Thread 76537113

fitness memes that legitimately do not work for hypertrophy and only waste time
>calf training (literally does not grow in response to exercise)
>neck training (does not respond either, cases of neck hypertrophy are all due to testosterone usage)
>forearm training (does not respond much at all, requires hyperspecialization that ruins an ordinary routine)
>being lean and big natty
>leangaining/"maingaining"
>unweighted ab training
>mike mentzer/"high intensity" larp
>powerlifting
>basically all supplements besides creatine which is arguably a waste of money aswell
>minimalist routines
you're welcome

>>76537113 (OP)
1+2+3+5+the last one and the one before it are just a self-report about your utterly dogshit subhuman genetics
Quite surprising that your parents agreed to fuck and thought to themselves "yeah we're literal biowaste why not combine all of our flaws into one Frankenstein morbidity who's best choice in life would be considering assisted suicide"

>>76537113 (OP)
You don’t need all these words to say you’re a loser OP

>>76537113 (OP)
>>neck training
have you seen an f1 driver??

>>76537131
show me one person who actually grew their calves, not just getting fat, they're entirely genetic, a sedentary starving chinaman calfmogs mogs african bodybuilders on roids. direct calfwork and forearm beyond some wrist curls is an absolute meme, ofcourse you also believe in "maingaining" and junk supplements that MAY give you 0.005% extra gains a month for the price of a test cycle, projecting dyel.
>>76537158
they're on PEDs, yes, for driving, yes it sounds retarded but this is a sport where many millions are at stake so they are.

If you still don't know how to train calves, you are legitimately retarded. Even a fucking morons like mike israetek have figured it out.
All other points are aldo dumb as fuck. Op, you are a cretine

>>76537113 (OP)
>calf training (literally does not grow in response to exercise)
Why did I see a 500lb guy with 20 inch calves (not cankles) the other day then?
>neck training (does not respond either, cases of neck hypertrophy are all due to testosterone usage)
Why do heavy metal head bangers have big necks despite being dyel everywhere else then?
>forearm training (does not respond much at all, requires hyperspecialization that ruins an ordinary routine)
Why did my forearms get bigger after switching to an axle barbell then?
>being lean and big natty
Explain Mike O'Hearn then.

>>76537193
>they're on PEDs, yes
delusional

>>76537208
>more bullshit about YOU LE DISAGREE WITH ME? WELL YOU MUST BE LE DOIN IT WRONG UNLIKE ME!
show me one guy who got huge calves through direct training, beyond like an inch.
>>76537214
>Why did I see a 500lb guy with 20 inch calves (not cankles) the other day then
fat guy with genetics, calves are typically genetically lean aswell, they don't really grow from exercise.
>Why do heavy metal head bangers have big necks despite being dyel everywhere else then?
they don't, its literally just one guy from cannibal corpse who simply has a big neck, not from headbanging.
>Why did my forearms get bigger after switching to an axle barbell then?
because your forearms got way more of a pump, and the placebo effect hit you bad.
>Explain Mike O'Hearn then.
duck eggs.

>>76537231
>fat guy with genetics, calves are typically genetically lean aswell, they don't really grow from exercise.
So he would have had 20 inch calves if he was 150 lbs instead of 500?
>they don't, its literally just one guy from cannibal corpse who simply has a big neck, not from headbanging.
That's not even the guy I was thinking of but googling head banger neck brings up nothing but that fucker.
>because your forearms got way more of a pump, and the placebo effect hit you bad.
pump lasts 48 hours?

>>76537193
>mogs african bodybuilders on roids
Because those dont train legs

>>76537227
naive retarded fucking child, every single sport uses PEDs, let alone the richkid rich corporation one. they use meth and cocaine to get an edge, what makes you think they don't use other shit to get their neck strong?
https://sportscar365.com/sro/world-challenge-europe/leventis-given-four-year-ban-in-doping-case/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doping_in_auto_racing
>>76537244
>So he would have had 20 inch calves if he was 150 lbs instead of 500?
possibly, but this is a retarded argument anyway, you saw one guy, so fucking what? calves don't really respond to exercise. next time you go outside look at the obese sheboons and note how tiny their calves are. MUH FUCKING FAT GUY OMG!!!!! calves don't hypertrophy much through exercise.
>>76537247
i'm talking about blacks in general, who do train legs. blacks have small calf genetics, asians have big calves, whites can vary and are typically inbetween.

>>76537113 (OP)
>neck training (does not respond either, cases of neck hypertrophy are all due to testosterone usage)
look at the average judo/wrestling/bjj guy they got big necks and only the pros are on gear
look at mah nigga Kimura here, big ol neck and this was in the 40s

>>76537267
>only the pros are on gear
lmao

>>76537261
>possibly, but this is a retarded argument anyway, you saw one guy, so fucking what? calves don't really respond to exercise. next time you go outside look at the obese sheboons and note how tiny their calves are. MUH FUCKING FAT GUY OMG!!!!! calves don't hypertrophy much through exercise.
It wasn't one guy. I've never seen a fatasfatass with small calves. Even after losing weight they generally keep bigger than average calves. That guy in particular was just the biggest calves I've ever seen. They were probably bigger than 20 inches desu senpai.

>>76537274
could it be because they're fat? stop being retarded please.

>>76537275
>Even after losing weight they generally keep bigger than average calves.
>(not cankles)
> Even after losing weight they generally keep bigger than average calves.
Please learn to read and comprehend things before responding to me.

>>76537277
i know right, bulking to 500lbs is how i got 45 inch biceps.

>>76537278
>I saw a 500lb guy walking around doing a handstand
retard

>>76537279
his biceps grew because he was 500lbs walking around meaning he was basically squatting that much all day everyday, causing increased muscle synthesis in general, everybody knows fat people walk so much all day causing their muscles to hypertrophy. look at how big they are, fat people are so muscular.
everybody knows fat people walk everywhere.

>>76537284
>500lb young men don't walk
>the one you saw walking was an optical illusion
Is this your final argument?

>>76537261
>mad online
lol, lmao even

>>76537288
seeing a 500lbs whale waddle somewhere once does not prove calf training causes reasonable muscle hypertrophy. if this worked, you'd be able to easily provide good examples of individuals who isolated their calves in training and got proportionately big calves. but it doesn't exist.

>>76537303
Once again, I have never seen a fatasfatass with small calves, and neither have you. You know why? Because walking around while fat trains your calves and makes them bigger.
>inb4 you imply it's because they are just fat again

>>76537308
>Once again, I have never seen a fatasfatass with small calves, and neither have you. You know why?
because they're fat, not because they trained their calves and got big calf muscles, walking doesn't even hit calves much, and if you're fat you're not fucking walking a lot.

>>76537316
>calves are typically genetically lean aswell,
>it was just an optical illusion!
retard

>>76537319
fat isn't just over a muscle, its inside of it aswell, underneath the calf towards to ankles is mostly tendon. even if fat people do get bigger calf muscle, its pointless and irrelevant because it isnt a viable way of training and by definition is not calf training.

>>76537330
>its pointless and irrelevant because it isnt a viable way of training and by definition is not calf training.
top tier mental gymnastics. I accept your concession.

>>76537113 (OP)
>creatine which is arguably a waste of money aswell
How so? Elaborate.

op here, i just want to say i'm sorry for making a shitty bait thread and will do better in the future

>>76537335
good luck with your 40 sets a week of calf and tibialis raises to increase your calves by half an inch because "muh fat guys".
>>76537341
its basically like 2-4lbs of muscle gain total in the form of water storage to muscle that goes away if you stop taking it, nothing beyond it.
>>76537348
nice argument.

>>76537356
>good luck with your 40 sets a week of calf and tibialis raises to increase your calves by half an inch because "muh fat guys".
imagine getting calf mogged by a zogbot redditor because "it isn't a viable way of training" kek

>>76537335
why don't marathon runners have massive calves? even if they're light they do so much calfwork by your definition they should have cannonballs dangling below their tiny frames.

>>76537368
>calves fatiguing means they grow from exercise
pajeet tier iq

>>76537370
I didn't profess to know why walking around with 500lbs on your ankles grows your calves. I just said it's obvious that it does.
>>76537377
>still denying the fatpill
your loss calflet

>Just don't try
lol ok

>>76537389
its hilarious people can accept shit like androgen sensitivity in shoulders and traps, muscle and tendon insertions affecting strength and explosiveness, some even accept the fact that some people simply build muscle faster and are leaner, yet nobody ever accepts calves are almost entirely genetic, even though it is THE most obvious and observable thing, all because of "muh fat guy tho". all you need to do is go outside and look at the calves of some different ethnicities. its so fucking funny because nobody really gives a fuck about calves anyway.
>>76537392
nobody said this you whiny faggot.

>>76537405
Post one (1) fat guy with small calves and I will admit you're right (you won't (because you can't)).

>>76537409
literally any other nigger or negress.

>>76537113 (OP)
Explain how supplements are bad? Vitamin D is a must especially if you live in the north.

>>76537113 (OP)
OP, your list is largely bullshit because I'm a perp weight lean "natty" on a whole boat-load of supplements, but trooning out to regrow hair is absolutely a meme, picrel courtesy of leddit.
>protip: topically active estrogenic compounds can have some better results but are nowhere close to the holy grail of hair growth or even Osteopontin-CD44 upregulation.