Thread 76523175

>Who is /fat/ for?
For dieting ducks working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.
Join our Fatty Contest: https://www.fattycontest.com/

>What do I do first?
1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/
2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy
3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/
Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.
4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php
5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros), LoseIt (great for both), or Waistline (FOSS).

>Now what?
Count calories, all of them.
Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.
Buy scales, be accurate.
Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.
Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per pound of goal lean body mass.
Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.
Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and lose fat much quicker. Not lifting results in the body eating away muscle AND fat.
Drink more water.
Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html

>DON'T
Eat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.
Eat processed foods.
Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, Starbucks).
Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks.
"Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.

>Other resources:
Loose skin, gynecomastia & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/

Previous threads: >>76517532 >>76517533

Why is it dieting ducks every time?

Why are you all content with pedophiles running this general? It suggests that your obesity really is an outward symptom of an inner spiritual perversion.

>>76523187
Because I'm not clever like the nunfag who could rhyme every thread.

>>76523198
No one even reads that rhyming shit. Thank you for the thread, anon.

so hungry...

>>76523175 (OP)
I’m doing it

>>76523188
I post nuns and you cry, I don't post nuns and others cry and/or call me the zoomie. I can't win. I just want a new thread when the previous one hits bump limit, and I'm not waiting for the other nunfag as he seemingly disappeared. I really don't care what is in the OP and I don't know why you guys treat it like a competition. I even tried to make some original OPs by combining the progress pictures people were posting with some nuns/ducks to try to make everyone happy. That didn't work either and wasn't really sustainable as people don't post progress pictures often enough to keep the OP supplied with them.

The nuns are at least easy and give the threads variety since I can just grab one of the latest ones and know its not a recent repeat and there are like 1000+ pictures in the back catalogue I can pull from, meanwhile I've only got like 10 fat wojacks total, unless you want to draw up some new ones it'd make the threads very samey after like a week. I'm content to know no matter what I post as the OP someone will complain.

>>76523297
Ignore the schizos. You're doing God's work, anon.

>>76523297
>you
>you guys
1-3 faggots complaining about the op are not the whole of /fat/

My chinese drugs are here, its time to test this

>>76523175 (OP)
What is the lore here

Why is it that every time I plateau, it seems to happen on an exact kilogram number and hover around it for a while? It's never say, 97,5kg, it's exactly 97 and then again at 95, 92 etc.
Psychological maybe?

>>76523297
post nuns or anime girls with food

>>76523241
iktf

Broke out of my plateau :) Down 2.4lbs overnight.

>>76522895
down 47. Nobody has said shit. Except for doctors, they ask me if I am trying to lose weight.

>>76523297
>I'm content to know no matter what I post as the OP someone will complain.

Not zoomie behavior. OP confirmed for decent person.

>>76523319
observation bias

How much do you spend on food per week?

There was a comment a few threads back about how dieting has been great for the wallet, so I decided to check. In the past month ive spent $300 on grocery and $25 on reataurant/takeout. Its hard to estimate how much im really spending per week bc $200 of that were bulk costco purchases that will last me awhile.

At my worst I was spending 500/mo on booze alone and probably at least 600 on takeout. Its painful to look back and think of all the money I wasted

>making gains in the gym
>making gains at work
>making gains in the kitchen (I suppose those are technically losses, not gains)
>personality gains are nowhere to be seen
I'm so tired of this shit. Sure, losing weight and getting more fit is pretty important by itself, but I feel like staying a miserable and lonely fuck by the end of it kind of undermines the whole point.

>>76523394
Are you doing anything to further your personality?

>>76523394
>still unemployed
>still friendless
>have PTSD
>have panic attacks during workouts
>have panic attacks after workouts
>they get worse as I get more fit
>two nights ago I kept saying "please don't kill me" for 15 minutes as I went to bed. I was talking to myself.

stop being a bitch and count the good things in your life.

>>76523380
$150~$200/w
Really depends on chicken breast prices, those make up the bulk of my spending. If there is sale (usually Buy 1, Get 1) I stock up and buy several weeks worth at once and freeze it, saving a ton on food in the long run, but most of the time I feel like I'm overspending since the only grocery store in my area kinda has a monopoly. If I can't get it on amazon I have to pay their exorbitant prices or drive 20 miles to the nearest walmart.

Also walmart has like the worst produce and meat, their shit is always old and slimey for some reason and doesn't last more than a day or two. Walmart is disgusting.

>>76523380
>£20¬30/week for mozarella, vegies, fruits, milk, eggs
>£20¬30/week for cantine meals
>£100/month for supplements
>£260¬340/month total for everything

>>76523414
Yeah man. I refuse to buy any meat at Walmart. I stick to Costco and occasionally go to a butcher for something nice as a treat. I know people complain about costco chicken breast, but I dont mind it and its always 2.99/lb


Recently I caught a costco sale on bone in skin on chicken thighs. 10 lbs for $16.

>>76523417
Good point on the supplement cost. I didnt include those. What are you taking thats so expensive?

>>76523409
Kind of? But it's all a lot more complex and vague than basic nutrition and beginner workouts and I feel like I'm going nowhere.
>>76523412
>um actually you don't have it that bad
Look, whatever you're going through really does seem to suck a lot more and I'm sorry about that, but losing a finger still hurts even though losing an arm is much worse.

>ate 100 grams of oats with milk in one sitting
>as of now, commiting atrocious crimes against the toilet
Feels bad but feels good, my guts are getting cleaned up

>>76523175 (OP)
Genuinely, who are these characters and why has /fat/ general adopted them as proto-mascots.

>>76523297
>>76523477
i posted a shitty thread with no title and no nuns and argued with nunfag for a few threads after, he may have killed himself

>>76523483
Still have no clue WHO these characters are. And I don’t think 90% of this board let alone those who check these generals do. I’m simply asking for these things to be identifies

>>76523477
>Genuinely, who are these characters
They're "little nuns" by Diva, some twitter artists daily art thing, features little nuns and ducks doing things, and a hidden where's waldo-esque chicken for you to find. (In he OP he's hiding in the door frame under the keep out tape.)
https://donmai.moe/posts?tags=little_nuns_(diva)
>and why has /fat/ general adopted them as proto-mascots.
The second ever /fat/ general featured them as the OP and they've been posted regularly since then. So whatever prompted it happened before I started visiting these threads. I've only been here since last year. Its a tradition at this point.
https://desuarchive.org/fit/thread/64971956/

>>76523546
No one cares

>>76523338
Not reading your copypasta about how it's so based and trad that you want to rape cartoon kids or whatever.

down from 258 to 240 boys. And still progressing on my lifts.

I weirdly feel fatter now than I did when I started. oh well

>>76523380
about 200 dollars but I also have toiletries in that. I am always buying a tube of tooth paste or soap or some shit when I grocery shop. I feel like I eat about as cheaply as it is possible to do while still getting a lot of protein

>>76523551
Cope

>>76523477
the artist makes gooner content. Some retard was requesting to see nuns fuck but made a typo and it was "nuns duck" or something like this. The artist obliged with all these wholesome cutesy pictures instead of the porn the guy really wanted. So it has kind of a funny origin story

>>76523627
Literally none of this is true

>>76510900
I was still wondering about this so I asked AI to settle it and it said somewhere in the .6g~.8g of protein range per lb of LBM is optimal. I'm going to keep eating 1g per lb of LBM anyway though, it says eating more doesn't hurt and its just the benefits to eating more protein start to plateau before 1g/lb, so its not like I'm sabotaging myself by eating 150g/d of protein instead of the "optimal" 120g/d.

>>76523643
really fag? You think I would just make that up?

>>76523676
Yes, I do.

>>76523676
Think? I know you made all that up.

>>76523477
The nuns represent our self control and commitment to better ourselves, the ducks represent our fatty brain which just want to eat and get fat. The eternal struggle for all fatties.

>>76523380
Anywhere between $55-80 (converted from euros), this includes toiletries and such
>Its painful to look back and think of all the money I wasted
If it's any consolation, you would just have found something else to waste the money on.

>>76523713
Damn, what's your protein source? I have no idea how you can get by on so little.

>>76523676
>>76523679
lol I really didn't make it up I read it a long time ago. Its possible the poster who I read it from made it up but I am pretty sure its true

>>76523380
>How much do you spend on food per week?
like nothing now. i'm eating food i bought a month ago and im not done yet. 25$ a month maybe?

>>76523729
>I was only pretending to be retarded

Another day, another mualle.
1.2 kgs of food, 600 kcals, 45g of protein. Would have been easy to add 2 tbsp of collagen for another 15-20g of protein if you'd want that.
Truly the slop of the Gods.

>>76523722
Little of what I'm gonna say here will be applicable to anyone else most likely, I'm a manlet and alternate between OMAD and fasting, plus I don't really obsess over exact protein counts.
For protons I mostly eat magerquark/low fat cottage cheese, as well as pasta dishes incorporating ground meats or tofu to not go insane
Two 500g tubs of magerquark cost 2.78€ and contain 121g of protein at 700 kcal, in the past I lost ~15 kg eating just that every day.

>>76523570
>dat fat redistribution phase. Keep at it. It will get worse. Stay strong.

>>76523627
>op complaining there isn't enough content
>sexual ducks are wanted by one person on the internet
>my video card is now going wrrrrrrrr
>/fit/ is a blue board
>make post on /fat/ to frustrate horny anons.
>Only 6.4 pounds from my intermediate goal weight
>things are going well

>>76523735
I have a bunch of the old anon food. I should get rid of it. It doesn't temp me, just figure a food bank or something might like it.

>>76523380
Went into my app to check, I got to the same store, so that's all my purchases for food, cleaning supplies, toiletries and co.
Total since beginning of the month: 164.65€
That's 8.66€/day. Realistically I have food for another 4 days in the fridge, so let's say 7.50-8€.
Actually a lot better than expected, ngl.
My biggest cost is definitely the protein, then fresh produce.

>>76523762
>collagen
>another 15-20g of protein
Collagen is a genuine trash protein if you're chasing numbers, it contains no tryptophan so it is 100% incomplete

>>76523827
I'm not eating it for gainz, but for skin health. Got a big ass container that was insanely cheap that I have to get through kek.

>>76523800
>It doesn't temp me
You're strong brother, stronger than me. I had to throw all that shit out, my pantry was full of fatty anon's snacks and I was sneaking a nibble here and there at distressingly and increasing regularity.

>>76523794
Ahh, makes sense then, protein is easily my biggest expense, if I wasn't committed to hitting my 150g of protein a day target I could probably cut my weekly bill in half.

>>76523827
So long as most of your protein is coming from complete sources I wouldn't really worry too much. Looks like he's got meat and dairy in there, he's probably fine even if some of his protein is incomplete.

>Drink a 300 cal protein shake
>32g of protein
>fills me up for an hour
>hungry again right after
why

>>76523866
Congrats, you got played. Shakes are for bulking.

>>76523866
Because it's liquid, just like sugary drinks don't make you full.

>>76523477
its called Avatarfagging, and it shouldnt be encouraged

We're all gonna make it bros

>>76523827
Technically correct but calling it trash ignores its purpose
Collagen provides unique amino acids (glycine, proline) that are essential building blocks for tendons, ligaments, skin, and joints
You can easily "complete" it by eating other protein sources throughout the day anyways
It's a targeted supplement for connective tissue, not a replacement for meat, whey or other complete proteins

>>76523845
>if I wasn't committed to hitting my 150g of protein a day target I could probably cut my weekly bill in half.
Yeah it's rough how expensive protein in general is, and unless you buy something like so y or pea protein powder the powdered ones are not much cheaper than meat and dairy

>>76523866
add psyllium and/or oats if you want to feel full longer

>>76523175 (OP)
Hahaha enjoy your "willpower", fatties. I'll be waiting on the other side!

>>76523175 (OP)
Former fat guy here, good to see you all contributing and showing up to the thread. Friendly reminder that if you're in this thread, you're already leagues above and in front of the masses who are simply complacent in their mediocrity. Whether you have an unhealthy relationship with food, have gained weight due to illness, or being on medication, or whatever the case is, you have a good head on your shoulders. And I wish you the best in your endeavors. Good luck, Godspeed, you're going to make it.

>>76524038
at least i can be proud of my gains and apply the skills i've learned in the cut to maintain my goal weight and be disciplined in the gym rather than becoming dependent on a pharmacologic intervention from which i will rebound after discontinuation, which teaches me nothing about good nutrition, and which has no crossover to willpower in the gym so i end up skinnyfat as well.

>>76524026
>add psyllium
That stuff tastes so bad, how do you mask the flavor? It seems to jump out of anything I try to cover it with.

>>76523794
God i wish i could find quark in italy, i have no idea of how to reach my daily protein intake

>>76524080
i don't, i just drink it. you can also dry scoop it before drinking your shake (perhaps not the best idea as it can be breathed in but i've done it before). alternatively, just go oats only.

>>76524103
On a budget*

>35
>Finally getting not fat
>Just enrolled in online school so i can get a degree and decent job one day
I finally feel like i'm starting to make it........

>>76524128
post body

>>76524128
good job

>>76524128
You're seriously going to retrain at 35? That's crazy man
I'm 35 as well, don't really know what I want to do
Office job fucking sucks dick man, too much sitting not enough movement

>>76524148
Yeah man, you can either grind to the grave or get educated and try to make it. I'm going to atleast try.

>>76524026
>psyllium
jeet seed handled and packaged by poo-smeared subhuman hands, polluted with the whole elemental table and cut with lead powder if you're unlucky

>>76524152
So what are you studying?

>>76524148
I quit my job at 46 to get my masters. It fucked me completely, would do again. You gotta struggle against that mediocrity or you will become part of it.

>>76524158
Electrical Engineering. doing some studying on my own before starting the course has made me realise i remember almost nothing from school. This shit is scary.

>>76524156
i live in the eu, i only receive healthy product

>>76524222
>he is unaware

>>76524222
This post has been factchecked by real appointed officials: TRUE

>>76524026
>you need this weird shit that I can't pronounce bro

>>76524103
>i have no idea of how to reach my daily protein intake
chicken?

I binged really hard this weekend. Got on the scale this morning and it said I gained 6lbs lol. Almost comical. I know some of it’s water but still. What do you guys recommend for me to get back on track

>>76523380
£30 per week on Mounjaro
£10 on food.

>>76524071
You can do that on Ozempic too.

>>76523380
This month I'm at $175 dollarydoos for groceries and like $95 eating out. Not too bad but need to eat out less.
>At my worst I was spending 500/mo on booze alone and probably at least 600 on takeout. Its painful to look back and think of all the money I wasted
iktf, i had decent savings at one point and pissed it all away on booze and fast food when i was out of work. I don't even want to go through the app and check because i know the number would be so high.
9 months sobre now.

I overate for lunch but luckily it wasn't a binge.
I think if i eat under 200 cal for dinner i can stay on track with my diet.

>>76524103
dont italians eat alot of fish?

>>76524103
nigga yall got mounds of dairy and meat in your country, what's the issue?

>>76524268
just stick to the same plan as before. worst case, you added a few days to your end date. the water will come off soon. just don't do it again, ideally.

>>76524163
actually really inspiring. i'm 26 with no undergrad degree (wasn't a product of laziness, instead a product of very unfortunate circumstance), and i'm becoming a turbodoomer about it but i guess there's time to get an undergrad degree and ideally a graduate degree. i still haven't lost my capacity or desire for learning, nor my dreams, i just had to defer them and i'm bitter about the lost years.

>>76523436
>Nordic Fish Pills 180 pills / £70 = £23/month
>Magnesium 120 pills / £8 = £4/month
>Zinc 100 pills / £9 = £3/month
>Olimp Vitamins 60 pills / £15 = £15/month
>Vitamin D3 + K2 365 pills / £10 = £0.8/month
>Vital Proteins Collagen Peptides Cocoa 11 servings / £26 = £78/month
>BCAA 36 servings / £18 = £18/month
Will probably drop the Collagen stuff once I'm done with my two jars if it wont do shit for my skin.

>>76524481
Eh it's kind of exaggerated in media, and I don't even live in a coastal town so I have it maybe once every two weeks
>>76524509
The cost of those items keeps rising and I can't even buy them in bulk since we have no costco or anything similar

>>76524550
fair enough. you don't have a lidl or a similar store in your town? what about yogurt? whey protein? eggs/egg whites? chicken legs/ground chicken? plant protein such as lentils and beans? tofu? canned fish? skim milk?

>>76524545
It'll surely make your nails and hair look healthier, and it really helps your joints at least. There is really strong evidence of it improving skin, specifically making the collagen network more dense and youthful looking, so itll help with stretch marks, haven't seen anything about it improving elasticity though, which is what people want around here due to the ever present fear of loose skin.

>>76524545
you're paying out the fucking ass for some of those

>>76524071
95% of people regain the weight within 5 years(>"buh buh buh buh buh they just didnt learn teh skillz and nutrition like me im different!!!") and with your mentality of thinking you're completely infallible because you do things the RIGHT and MORAL way you're not even going to make it to your goal weight before you regain whatever weight you may have lost and then some.
Me? I've gone from 35 bmi to 20.2 bmi without even counting calories or actively restricting. Sneed fat ass.

>>76524610
Yet you still have the mind of a fat nigger.

>>76524580
I usually just eat chicken breasts as my source of protein, i buy some cottage cheese sometimes but that's it, thank you for the other recommendations

>>76524610
of course i'm not infallible, and of course there are benefits to either side, but there is no reason to be smug about taking glp-1 agonists.

it's fine to take medicine if you need it, in which case it is the best option, but there are several demonstrable benefits to not doing so provided you don't. it's really that simple. that's best practice in drug prescription as well.

>>76524615
You have the mind of a narcissist and the body of a fat nigger

>>76524642
>Huehue no u!
Peon. You will never make it, not even if you reached 10% BF and 220lbs. You have a peon mindset.

>>76524628
no problem. cottage cheese is a good option but it's so easy to get tired of. hope you manage to diversify the protein intake, and if you get tired of a lot of prep, whey protein is a really good way to make sure you hit your goal. also, learning more recipes/flavor profiles (for example, onions sauce and ginger, or thai curry paste, or a million other things) helps you keep from getting bored of the same protein. not that you asked, but maybe it helps

>eat a bowl of store bought fried rice with egg, pork, and some lean shredded beef I added myself
>it's about 600 calories
>that's like 5 tablespoons of olive oil
So is this why everyone eats high carb low fat? Just because of the sheer volume?

>>76524581
Good enough for me. I guess it's not a total waste of money after all.
>>76524585
It's really the collagen who is pricey. Everything else seems reasonably priced to me.

>>76524680
>high carb low fat
>fried rice, pork, egg, shredded beef
I think you have vastly under calculated the calories friend, that's certainly not HCLF

>>76524697
those omega 3 pills are overpriced beyond belief
I paid 18.52€ for 240 pills (2000mg fish oil that includes 1100mg omega3 (660mg EPA 440mg DHA))

>>76524708
well the package for the fried rice said the entire thing is 710 calories, 130g carbs, and 24g protein. The shredded beef I added was bottom round, basically the leanest cut of beef you can get. I split it into two bowls. I think the 600 calories and low fat is accurate

>>76524759
Missed the two bowls part so the cals may be accurate, but I wouldn't describe fried rice as HCLF, what was the fat content?

>>76524610
shut the fuck up and kys retarded shill

>>76524759
>bottom round, basically the leanest cut of beef you can get
isn't that top round?

>>76524610
Mounjaro hasn't even been on the market for 5 years...

>>76524709
where the hell did you get this? romania?

>>76524849
I just picked the cheapest, highest rated ones on amazon.de

>>76524680
Yes, higher carb is better than high fat. You will never see someone with a good looking body not on roids who eats le high fat diet.
>Muh hormones!

You only need like 20g of fat a day. Most people get 200 plus. You see a lot of cope about how you NEED fat like olive oil, fatty meat, avocado, peanut butter etc. it's all just fatty lies. If you eat high protein high fiber high carb you will actually be full. Try to get fat on potatoes, chicken tenderloins and veggies, it's basically impossible

My neighbor just told me "Don't lose any more weight, you look perfect the way you are now."

I'm still fat.

>>76524863
is he fat? don't listen to him

>>76524851
what a totally normal, organic post

>>76524863
maybe shes flirting, ask her out anon

>>76524866
My bad anon, better add more cream cheese, wouldn't want you to have low testosterone lmao

>>76524865
>>76524868
Skinny older guy.

>>76524874
are you okay?

>>76524874
>wouldn't want you to have low testosterone lmao
Unfortunately that's the fate of all fatties, no matter the diet.

>>76524850
ahh. i would do that but i live in finland so shipping will be 5 gorillion euros

what if I just keep eating like a fat bitch, but start lifting weights for like 3 hours every day?

>>76524938
You will end up a powershitter.

>>76524863
Honestly almost every single last successful guy in this thread loses too much weight IMO. If you are 300 pounds you should probably aim for 210 not 160 or whatever. Just recomp and build muscle.

>want to go for a walk
>clouds are dark and there's chance of storm rain tonight
>its after 5PM and don't want to drive at this ungodly hour

Even if I do drive, idk if I want to go on heavy traffic roads just to get on the treadmill or elliptical for an hour

>>76524975
do you not have an umbrella?

>>76525012
Last time I had an umbrella was middle school

>>76524938
There's a misconception that fat and muscle are two ends of an axis.
It's incorrect.
You can be fat and muscle. You can be fat without muscle. And you can have neither.

>>76525020
should've spent some of the cookie money on an umbrella then

so hungry...

>>76524975
Buy a jump rope for 4 dollars.

i am fucking sick
i cannot stop eating i don't know how to cope with life without eating and drinking copious amounts of food and alkohol
i had a good 8week run, lost like 10kg and now i probably gained it all back because i am sick and can't stop stuffing myself with food

>>76524863
are you a woman? if yes that guy wants you in his bed

I've become addicted to watermelon...
There are worse things to be addicted to I guess.

>>76525100
Mounjaro.
Seriously, it also removes alcohol cravings.

>>76525100
Same bro same
I've tried every meme diet on the planet, everything
The hunger just never stops, I can fight for a few weeks but then its just too much and it all falls apart

>>76525100
to break an addiction you need a competing interest. do you have anything else in your life you like doing

>>76525100
Go for walks shirtless in the busiest part of your town. Should provide some motivation

>>76525100
try locking your food in a cabinet and you can only open it during meal times.

Day 2 back on the wagon after almost a year. This morning was really bad but I'm feeling ok now. Life and future prospects are more grim than ever but for some reason I feel like I might make it this time. Hope you guys are reaching your goals, thanks for always being here to pick me back up.

light give me strength

>>76525259
Keep getting back up and focus on the things that have worked for you. Wagmi fatfren

>start mixing lentils into ny regular sloppa
>farding non-stop for 3 days now
When does it end bros, I assume its the additional fiber and my gut needs to adjust but it can't come fast enough

>>76524952
starting to realize this is the way
skinny and jacked will never happen, strong fat/dad bod is the only option

>>76525351
me personally, i'm gonna cut down to like 15% and see how shit my loose skin looks and then bulk until i hit the sweet spot

>>76525350
give it until next week, it should chill out

>>76525365
I hope you're right man, even my dog doesn't wanna hang out with me for too long right now. On the upside the satiety is through the roof since I started eating them.

>>76525351
I started at 260 and I’m going down to 200. I know my limits. I start “seeing red” with hunger if I get under 200 and my face takes on that gaunt quality that ages you. I dieted down to 170 at one point and looked sick.

Fight on!

>>76524952
I was 350+ I'm trying to stay around 180 right now, been bouncing between 180ish for almost a month now. I got plenty of fat still on me though, and a ton of loose skin.

Caffeine helps you lose weight because it’s technically an upper, but if it’s some sugar filled crap does that cancel out it’s benefits?

>>76525478
Is that a serious question?

>>76525171
Nta, but I’d be way to embarrassed to do that shirtless.

>>76525478
i hate to be mean to people just asking questions but jesus christ man you make it difficult

>>76525483
what's the worst that could happen?
it's better to be unrepentantly fat in public than a coward who's scared to leave his house

>>76525478
Good question, anon! No, your body totally shuts down and ignores calories that come from caffeinated beverages. That's why everyone recommends delicious sugary sodas to people on diets. Yum!

>>76525435
That’s insane to me. You think you lost a lot of muscle or did you never have much?

Couldn't make it to the gym so I took creatine and l-arginine before cleaning my apartment and did it like a workout. 2 hours of hell but felt good in the end

instead of a dinner sandwich i'm eating the meat with some curry sauce for flavor. saving myself maybe 150 cal by leaving off the bread so hopefully it compensates for the big lunch. I think i'm still at around 1100 cal total for today so its not too bad.

>>76525588
if you really wanted to go to the gym you would have find time
and creatine has like zero effect for preworkout i think you mean caffeine

>>76525478
If caffeine makes you not feel hungry to eat a 300kcal snack versus a 150kcal energy drink, then yeah, it's a good trade.
But, preferable to do neither.

>>76525595
I just take creatine daily because it feels good, and I take it whenever I drink my protein goyshake. Just so happened to be at the time before I started my cleaning

>>76525588
I guess that’s good?

I’m locked in.

4 lbs of vacation weight was bloat from alcohol and catching a cold at the end, nice that that came off
Still up to 197 from 193 before leaving though but at least not over 200 again
4 lbs gained is still a shit ton for two weeks, that was 1000 calories over TDEE per day for my fat ass

Fatty Contest
FiggerNaggot
211.1lbs
6'5"

>>76525654
Suspect you will find it come off really quickly.
Running at a surplus after being in a deficit for a long time causes your muscles to build up their store of glycogen again, which in turn causes more water retention as well.
From memory it's like every 1g of glycogen is 3 or 4g of water held.

>>76523866
What the fuck kind of protein shake is 300cal with only 32g of protein
You didn't happen to drink a MASS GAINER PERMABULK CARBONATOR 3000, did you

>>76525732
>go to my kitchen
>pour a glass of whole milk
>dump a scoop of protein powder into it
>shake

why are ppl on here so mean
we are all in the same boat

>>76525762
We dont deserve to feel good until we are lean

>>76525744
Get isolate and drink it with water. 170cal, 42g of protein and doesn't make me want to throw up. It won't reduce the hunger at all but at least you can fill up on protein

>>76525762
Because people are retarded

>>76525581
I never had much, only started lifting when I was losing weight.

>>76525782
>drink less milk
no thanks im white

>>76523175 (OP)
What the fuck is this image and characters and why do I immediately like it all so much

>>76523564
kekked

>>76524064
Based.

Just rawdogged another glass of whole milk, AMA
>calories
no idea
>deficit
don't care

>>76525837
have fun getting diarrhea

>>76525842
>randomly exposes himself as a brownoid

Really struggling with brain fog and fatigue while trying to lose weight. Feel like it has to get better eventually, thing its mostly trying to detox from sugar.

>>76525848
i am most likely whiter than you

>>76525872
this proves nothing, u can be lactose intolerant and white, i am not brown

Hit BMI 24.99 this morning
178cm 79.2kg
Started year at 95.5kg
Thrilled ;v;
No calories counted, just doing OMAD and trying to hit 100g of protein not including 1 scoop whey

>>76525634
Same tbqhwy.

>>76525849
Usually blood sugar.
Lotta people start a diet and just immediately cut out all sugar they used to have and so their blood sugar crashes and they feel like shit.
Either gotta tank it and your body will get used to the new sugar level in time, or cut back but not out on sugars.

Fruit juices, smoothies that kind of stuff, rather than just sugar.

>>76523175 (OP)
My buddy is losing weight but grinding muh gears saying his watch told him he burned 1500, 2500, oh wow today he burned 4500cal! I told him not to trust that shit because its well documented to overshoot, it doesnt know his body fat percentage or how hard hes actually trying, and its just not reasonable he burned over a full day just by "keeping his heart rate above 140BPM" for a few hours. Because the watch said so. Hes not eating calories back, at least to my knowledge, but idk im an autistic and it just grinds me. I like seeing the alleged number of calories burned for steps sure, but Samsung health often says i walked a 9min mile i know its bullshitting me.

>>76523312
I cringed

>>76523315
child nun feels unseen

>>76523312
What is this, and where did you get it?

>>76523412
You need to start really processing and get some grounding techniques. Use a 5 sense grounding technique, something that comforts you and reminds you where you are. It can be a background noise, a smell, a taste, a tactile sensation.

>>76526036
>5 sense grounding technique
please keep you tiktok shit away from me.

>>76524581
Where exactly is the research saying what form of collagen is best? What method of use is best? What dose is best and how long until you actually see results? And what kind of results you can actually expect? I guess it's been 6 months since I looked into it, but the last I saw as they can only tell you through actual scientific research that it would probably be good for you. But there's really not much research and just a bunch of claims from COMPANIES and shills to sell more collagen supplements. Like the bovine milk duct pills to make boobies grow lmao
>>76524697
It's pricey because women are into it right now. Go to the women's section of skincare or supplements and you'll see everything saying that it has collagen in it or can somehow help you boost your natural collagen production. You'll find collagen pills, liquid collagen supplements, collagen serums for your face, collagen lotion for your body. But they don't actually explain why their product works and other peoples don't, or how they know for sure that their product works or why their method of use (liquid drops, capsule pills, concentrated serums) actually work the best and what kind of actual real results you can expect. Women love snake oil, and this just seems like another snake oil pill. If you use it, then You will totally feels so much better and everything will be perfect in your body, like every other female health scam.

>>76525351
I don’t think so. Fat improves no face, and it doesn’t take a super high body fat percentage for it to start appearing on your face. I think the correct path is 1. Build enough muscle/strength for otter mode. 2. Cut down to otter mode. 3. Maintain/lean bulk indefinitely.

You keep the face, you keep the abs, you have a chest, and everything slowly improves from there.

>>76525351
>I'm just different bro
>I just cant be a healthy body fat bro
>I really tried but like its just not for me bro
>I'll still be fine as long as I'm kinda strong bro
>its not like excess body fat is totally within my control and harmful bro
>>76525377
You fucking better be like 6'5"
>yeah man I just go craaaazy when I'm only overweight
>when I'm just overweight I get all malnourished looking in the face man

>>76525744
Or any zero calorie liquid like coffee or tea. Or just skim milk.

>finish lawn work at 7:30
>eat dinner
>cook and clean in the kitchen from 8:00-9:00
>garmin watch says I burned 200 active calories in that time
I know these things aren’t to be completely trusted in any case, and it’s hard to prove either way, but is there any way that’s close to true? My heart rate did stay from 100-110 the whole time but it seems weird to me I could burn that many extra just doing normal kitchen stuff.

>>76525803
And obese.
>>76526048
So just because it's a therapeutic technique you think it's TikTok, made up bullshit. If you want to be miserable, just say you want to be miserable. If you want to get better and if you want it to stop, then you should be willing to try anything. Using grounding techniques that rely on senses is something that's been used for a pretty long time and does reliably work for most people. It doesn't work for everyone sure, but most people have luck having something comforting to them that they can keep with them discreetly and use anytime to comfort and soothe themselves and remind them where they are and that they are safe and not reliving the traumatic experience. It's not pulling out a security blankey, or telling everyone that you're triggered. It's discreetly putting a peppermint in your mouth because a sensation reminds you of where you are, and you find it comforting. It's having a tiny piece of cloth that you can hide up your sleeve that you sprayed with some kind of scent that makes you feel comforted or reminds you of something happy. It can be anything as long as it's not harmful like huffing gasoline. You can keep in a wireless earbud playing sounds that you like that you find comforting and remind you where you are and that you're safe. It can just be a texture that you like that you keep in your pocket like velcro or a silk cloth or a swatch of microfiber towel. It's not supposed to be some big piece of fabric that you pull out and snuggle, just rub your fingers against. Anything more is just for home. It's not meant to fix everything. It's just meant to calm you down in the moment. You've still gotta actually process it or you can just be miserable because the bros say that acknowledging any feelings that you have is gay or a pseudo nonsense. It worked for me. At night I play audio of a voice I find comforting reading a very long book. I used to keep a small cloth with me that smelled like eucalyptus.

>>76526105
no, I surmised you have no professional training since you:
- assumed that I was asking for help or just decided that you needed to give unsolicited help
- thought you had any fucking idea on the specifics of my condition and assumed that you were equipped to deal with it
- made assumptions on my thought process, in that I wanted to be miserable, I am not trying everything and most importantly that I already don't have a massive set of things that work for me.

I am not familiar with the garbage vendors if it wasn't TikTok then insert you choice of garbage social media. Super glad humping fabric at night is working for you kiddo in that I want everyone to have peace, but your shit is not my shit.

>>76526125
Alright old timer. Sorry, when you post that your life is a living hell and a nightmare that kinda reads as a cry for help.

I'm becoming obsessed with food in a bad way. Weighing myself too much, thinking about it too much.

I need to get less fat, but thinking about it more won't make this several-month journey any quicker, you know?
But, it's also not like I can just stop being aware of it, or I'll go back to being fat.

>>76526162
You dont have to think about food all day
You can buy that freedom

>>76526162
I’m asking chatgpt what my bf% is twice a day now.

>>76526151
I'm going to go to the store to get some tomatoes, bread and cottage cheese for a evening snack cheat. It is going to be glorious. I got some shit, but it isn't a living hell of a nightmare.

It is about succeeding despite the dumpster fire that is life. I hope that other anon got the point.

>>76526078
I am 6'0 but I have way more muscle on my frame than all the fats here. I have no idea how you guys can be so fat without some corresponding muscle. I guess I was really helped by playing football in high school

>>76525351
copin fat

>>76526162
You have to get a life.

Hi /fat/
Am 138lbs and 6'0"
How many pounds do I need to lose to lose my belly fat and have a slim waist again? Thanks

>>76526202
When you make ridiculous claims you're expected to post body

>>76526184
that nigga doesn't know your bf

>>76526211
you are very nearly underweight. you might benefit more from trying to add muscle.

>>76526212
I would argue that it is not a ridiculous claim that some guys that are 6 foot tall and have been lifting weights most of their adult lives look better at 200 pounds than 170. Especially after a large weight loss which would reveal loose skin at the lower weight. In fact I would say its an incredibly reasonable thing to say.

>>76526181
It doesn't help that much, honestly.
I feel I'm still adjusting to it being on the first dose. But, I'm still paranoid about eating too much or not eating enough, or not eating the right thing. Or not exercising enough. Or that I'm wasting my money. Or I'll rebound.

>>76526230
dude ur gonna get like cancer

>>76526230
It takes some weeks to build up
Trust the plan, report results later

>>76526222
It's completely ridiculous. You don't look good at 6 ft 200lbs. Let's see it

>He won't

>>76526181
>>76526230
how the fuck do I get ozempic without prescription?
I absolutely cannot have something like that on my medical records

>>76526242
>absolutely cannot have something like that on my medical records

Genuinely curious as to why not. Are you planning to be an astronaut or something

>>76523175 (OP)
Is it normal for progress to stall while losing weight?
I've been stuck at 160lbs for 2 weeks (I'm 5'9/175cm, male, 20yo, I eat 1200-1500kcals on average for reference). I've lost 15lbs since May, so I don't understand why I'm stalled all of the sudden.
I'm hoping to get down to somewhere in the 130-140lbs range. I'd like a (mostly) flat tummy, but if I start losing my curvature I'll probably call it quits early.
>>76526242
There are a lot of sites that sell semaglutide.
I have a friend who bought some on Simple Peptide, they call their semaglutide "GLP-1SG". I've heard their prices are a ripoff though.

>>76526249
Adult males are 6ft or taller

>>76526236
Well, not very often you see fat cancer patients, is it?

>>76526252
>heightism in a /fat/ thread
cringe faggot crab

>>76526240
My god you are a an absolutely pathetic DYEL. 6 foot tall 200 pounds is peak male performance. Which europoor slum are you from?

>>76526252
Do you really want me to troon that badly anon?

>>76526257
The tall crabs are a problem, they can reach higher.

>>76526257
>cringe faggot crab

>76526260

>I'm 200lbs jacked just trust me, no I can't prove it you just have to believe me HAES

>>76526260
>are a an absolutely

HELLO SARRR

>>76526273
nta but looks like to just be a typo

>>76526273
lol you are the pajeet judging by your disbelief that a man can have muscles. I am sure you have never seen a 6 foot tall 200 pound man in your village ranjesh

>>76526280
And you haven't seen one in the mirror either. Just a fat 5'11 guy

>>76526221
I am also working on that, but I know I need to lose fat as well, so how much do I need to lose?

>>76526245
military
>>76526249
thanks! what are the drawbacks of these drugs? I haven't been paying attention to them

>>76526289
>military
dumbest anon itt award goes to u

>>76526289
>what are the drawbacks of these drugs?
Read the monograph.
Stuff like constipation, diarrhea, and nausea are the usual complaints.
The main drawback is that while they'll make you lose weight faster, you will ultimately have to contend with proper dieting to keep the weight loss they give you, unless you wanna keep paying for and taking it forever. Proper fatasses struggle with this.

>>76526298
Yeah I can say pretty confidently that you are on the shit for life once you take it. I bet when you stop there is "rebound hunger' where you just become a ravenous beast.

Ahhh, the daily poor fag cope that GLPS are somehow bad

>>76526311
Not at all.
I've known people who've had good luck with them and kept the weight off. It doesn't eliminate the need for self-control though.

>>76526312
better to be poor than have to rely on chemicals to maintain a basic calorie deficit

>>76526237
I've had kinda weird results with it so far. According to the scales, I'm down 2lbs in 5 days.
But, that feels too brisk to be all fat loss.

I'm only on my second week, so I guess I need time to settle in with it and find a trend, but, I mean I am losing weight. I think I just need to chill out about speed of things.

>>76526315
>I'm only on my second week
Literally nothing.
Just roll with it.

>>76526313
To be fair, it's also a lot easier to get into good habit when your body is telling you that you need 3500 calories per day or you starve.
But, I think it's important to remember that the vast majority of GLPS patients so far are women.
And women are retarded.

>>76526314
>better to be poor

Said no one ever

>>76526313
>>76526326
Well speaking for myself I will never stop taking the shit. I am on glps for life and I just have to hope the price goes down over time.

>>76526217
It knows it better than I do.

>>76526318
We'll see. I'm just a neurotic kinda guy.

>>76526342
Oh I am too.
Give it time, everything will be alright in the end. :)

>there are actually NIGGERS in my thread who own microwaves or air fryers

I will remove your testicles.

>>76526331
a poor man can make money and no longer be poor
u can’t do shit to reverse whatever those medications will fuck u up with

>>76526349
oh look we got a CHEF in the thread

>>76526351
Question for you, poor retard. Which is worse for your health, being fat as fuck or taking glucagon like peptides?

>>76526351
I have had zero side effects outside a little bit of poop trouble. But that was easy enough to fix with a diet richer in protein and fiber. Which you should be doing anyway.

>>76526349
microwave, air fryer, electric skillet, oven(inside doesnt work, but top burners do)
so my options for these chicken thighs are either pan frying or air frying them
the bagged asparagus is definitely going in the air fryer

>>76526352
this is you

>>76526356
lol how are u still not getting it?
u can lose weight WITHOUT cheating by taking those shitty meds

>>76526349
>thread about weight loss
>bring up NIGGERS
never change

>76526363

Refuses to answer the question because he knows he's wrong

>U can lose weight WITHOUT cheating by taking those shitty meds

I can, you can't. What kind of faggot calls it cheating? Are you keeping a scorecard?

>>76526363
I think everyone should do that. But if you are like 30 and spent your whole fucking life fighting your weight then maybe its time to throw in the towel and take the pharma jew pill

>>76526363
Shut the fuck up nigger. You wouldn't know what cheating is if you walked in on your wife fucking Tyrone (she does)

Guys what's a good routine I can do every 48 hours? Torso and limbs?

Is there anything better than walking for cardio? S tier in almost all aspects

>>76526372
>maybe its time to throw in the towel and take the pharma jew pill
you sound insane
ppl like that need encouragement and support, not to be told to just give up

>>76526380
Maybe rowing. Get a bit of arms going too.

>>76526374
The fuck you mean a routine? Like a lifting routine or cardio routine? Because a lifting routine is pointless to ask about in this thread given working a certain body part doesn't actually remove fat in that area, it just builds muscle there. You can only lose bodyfat equally as you diet and optionally cardio, as long as you're burning more calories than you're gaining.

>>76526382
>Pneumonia, eh?
>Not gonna cheat and take OXYGEN are you?
>You know you can breathe without that shit, right?

>>76526380
Stationary bike. Feel like I can go forever without the knee and shin pains of running.

>>76526388
>>76526402
True, good for arms and legs respectively

>>76526401
not the same

>>76526298
thanks bro

>>76526374
Torso Limbs is the goat split. People hit Arms after chest back and shoulders and wonder why they have tiny arms. If you move them to the beginning of leg days they get hit fresh with the heaviest weights possible.

>>76526404
>>76526402
My problem is motivational, when I run literally cant quit half way because, you know, I have to get home, but on something like a pool, rower, bike, or treadmill I can bitch out any time I want. And that temptation is often strongest for me around the half way point.

>>76526429
Ya i had this idea to combine them. Would super setting them be okay?
>>76526397
Why are you so mad?
>durr hurr what kinda routine
>I mentioned torso and limbs
You're actually retarded kys

>>76526349
My oven is also an airfrier. I love it.

>>76526440
Yeah that's fine, you won't lose any strength super setting biceps+quads or whatever. Get after it bro!

>>76526439
Go on a walk, best of both worlds
It's not difficult, but you also can't just stop because you have to get home

>>76526380
eliptical

I have lost weight but still have a high bodyfat percentage, 24.7%
How do I lower this?
Keep losing weight?
Bulk?
Change my lifting and cardio? What to?

Bulk? I mean wow

>>76526506
Keep losing, lifting and cardio.

>>76526506
It can take months or a year or more for your body to distribute fat more evenly. The way your body burns fat is different to how it puts on fat, and that can lead to your body looking off.
If you're above a healthy BMI, keep losing. Gaining muscle is never a bad idea regardless what size you are, but having more mass will fill you out and look better.

>>76526186
A severed finger does hurt... but its much easier to move on and be grateful you aren't missing an arm.

>>76526523
179cm
77kg last time I checked, the photo was a few weeks ago
so that is healthy BMI but BMI doesn't account for high bf% or muscularity, the US Navy method on calculator.net is what says bf % of 24.7

>>76526074
you're right about face, but chicks don't care about abs all that much
like they like abs, but abs aren't as important to them as they are to gays, for example

>>76526202
Uh huh.. post body

>>76526222
He'd look better at 200 pounds if he spent upwards of 8 years in the gym, serious as murder about it, and still cut down to a decent fat percentage.

tfw had a mini whoosh i guess, i dont understand why it happens

>>76526260
>hes totally more jacked than this

Fatty Contest
Name: Dzonathan Gavert
Weight: 109.4 kg

Overall progress:
https://tinylink.net/1Jdoy

Motivational Song of the Day:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Fn9nlxq1ow

>>76526542
That would be news to me if true.

Fatty Contest
Fatmagic
90.8 kg

166kg to 165.4kg weekly
Does not feel so good on a Wednesday. Had a weekend trip planned and knew there would be extra calories and small drop or no drop at all but still seeing small drop makes the sad noise inside the head comeback hard.

I saved enough calories at the end of the day to have a square of chocolate (70). Question now is do I eat the chocolate or take some extra gains.

>>76526596
If you don't have the chocolate now, will you feel entitled to more chocolate at a later time?

Under BMI 28 this morning. It's happening, slowly but surely.

holy fat fuckophia itt lmao

>>76526598
Probably not but I will be slightly disappointed. And I think that’s enough reason to eat it. I’ve been reading Atomic Habits and rewards are key to keeping habits.
>say you’re going to do the thing
>do the thing
>reward
Without the reward the habit isn’t reinforced. Or at least that’s the story I’m going with. 70 calories is only 2% of a pound of fat so it doesn’t really matter. Plus my watch says I burned 3000 calories today and I’ve only eaten 1370. Even if it’s hundreds of calories off that’s plenty of deficit for one day.

>>76526604
>fuckophia
>Your search did not match any documents
what does this word mean anon

>>76526616
i made it up lol ai could never

I’m thinking of offering to cut grass in my neighborhood for free. That shit is just perfect zone 2 cardio.

>>76526249
Fr tho can someone please tell me whether or not plateauing is something I should expect?

>>76526457
Bench+chins
Dips+shrugs
Lat raises+situps

Front squat+curl
Rdl+reverse curl
Ab wheel+calf raises
I created this. Gonna be like a 3x8-12. Is it gud?

>>76526633
you realize you are in /fat/ right?

>>76526683
You are fat, yes.

day 3 of fast, doing great, wasnt able to find nosalt anywhere

>>76526632
Yes, I've gone from 500 to 360 and Bern on a plateau for weeks despite fasting for one of them

>>76526349
An air fryer is good though.

Heats up frozen chicken like a dream.

Cooks veggies fast.

Just a fast convection oven with a decent fan.

>>76526762
how much have u lost so far?

>50g oatmeal
>110g strawberries
>250ml whole milk
>100g skyr
>40g protein powder
>600cal and 56g protein total
crazy...

>only lost 2lb this week

NGMI :(

>>76526683
So? Why does it matter?

Today's OMAD:
1x Chicken Breast (200g)
2x Eggs
1x Packet of Couscous

Total:
86g Protein
71g Carbohydrates
28g Fat
900 Kcal

It's pretty good, honestly. Could do with some greens, but, I didn't have any.

>OMAD
Just as stupid as being a fastard. TWOmad is the truth and something you can do for life.

We'll need a new thread. Any of the regulars online?

>>76526817
To pick one thing out, ab wheel for a fat guy is a lot different than for a skinny guy. If the person is very overweight they will be dragging their gut on the ground and making the exercise useless. There are other things for moderately overweight people, but it amounts to a bad exercise for the audience. Same logic of why lunges are way harder for fat people.

Most of these exercises have issues for fat people.

>>76523175 (OP)
I feel like I barely ate yesterday and now I’m starving. I hope I can make it through another day without being a glutton.

>>76526823
900cal for the whole day? Are you hobbitmaxxing?

>>76525893
w00t are you me? 177cm down to 83 kg from 97 kg two months ago, doing low-carb-ish OMAD. Also not counting cals religiously, but eyeballing to stay between 1k-1.5kcal and making sure to hit 100g+ protein. Feels great to see the scale drop week by week and sticking to OMAD is much easier than i had thought

>>76526878
Just endurance.

I've put on so much weight again.
I know I can pull qts at like 120kg, but I want to get down to 100 before seeking my forever companion. But then I realise that's like 40kg away and I just give up before even starting.

>>76526850
If anyone doesn't have any objections I'll whip up a thread since nunanon & other baker anons are offline. Will take a minute.

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>>76526991
>>76526991
>>76526991
>>76526991
>>76526991

>>76525478
If that was true, the slimmest country should be the one with the highest coffee consumption. Which in order is Netherlands, Finland, Sweden Norway.

And its not.

>>76527798
>If that was true, the slimmest country should be the one with the highest coffee consumption
That doesn’t follow at all.