Thread 76546912

If raw milk is better for you why is it always ugly meth-heads and hillbillies that try to make you drink raw milk? What's their goal here? To keto you weak and effeminate?

>>76546912 (OP)
Is the retard with the pen being a retard on purpose?

>>76546912 (OP)
>If raw milk is better for you
only facebook-tier trump-loving faggots think this

christ, i hate social media so much for making people believe all this retarded shit

>>76546919
How does heating milk make it more nutritious? Answer now.

Milk is designed to be drunk straight from the tit.

>>76546912 (OP)
Anon, they are just not fat. That is all.

Its not that different from regular milk in terms of health, its fairly common in some European countries to drink it or make stuff with it. It wasn't conflated with crazies until recently when right wingers in America were pushing it and the lefties seeing the right push something started to vehemently hate it.

>>76546912 (OP)
RAW MILK IS A BIG PHARMA PSYOP TO GIVE YOU E. COLI SO THEY SELL MORE COLON CANCER CHEMO!

If you're too stupid to look it up, probably just drink some, kek.

Been drinking it for five years now and can't complain.

in my country some people buy raw milk from farms because it's the freshest and best tasting milk

in the US it's some type of political debate

sounds like a miserable way to live

>>76546912 (OP)
Imagine being a disgusting kike and thinking there is something wrong with how these people look
Lmfao lol even

>>76547452
In my country we have vending machines in the middle of cities with raw milk
America is a kike dumpster

Finding a farmer willing to sell me raw milk in ontario was harder than buying literal drugs.

Joke country. If I can buy Mcdonalds and alcohol i should be able to buy whatever milk I want

>>76546912 (OP)
Shalom rabbi

>>76547104
You should be inoculating your guys with non-toxic strains of e. Coli to outcompete the other kinds of e. Coli and harmful bacteria.
You are a retard who thinks everything is megacorp.

>>76546912 (OP)
The soidditor is the most annoying thing in that video. Anyways, she's right that raw milk doesn't spoil it ferments as long as it is in a fridge, it won't taste good however.

>>76547562
It's a sad state of affairs. I would continue to drink it if it was more convenient to get. Also it's a shame that it got co-opted by organic hippies but maybe that's for the better if it leads to relaxed legislation, I think RFK was considering it.

>>76546920
How does boiling water make it more nutritious? Answer now.

>>76546912 (OP)
Didn't she die from it?

>>76546919
>only facebook-tier faggots think this. christ, i hate social media so much for making people believe all this retarded shit

Took out the Trump part because don't need political bullshit in this. But I have found it really funny that /fit/ in particular seems to latch onto all these health fads that are extremely popular with, like you said, Facebook tier faggots, or stay at home moms, hollistic healers, multilevel marketers, and all those other complete (usually women) retards. Raw milk, sunscreen/shampoo/soap/toothpaste/deodorant are all poison, etc. You'd think that a board full of misogynistic, rich work from home engineering/science geniuses wouldn't believe that shit.

>>76546912 (OP)
the best part about raw milk content is that its nearly always women posting about it, and its on their facebooks, instagrams, or tik toks. i know that if theres a trusted source i want to go to and listen to for content, i always go with women over men, and especially women on social media, who are the smartest minds of our current society. if women with onlyfans accounts started posting about raw milk, that might be the smartest source possible.

>>76546912 (OP)
Look at the faggot in the video trying to get you to not consume raw milk Op.

>>76546912 (OP)
I'm drinking raw fermented milk as I read this thread. It's quite chunky and delicious.

>>76546920
Why do raw milk advocates always rely on straw men instead of legitimate evidence for their claims? Answer now.

A friendly reminder that raw milk pushers have literally nothing to back up their claims. Anytime somebody tries to tell you that raw milk will cure a certain ailment or is more nutritious or better for you, tell them you want a randomized controlled study instead of just some nonsense being spouted by a YouTube grifter. .

>>76546912 (OP)
I have nothing against fresh raw milk, but literally every traditional method of preparing it like for yogurt or kefir or whatever involves boiling or simmering the milk to kill off the pre-existing bacteria in it. If you're going to let it sit around and ferment, why not pasteurize it then introduce exactly the bacteria you actually want for a known result?

>>76548139
>every traditional
don't most traditional cheeses in france use raw milk? anyone every done a le study on those cheeses to find out if they're full of bacteria or not?

>>76548139

"pasteurize" - explain why one would want to do this?

>>76548174
Did you not read the preceding sentence? In order to kill off pre-existing bacteria.

>>76546912 (OP)
>>76546919
>>76547104
You know raw milk isnt bad when king jew is against raw milk

>>76547776
>non toxic strains of E. coli
All strains wreck your small intestine retard. You'll have explosive diarrhea before they colonize your large intestine. It's why pharma companies formulate probiotic capsules built to withstand the enzymes in your gut
>>76547798
>fermentation isn't the bacteria catabolizing the protein and releasing a byproduct
American education
>>76548174
To not shart in mart

>>76546919
/thread
>>76548011
>wahhhh muh politics
It's all part and parcel of the same archetype. Every person that supports the fat kidfucking retard is cut from the same cloth, the raw milk cunts are just a subset of the larger inbred tribe.
And a ton of them infected this website when that Q pedophile showed up on /pol/ 8 years ago.

>>76548345
>if you're not an easily led, degenerate retard, you must be a kike
>>>/r/ope

>>76548481
Kamala lost chud

>>76548561
Yes, the Democrats are so spineless and useless that a fat, retarded pedophile has beaten them in two elections. Of course, he's never beaten a man in an election, but he has still won elections.
This is the power of using Facebook psyops to appeal to the basest instincts of middle-aged degenerates: you can secure electoral victories against women even if you fuck kids.

>>76548345
>feeding rats a milk diet makes them less fertile
That study didn't even control between raw versus pasteurized milk. GOMAD is a retarded diet that gives you diabetes whether it's raw or pasteurized milk, and no freakin wonder the rat version screwed up their gonads from insulin resistance.

If you're relying on milk for your vitamin C or most of your calories, you're just retarded in the first place.

>>76548481
>>76548627
I say "muh politics" is bad because with how divided and politics-poisoned every retard is now, saying a single word about politics, bringing up Trump or left or right will immediately make the other side invalidate any point you have. You can easily criticize utter retardation like the raw milk "debate" without talking about Trump.

Just talk about how the only "sources" you see for supporting raw milk is literally social media accounts by FUCKING WOMEN. Imagine taking health advice from the facebook, instagram, and tik tok accounts of WOMEN, most of whom are the typical stupid white woman holes who concurrently believe in astrology, astral projections, MLM scams, and the other bullshit that middle aged white women on social media believe in.

>>76548888
>Imagine taking health advice from the facebook, instagram, and tik tok accounts of WOMEN, most of whom are the typical stupid white woman holes who concurrently believe in astrology, astral projections, MLM scams, and the other bullshit that middle aged white women on social media believe in.
They occasionally have an S-tier hit on some new plant-based, pepetide-based or mineral-based cosmetics, but 99/100 times it's just MLM BS kek.

>>76548888
>just ignore the fact that an old, fat, child-fucking cunt with an IQ of 77 is taking great pains to make every individual facet of life worse for most people in the Western world
>it's not important that the same people who support that pedo fuck are falling for obvious psyops like raw milk
OK.
I don't see how women fit in, that just makes you seem like a khv.

>>76548930
Because even if you think Donald Trump is making the entire world horrible, it has nothing to do with raw milk. And it's not only "trump loving faggots on facebook", I'm sure there's countless liberal hippie faggots who are also on the raw milk train, in fact it would make more sense that it's them.

But yeah, women fit in because women on social media are consistently some of the biggest, loudest and most outspoken retards as compared to men, and the types of people posting about this believe in all the other retarded shit as well.

>>76549001
>I'm sure there's countless liberal hippie faggots who are also on the raw milk train
Who does RFK Jr. work for again? All of those people veered Right for this exact reason. They're all ride-or-die for psuedo-Christian kidfucker fascism now.

>>76548089
Numerous scientific studies have shown that raw milk is correlated with decreased rates of asthma, allergies, eczema, otitis, fever, and respiratory infections.

>>76547516
wow a vending machine.. with milk! lmao third worlders really can only brag about the most pathetic things.

>>76549093
>Numerous scientific studies
post them

>>76547819
Pasteurization doesn't make it any more nutritious. Just make its less risky to drink because it kills any nasty bacteria hanging around.
If you get raw milk from a valid source, who keeps things clean then it's probably fine for you. People get sick from raw milk because it gets contaminated with cow manure, rat pellets, etc.
There is no difference in terms of nutrition between the two. I've never had raw milk but I would try it for the taste.
People who put raw milk on pedestal are weird.

>>76549113
Anon, we both know he won't. They never do.

>>76549134
Yeah that was my point. Pasteurization is to make it cleaner, not more nutritious.

>>76549093
If there were numerous scientific studies that have shown that raw milk is correlated with decreased rate of asthma allergies, eczema, otitis, fever, and respiratory infections, you would have posted all of them. But you didn't because they're not.

>>76549147
Yeah, your point was irrelevant because it was a straw man.

ive lived in idaho where raw milk is totally legal and they sell it in grocery stores. I also got it from a family farm that had like an automated store thing where you could pick up raw milk any hour of the day and just pay on the ipad thing they had set up; their website detailed everything about their cows and their milking process and even the type of supplements they give the cows and stuff about how if they cows eat different colored field flowers it can slightly tint the color of the milk. used to drink gallons of it in college there, great stuff

>>76549190
All the jew kike anti raw milk niggers a frothing at the mouth because of posts like yours.

>>76549275
>jew kike niggers
Wow so creative, tell me more

I basically design my health and wellness routine based off what makes jews and liberals uncomfortable.
>never go to doctor
>take ivermectin or antibiotics from Indian pharmacies when sick
>3lbs of meat a day
>all carbs come from vegetables, fruits, and dairy
>lift heavy weights
>do intense cardio
>stretch daily
>daily garlic and raw milk
>no caffeine, alcohol, or nicotine
I feel great all the time and only get sick once every few years

>>76549190
>bumblefuck hicks do bumblefuck hick shit
wow so Ebin, many updoot fine Saar

>>76546912 (OP)
third world behavior, but sometimes it's more interesting that way

>>76547104
>jew starts accusing you of what they've been doing

>>76549323
Prove it. Post body.

>>76549806
>2025
>big pharma knows what bromelain plus NAC does to not only colon cancer but also COVID now
>the combo seriously mogs ivermectin, is published all over freakin' Nature, has almost 0 side effects, and is cheap as all fuck
>boomer ass chemo manufacturers running scared
>E. coli epidemic is their only hope now

>>76548492
>easily led, degenerate retard
You clearly are

>>76549178
I was literally responding to someone making the claim you're calling a strawman.

>>76548139
Clabber is soured raw milk. You can't make it with pasteurized milk because it will spoil.

>>76550288
Ok

>>76546919
Huh, I thought it was crunchy leftie types who were pushing for organic foods for the last 60 years. What happened with that?

>>76550305
The 2020s have been so bizarre that behavioral politics have 180'd

>>76546912 (OP)
gee I wonder why the people who live where the milk is made are mostly the ones who talk about it
use your fucking brain retard. it's the same reason people who live in the city are mostly the ones posting about starbucks

>>76547516
>>76549190

Which town

I’m in southern Idaho

>>76550288
no, you weren't. link the post where someone made the claim that pasteurized milk is more nutritious than raw milk.
>you won't

>>76548166
don't you heat it before adding the rennet/enzyme?

>>76546912 (OP)
Milk is milk, idk why fags are acting like "raw milk" is some kind of panacea.
I live by a ranch and anyone can buy it. It's cheaper if you're making cheese or whatever but it doesn't last very long.
It's just milk.

>>76550649
It's a psychological coping mechanism. You can see it at play in the raw meat advocates as well. It's an appeal to ancestry in that people are unhappy with the present and so project backwards because they imagine it through rose-colored glasses to be better. Without getting too deep into it, people now have access to so much information and technology and food and culture for virtually zero effort. And despite all this, people are generally unhappy because they didn't have to earn any of it and walk aimlessly through life without any purpose. So they sort of hyper fantasize the past because they figure that less is more in some regard since they have all of what they do now and yet they still aren't happy. It's the same thing with people who say they eat primal diets or distrust of modern medicine or people who constantly post about the Greeks or Romans or people who say "Would your ancestors do X".

>>76550649
>but it doesn't last very long
its immune to spoilage

>>76550685
Its not so

>>76550685
milk is meant to be consumed directly from the teat. there is no reason for it to be resistant against spoiling.

>>76550691
It is so.
>>76550714
Before milk was pasteurized, it was normal to let it go sour at room temp and "clabber". Clabbered milk was used to create cheese or consumed as is.

>>76550728
Explain to me why you think foods spoil.

>>76550732
Because stupid humans destroyed it's natural microbiome which makes it prone to pathogens.

>>76550746
Why does raw meat spoil then

>>76550671
Lol yeah it's like that old Korean study that always gets reposted saying "durr cut ur nuts off to live an extra 16 years!" and the control group lived to an average age of freakin 55 years old, lmao.

>>76550757
It's absolutely nothing like that. In fact, that's totally unrelated to anything in that post.

>>76550763
Literally people died mad early until recently. You can look it up.

>>76550768
I didn't say it wasn't true. I said it was totally unrelated.

>>76546916
Pre-internet you would be slapped back to reality, now you get a voice and support group

>>76550753
People eat funky, fermented raw meat and are fine. If they tried that with cooked meat, they would get food poisoning.

But if you think the notion of raw meat not spoiling is unbelievable, then I'd say it's because milk has unique properties not found in meat. Maybe the lactose?

>>76550803
So you aren't going to answer the question. That's what I thought. Have a good day.

>>76550803
Okay, so your premise is that heating lactose somehow enables the entire product to become prone to spoilage. Do you have any evidence for that? (You dont)

I just drink it raw because it tastes better, whether it has any benefits I don't really care. You can always pasteurize it yourself if you're that worried about getting sick but I have found that it spoils faster that way.

>>76550809
I did answer. Are you retarded?
>>76550813
>so your premise is that heating lactose somehow enables the entire product to become prone to spoilage
The premise is killing the natural microbes makes it spoil. Hence why raw milk ferments and curdles when pasteurized milk would spoil and grow mold.

>They sell raw milk
I assume the farmers and stores assume people are smart enough to process it so they don't die

>>76546912 (OP)
I dont mind if the soi boy continues to deny raw milk. Or any of the fags on this board. Some people just wont make it

>>76550899
Most farmers pasteurize it though.
The only one that don't, sell if for gullible idiots like OP

>>76550768
>life expectancy means how old people get
Lmao, practically all improvements to life expectancy we have done are about infant mortality. Even in antiquity people regularly lived to 70-100. just look up the life span of famous people from that time, they either got assassinated, suicided, died in war or lived into their 80s

>>76550933
Enjoy your cowshit diseases pajeet

>>76550803
>>76550864
Lmao so retards are calling spoilage """"fermentation"""" now. What do you think the curdling of milk is kek. Amerimutts aren't a serious people. They are contrarian animals who will drink the Kool aid if it means getting back at an imaginary enemy

Maybe people should just look into why pasteurization became a thing in the first place

>>76546912 (OP)
>dorks will eat and drink industrial waste from Nestle and then piss and shit their clits when milk is drank the way it was always drank prior to the 19th century

>>76551543
Because of mass production. In my home country raw milk is the standard. Most grocery stores and kiosks and street vendors and markets have it. Multiple kind of animal milk too not just cow.

>>76551102
>Even in antiquity people regularly lived to 70-100.
Your odds of making it to that age were really shit-tier. There were also basically 0 treatments for cancer and heart disease above snek oil tier, even though both diseases were quite a bit rarer. Life expectancies were overall shit, even beyond babies; fuck ancestral living.

Found an old menu that specified raw milk. Pretty cool. Date anywhere from 21-55.

>>76551581
Which country? Sounds amazing.

>>76550455
rexburg

you can guess where i went to school ;)

>>76551682

Nice!

>>76550864
>It's the lactose.
>Explain.
>no
I accept your concession.

>>76551682
Raw milk was the last vestige of vitamin K2 in the industrial world's diet. Of course they wanted to take it away

>>76546920
it's not more nutritious it's less bacteria filled

>>76546912 (OP)
Raw milk is delicious and doesn't hurt my stomach like pasteurized goymilk.

>>76551685
Not really other than the food and weather. That's literally the only positive things I can say about my country. It's in Africa.

>>76546920
It doesn't, it makes it safer you retard.

>>76548011
No one on this board lifts anymore. It's teenagers who have been going to the gym for less than a year and a bunch of fucking indians who worship Elon.

>>76549001
Nta, but it is all right wing "health" grifters promoting raw milk. They praise MAHA and RFK even though it's a do-nothing movement and RFK is a rich retarded fraud who doesn't know shit about health.

>>76549323
Liberal here

>Diagnosed bipolar, ADHD, autism
>No doctor ever
>2lbs of meat a day
>Carbs most fruits, vegetables and potatoes
>Tons of yogurt
>Only drink water
>Lift 5x a week for years
>Cardio occasionally
>Hours of sun daily
>Spf daily
>No alcohol, weed, caffeine, nicotine, pills or vaccines
>Haven't been sick in years

Politics have nothing to do with being healthy. But it is annoying that my liberal friends don't take care of themselves physically and only care about mental health.

>>76551102
That is only partially true. Infant mortality was high, but people would frequently die in their 40-60's. Living past 60 was rare until post WW2.

>>76546912 (OP)
I don't trust the guy because he looks like a redditor and acts like one

>>76552558
It's the bacteria.
>>76551506
It's called clabbered milk. Look it up, nigger.

>>76552565
K2 is created by bacteria. It's in kefit, not raw milk. Even kefir has abysmal quantities compared to other fermented foods. Chicken breast, sauerkraut, or anything fermented is better. Eggs also have K2.

>>76546935
by a babby cow

>>76548930
you are outright proving his point by being so fucking obsessed with americunt politics that you literally can't go a single post without whining
so fucking insufferable

>>76549105
You're missing the point. This third worlder has more freedom and easier access to unprocessed milk than a first world American. He's not bragging about the machine, dumbass.

>>76546912 (OP)
Milk has toxin A in it.

>>76554374
Vitamin A is a real vitamin that's only unsafe over 3mg per day, go home with your schizo shit, Larry.

>>76546912 (OP)
Raw milk is not healthier for you. It makes you sick 10% of the time you drink it. It causes so many health problems that it got banned for a reason.

>>76554553
thanks for your input limp wrist. If I wasn't a 3rd worlder I might have fallen for your lies

>>76554553
Swill milk was the problem. People used to feed their babies goat milk from the tit.

Are tradfags so autistic they choose to die the traditional way? Shitting themselves to death?

>>76554993
People also used to throw children into volcanoes to change the weather.

>>76555108
No wonder the weather got so fucked up recently.

>>76555010
enjoy your soi milk and future trt at 30

>>76555174
>anon appeals to historicity
>another anon gives another historically wide spread practice to show how he is committing a fallacy
>this is a non-sequitor fallacy
Yeah no. Dont be so liberal with your diagrams. You're incorrect

All people itt advocating for raw milk have never seen an actual cow up close with their own eyes. If you have and you STILL want to drink its milk raw, then youre retarded.

>>76555196
This

>>76555196
you're getting desperate moxyte.

>>76546912 (OP)
Most teachers are leftoid cucks who's job is paid by force through taxation.

>>76555788
You lost

>>76546912 (OP)
I love how the söycuck has his head poking out and cuts to him immediately as if to say
>you already know my response to this is going to be horseshit

>>76555108
They still do, and your leaders all participate. Abortion clinics are the moloch worship of today

>>76555896
Get some new material man

>>76546912 (OP)
did she died?

Raw milk has been pretty good to me. One has to be cautious about the source since its taste can vary quite a bit.