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Anonymous No.76528596 >>76528659 >>76529270 >>76529323 >>76529338 >>76529454 >>76529523 >>76529531 >>76529564 >>76531161 >>76531228 >>76533882
should I start jiu jitsu? I wanna be capable of killing someone
Anonymous No.76528638
kys
Anonymous No.76528655
Just buy a gun if you're wanting to be able to kill someone. Could even kill a bjj practictioner too
Anonymous No.76528659 >>76528699 >>76529459 >>76532399
>>76528596 (OP)
bjj is what crossfit was in the 2010s
Anonymous No.76528699 >>76528704
>>76528659
how so?
Anonymous No.76528704 >>76528847 >>76529459
>>76528699
gay fad for faggots
Anonymous No.76528831 >>76528854 >>76531160
Been training BJJ for about four years now. Did striking for ten years prior. Personally, BJJ gave me more confidence being able to defend myself. Being able to tap trial class dudes ten times in five minutes is eye opening in terms of how most people are truly defenseless. If I was 20 again though, I’d just train MMA
Anonymous No.76528847 >>76531456
>>76528704
in terms if martial arts popularity
yes, bjj is at a current level of popularity equivalent to what karate was in the 80s
in terms of sticking around as a martial art?
no, bjj is here to stay for proving it's effectiveness as a martial art.
In terms of self defense you should be doing martial arts for wanting to di martial arts learn this just for self defense is just gonna get you killed. Buy a taser or someshit
Anonymous No.76528854 >>76528872 >>76531154 >>76532033
>>76528831
>playing by these specific rules has shown me that people are completelt defensless under these specific rules
Anonymous No.76528872 >>76528889
>>76528854
You sound insecure
Anonymous No.76528882 >>76528891 >>76528895
it's a fun fit activity with some nice cardio gains, you won't always have a weapon but you will always have your hands. the board constanlty seethes about it, so it must be doing something right. check out the /bjj/ general on /xs/
Anonymous No.76528889 >>76529103 >>76532035
>>76528872
and you sound like a faggot. I train bjj too and know that all it takes is literally being stabbed or shot and boom your done
get your head out of your ass you retard.
Anonymous No.76528891
>>76528882
damn didnt know about the general, ty
Anonymous No.76528895 >>76528902
>>76528882
You guys have the same conversations every thread. It's very boring.
Anonymous No.76528902
>>76528895
no u
Anonymous No.76529103 >>76529582
>>76528889
Who says I walk around unarmed you absolute moron? Idiots like you will ignore the hundreds of videos of people successfully using BJJ or Judo or MMA in a street altercation. No shit, a gun usually wins versus an unarmed opponent, but most people aren’t armed and most street altercations don’t involve weapons. Either way, unarmed versus unarmed and BJJ is a cheat code. Not the only one, but one of the most powerful
Anonymous No.76529270 >>76529305
>>76528596 (OP)
You sure could kill someone with a choke. You'd really only need the youtube video on the rear naked choke.

One day you'll learn that nothing helps you do anything else. If you want to learn BJJ you should go to BJJ class. If you want to kill someone - probably a gun or knife. If you want to be tough (according to you) you should do something that sounds tough (according to you)
Anonymous No.76529305 >>76529366
>>76529270
okay but if I wanna strangle some cunt to death bjj is it? hell yeah
Anonymous No.76529320 >>76529363
My best friend does blowjob jitsu. hes a purple belt. I boxed since i was a kid. We play fight sometimes and its hilarious how fast his blowjob jitsu falls apart when i throw some tappy jabs at his face. Shits for fags fr
Anonymous No.76529323
>>76528596 (OP)
It's a fun social thing for me to do since I'm home gym for lifting. I'm in my late 30s so it's fun to style on fat zoomers who just started. Plus it gives my lifting and cardio an outlet.
Anonymous No.76529338 >>76529555
>>76528596 (OP)
The main struggle for jiu-jistu is the same for boxing, mma ect.
Finding a gym run by someone actually competent, not psychotic power tripping asshole, or a creep running a weird cult is very difficult. But if you can find a nice place yeah sure, its really fun. Just don't put up with any bullshit.
Anonymous No.76529363
>>76529320
>76529320
say that when i blast double you back to the stone age you goddamn dyke
Anonymous No.76529366
>>76529305
Go ahead and take it. It's a pretty common meme for people to disappear after getting their blue belt, because that gives you like 90%+ of everything you need for MMA or self defense. Most everything beyond that is for BJJ only competition. Then just go and take thai or traditional boxing. More than anything, learn how to sprint. The odds of getting severely injured in a street fight is decently high, even if you beat the shit out of the other guy. Being able to throw a devastating sucker punch if need be and then getting the fuck out of there quick, especially against multiple attackers is the probably the best thing you could do.
Anonymous No.76529443
>mogs your discipline
Anonymous No.76529454 >>76531091
>>76528596 (OP)
>I wanna be capable of killing someone
The bjj is not for you, judo is far more likely to kill someone because you are slamming someone at terminal speeds against concrete, even judo sweeps are not pretty in concrete.
Pulling guard, being at the bottom and pretty much every bjj habit can get you killed if strikes are available.
Anonymous No.76529459
>>76528659
>>76528704
This.
Anonymous No.76529523
>>76528596 (OP)
If you want to be deadly this is what you have to do.
Lift heavy weights fast, this the best way to build speed and power for any martial art.
For striking the style you pick doesn't actually matter but you have to learn weight shifting so your strikes are as strong as possible, timing and accuracy to deliver the most amount of damage possible.

For grappling anything is fine too except bjj.
Wrestling and judo will give you the strength and explosive power to be deadly while also allowing you to perform throws that are fight enders.
Sambo if you have access to it has everything, striking, judo, wrestling, submissions and even the conditioning but is hard to find a legit place in America.
Bjj is the worst style to pick because it's the only style where strength and conditioning are secondary, every other style puts a lot of emphasis on it but bjj are a lot more careless about it so they are all dyels.
Pulling guard will get you killed and bjj from the bottom doesn't work against strikes, the only benefit from bjj is the ability to get up from underneath but you can learn that on your own while practicing a real style.

For self defense against weapons, there's not a single style that teaches you this but what you need is to train your reactions to see when they are reaching for their weapon and either knock them out or throw them before they can, this is the single most important thing to learn for self defense, it doesn't matter what style you do, as long as you can see it coming and react to it you can either knock them out or throw them.
You shouldn't go for a submission because you want to end the fight as quickly as possible and the time it takes you to do a submission is way longer than a punch or a throw.
Anonymous No.76529531
>>76528596 (OP)
Just do Muay Thai like every other insecure faggot
Anonymous No.76529555
>>76529338
At my first gym we had to bow before getting on the mat, bow to the coach, who called himself professor, and had to bow to everyone at the end of training. Switched to a new gym and my current coach says bowing is gay and we are all just adults who want to train. Finding the right place is key
Anonymous No.76529564
>>76528596 (OP)
You do have the capability to kill someone
You don't need validation for that
Anonymous No.76529582 >>76529602 >>76529750
>>76529103
>i walk around unarmed therefore everyone else must too
actual retard first bjj school i went to the head instructor literally brought a gun to class. he just straight up pulled it out of his bag
Anonymous No.76529602 >>76529606
>>76529582
>GUYS LOOK, HE PULLED A GUN OMG.
Anonymous No.76529606
>>76529602
>BASEDJAK
Anonymous No.76529611 >>76529666
Tried to do it myself but I feel its hard as fuck to balance with lifting. My JJ friends told me I need to attend classes at least 3-4x a week to progress however I can't really do it after a lifting session since a Jiu Jitsu class requires a lot of energy

If I didn't have a job I'd honestly go for it though.
Anonymous No.76529666
>>76529611
If you're competing, then you probably need that much mat time. Hobbyists can get good fairly quickly with 3 times a week as long as you're not fucking around. That leaves three days to lift and 1 day for a long run.
Anonymous No.76529737
i love it. you need to be extremely healthy with good recovery to pull it off as a solo exercise schedule. im doing morning and evenings 4 days a week and im ridiculously stronger and not bored as fuck like at the gym or constantly waiting for machines and stuff. there's no way to get 100% out of your body like trying to force yourself against someone else's body
Anonymous No.76529750
>>76529582
you're more likely to have your life saved by having good heart health from your self defense class than by actually using the self defense. that doesnt make it a stupid or pointless thing to do.
Anonymous No.76529869
I have done it off and on my whole life. It’s great to be healthy and make male friends. Long term it has fucked my grip strength and messed up my joints. I havnt trained in about two years and still believe I could beat up 90 percent of people unless I get rocked instantly but even then most people suck at striking. It also shows how important size is and what you are actually capable of.
Anonymous No.76531091 >>76531948
>>76529454
Horrible advice
Judo more often then not you're throwing yourself onto the concrete too.
O goshi - your own elbow tip is the first thing that hits the mat
Kosoto gake, tani otoshi etc
The way people turn throw in judo, very often they slam their own face or shoulder into the mat
Anything drop is dangerous. Far more dangerous than hitting your knee like in wrestling, because wrestlers level change and then drop their knee, whereas you're just dropping from standing.

Anything hopping can be risky due to unstable ground.

Upper body throws, especially turn throws have a high risk of rollthrough, thus losing position and perhaps hurting yourself
Bigger throws have the same problems. In addition bigger throws can lead to legal problems.

Best moves for the street - avoid yourself hitting the ground, avoid rollthrough, do stuff that avoids hopping or lifting your leg, and do low amplitude (but have the option to hit moves high amplitude if you must).
High single, inside or outside, is great. Avoids hitting your knee. Unlike the double it has a lot of low amplitude finishes, and is easier to catch.
Knee picks
Anything that lets you get behind your opponent
Body locks - body fold is a safe option.
Snapdowns

Tai Otoshi - non drop version
Hustling version of uke goshi is very safe. (just circle into them)

Foot sweeps are decent, but are done from closer controls than in judo
Anonymous No.76531154
>>76528854
This has always been an invalid argument. You’re assuming you’re the only one who will “fight dirty” in an altercation and this somehow means you’ll win against a purple belt would who just pick you up and drop you on your head before you even knew what happened.
Anonymous No.76531160
>>76528831
Is BJJ a good student?
Anonymous No.76531161 >>76532092
>>76528596 (OP)
I’m weary about getting back into jiu jitsu because I joined it earlier this year and fucked my rotator cuff after a month. I did 2 weeks just doing bjj then I started incorporating 3 weight lifting sessions a week and 3 classes and I screwed up my rotator cuff so bad I had to drop bjj and lifting for weeks, my cuff still acts up every now and then, sometimes I’ll sleep on it wrong and it’s sore for the day. It’s keeping me from doing bjj. I’m just waiting for it to fully heal so i can approach bjj again and train smartly. Don’t know how to navigate through this. But I do know I won’t be making the same mistake of too much volume.
Anonymous No.76531228 >>76533875
>>76528596 (OP)

I have a friend who was a former judo silver medalist in his home country we call him Hiro, when Jiu Jitsu became all the rage he started training. One weekend he was visiting me in England, and we ended up back in my old blue collar mining town. One of me old mates from school came up to us and was rather drunk, his name was Kevin and he was that one hard kid who even the teachers were scared of, on account of him being unpredictable and mental. Anyway he starts with getting close and loud grabbing ya by the shoulder and neck , anyone who's familiar with a bit of argy bargy, knows he was just mucking about, but Hiro took offense to it. Kept telling him you don't wanna do this man, these hands are deadly, anyway logic does not prevail and Hiro slams Kevin on his face then tries to put him in a triangle, at which point Kevin reaches his hands through and grabs Hiro by the balls and starts squeezing till he's got tears in his eyes and exhaling, Kevin then slips out and Hammer fists Hiro unconscious then proceeds to try and stamp his skull in before I stopped him.

Long story short I literally watched an Olmypian get his shit almost permanently wrecked by a home town drunk. If im in the street and someone trys to put me out, I don't know what's gonna happen once you sub me, so I would literally do anything to stop that from happening, even if that means burying my thumbs in your eyes, smashing your testicles, or biting your femoral artery, head butting you into oblivion, no martial art prepares you for life or death. Also you saying faggy shit like you wanna kill someone , tells me its your bed time Lil fella.
Anonymous No.76531456
>>76528847
>no, bjj is here to stay for proving it's effectiveness as a martial art.
It's great for fighting one unarmed person. How many situations outside competition can you be relatively sure that's how it will turn out? You usually don't know they don't have a knife or their friend won't start kicking you in the back of the neck once you're down
Anonymous No.76531948
>>76531091
>Horrible advice
Stopped reading there.
Anonymous No.76532033
>>76528854
Bro I'm a steeet fighter I just see red bro I'll throw dirt in your eyes bro I'm crazy wacky
Anonymous No.76532035
>>76528889
Why should I learn to walk if I driving is faster
Anonymous No.76532092
>>76531161
Odds are you were going too hard trying not to lose
Anonymous No.76532399
>>76528659
this
Anonymous No.76533875
>>76531228
/thread
Anonymous No.76533882
>>76528596 (OP)
So you think you are going to roll around on the street or on a floor at a club or something?
You are going to get stomped my guy. The guy you grapple will bite you or go for your eyes. I know I would.

Stay on your feet, be ready to run at all times. Strike first, fast and hard.