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Anonymous No.76550835 >>76550893 >>76551178 >>76551408 >>76551629 >>76551850 >>76551888 >>76552418 >>76552454 >>76552477 >>76552545 >>76552719 >>76553595 >>76553661
>wake up
>take 8 shots of whiskey
>only then begin my day
surely this wont have a negative impact on my gainz... haha... i need the calorie surplus anyway...
Anonymous No.76550870 >>76550880
u wot m8
Anonymous No.76550880 >>76550903 >>76551150 >>76551850 >>76551888 >>76552001 >>76554029 >>76554065
>>76550870
>11:55AM
>downed 3/4 bottle of whiskey
dont worry about me bro... im good... haha... upper body day today, so looking forward to that... 1000x more fun that leg day...
Anonymous No.76550893
>>76550835 (OP)
I always laugh at you stupid fucking alcoholics
Anonymous No.76550903
>>76550880
>degenerate alcoholic
>does an upper/lower body split
Checks out
Anonymous No.76551150
>>76550880
>>11:55AM
>>downed 3/4 bottle of whiskey
You gon die bro
Anonymous No.76551178 >>76551960
>>76550835 (OP)
sick
I think you should try heroin next
Anonymous No.76551408 >>76551865 >>76552257 >>76552662
>>76550835 (OP)
we've seen where this path leads; good luck overcoming it, anon
Anonymous No.76551629
>>76550835 (OP)
alcohol retards protein synthesis, retard
Anonymous No.76551850 >>76551888
>>76550835 (OP)
Wow, you’re me except it was with vodka.
Waking up and drinking eight shots before starting the day.
I know you guys probably think it’s crazy or exaggerated, but when you’re this deep in it, it feels like the only way to live.
I drank 1.75l/day for nearly a decade.
If you wanna talk about it OP I’m gonna check the thread every once in a while.
Detox didn’t help me, they just fed me barbiturates and I’d have seizures as soon as I was released.
Dying from renal failure didn’t stop me, as soon as I miraculously made it off of dialysis, I started up again and reached that point again quickly.
One day I finally sat down and just made a taper chart, drinking as little as I could without feeling shitty and then subtracting 25% per day, took about a week and a half to actually taper off.
I had to make the change myself, I couldn’t rely on anyone else because at the end of the day, it was my own total disregard for my own mortality and the concept of moderation that was fucking me over.
Addiction is a passive means of suicide.
You’re thinking about how bad it is for you every time you touch the shit, but you make that trade anyways.
I managed to end my physical dependency and still have a few drinks every once in a while (physical addiction is brutal, but I needed to develop self control), but I’m wary of kindling and cannot drink too much or too closely together or my brain clicks into a fifth gear that it took me years to reach.
Seizures fucking suck.
I’m just glad I ditched the physical addiction and started lifting before 30.
>>76550880
You’re unironically doing better than I was by at least working out, I got pretty fucking out of shape but yeah it’s gonna fuck up your gains.
I think 2-3 standard drinks is the threshold before it starts fucking up your gains.
How long have you been keeping this up, anon?
You tread a slippery slope, homie.
Anonymous No.76551865
>>76551408
RIP king
Anonymous No.76551888 >>76552056
>>76550835 (OP)
>>76550880
I’m this >>76551850 dweeb and I realized you could just be on a bender and not deep in the throes of crippling physical addiction.
While this post is certainly a cry for help, you could’ve just had some hair of the dog and fucked up your gains for like… One day.
I hope that’s the case, OP.
Don’t be like me.

Either way, starting your day like that is a sign of bad times to come if you don’t start caring about yourself.
I know how difficult it can be, but neglecting to do so makes it seem all the more impossible. It’s cyclical.
Anonymous No.76551960 >>76552175
>>76551178
if he gets good stuff he would be better of than he is now
Anonymous No.76552001
>>76550880
>weak willed pussy won't drink the whole bottle
faggot, drink more
Anonymous No.76552032
I just realized that zoomers don't drink alcohol because they are all medicated with shit that can't be combined with alcohol
Anonymous No.76552056 >>76552161 >>76552198
>>76551888
i tried being an alcoholic. insane how much it takes to have debilitating withdrawals. at most i’d have sweats and a bit of anxiety for a day. to be at the point of having shakes and seizures is some real deep end shit
Anonymous No.76552161 >>76552243
>>76552056
Yeah dude, it’s brutal.
Honestly part of the reason I got so bad was because I was convinced I was going to have a seizure if I stopped (because of the anxiety), but made no effort to taper down.
I just kept maintaining, and it grew and grew.
Delirium Tremens is no joke, it’s awful.
Some people claim to have hallucinations from it, but that’s a depth even I didn’t manage to reach and honestly… I don’t doubt it exists, but if I couldn’t reach it after 10 years of nearly 2l of vodka daily, I think you’d have to have a serious, 40 year 1800’s caliber fuckin’ problem to get there.
PAWS is another beast.
Post acute withdrawal syndrome, your brain chemistry is all fucked up from ages of manually regulating shit.
Anhedonia lasts for forever, just a complete inability to enjoy anything.
Eventually that goes away, but I gave myself crippling fucking anxiety that I now have to carry through life.
It’s nowhere near as bad as “the fear” that you get when you first stop drinking/go without for long enough to have mild withdrawals, but it’s impacted my life for sure.
I understand why so many people never escape.
You were wise to avoid it, congratulations man.
Apparently less than 5% of alcoholics actually get bad enough that they have seizures and DTs, though.
When I was a kid they told me I’d be an overachiever, boy was I ever.
Anonymous No.76552175
>>76551960
Unironically… Kinda.
Opioid withdrawals aren’t shit compared to quitting serious alcoholism.
Sure, you’ll feel like you’re going to die.
But you won’t actually die.
Anonymous No.76552198 >>76552431 >>76552581
>>76552056
Quick story
>one time I was trying to quit
>ran out of booze and shit started getting bad pretty fucking quick
>liquor stores had closed, had to make it to morning
>stood up to get some water
>came to, on the ground, bloody taste in my mouth
>had a seizure the one time I was vertical over those few hours, fuck
>shoulder is horribly dislocated
>try to wrench it back into place myself, not happening
>wait for gf at the time to wake up
>we’re out of booze
>don’t really mention the shoulder, she goes independently to get more (we had a heavily codependent relationship, but she was nowhere near as bad as I was. Just liked to morning drink on the weekends)
>she gets back, I pound a few shots
>say “hey so I’m gonna need your help with something”
>my shoulder had been brutally dislocated for several hours, was Inflamed as fuck (just hurt worse to fuck with)
>show her
>”I’ve watched a few YouTube videos, and I’m gonna walk you through this. I just need you to put your foot firmly in my armpit, and wrench in this direction until you feel it pop. You’ll feel it pop, trust me”
>we both take a few more shots to psych up, I talk her though it a few more times
>I bite on a belt
>foot in armpit
>wrenching commences
>it works
>go about my day, we get hammered and watch movies
>arm is pretty sore for a few weeks but it’s not my first rodeo
That girl was a champ.
In the moment we were so proud of ourselves, but looking back… It’s bleak.
Anonymous No.76552243 >>76552329 >>76552380
>>76552161
The 5% thing surprises me because I've had them like 15 times every withdrawal, mostly in hospital, only had one seizure though (that I know of) luckily I was already in an ambulance.
Anonymous No.76552257
>>76551408
Kobra seemed like a genuine good guy. I feel bad for him. The incel scriptures were right
Anonymous No.76552329
>>76552243
How’d you end up in an ambulance before you had a seizure?
You’re quite lucky you were laying down.
Just shakes got bad enough that you had to call one or something?
The 5% thing is mostly a matter of consistency, from what I’ve observed.
Sure, volume helps heaps, but consistency is the necessary part.
Some folks can go on a month long bender and be fine sans some minor anxiety when they’re done, but when you do it for a year+, your brain just gets used to functioning like that and that’s when shit gets dicey.

Was the first question they asked you “who’s the current president?”
Anonymous No.76552380 >>76552416 >>76554566
>>76552243
Speaking of consistency, let’s talk about kindling for a second.
So when you drink long enough and hard enough that you end up with delirium tremens, that’s unlocked a “5th gear” in your brain that I’ve mentioned in a previous post.
That’s when your body/brain is so used to functioning with alcohol that it starts to go haywire without it.
Once you’ve achieved that, you’re susceptible to a thing called kindling.
Even if you’ve been dry for an extended period of time and have cleaned up your act, even drinking two days back to back can revert your brain back into that 5th gear, and it’s as though you’ve been doing in for a year.
Your body/brain has become accustomed to functioning like that, and it thinks it’s about to be business as usual.
Wa-la, you’ve got delirium tremens and seizures after only a minor bender.

I still drink from time to time, which some may find strange, but I truly believe I’m better off for it.
I decided sharia law was no way to live, and realized that as bad as my physical addiction was- I had other serious problems.
Mostly self control, moderation, and the heavy invocation of unhealthy copping mechanisms.
Those qualities were what got me there in the first place, and if I didn’t learn to control myself I would end up back where I was out of necessity, back to just maintaining.
So I started implementing what I call the “3 to 4 beer rule.”
No more drinking to “calm my nerves” or treat my anxiety, or because I’ve had a bad day, but on social occasions I will allow myself to have a few beers.
I pace myself, make myself stop, and call it a night.
Because of kindling I am very particular about not doing it too often, and never overindulging.
Honing my self control solved the root issue of many of my problems, and I’m leagues better for it.
I’m still not perfect, but holy shit it cannot be overstated how much my life has changed through overcoming such a crippling physical addiction.
Anonymous No.76552416
>>76552380
*coping mechanisms
I swear, I’m not THAT dumb.
Autocorrect fucks me sometimes.
That being said, unhealthy copping mechanisms led to my overindulgence in unhealthy coping mechanisms, so maybe it’s not that bad a typo.
Anonymous No.76552418 >>76552509
>>76550835 (OP)
how do you workout drinking that much, it makes me weaker, like i could lift as before, it makes me too weak and i just drink like 1 small bottle of wine or two beers to be able to go to school
Anonymous No.76552431
>>76552198
what the fuck anon
Anonymous No.76552454
>>76550835 (OP)
anon you are a alcohol
Anonymous No.76552477
>>76550835 (OP)
smoke weed instead
>0 calories
Anonymous No.76552509 >>76552719
>>76552418
You thug it out.
I anon’s truly used to the lifestyle of someone that needs 12floz of hard liquor to get up and moving in the morning, chances are he probably feels amazing.
This is only because of the heavy contrast when comparing to how he felt when he first woke up, though.
It’s a life of high highs and low lows, you get to the point that it’s the only way you’re functional.
I’ve still yet to find a feeling which rivals that first volley of hard liquor shots warming its way through your stomach, as all the pain and wretched anxiety you’ve inflicted upon yourself melt away.
Your brain boots up.
You can think straight, your nerves calm, any unsteadiness (mental or physical) is remedied.
The worries subside, and you feel “normal.”
Ready to conquer the day.
Tolerance is a motherfucker, too.
>that being said:
Anon still hasn’t answered anything in this thread yet, I think.
Hopefully he’s taking a nap after having just been on a small bender and isn’t actually enthralled in the horrific, cyclical curse of a lifestyle I’ve been describing.
If that’s not the case, what can I say?
Everybody’s built different.
Booze makes some people sluggish, and others amped.
Anonymous No.76552534
Apologies for sorta spamming the thread, y’all.
The al/ck/ threads on /ck/ really egged me on in the early stages of my physical addiction (not blaming them, my choices are mine and mine alone).
Something about the sense of community made it much easier to continue, and almost be proud of my journey down that path.
I try to discourage others when the opportunity arises, mostly using myself as a cautionary tale.
If OP is really drinking that much for breakfast I felt he might benefit from such tales.
Drinking can be fine, just don’t do it multiple days and weeks in a row.
Especially not for years.
But heavy drinking definitely will fuck up your gains, though.
Anonymous No.76552545 >>76552611
>>76550835 (OP)
you may think

> "it is my body/my life I can do what I want"

but that is not true

you belong to Jesus Christ

he loves you so much, even if you throw your life away and are 30 seconds from death; if you turn to him he will accept you with open arms like nothing ever happened

dont wait that long
Anonymous No.76552581 >>76552672
>>76552198
Some of my embarrassing drinking stories are pretty bad, but damn am I glad I never got to this point. Glad you're (hopefully) doing better.
Anonymous No.76552611 >>76552620 >>76553244 >>76553659
>>76552545
From personal experience, death was like one long blink.
Like slipping into a warm bath, and then you’re nothing.
All the worries that you’ve ever known of this mortal coil leave you, and you are truly unburdened.
Simultaneously, you are faintly conscious enough to appreciate how no longer conscious you are, floating along, one with the darkness.
It was the most comfortable thing I’ve ever experienced, and I look forward to going back.
There is nothing on the other side, and it is blissful.
You have nothing to fear, but unfortunately there is no heaven.
Death is just your consciousness relinquishing itself back from whence it came.
Mad comfy though.
Anonymous No.76552620 >>76552655
>>76552611
>you are faintly conscious enough to appreciate how no longer conscious you are
That doesn't even make sense. Get over yourself, you weren't dead.
Anonymous No.76552655 >>76552698 >>76552712
>>76552620
Hence the “simultaneous,” but I’m aware that it sounds paradoxical.
It’s so incredibly faint, I’d hardly call it consciousness. It’s something different.
You’re nothing, but able to appreciate the fact.
I was legally dead.
Flatlined for way, way longer than anyone should be able to survive.
They’re genuinely not sure how long I was like that before my girlfriend found me, and it’s nothing short of a medical anomaly that I don’t have incredible brain damage.
Don’t gotta be rude though, buddy.
Anonymous No.76552662 >>76552681
>>76551408
Cobes died from left over Wendy's though.
Anonymous No.76552672
>>76552581
I’m glad you made it too, man.
I’m doing a lot better.
I’ve since gotten two degrees, am working on a third, gotten real fuckin’/fit/, and am moving through life with a semblance of a sense of purpose.
Funny enough, counting calories was what really cemented me fucking off with alcohol, haha.
I wish I would’ve started seriously working on myself sooner, but I’ll take whatever victories I can claim.
I’m not even 30 yet, so I’m stoked to see where giving a shit takes me.
WAGMI, homie.
Anonymous No.76552681
>>76552662
I think that’s supposed to be Lemmy.
I could be wrong.
Anonymous No.76552698 >>76552712 >>76553601 >>76553659 >>76553941
>>76552655
The fact you could "feel" anything is proof you weren't dead. If what you say is true, you would be conscious one moment, then you would be waking up in the hospital the next. That's how nothing would actually feel. I'm rude because you're speaking authoritatively on something you've contradicted yourself about, but you believe your own lie.
Anonymous No.76552712
>>76552698
Anon need God asap, he is deep into his delusions and needs no one else but him self to realise his errors then come to Jesus Christ, also threads like this don’t help his case but I can tell he is strong enough to get over it because he is high functioning with alcohol, imagine the potential sober.

I believe you can do it >>76552655 anon. Your new life awaits you, seek Jesus
Anonymous No.76552719
>>76550835 (OP)
I do so many drugs and drink so much that I am basically immune to poison, it hasn't impacted my fitness in any meaningful way. Friendly reminder that beer and alcohol boosts test, lower inhibition and deranged motivation is useful for physical exertion and training progress

>>76552509
>You thug it out.
>I anon’s truly used to the lifestyle of someone that needs 12floz of hard liquor to get up and moving in the morning, chances are he probably feels amazing.
>This is only because of the heavy contrast when comparing to how he felt when he first woke up, though.
>It’s a life of high highs and low lows, you get to the point that it’s the only way you’re functional.
>I’ve still yet to find a feeling which rivals that first volley of hard liquor shots warming its way through your stomach, as all the pain and wretched anxiety you’ve inflicted upon yourself melt away.
>Your brain boots up.
>You can think straight, your nerves calm, any unsteadiness (mental or physical) is remedied.
>The worries subside, and you feel “normal.”
>Ready to conquer the day.
>Tolerance is a motherfucker, too.
Very wise post
Anonymous No.76552740 >>76552843 >>76553293
>wake up
>never drink any alcohol, don't use any drugs even weed, don't even drink coffee for a caffeine boost like everyone else
>pretty much just "raw dog" life as the kids say nowadays, not some sort of annoying straight edge guy, just never really see the point of it
>still ended up a completely worthless loser at the tender age of 33 with no sex, no friends, no career, still living with mom and dad, and no car
sometimes i wonder if there's a connection between the two, not partaking in any substances and ending up a useless loser, or if i was just always destined to end up like this.
Anonymous No.76552843
>>76552740
I think it's less that not drinking is the reason you don't have friends, and more that you don't have friends, so you've had fewer occasions that you were pressured into drinking.
Anonymous No.76553244 >>76553583
>>76552611
should I trust you or should I trust God?

Job 38:4-7
Anonymous No.76553293
>>76552740
there's definitely a connection. both being a daily day drinking degenerate drug addict idiot and a straight edge teetotaler are extremes when you have a healthy drinking a few beers or a cup of wine every now and then middle
alcoholics just end up having more stories, being more interesting and probably fucking more on average than teetotalers out of the sheer uninhibition that booze causes, but they end up shitting blood and ruining their lives to balance it
Anonymous No.76553583 >>76553821
>>76553244
How’d that go for Job though?
Anonymous No.76553595 >>76553629
>>76550835 (OP)
Being an alcoholic is the most pathetic existence a human can have. Not even man enough for hard drugs but OHHH NEED MA BOTTLE OFSAD JUICEEEE
Anonymous No.76553601 >>76553659
>>76552698
You couldn’t really… It’s hard to explain, man.
If you read the first post, I did describe it as “one long blink.”
Dying is what felt like slipping into a warm bath, letting go.
The experience on the other side though, I did just kinda blink and was left with the recollection of the sensation that I described.
Not quite sure what else to tell you except maybe give it a shot yourself, m8.
You seem pretty committed to misunderstanding me, so I’ll just leave it at that.
Anonymous No.76553629 >>76553649 >>76554011
>>76553595
Honestly the alcoholics that bum me out the worst are just the ones that can’t hold their liquor and still try to party. Constantly.
The ones that are truly miserable and depressed, drinking alone, and working through a suicide plan on installments I can kind of relate to.
But the ones that are just insufferable to be around and will get themselves kicked out of a Chili’s? Unacceptable.
And they’ll do it again, and again, and again.
Solitary alcoholics I can empathize with.
“Social” ones with zero self awareness that’s only amplified by booze are just fucking obnoxious, get some help.
Anonymous No.76553649 >>76553665
>>76553629
Its all pathetic and just a sign of being weak. I believe in god but thinking this is our only life either way and I wasted my 20s obese af really makes me look at it and think how crazy that these people will never get a second chance. Everyday is closer to a horrific painful death as their organs rot and they bloat up like a blimp. Same with the super obese guys.

My dad was an alcoholic and kicked it with AA and is much happier. His brother shits in a bag and god knows how he will see 60
Anonymous No.76553659
>>76552698
i second >>76553601
you seem like an insufferable faggot with piss poor reading comprehension.
literally everything you’re complaining about was covered in the posts.
go ahead and give it a try yourself.
report back lol

>>76552611
ty for sharing anon this was an insightful lil’ read. glad you made it back.
Anonymous No.76553661 >>76553681
>>76550835 (OP)
Honestly for gains theres a hard tipping point, maybe just get a buzz and smoke better weed.
Anonymous No.76553665
>>76553649
Honestly that’s why I kinda fucked off with it.
It’s a terrible way to go, organ failure.
Dying bloated and jaundiced while anyone you haven’t yet pissed off comes to visit and see you like that?
No thanks.
If I’m gonna buy the farm because I don’t plan to get that old, I’d like people to remember me fondly.
So I definitely agree with you about that much.
Anonymous No.76553681 >>76554012
>>76553661
I wish the stuff didn’t give me panic attacks nowadays, I guess it’s just part of getting old.
I know it’s something I can work on, it was a (New Years) goal of mine to become mentally healthy enough that I could enjoy it again, but I’ve had no such luck.
I guess there are still other aspects of my life I need to sort out.
Just sucks, what used to be an absolute cure all now just amplifies every horrible thought I’m fighting off.
Anonymous No.76553821
>>76553583
good in the end. I recommend reading it

2 hour audiobook free on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBUUmCN4dB4
Anonymous No.76553871 >>76554021
How do you alcoholic fags can resist a lot?
>be me
>go to party
>drink a lot like 2 or 3 bottles with friends
>5 days of recover
>have a lot of diarrea
>energy is very low
How??? I saw some dudes jacked and drink a lot. What is the secret?
Anonymous No.76553941
>>76552698
And you would know, how exactly? What authority on the afterlife are you?
The anon you’re sperging out on seems vastly more qualified to report on the subject.
Anonymous No.76554011
>>76553629
Eh it's a cycle, as someone that worked as a bartender the solitary alcoholics become problematic in their own time
Anonymous No.76554012 >>76554130
>>76553681
I mean i just use weed to get more fucked up with liquor youre overthinking things and the stress is probably worse for gains than the liquor.
Anonymous No.76554021 >>76554121 >>76554149
>>76553871
are you Asian or just old?
Anonymous No.76554029
>>76550880
My grandpa would do the same, smoke a pack, do speed then go out drinking for the night. He lived to be 61.
Anonymous No.76554065
>>76550880
Anonymous No.76554121 >>76554145
>>76554021
Normal 33 years old.
But man it hit me hard drink
Why asian?
Anonymous No.76554130
>>76554012
Ohh, I missed your point.
You’re saying get crossfaded to maximize fucked up-edness while minimizing actual overall substance/ gains goblin intake.
That does math.
Yeah, I can handle both at the same time (the calming effects of alcohol help to cancel out my overthinking), just not dudelmao on it’s own anymore.
As I said, I really wish I could.
I really miss it being relaxing.
These days I’m not really looking to maximize fucked up-edness all that often, though, but I’ll keep your wisdom in mind the rare nights that I do have such desires.
Anonymous No.76554145 >>76554149
>>76554121
A lot of Asians have an allergic reaction to alcohol (or something quite similar), it’s called the flush.
Something like one in five, and severity varies on a case by case basis.
Some just get red, some get fucked up (health wise) for days on end.

>t. have known quite a few folks that have suffered from it and I ask a lot of questions
Anonymous No.76554149
>>76554145
>>76554021
(wasn’t the dude you were replying to btw, just chiming in)
Anonymous No.76554566
>>76552380
I have this. OP, I was where you are about 6 months before things went from tottering on the edge of destruction (still have job/home/battered but intact human relationships, drinking before work or at lunch) to full bore HeavyMetal 2000 diving through the twisting machine spider hellscape made of living guts on fire as the world collapses around and upon you.
If you're not like me, maybe you can do it without inpatient detox and rehab, but at the very least you will need a benzo taper or a beer taper. If you're doing the taper properly, you should feel pretty rough but not in the aforementioned hellscape of spiders and guts.
One of the ways my case was special was when it became bad enough that I had to hide it, which led to periods of extreme binging followed by a few days or a week of sobriety, where I would withdrawal. Eventually, I would go into withdrawals when I was still well over the legal limit. From there I entered the fabled land of delirium tremens. I won't go into detail beyond saying the anxiety you feel becomes fear then terror, full blown waking hallucinations, disjointed fight or flight thinking and disconnecting from reality. Heart never below 160 always sure you're about to die and maybe correct, can't sleep for days, can't rinse the burning steel smelling sweat off in the shower because you can't stand without falling and when you close your eyes in the water, you keep getting attacked by the screaming face from The Wall.
It's so bad bro. I know it's bad now and the hopelessness you feel but please trust me that this way lies madness and it can get so much worse.
I tried quitting a million times over a decade, it only stuck once I leaned on Christ. He saved me man, He can save you too.
Now I'm /fit/ and sober and free, all thanks to God.
Remember the benzo taper. Chances are if you're not kindled you will just get bad WDs and not full blown DTs, but either way, this is not something you can continue and you shouldn't cold turkey it.
Anonymous No.76554620
how do i help my dad (50yo)? he doesn't drink in the morning but he has 6-8 beers every night, including one or sometimes two on the drive home from work.
i was looking through our family photo albums the other day and there was a disturbing amount of photos of my dad passed out drunk on the couch. we're talking 35 years of rampant alcoholism.