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>but the points is you'll never look like the guy from OP's pic unless you hop on juice
Most people here don't realize that if you're natural, and spend months cutting down to that low bodyfat level, you will be extremely depleted, steroids is what helps muscle to remain full when you're otherwise depleted. People will also say "bro you don't need roids for this" but there's literally nobody on this board who can post a comparable body with similar bodyfat percent and muscle hardness.
Even the guy who posted his body, if you ignore the fact that he's anglefrauding and pressing his arm against his body really hard to appear more muscular than he is, would need another 10lbs of muscle while getting leaner to match OP's body, and he's extremely delusional if he thinks he can put on another 10kg of muscle mass while getting even leaner in the span of <2 years past beginner gains phase.