Thread 76522731

>*does everything*
>*fixes you*

>>76522731 (OP)
I've done this for a year and didn't notice anything it did.

>>76522731 (OP)
what is good about it?

>>76522731 (OP)
how much weight are you supposed to use for these? i can never tell

>>76522731 (OP)
one of those exercises you literally never see executed properly

>>76522990
Definitely not one to go super heavy with. I usually use a 30kg db.

>>76523023
What do people get wrong?

>>76523029
>relaxed posture
>scapula in fixed position

>>76523075
So, retract scapula, brace core?

>>76523168
Yes, flex ab, legs and glutes. Scapula should follow a weight, it's harder on flat bench. I use soft support under my midback

>>76522731 (OP)
Is it also supposed to fix the part where I don't have a gf?

>>76522731 (OP)
this exercise needs a rubberband otherwise top movement is losing tension

>>76522731 (OP)
>>76522737
>>76522738
>>76523023
>>76523364
>>76523376

>>76522731 (OP)
band lat pullover >

>>76522731 (OP)
my advice?

find your 1 rep max as soon as possible on this

its probably high, start with like 200lbs

Yes, this is an effective exercise. I like doing these.

>>76523028
Try adding more weight and treating it like a real exercise. Along the bench to support the extra weight.

>>76523028
But then what? I can do more that I can safely get into that position. Once it's like 1/2 of my body weight its crazy bulky and feels dangerous

>>76522731 (OP)
Yeah these are gigabased. I do them with my arms bent at the elbows to get maximum tension on the lats and teres throughout the movement.
>>76522737
Idk how, every time I do these my back gets such a pump I look noticeably wider after finishing my sets. Are you dropping your ass and letting the weight go as far back as possible to get tension on the muscles involved?
>>76522738
Works your lats and teres in a unique way, gives your triceps a bit of a free pump, helps with shoulder mobility (especially when done one handed), helps get you used to spinal extension under load, literally widens your ribcage by working all the little connecting muscles and tendons along your torso, and it looks cool.

>>76522731 (OP)
should I replace skullcrushers with them?

>>76526469
No, they work different muscles even if they look similar. If you reach your arms straight up, bend at the elbows, then reach down with your hands, you should feel a stretch in your armpit and down into where your lats attach to the sides of your torso - pullovers are basically using weight to work that same range of motion.

>>76526381
I tend to just go for reps on it with a lighter weight, it feels like something might go wrong with heavier weight but I guess I'll try another 10kg

>>76526387
Well I tend to just go for more reps
>>76526759
But I might try 40kg. I weight 80kg

>>76525022
I see what you did there

>>76525022
found him

these feel like shit in my shoulders. I wish I had a pullover machine at my gym

>pullover
no, it's a cardigan but thanks for noticing

>>76523354
Do you recommend lying on the bench normally or performing it like in OPs pic related? If seen both variations but just lying down normally seems… lazy.

you can quite easily do this exercise at home with a band btw. the advantage of a band should be rather obvious. you can go as heavy as possible cause bands way nothing. you can do it from any position laying/kneeling/standing because gravity is not a factor. you can vary grip width easily. doesn't require a bench or other equipment just a band. bands are truly goated for all accessory work.

>>76522731 (OP)
This is probably the only exercise where I saw someone go to snap city with both shoulder irl

>>76528826
For me it's medicine ball on top of a box, straight armed with a bar. Inhale through a stretch. Start light or snap city

>>76528877
It definitely puts the shoulders in a compromising position so you should be careful. I've always done them with relatively light weights and never had an issue. I've progressively overloaded, even, but with this one you should be more conservative

>>76528983
I think he just overextended too much or something. He wasn't struggling to do a single rep, it looked like he was going for high volume.

>>76522731 (OP)
I never know if I should do these on chest days or back days.

>>76522731 (OP)
My trainer said only cucks do these.

>>76528997
Use them instead of lat pulldowns or pullups and you will have some fucking DOMS my dude

>>76522990
I've heard that approximately 1/4 to 1/3rd of your body weight is a good place to start

>>76522731 (OP)
I injured my foot, this might be a good exercise in the meantime.

>>76529497
Only cucks have trainers

>>76522731 (OP)
>does nothing that you want it to do
>fixes nothing
>>76522737
checks out
>>76522738
nothing
>>76522990
doesn't matter how much weight you use
it is an useless exercise
>>76523023
doesn't matter how you do it, it is a trash exercise for all muscles involved
>>76523376
just do cable pullovers if you're set on doing pullovers
>>76528826
makes no difference
>>76528856
too little resistance where it matters
>>76528997
don't do them at all
>>76531455
only cucks do trash exercises

>>76531579
>pic
Good thing its not really a lat exercise

>>76531579
faggot screech

>>76531579
Pullover is to squeeze your chest

>>76528997
>his back and chest day aren't combined

>>76522990
Its called skull crushers for a reason

>>76531579
>too little resistance where it matters
you can increase the resistance more at the beginning if you want not that what you're saying matters anyway if you're coming to 4chan for fit advice band pullovers already grossly exceed expectations what you're describing would be advice for a top tier bodybuilder trying to minmax the final .0000000001% of their physique ie worthless advice

>>76522990
its more of a therapeutic workout. Good for muscle activation while in a nice stretched position.

Also there are 2 ways to do it. I do it more lat-focused while laying on the bench the normal way.

And I prefer to do it with a cable or band so theres constant tension

See:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR47sxwYFi4

>>76522731 (OP)
Pullovers are utterly useless for hypertrophy.
Just fucking press/flyes and do pullups/pulldowns you absolute nerds.

These
>bang for your buck
meme exercises are almost always AIDS and you will see far greater long-term gains actually isolating the muscle you want to grow.

There is no long-term progression with this - do you really think you're going to be doing this with a 110lb dumbbell in years to come?

>>76526469
>replacing a time-tested tricep builder with a meme exercise that doesnt even isolate the triceps

how fucking new are some of you?

>>76528997
am i the only one who has a bit of a religion to do back + bicep & forearms the day before chest/tri's ?

basically

> Wednesday dedicated to Odin, the father of wisdom
Back + biceps & forerams
> Thursday dedicated to Thor, the incarnation of strength
Chest + triceps (+ complement >>76522731 (OP) ) to stretch out any feeling of blocky'ness from a deep squeeze with db pullover)
generally, feeling extra cushion in back + lats for push after a day of pull from previous back day?

> yes, autism

>>76522731 (OP)
Instantly dislocated my stupid weak shoulder

>>76534671
Stfu you fucking cuck you have no idea what you’re talking about.

>>76534877
>t. guy that does meme exercises with 20lb dumbbell

>>76534671
Anomalous, I do 120 lbs for ten reps, I've done 100 lbs for 30 before

>>76534860
try slingshot

Tried these before but they just feel weird. Probably because of my autistic right shoulder.