Thread 76548730

It's only right wingers shilling the gym culture at this point

>>76548730 (OP)
Women online always say young chicks don't want to date older guys but the only women that come up and flirt when I go out are like in their low 20s. I'm 35. But I guess I kinda get it. You know that meme with like how people in their 30s used to look like Sean Connery but now people in their 30s look like Timothy Chalamet? I'm more like the latter. I just swim mostly and take finasteride, so I have lots of hair for my age. This guy looks like he could be my dad's age.

>>76548730 (OP)
Strange, because when I had tinder in the past I did pretty well (80 matches in 2 weeks)

I’m afraid of becoming a bare branch

>tallbottom damage control

lelmayo. stay mogged by us shortkings

>>76548730 (OP)
>phoneposting tweetslop screenshot thread
women don't avoid men that go to the gym, they avoid old fucks that are single in their 40s because A. old fucks are always single at that age for a good god damn reason, and B. old fucks are post-reproductive, but not infertile. No woman worth a damn wants to deal with raising a downie because her "silver fox" bf with a history of DUIs wasn't willing to get a vasectomy and put his stale cum out of its misery.

My autistic dad had me when he was 50 and my mom was 36. It was over before it began

>>76548730 (OP)
bitch my sperm would have caused autism even 20 years ago

>>76548730 (OP)
The whore is coping, but the guy comes off as sad and pathetic. Imagine being a middle-aged man and going to the beach alone, trying to pick up chicks. It's desperate and women can smell desperation.

>>76548730 (OP)
Probably the sight of homie sipping a low cal beer gave the ladies the ick.

>>76548730 (OP)
The graying beard and empty beach doesn't help his complaints.

>>76548958
>The whore is coping
she's completely right.
there's no valid reason to not get a vasectomy in your 40s; any child you could sire from that age onward has a very high chance of being born with several defects, regardless of how young the mother is.

>>76548730 (OP)
>old sperm causes autism...

I've never heard of that, especially when older guys have kids.
She should be more worried about turning thirty and not having kids.

>>76548905
>>76548958
I hate women too but women are talking the truth here, they want men there age plus two to four years older than them; that's what they mean by olde men they mean upperclassman not their dad's beer-bellied friend.

>>76548905
yeah but they’re all mid. hot women don’t approach. they don’t need to

>>76548946
Women don't care about this shit at all. Get off the internet. Most educated women can barely manage savings let alone caring about the life of gametes. It's why so many women think geriatric pregnancies should be the norm.

Rule 1: Be attractive
Rule 2: Don't be unattractive
That's it. He's simply too old looking if he's trying to get some hot 20 year olds who aren't gold diggers.

>>76548989
Not really. My wife is 8 years younger than me. Just be hot.

>>76549012
boomer cope

>>76549030
You’re not hot bro and your wife is beat

>>76549012
nigga is quoting Reddit lmao

>>76549035
If coping about it makes you feel better, go ahead.

>>76548730 (OP)
>the wall
sounds like projection from this girl because women hate being reminded of the wall.

>>76549042
You’re the one that has to live with a mid wife kek remember me when you kiss her today

>>76548730 (OP)
its cause this guy looks like a meathead who could snap and kill you at any moment (based on his pfp which is some kind of military thing, he probably is mentally ill as well)

gay men like ultramasculine men

women do not

>>76548998
Who cares? Most women my age are busted anyways. Even a mid 23 year old who isn't fat mogs the majority of mid 30s women. They're also waaaay nicer and less demanding.

>>76549055
this
tho some women are into that. the problem is hes trying to pick women up at the beach. he does not have the look for something so casual.

>>76549058
Exactly bro. That’s why I wifed her. Her personality is amazing and she’s loyal. Who cares if she’s busted.

>>76549055
>this guy looks like a meathead who could snap and kill you at any moment
He's a dyel manlet, mate.

>>76549051
see >>76549042

>>76549072
See deez nuts nigga lmao give your mid wife a sloppy kiss for me

>>76548730 (OP)
Because, if your picture is any indication, men who go to the gym are biologically older than men who don't. The guy in your pic looks like he's in his late 50s.

>>76549051
This. If no pics are posted you can always assume that it's LARP

>>76549065
kek

>>76549104
He looks older because he is old (40+) and also takes/took steroids/TRT

>>76548730 (OP)
They don't, you're terminally online.

>>76548948
lol my mom was 40 and my dad was 49 when they had me. Men and women who think they can just put off childbirth until they're older with no consequences are fucking retarded

>>76549556
More people need to be educated about the effects. My siblings and I are all short

>>76548730 (OP)
>two attention seeking bait posts in the same xitter screenshot thread
summer needs to fucking end already

>>76548983
You never heard of that because it's a lie. Women are trying to force their biological problems on men and simps are falling for that

>>76548977
False. Any genetic failureis always the mother's fault.
Unless the Father is not White, but then it is still partially her fault.

>>76548730 (OP)
The gym isn’t a replacement for a personality, face, wealth, height, or status.

>>76549657
>t. dysgenic freak

>>76549055
>looks like a meathead
he doesn't look particularly fit, just a reasonable bf%, but he definitely has the Family Annihilator phenotype

>>76548977
New sperm is generated daily and goes through several quality control mechanisms to ensure that it's healthy. Whereas women are born with all the eggs she'll ever make and those eggs age and are affected by her entire life history. Sperm only has to deliver DNA while an egg has many maternal factors that degrade with time as well as cellular components like the mitochondria which has it's own set of DNA and is subject to degradation.
It's not the same.

>>76548730 (OP)
they don't, log off the internet nigga

>>76549732
>New sperm is generated daily and goes through several quality control mechanisms to ensure that it's healthy
the organs that perform those functions degrade over time, same as any other. basic biology of aging.
strong statistical correlation between old fathers and dysgenic, defective offspring.

>>76549055
I wouldn't go that far, but the guy is very clearly insecure and probably an autist that is awkward or weird when approaching women. He'd get matches if he did online dating for sure. There's also no telling who he was pursuing. Was he going for 20 year olds, or women his own age? 20 year olds might be into older men but it's more likely that they aren't unless you want to be a sugar daddy/one-sided provider. Even then, getting a date is still a numbers game.

>>76548977
Not even remotely true. Pure feminist pedophile cope.

>>76548983
It’s a “femcel” twitter meme. They have another one where men who have too much sex experience penis shrinkage. Don’t take anything you read from twitter too seriously.

>>76550000
>defending old fucks that chase women half their age
>calling anyone else a pedo
cope harder you dusty cunt

>>76548730 (OP)
if he went to a gay bar the guys would be all over him

>>76548730 (OP)
>First of all
This woman is retarded (as all of them), sperm quality goes by hand of B9 vitamin (folic acid)
>second
That guy is a fucking gigachad, so hes probably doing something wrong or women are intimidated, but 300% chance this guy could get women easily
>third
This guy looks aprox 40, so his agematch are rancid busted whores who shamelessly fuck desperate teens on dating apps (more and more hags are doing this while calling men pedos at the same time)
>third
In my experience, its just that women are insecure as fuck and this guy intimidates them because they think hes a player. The periods of time when i fucked every single woman i encountered i was a ungroomed fat fuck, that being said, it was all low quality women. The times where i had peak feezik, women would look at me, compliment me and shit, but they wouldnt hit on me. Now im on a sweet spot where ive reached a good proportion of muscle and fat, so i look good but accessible enough for them to not be intimidated. If i point out i work out, they can either throw a tamtrum about the patriarchy or say "ok", but either way, in both cases they are down to fuck
>conclusion
Women are stupid fucks and their retardness has agravatted in the last years with social media brain rot.

>>76548730 (OP)
guy looks old af that's why. he should be at home with his wife or at work. women can detect his desperation from a mile away

>>76548730 (OP)
women say shit they don't believe all the time, whole lot of social warfare goes on there, It's been going overdrive since social media. It cant be gamed through the autistic mechanic mentality, but if you understand it you can bang a whole bunch of em. the only ones that do are socialite networker types( not often 4channers) or sociopath types.
it's common for woman to bring up that they've had past abusive boyfriends from dating apps, they're eihther lying, or since there are verry few guys who get selected, let alone laid from these sites, there is a small number of the previously mentioned sociopaths who are pumping and dumping every chick who goes on these sites.
You can do it if you're willing, they even have bitches come back to them a few times.

>>76549942
There isn’t. the degradation of the organs doesn’t impact the genetic coding.

>>76550660
>That guy is a fucking gigachad
Lol. The standards on this board have cratered to an all-time low.

>>76549108
What kind of desperate retard would post pics of his gf/wife on 4chan?

Holy shit no one here realised it’s satire, reversing the gender roles

>>76548730 (OP)
dude looks 50, so no wonder.

>>76548946
>Female hands typed this.

>>76550237
>Moving goalposts
Take your L with some dignity.

>>76550848
he did say he was cracking low quality women. standards don’t exist to him

>>76550237
>Dusty
Triggered roastie detected lol. Either that or you're a troon

>>76551040
I dont need to make an excuse. Young zoomers have been flocking towards me lately. Ive fucked 3 20 yos this year. If you cant get bitches its purely a skill issue.
>t. 5'7" chad

I don't get her point. Doesn't female aging affect health of the child even more?

>>76551058
All age related anti-natalist propaganda is highly overblown. Look at 3rd world countries, they fuck and make babies right up until menopause and have less autism and 1st worlders.

>>76548730 (OP)
women are human beings like you.
they want attention, be treated well have a comfortable life and feel safe. they do not need a man, if you provide her with good feelings and make her life better, chances are she will like you. its not rocket science. good looks is just part of making girls feel good. you cant impress them with your physique they have instagram. source: I had 3 previous gfs and i am now married for a couple of years, 30 years old.
you can keep on listening to bitter ALPHA SIGMA men and keep losing or actually be just a decent human being.

>>76551069
I can’t respect no hoe that was getting smashed by 30 year old men in high school

>>76551069
>women are human beings like you.
I've never met a girl who has a soul. every time I talk to a girl I feel like I'm talking to a chatbot.
every time I look at girl's eyes I automatically look through her not at her

>>76551069
>getting married in 202X
NGMI

>>76551069
t. Single foidgroid

>>76551097
Why does that image get posted so much? That dude is ugly as shit and balding. Why would women want that?

Is that even true? I thought only the age of the female mattered not the male.

>>76548730 (OP)
>>76548946
The information that states older men have a higher chance of offspring issues didn't control for the age of the mother. Women latched onto it to make themselves feel better about the much clearer and documented issues older women have with their children, regardless of the age of the father.

The women that screech about these things aren't worth listening to.

>>76551069
you forgot the most important part
>the woman PICKS YOU
there are two types of men; the ones who understand the above and maintains a healthy relationship with kids etc,. and eternal bachelors and divorcees
I generally agree with your advice, but it's essential that the woman is attracted to you on a fundamental level, both as a person and sexually. Otherwise you're just the next best thing she can attain at this point in her life. Women are ruthless in this manner

women are picking up on incel doomer posting

what are we going to do chuds?

she is correct thoughbeitever

>>76551044
Ok

>>76548730 (OP)
Women want a man who can protect her, not who will beat and call her a cumrag. The guy in the OP fits this vibe, plus he is too old for prime pussies.

>>76551285
Because it’s to troll women. The reason it’s easy is because women are massive hypocrites who scream about just wanting a good kind sensitive man online and yadayada. A lot of the recent times theyve gotten so mad they don’t even hide it anymore like their mothers did.

>>76549556
You’re posting here dude

My parents had me in there 20s yet somehow I’m here

>>76551097
Without make up they’d be the looks equivalent
Bro can shave and hit up China for a wife

>>76548977
Am I being gaslit? I grew up being taught that when women hit 30 the chances of their child being fucked up get exponentially higher.

>>76549732
>>76548983
As men age their sperm accumulates more spontaneous mutations, and have a lower amount of healthy sperm without defects. Older men are more likely to have children with autism, schizophrenia, chromosome abnormalities, cancer, and preeclampsia and stillbirth for the mother.

>>76553280
This is also true. High parental age is bad in general.

>>76551285
He's not THAT ugly, he's like 3-4/10.

>>76551044
dont try to speak for me, faggot.
>>76551040
>only a woman or a troon thinks old cunts larping as Eligible Bachelors on social media are a fucking embarrassment
>t. geriatric
>>76553280
it's not only women, dipshit. old cum makes retarded babies. this is known.

>>76554411
women want sub-5's dead

Why are people surprised that older sperm can also cause higher rates of complications during the pregnancy and with the child? Men are not exempt from aging

>>76554401
>Alongated

>>76548730 (OP)
there's no such thing as "old sperm" unless she means just sperm of an old man
Men generate new sperm all the time, roasties are the ones stuck with the same set of eggs forever.

>>76554449
Seething Roastie.

>>76554449
Because it's an order of magnitude lower risk, it's not even in the same realm of significance. A man at 60 with a 25 yo woman will have a healthier child than both parents at 30. You might as well be complaining the pasta in your spaghetti is a little stale, meanwhile the meat used has been rotting in the glaring sun on the sidewalk for months. Fucking read a biology texbook.

>>76555426
There is a reason why sperm banks don't accept sperm from men over 35

>>76554449
"Men age like wine, women age like milk." is the last cope for the middle-aged genetic dead ends on this board.

>>76555423
see >>76554401

>>76555537
Roastie got mad.

>>76555448
There is a nearly equal split between the contributions men and women make to infertility. Sperm is more susceptible to changes in the male's health and lifestyle, just like how old skin grows loose and saggy, old sperm will never be the same quality as a man in his 20s. Environmental factors pose greater risks for the quality of sperm than the quality of eggs. At least older women eventually stop producing eggs, older sperm only gets worse as a male ages. An older father can cause an entire generation of autism

>>76555575
I'm a man. I just got married when it was time. Keep coping though. I'm sure you'll marry a hot 20 year old when you're a 50-year-old geezer with busted sperm.

>>76548989
The first girl I shagged after a 5 year relationship was 18. Seems like you don’t know how to talk to women?

>>76555575
kek

>>76548946
>old fucks are always single at that age for a good god damn reason
My wife passed...

>>76553280
It's not just women, but the age of the mother has a much bigger impact. Like the odds of down syndrome increases by 10x if you compare a woman at 25 to a woman at 40. If you compare a father at 25 to a father at 40 we're looking at about 1.2x increase

>>76548905
I went out with a group of friends the other day and this pretty 25yo chick was talking about the dyel in his early 40s she was fucking, and the gf of one of my bros said that every woman has had at least a flirt with a significantly older man at some point in her life

>>76555828
>>76548905
Many autists on fit will never understand that there's more to relationships than looks so naturally they're surprised by a 40 year old pulling half his age.

>>76555863
honestly some men still look great at 40, I think that what many anons find surprising is just how many young women aren't put off at all by a significant age gap. Then again it's one thing to bang chicks in their twenties and another to get into a serious relationship with them, the latter will be pretty challenging if you're in your 40s

>>76555585
Infertility is different than causing defects in kids though. And, generally, if a guy has fertility issues they're present early in life right? So it's not really an age thing, and not relevant to this discussion. It's not a crazy idea that older men would produce lower quality offspring, but we need some actual evidence for that.

You would need a study about 40+ yr old men with 30 and under women. Of course that also would have its own pitfalls, but other than that I think it's pretty tough to say if Sperm are causing the issue. Now if you say being a fat fuck drinking out of the grease traps at KFC hurts sperm, then sure, but the question is if age alone is causing sperm to become lower quality and cause mutations.

>>76548905
ah no see its not because the girls in their early 20s get off on the age gap. Its just that girls in their early 20s are the only fun girls and once women sense the wall is coming they "lock in" on finding their beta husband and do not have time for fun. Many of them will literally and explicily even say out loud that they do not have time for fun anymore. And of course by the time they are 30 almost all women have their spirit and childlike sense of play and fun completely dead.

There are some rare ones who don't die inside. And some milfs who are immune to this proccess. I would call these the true "alpha" women. They make for good friends if you get a chance.

>>76548977
wrong faggot. sperm as long as the man is healthy lasts until 50+ years. uterus as long as the girl is healthy lasts for 50+ years. its the egg quality that goes down hill fast. if you are really want the healthiest baby then the girl should get pregnant the absolute youngest her body can handle a baby. sometimes that is 16 other times 19.

>>76548977
Total bs but nice b8. Women are 90% less fertile at 35 with a significant chance of birth defects. Men at 40 add a tiny chance of birth defects but nothing even comparable to womens' derelict tomb-wombs. This fact hurts women, its painful for them, so they focus on men instead as a coping mechanism. Typical female behavior, you see it ALL THE TIME on leddit, delusional 30+ single women coping hard and denying facts.

>>76548977
True, sperm quality and egg quality go down with age.

>>76556142
The sperm has to take a torturous path to get to the egg and its also a race. This mechanism makes it so that defective sperm almost never is the one that goes into the egg. A man can have pretty fucked up sperm and still rest easy knowing only his healthy swimmers will become the zygote.

Not the same for women.

>>76548977
Why lie?

>>76554401
You're not even lying, you're just dumb. You're a dumbass.

>>76548730 (OP)
I always thought meatheads were gay since i was doing martial arts

>>76554449
Because the effect of of aging on male fertility is alot smaller. It's not rocket science.

>>76556162
>>76556174
Guessing you’re 40+?

>>76556142
Yes, but its like comparing an apple with a small blemish on it (40+ men) with a half-eaten, half-rotted apple (women 30+). Females' old plumbing cause almost all serious birth defects, not men.

>>76556181
This. Women age like milk, their eggs and tubes even more so. Part of the reason as to why YOUNG women are so desirable.

>>76551097
>Work as a slave for 17h a day
>Once that's done, marry that guy
I dont understand the point she's trying tk make.

>>76548730 (OP)
>old sperm
You have to be 80 for that. Women have to be 30 to have only old eggs left.

>>76556142
This makes the chuds mad lol

>>76555934
>to get into a serious relationship with them, the latter will be pretty challenging if you're in your 40s
Why?

>>76556357
she's admitting that she'll settle post wall and after realizing that she doesn't have the skills to be an independent carreer woman
>>76556378
while most young women don't mind getting railed by mature men most of them, especially the smarter ones, will be iffy about building a life with a guy that's 15+ years older partly for the social stigma (her parents and most of her friends would likely not be happy with it), partly because that hunk is gonna age rather quickly. Not saying that it can't happen of course

>>76556159
Just because it gets there first doesn't mean it inseminates the egg first, the sperm has to be accepted into the egg therefore I want all my sperm to be high quality, why even take the chance?

Don't listen to what people, especially women, say but observe what they're doing.
Many young women are dating older guys for the benefits but they will never show them off as their boyfriend(s). Women will always take all the guys they like and then find a use for them - there's not much one can do about this as a man. If you're lucky women will please you because you're "cute"... otherwise you'll have to pay and be a kind of "follower".
Hot young women will latch onto older guys given they're hot and have wealth. It's a win win for her as the older male will spend on her willingly and be more way more reliable than a younger men. Men are just a business for women where they try to arrange the odds in their favor. They still love some guys but business, as in survival, always trumps true genuine(romantic) connections.

>>76548730 (OP)
It's hard to be left wing when you start having confidence and stop hating yourself as much, when you realize you are capable and not a wittle victim.

>>76548730 (OP)
I am 45, lift and look like I do, and I get approached by women in their 20's and 30's whenever I go out. I don't have great hair or a bunch of wrinkles so maybe its that.

>>76548730 (OP)
She's right but this post has nothing to do with going to the gym

>>76556097
Meiosis doesn't produce healthy sperm forever, cells accumulate damage over time. Eventually sperm will not be able to be produced at the same quality it used to be. This happens around the age of 35-45.

>>76556159
The path sperm has to make to reach the egg doesn't guarantee that it's the best. Typically 6-10% of a young man's sperm is healthy and not deformed, as a man gets older this goes down to 4%, sometimes lower if a man is properly taking care of themselves. Old men also have lower sperm counts, and their sperm has decreased mobility, it isn't as fast.

>>76556307
Most studies that conduct how female age affects birth and fertility don't take into account of male parental age. Typically men are a few years older than women, if a woman if 35 and pregnant it isn't out of the ordinary for the man to be 40. The reality is that neither gender should be having kids after 35.

why's there so much dogshit /r9k/ bait lately?

>>76556488
Laughably stupid post

>>76556981
Demoralization campaign to stop you people from lifting. Incels are crabs in a bucket and hate it when people better themselves
t. Former incel

>>76556981
r9k and /pol/shit has infected every nook and cranny of this site. Every board has people who post bait posts like this, it feels like all the boards are just /pol/ and /r9k/ with a different flavor

>>76548730 (OP)
>those wrinkles
lmao fuck outta here unc

>>76548977
>people eating dubs bait

>>76556271
I'm only 39 years, 364 days, and 23 hours old you sick fuck.

>>76554401
>citation needed
This is 4chan not reddit, present your evidence.

>>76555585
>at least older women eventually stop producing eggs
Women stop producing eggs during puberty. These are all the eggs she will ever have. Men produce new sperm constantly. Shut your uninformed fucking mouth.

Where are these young girl old dude combos y'all keep talking about?
Everyone in know who's either married or dating is within 2yrs of each other.

This just Incel shit?

>>76556378
When you're 40+ chicks in their twenties are as hot as they are dumb and annoying.

>>76558004
so the same as when you're in your 20s?

>>76557994
Well i mean isnt it irresponsible to be drinking and smoking before conception? Even if it probably does nothing, shit like cigarettes or burnt shit apparantly shortens telomeres/changes dna.

>>76557995
poor people tend to know other poor people
tradesmen tend to know other tradesmen
etc

who you know is not reality

>>76558127
>who you know is not reality
And somehow virgins on 4chan are living in reality?

>>76548730 (OP)
I do martial arts gym dudes are gay and their muscles look like im better at punching hard

>>76557995
It’s for guys who can score young girls. Probably not you.

>>76558242
My GFs have been similar ages to me.
But the super attractive guys I know still have Wives +-2yrs from them.

I don't see these old dude + Zoomer girl shit 4chan likes to post.

>>76558313
>I don't see these old dude + Zoomer girl shit 4chan likes to post.

Turns out all the thirty and older year olds who say they look like they're in their twenties were telling the truth.

>>76558313
>I don't see these old dude + Zoomer girl shit 4chan likes to post.

Turns out all the guys in their thirties who claim they look like they're in their twenties were telling the truth.

>>76548730 (OP)
i thought bitches liked them old

>>76558399
I know exactly how old people are.
You can't hide from my eyes.
It's a rare Autism skill I have.
I can guess ages within 1yr 99% of the time.
I can also point to North no matter where I'm at
A less useful skill.

Anyways, I don't see there 30yr+ dudes dating 20yr olds like they claim.
Most studies show a -+2yr range for married couples as well

>>76558420
Bitches don't know what they want. Ever.
It's about how you make them feel.

>>76556138
>Women are 90% less fertile at 35 with a significant chance of birth defects
Yup This. Wife had a kid at 36 and the doctors shattered her ego the whole time calling it a "geriatric pregnancy." For unmarried 30-something women the truth must really hurt.

He probably has some deep seated insecurity that manifests as subtle yet weird off putting behaviour.
Or else he does attract women he just doesn't recognise it and/or know how to take that interest and turn it into dates.
Here's a tip for the fellas that are attractive but have low confidence/don't know that they're attractive. Observe how older women treat you. If old gals are very sweet and friendly with you, as in clearly attracted to you, you're an attractive man.
Attractive men make women nervous. Women can be attracted to you but come off as very cold, distant, aloof or downright bitchy. They can give you the cold shoulder, ignore you and essentially pretend you don't exist at all. Why? Because you make them nervous. It's kind of how a lot of them flirt. It's very counter intuitive but sometimes the more attractive you are, the more a lot of women will shut down around you and if you don't know what you're looking for it's very easy to assume that no one wants you.
If you've been in that situation, then somehow got yourself a girlfriend, it might feel like to you that suddenly pretty girls are everywhere being nice, flirting with you, coming out of the woodwork. It's easy to chalk that up to 'social proof' making you more attractive. No, you're pretty much exactly as attractive as you were before but now, because you're 'taken' and no longer particularly viable, women don't shut down around you, don't do their weird distant 'fake disinterest' style of flirting with you. You don't make them so nervous anymore because for all intents and purposes you're taken. They're not nervous because they're not facing rejection by being nice to you.
Then you leave that girlfriend and suddenly it's like you're invisible to women again. What happened? Did you gain 40lbs of fat overnight? Did your face melt off? No. Now you're just seen as single so they flip back to feigning disinterest. Old gals don't do this. If they like you, younger women like you.

>>76548730 (OP)
This nigga just old.

>>76548977
Don't try to reason with old incel NEETs. If they were real with themselves and not completely delusional, life would be wayyyy too painful.

>>76548956
Autism is hereditary