Thread 76535386

this is pavel durov, the creator of telegram
he's 40 and his net worth is estimated in billions
here's what he says about longevity and fitness

>1. AVOID alcohol. There may be some rare exceptions, but in general, alcohol (as well as other addictive substances) makes people less healthy and visually older.
>2. Sleep a LOT. Sleep is when your body repairs itself. You can’t borrow it: lack of sleep during the week can’t be compensated with oversleeping on the weekend.
>3. Do NOT overeat. Excessive weight makes people look older and correlates with dozens of illnesses. Typically I eat twice a day within a 6-hour window or once a day, no snacking. Eating 3+ times a day is just a (bad) habit.
>4. EXERCISE. Moderate but regular exercise makes people look healthier and live longer. Personally, I don’t do much cardio (I’d rather walk/cycle/swim in the open air) and prefer moderate weights.
>5. LIMIT stress. There are mental habits that help. It helps to believe that everything that happens is for the better. Stoic techniques such as negative visualisation and generally not giving a shit also work. Living close to nature makes all of the above easier.
>6. Do NOT eat meat. Eating seafood and wild-caught fish is fine, but farmed red meat is something most people who look younger than their age avoid. I suspect the unhealthy nature of farmed meat has to do with the way livestock is raised and killed (growth hormones, fodder etc).

>7. Live ALONE. Surprisingly, all the young-looking, middle-aged men I spoke with lived alone for most of their lives. It may be the result of their independence from the sleeping/eating/behavioral patterns of another person. Or it’s just correlation, and people who are independent from unhealthy societal norms are also independent in their personal lives.
>Interestingly, you can find scientific explanations for most of these points (even the last one is defensible, e.g. there are multiple studies showing that sleeping alone improves the quality of sleep). I’ve been following these rules for over 10 years, with "more sleep" being the most difficult due to the nature of my work.
>If you are twice as young as I am and looking for the key takeaway, here it is: NEVER DRINK ALCOHOL. Once you give up on alcohol, you’ll stop silencing your intuition, which will tell you what is good and what is bad for you. You will figure out everything you need to know by yourself and won’t depend on other people for advice.

now explain why would you even need a bigger/better body than this while also spending hours in a gym grinding your joints, if you target longevity

>>76535386 (OP)
>Do NOT eat meat.
said a billionaire yet again
fuck off

Bro I loooove billionaires. I’m gonna make the billionaires my Christ-substitute and conform my whole life around their espoused philosophies. Then I will become a billionaire too and live forever with big sexy muscles and hot gf with big naturals.

All of his wealth is in crypto, he cant buy anything because the feds cucked him (he made telegram)

He copes by telling people "i acktually dont even care about owning things haha"

Ah, almost forgot
> 8. Do a hair implant while you're at it

why is a 40 year old guy giving advice on longevity? even lifetime morbidly obese people reach 40 effortlessly nowadays

>>76535444
he gave a rationale for that
eat your meat if you want, not sure why you are getting worked up over this, I will take the word of some ripped wealthy famous dude over some random retard online
>>76535480
This is the most important part
>>76535489
People look far worse by 25 and he's almost double that, so his bullshit about longevity clearly works
>inb4 genetics
Sure, but drinking all day will turn you into a mess regardless of genetics

>>76535480
Truke

>>76535444
do not eat goyslop factory meat.

>>76535386 (OP)
>>76535394
Is he auditioning for the next Dune

>>76535386 (OP)
He does look good for 40 but half this stuff is only tolerable if you're a billionaire with no work requirements, on demand cook and access to crazy forms of entertainment for enjoyment.

For most people with jobs and kids perfect sleep is a dream, meal preparation to consistently do IF is a challenge and alcohol is a normal means of relaxation and socialization.

But going to a bar on a friday and letting loose with friends would be a weird concept to some slav who has cargo containers of 8 year old bacha bazi boys delivered to his penthouse suite nightly.

>>76535386 (OP)
>Billionaire has no stress in life and has the time to commit to his physical health be cause no worries about money.
Fuck off you retard, never have children.

Dr.Pavel,am CIA

>>76535386 (OP)
>Do NOT eat meat. Eating seafood and wild-caught fish is fine, but farmed red meat is something most people who look younger than their age avoid. I suspect the unhealthy nature of farmed meat has to do with the way livestock is raised and killed (growth hormones, fodder etc).
Has this billionaire retard never heard of grass-fed, locally farmed beef? I would literally have my own personal farm if I were that rich.

>>76535529
>I will take the word of some ripped wealthy famous dude over some random retard online
You shouldn't be taking anyone's word for anything, dumbass. You should be thinking for yourself. Also, healthy beef exists. You just have to get it from local ranchers who don't feed them grain and inject them with hormones and other garbage.

>>76535691
>Billionaire has no stress in life
are you retarded?
>>76535699
Where's the chatgpt part, you reard?
it's a post from his own telegram channel
>>76535879
>stop listening to successful healthy looking people
?

>>76535529
>People look far worse by 25 and he's almost double that, so his bullshit about longevity clearly works
lmao

Bro. It's easy.
1. Get hair transplant
2. Use steroids
3. Get Botox
4. MOST IMPORTANT get a stylist and a haircut/beard that fits you
6. Get professional photoshoots

That's much more important than what he claims. This is him last year btw, from a candid photo. He looks extremely different depending on the photoshoot so yu can tell it's mostly smokes and mirrors.

>>76535386 (OP)
>>76535389
Did he roast me I can't tell? I have most of these habits but they're derived most from poverty. Lot of poultry and fish, red meat is very rare and I usually opt for lamb when it's an option.

>>76535567
Meal prep is literally easier than cooking something different every night
You use the same amount of dishes and slightly more time upfront to make several days or even a weeks worth of food

>>76535945
He looks 52 in that photo.

>>76535976
He looks early to mid 40s. A little buccal and neck fat but nothing a cut wouldn't solve.

>>76535386 (OP)
>>76535389
>live alone and don’t eat meat

Gee wonder where I’ve heard this before

>>76535976
No, he looks his age. You're just face blind like most anons.

>>76535386 (OP)
>>76535394
who posted that CHILD? MODS!!!

>>76535945
doesnt look like pavol

>>76535985
>>76536024
My uncle looked like that 10 years ago and he has 40yo son.

>>76535901
Then he wrote it with Chspgp. Fuck you.

>>76535386 (OP)
>if you target longevity
Never seen anyone say they workout to live as long as possible

>>76536355
thats how it was sold to people in eastern eu/ussr. i literally remember such talk when i was kid

Great tips. I'll come back to them if I ever want to become a faggot

>>76535386 (OP)
>>76535389
OK, that's nice anon.
Now here's a picture of Pavel Durov a decade (or more) ago, before he got his hair transplant and started taking finasteride:

>>76535529
>drinking all day will turn you into a mess
That's the point
Also fuck Russians

>>76535386 (OP)
>Listen to a nerd on how to get fit
No thanks faggot

>>76535394
lmao he looks like a Mortal Kombat character

>live alone
For some reason God never allowed me to live alone. I realized that all my life, my entire existence, I've lived with someone and had to share my space and comfort with someone. I was never allowed the respite of living on my own and having my own space and peace.
I'm sure this has fueled my misanthropy to some extent. I found that when I'm gone, or when my house mates (be they parents, or my now wife) are away, or generally speaking when I'm by myself be it during a run, or hike, or workout, or whatever, I'm generally more calm and "nice" so to speak. I'm happy, I can make small talk at the grocery store, or anything really.
But when I'm back with people, I'm nasty and petty.

>>76536922
Ah right I’m human so not from there.

>>76537236
Wagmi

>>76535389
>7. Live ALONE
so this is essentially saying that all of this is entirely for its own sake and you shouldn't have a nice life with a wife and family, throwing that out to stay young looking for an extra ten years. i'm good

>>76538718
>I'm sure this has fueled my misanthropy to some extent
no, the majority of people i know have never lived alone and are perfectly personable and well adjusted. don't blame others for your shitty personality and take some responsibility for yourself

>>76535386 (OP)
Slavoids don't look like that at 40 at all, they age worse than white people. Nigga only bought facial surgery and that's it.

>hair transplant
>roids
>5'6

>>76538718
Shut the fuck up

this nigga has ONE HUNDRED CHILDREN
sperm donation and otherwise

>>76537236
IN SOVIET RUSSIA

PLASTIC SURGERY

HAS YOU

>>76535389
>7. Live ALONE. Surprisingly, all the young-looking, middle-aged men I spoke with lived alone for most of their lives. It may be the result of their independence from the sleeping/eating/behavioral patterns of another person. Or it’s just correlation, and people who are independent from unhealthy societal norms are also independent in their personal lives.
My theory is that living with a woman (and children) lowers your testosterone.

>>76539368
elaborate
shouldn't it be the opposite
altough it's true that men that have a kid usually let themselves go
there's no much need to lookmaxx and keep being fit and shredded if you alrady accomplished your evolutionary goal
being overweight is related with lower testosterone also, the typical dad-mode is a fat dude with a beer belly for a reason

>>76539380
>elaborate
>shouldn't it be the opposite
I think what you assume is that testosterone is good for their role as protector of wife and offspring. However aggression, risk taking behavior, and infidelity are things that are better curbed when having the responsibility of living with and taking care of a family.
Also consider that the low test of the modern man is something of the last decades. Having that ever lower is a bad thing in most cases, but that's different for a man with the average testosterone levels of a century ago.

>>76535386 (OP)
>alcohol makes people less healthy and visually older.
You're a retard if you avoid alcohol for this reason. I abstain from drinking because it lowers testosterone and impairs protein synthesis.
Alcohol's social benefits probably far outweighs is health detriments if you're a light to moderate drinker.

>>76535693
HAHAHA, I was just about to post that

Balkan genetics are cheating,you can find a handful of construction workers with that body and they don't know what a calorie is but good for him for looking slightly younger

>>76535386 (OP)
Yeah right, shit advice. He's probably just a genetic outlier. I definitely agree that not working is more healthy, I'm always way healthier and can reverse aging during periods of unemployment. But you gotta eat animals. Everything in their bodies is stuff your body needs. Eat skin to have good skin, when I started getting the chicken with the skin on it my skin got way more supple due to the collagen. That's also why black don't crack, all the fried chicken skin they eat.

>>76535529
>ripped wealthy famous dude over some random retard online
I wonder if you are proud of being the cattle these people see everyone as. If you think about it, there is no reason to trust him more then anyone else.
>You will figure out everything you need to know by yourself and won’t depend on other people for advice.
Even this random guy you decided to worship for superficial reasons is telling you to think for yourself

>>76535389
>>7. Live ALONE.
trvthnvke
nobody on /fit/ will touch this because they want you to slave away for a woman instead of enjoying your life

>>76535386 (OP)
This piece of shit is Russian and a Putin cocksucker, so he exaggerates about the harm caused by alcohol because most Russians are alcoholic subhumans.
The French and Italians drink wine almost everyday and live longer than most people.

>>76535389
>Live ALONE
this is definitely bullshit
married men (which almost always live with their wife) consistently live longer and have more healthy years
and that advantage barely moves even if you control for any imaginable parameter

i know he talked about young-looking, but the arguably more important metric is "healthy years", aka how long until you can't walk / see / hear / move properly anymore due to age

>>76535873
>muh but my local grass fed farm
it's the same overbred, frankenstein cows
where you only eat the nutrient sparse lean meat / fat

you could eat game and organs or grow old races yourself
which would make it a little better
but then again
the scientific claims behind this is essential meat, or too much meat, is bad for your health, causes inflammation and has few beneficial nutrients compared to other protein rich foods
but too many retards on /fit/ that don't want to hear this

>>76535386 (OP)
>40 years old
>lecturing about """longevity"""
He should wait another 40 years before he starts doing that.

>>76539380
For 99% or our history we were pre-agricultural, and high test men basically spent all their time with other men doing all the hunting and crafting etc while the women gathered berries and shit, communally raised all the kids, along with more limited crafting.
Men fucked the women they owned but otherwise spent no time with them or the very young children. When boys were old enough to learn, they'd then take the boys, or they'd pick new wives from the girls. Weaker and more gentle boys would either die young or on a hunt.

As time went on, agriculture etc, the weaker boys would be made eunuchs and care for mens' harems etc.
Then, christcuckery came along and decided ALL men must be little women-serving faggots and all women belonged to the state/church so forced the nuclear family. Now every woman has an obedient low test eunuch at home staying away all night feeding baby and spending all his money entertaining her.
Natirally it takes a village to raise a kid, and now it's done by 2 people locked in a house together. Men who spend all their free time caring for women and children just turn into little emotional bitches because it's a feminising role.
The body adapts to this, doubly so if the man possesses no muscle or is fat.
This is why women like dad bods on providers because they still have some muscle to make them feel safe, but have enough fat to make them feminised and compliant.

Lean, muscular men just don't have that feminised bitchness, they are generally universally pretty based and massive fanny rats.

Hope u enjoyed my blog, have a death dealer

AND japanese wimminz like effeminate boys for some reason now and not samurai lookin dudes

>>76535386 (OP)
I notice none of his advice includes blasting questionable Russian steroids

>>76539380
Forgot to address
>there's no much need to lookmaxx and keep being fit and shredded if you already accomplished your evolutionary goal
There is no accomplishing your evolutionary goal. Life isn't a videogame you complete. Nature wants you to go to your grave having coomed in women until the last minute.
Having babies isn't our drive, it's sex. Babies are a side effect. If sex wasn't great then we'd be extinct cos no man would tolerate any amount of time with a woman if not for sex.
So no, your evolutionary goal is not "muh progeny" we just happen to be aware that cumming in a woman results in that.
Animals and isolated brown people have no idea. Men just want to coom and women have babies. It's only white people being smart that figured out the connection between the two.

Have a based yellow fever monke this time

>those admire threads
>only the dudes with the correct energy are getting tail
>there too many wrong energy betas around making women thirsty
>I just the curvature is heading in the right direction when it comes to men
>The ultimate goal is Superman
>Strong and intelligent

>>76542341
if your rant was true on any level we'd never had evolved past homo habilis dude

>>76542472
Not the most strong or the most intelligent survives, only the most adaptable
now how to i apply this statement to reality ...
money? status?
Everything just seems to be going downhill

>>76540609
Anyone that has lived with women or kids can tell that they massively increase your stress levels even if you love them to death. The reason they live longer is that you're comparing them to the dregs of society. As in the ones that can't find anyone that can stand to live with them.

>>76542497
We haven't.
All it takes is one man every million to invent something that makes life easier and forces the rest of us to use it.
Look around you, the vast majority of humans are utter retards that can just about operate a smartphone.
We're fucking LESS than our ancestors. Look at indians, millennia of dysgenic selection has resulted in stunted bodies and atrophied brains because nature doesn't select any more, wealth/status does, and wealth being largely hereditary rather than the result of desirable genetics, and evil ideologies like christcuckery for the serfs mean that humans are now a shadow of the gigachads that used to dance naked round campfires while the day's hunt roasted over it.

The vast majority of humans seek comfort. In the pre-agricultural past, the seeking of greatness was rewarded, and the comfort seekers suffered.
Now, the comfort seekers vastly outnumber we few who want to be better, and the vast majority voted wholesale to create a wooly world of safety that has made a lifestyle desirable to actual men impossible.
We want land, to farm and hunt our own meat, and to be free. To sit on a log under the stars and gaze into the fire we built.
The 99.9% don't want that. They want a mcjob, sofa, tiktok and uber eats, and what we want is either prohibitively expensive at best or outright illegal at worst

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjwIRAx2gx8

this game man, this game

>>76540630
>(((scientific claims)))

>>76542624
>proving exactly the point

Why would I take advice from someone who frauds?

>>76542597
>cut off head

HEY, RELAX GUY

>AI is coming
>chef robots
christ not every meal has to be a 5 star Michelin dish
get a automatic cooking appliance
cook some lentils, carbs
fish protein
and some green veggies

>>76542597
so in short, you would like to return to monke?
also, wise-one, what do we do about it?

>>76540630
Fuck off, vegan faggot. Meat is not bad for you. It's only bad if you eat conventional meat because factory farming practices are absolutely disgusting. No shit if you feed a cow an unnatural diet it won't be as nutrient-dense; they're supposed to eat fucking grass, preferably from healthy soil.

>>76538718
get a cat nigger

>>76535444
Dude.. Yucky yucky floor meat. Watch dominion idiot, it's gross. At least have the balls to murder your own animal

>>76543318
But the problem is. For most people the only meat they can get with reasonable effort/cost is factory farmed slop full of hormones. Yes if you were to hunt and eat the entire animal it'd be good for you. But that's unsustainable as a large scale solution.

>>76535386 (OP)
Fun fact: this guy has over 100 biological children from sperm donation, not even meming. Muskcel can't compete

>>76535386 (OP)
>swim in the open air
He's swimming in clouds?

>>76543528
you could have like a lake or a pool in the open, yeah

>>76538718
I am the same way. I love being alone. Being with other people too long makes me irritable.