You should be using the "sedentary" activity level to determine your TDEE. If you do cardio you should be using the "light exercise 1-3x week" activity level to determine your actual energy expenditure.

Eating lower than BMR is unhealthy.

>>76518564
ABSOLUTE DIMWIT,your BMR is not your TDEE,you are not eating below TDEE you're eating below BMR which is dangerous as fuck actually,the crash is going to be fun, can't believe you sit there and spout how things are and teach us boys how it's done

>>76523742
>I dont do any exercise
Doesn't matter, your TDEE is still like 1600-1700 even fully sedentary
>(besides light cardio)
Even light cardio, done regularly and for a reasonable amount of time, burns more calories than you probably realize

>>76523761
>Eating lower than BMR is unhealthy.
>>76523766
>eating below BMR which is dangerous as fuck
Unless you're obese. It's not applicable in this case, but should still be mentioned.

>>76523766
>the crash is going to be fun
Crash lol just ate 830 calories today. A bit more than yesterday but i feel perfectly fine. You can rate my meal here >>76523566

>>76518465 (OP)
You are anorexic

>>76523955
Anorexic girls are best

>>76523963
This, had an 5'2 70ibs girlfriend who i could lift with one hand, sex was crazy

>>76518564
That;s not your TDEE retard that's your fucking BMR. That's approximately how many calories you'd burn just from laying down being alive and doing nothing. Your TDEE is very likely 200-300 calories higher at least because I assume you are not so fat that you're non ambulatory. Exercise is key to losing weight, but you're clearly in a poor mental state right now. Get well soon.

>>76518465 (OP)
If you're not a troll (unlikely) here's something that works nicely for smaller people:

2 of your daily meals are now protein smoothies.
my favorite is
- 125g frozen berries (affordable at costco, $12 bag makes 20 smoothies)
- 1 scoop vanilla protein powder
- a few nuts. I like 3-4 brazil nuts
- 50g low fat greek yogurt
- 250g skim milk
- I also put my creatine in here

Just under 300Kcal, 40+ grams of protein depending on the powder you use.

I do another one that's chocolate protein powder with a banana but desu the berry one is more delicious.

Other than that just have 1 macro focused meal. For today I'm having lentil daal with chicken breast on top. Super high fiber and protein with very little added fat, so it ends up being low calories for the macros it packs in. I find it helps to figure out your macros and kcals before including the rice / bread in your dinner and then include that after in an amount that gets you to your calorie goal. Higher protein is even more important when your calories are limited.

If you don't do your nutrition properly then a calorie deficit will not be sustainable and you will start to feel and look like shit. Aim for 30% of your calories to be from protein, and make sure you get at least _some_ saturated fats for hormone production. Nuts are great for this. So is coconut oil for your cooking. Just don't over-do it.

>>76524051
Are you out of your mind? Liquid calories like smoothies are the worst way to make someone feel full for the rest of the day. And your two shit smoothies are going to cost me almost 700 calories (you didnt count correctly, probably on purpose to trick me I guess)
>Just under 300 kcal
These two smoothies are going to take 700 calories which is almost my BMR in a deficit. I wish I could actually kill you right now. Also
>lentil daal
Pajeet detected, so get out of my thread.

>>76523033
>You realize most people don't think it's normal to avoid all types of junk food
topkek
what kind of "normal" people do you have around??

i repeat my self
but in my (extended) social circle, it's absolutely NOT normal to eat goyslop
and if someone buys / eats some they know it's bad

>>76518564
Dudette, you should eat 1700 to be at deficit, not 1300 lmao do you just lie down on the floor all day?

>>76524138
Btw that probably third world fat bitch is not OP.
>what kind of "normal" people do you have around??
American or western european young normal people. Its normal to eat junk food at night with friends.
>it's absolutely NOT normal to eat goyslop
Hoe leaves in an african village.

>>76524108
> I need to feel full!!!
yeah I can see that you are fat. Your body adjusts to what you do every day. How do you think people eat one meal a day and don't feel like shit all the time? They do it every day and it covers their macros.
Also if you don't like lentils you are not worth talking to. Eat your lentils. They are the cheapest source of good protein and are packed with other benefits.

>>76524159
>American or western european young normal people. Its normal to eat junk food at night with friends.
no it's not
i live in western / central europe
and at least it's not normal around me

the worst kind of "junk food" eaten regularly is Döner
which isn't even real junk food, it's bread, vegetables, meat / falafel and a joghurt based sauce

maybe I just live in parallel world
or you all have really retarded people around you

>>76524138
>normal
I live in land of the free where 75% of people are overweight.

Other countries like euros and asian countries luckily have better food control since it's more accessible to get moderately healthy fast food.

All the fast food here is calorie dense, and america benefits from making their citizens slow, fat, weak, and dependent on the healthcare system to squeeze out as much money from them as possible.

>>76524532
slop is easily available in european and asian countries. fast food is not much healthier in europe than in america. it's about lifestyle mostly, and especially in east asian countries, it's about a culture of shame with regards to body image. walkable cities and a cultural predisposition toward healthier choices (including not stuffing children full of slop and fucking up their metabolism and ability to regulate food intake before they're even adults) make a massive difference.

>>76524555
>slop is easily available in european and asian countries
Yeah that anon >>76524421 is probably larping and lives in an africa village. The most common thing for european teenagers to do after a night out is to eat junk food at a place like five guys or someting like that.

>>76524555
You forget america is the land of fat positivity. Everyone here think it's weird if you never eat fast food, at least every now and then.

>>76518509
Dont let this one go OP. Hes a real catch.

you just gotta get used to starving, I used to feel like I was dying if i wasn't getting 1500cal a day. then I went through a 2 month period of bedrotting and only eating lime and chili ramen if I was really hungry. lost 30 lbs and can easily go 36 hours w/o food if i want.

if you were fat before your body was just being spoiled wtoh your earlier eating habits

>>76518506
Shhhh girl, post your boobs and everything will be alright

>>76524575
>european teenagers
>eat junk food at a place like five guys
there are like a dozen five guys in Germany
but over 20.000 Döner restaurants
guess what people eat more here...

before you ask what the next most common thing is
you just get something from a bakery
won't be health food, but at least it's not fried

fucking retarded mutt

>>76525151
>said the wrong goyslop calorie bomb
1000 apologies, Ahmed. Assalakamun be upon you.

>>76518465 (OP)
This problem gets solved if you move more, regardless of age, gender, size and mental illness.

>>76524626
i'm american but i live in the eu so i see the difference. people here will eat fast food from time to time, they'll get kebab, they'll order pizza, they'll have a burger or fried chicken and so on. it's just that they don't eat an entire bag of chips in one sitting, they don't drink 500 calories of sugar with their meal, they usually don't get the MegaHuge 5-Story Gut Destroyer with an Xtra Large Fry and 2 buckets of sauce and a 64 oz Oreo Extravaganza Diabetes Mellitus Frappuccino 5000. they don't stuff their face with junk food inside their house on a daily basis, they walk, they are often quite active, and so on. plus the little details with food regulations make some difference.
>>76524575
yeah the other anon is right they're not eating at 5 guys but then you are also right, it is quite common that teens go drink and eat junk. one of the main activities for teens in smaller towns actually

>>76525352
Yeah the main difference i saw in Europe was just portion size. The bigass junkfood megaslurps and triple bacon burgers just aren't sold. I really liked their orange fanta kek but it only came in the normal can, so you'd have to drink like 4 back to back to get the same amount as an American soda, which would be embarrassing. Oh and also they have better food regulations so that fanta has no HFCS and is naturally colored orange.
Interestingly, i noticed those small portion sizes only applied to shit food. If you went to a real restaurant and ordered real food, you'd get a super satisfying meal with a great ratio of main dish to sides. Any time an American bitches about European portion sizes, you know for sure that they only tried to eat fast food there.

>>76519250
Today, I will remind them.

1300kcal BMR is not 1300kcal TDEE even if you are 99% sedentary

>>76518465 (OP)
>Id do anything to be a tall guy who can eat 2000 calories and still be skinny and cute.
What you dont see is
>starving yourself and depriving yourself of nutrients throughout your youth to prevent development
>years later now you have an ed and you can only eat around two meals a day to stay in a calorie deficit because youre a huge man trying to look like a petite girl
>constantly have to look at your male skeleton and male physique anyways
>inject yourself with hormones to try and cope with the fact youll always be 5'7 so youre taller than every girl
>no one respects you irl for being a troon, so you live on the internet instead and this leads to a constant bombardment of pornography and images which further fuel your dysphoria, and now that being trans is further normalized every day you watch people transitioning younger and better than you ever could, the only way to feel like you have any power over your appearance at this point is to starve yourself comical amounts, skipping entire days or eating snacks to try and stay light
But at least I weigh 124 pounds and when I do my one social interaction of the month and we get food people will be impressed by how much my small body can eat :^)

>>76518564
You have a BMI of 22, you are at a healthy weight. You should focus your training and diet around achieving some fitness goal instead, it will make you look better