Thread 76554614

I’ve been going to the gym consistently for awhile now but lately I’ve been losing motivation, mostly due to the fact that I constantly fail with girls. Part of the reason why I started working out as hopes of getting a girlfriend, and now I’ve realized that it’s not even my looks/body, it’s my personality that is completely unattractive and dismisses anything I could do to improve my body. What’s the point in working out if you’re always going to be incompatible with women? Ever since I came to this realization, I’ve just started drinking and smoking again whole skipping the gym more and more. I fail to see any reason to continue going when the person I am is unattractive be default.

Does anyone have any advice for me? I feel really lost

get a fucking grip you damn poser stay in the gym the conifence will come the longer your in the gym but dont lift for girls lift for yourself if you're lifting for girls you might as well kill yourself

You should join a theatre/improv class and you'll be able to talk with anyone about anything

>>76554614 (OP)
Call your dad.

dont take yourself so seriously, you're probably not especially boring or unattractive.
at least not enough to warrant complete dispair.

90% of the benefit from working out isnt even visual its mental.

>>76554614 (OP)
I was in your exact spot and accepted the fact that I'll die as a KV. The best I can tell you is to keep working out anyway for your personal health. Being fat isn't fun.

>>76554628
>>76554638
>>76554641

I’ve been working out for almost 5 years and mentally I’m just getting worse and worse. As you get older it becomes more and more difficult to get a girlfriend. I’m already 26 and I don’t see anything changing in the foreseeable future. I’ve been trying dating apps and I constantly get ghosted or rejected, probably because these girls can tell I’m an autistic weirdo pussy who can’t talk to women. At this point I’m so far gone then I’m giving up on more than just the gym. I’ve basically dropped out of school, I quit my job, I’m back to smoking weed/cigs, I’m drinking again, etc.

Loneliness is really fucking my life up man. The gym was the last consistent thing I had in my life and now I’ve lost all motivation to continue it. Wats the point in working towards a future you know you’ll be alone and miserable in? Might as well blow my brains out at this point. I legitimately have nothing left.

>>76554614 (OP)
Waaaaaaaaaa waaaaaa all I hear is a baby waaaaaaa

>>76554666
tell him, satan

>>76554614 (OP)
it's super easy to talk to them dumbfuck bot. invite them to do something fun, museum, soccer, tennis, out for supper, to a concert, for a walk/hike, swimming, coffee, see a movie (you literally don't even have to talk for this one), sports game, some event in your city, camping, kayaking, conservatory, literally anywhere with nice scenery, cook something for the two of you. groom yourself and don't be a silent sperg. you can talk about literally anything. look at random objects and rhyme with them if its that boring, or then you just weren't compatible personality wise. its so easy. oh and do not be fat. I am currently fat. It's the worst, did it by myself though

>>76554656
goddamn nigga you're pathetic
stop being pathetic

>>76554689
I don’t even get the chance to take girls out on a date most of the time. I always get ghosted or rejected by them. Last time I had a date was 2 months ago, and she was telling me before how excited she was to meet me and all this shit. We went on the date and right after she became distant. She ended up rejecting me over text. I’m a complete utter fucking failure. How can a girl like you so much, talking to you every single day, saying how excited she was to see me, only to ghost me the very next day? I didn’t even do anything retarded or autistic. I’m fundamentally unattractive and I’m never going to amount to anything cause I’m so unlikable. No amount of going to the gym will ever help somebody like me.

>>76554696
If you don't get a chance to take them on a date the problem is you aren't attractive enough, you need to looksmaxx (part of this is getting jacked and lean) and then try again.

>>76554656
Bro I'm about to turn 35 and my divorce was finalized 3 months ago and yeah it's tougher than it was but man you gotta go out there and be brave. I'm just fit and pretend to be more confident than I feel sometimes and when it's time to shoot the shot I shoot even though it can be nerve wracking and I have been getting too much female attention lately.
Pull yourself up by your boots straps sonny boah.

>>76554695
You’d be “pathetic” too if you were a constant failure at everything you do in life. I’m completely unlikable. Women are repulsed by me. I have no friends. All of this gives me zero motivation to “improve myself”. I’ve been “improving myself” for over 5 years and I have nothing to show for it. I sweat God/the universe just wants me to kill myself at this point. >>76554699
I get plenty of matches on dating apps, it’s because I’m an autistic fucking pussy that has no game. There’s too many better men than me out there that I’m fighting against. How could I ever stand a chance when I’m fundamentally fucking retarded? My parents had he when they were in their 40s. I’m fucking autistic as shit, my body is deformed, i have the personality of a fucking pussy, etc. I’m completely fucking cooked at going to the gym isn’t going to fix anything at this point.

>>76554709
Just because you're getting matches doesn't mean you won't benefit from looksmaxxing, the more attractive you look the lower foids' expectations of you will be and the more interest they will show. You will get ghosted less, they will reply more frequently, the halo effect will carry you through dates, etc. The rest of the problems you're complaining about can be overcome if you care to put in the effort. Yeah just going to the gym isn't enough to get a qt gf, you also need to not be a sperg pussy, so fix that shit nigga. Or cry on 4chan if you prefer, less competition for me lol.

>>76554706
I’ve been shooting my shot every chance I get. I made a new bumble account like 3 weeks ago and I matched with like 70 girls. Constantly ghost ghosted or rejected. Out of all 70 I didn’t even get to take ONE girl out on a date. I blame my stupid ass fucking parents for having me at 45. I’m completely mentally fucked by being autistic. I have a fucked up deformed body, and I’m a total fucking pussy that nobody likes. I legitimately have no fucking reason to life except for the fact that blowing my brains out will make my parents sad. They shouldn’t have had me in their mid 40s, it completely fucked up my entire life.

>>76554729
Nigga you can’t fix autism. You can’t fix a deformed body. You can’t fix being an introvert pussy with feelings.

bros i need your help
i'm seeing this guy in a few weeks, he’s talked about doing all sorts of stuff including oral
problem is i've only been with and done oral to virgin guys, the idea of putting my tongue and lips where lots of dicks have been before is fucking disgusting to me but i've already said i'll suck him out
also cheating on my girlfriend (girl/friend) with this guy so i don't want dicks on my lips when i kiss him
how long does dick germs stay on the ass and lips? if this guy hasn't fucked in over a month would he be technically 'clean'?

to keep it fitness related, everytime i perform imverse raises my shinbone and hips click. no pain but noticeable movement, is this problem?

>>76554742
Shut your gay ass up

>>76554737
Nigga you can fix autism and introversion, there are plenty of drugs and other substances that high inhibition mentalcels use to larp as NT. Do some fucking research. As for being deformed, depends what the deformity is. Also if you can ascend to chad foids won't care about your autism, they'll think it's endearing.

>>76554730
Have you considered the possibility that everything you talk like a fag, and that's why girls don't like you? All you need to do is talk differently. Go read a fucking forum on how to talk to bitches it's not that complicated you fucking loser.

People like cling to this idea that their personality is embedded in their soul and can't be changed. That's wrong. Personality is just an accumulation of your behavior and it's like the easiest thing to conscientiously change.

You had 70 opportunities to try something different but you kept doing the same gay shit every time. Figure it out you fucking retard

Going gym to increase chances with women is like walking around the street picking up coins to increase your chance of becoming a millionaire

Youre better off doing anything else.

I gym because I fucking love it, and Im addicted to it, 20 years strong now

>>76554760
You’re 100% right, I probably do talk like a fag. But I don’t know how to not do that. I just have a shy, introverted personality by default and it probably comes off like that through text. I don’t know how to stop it.

It’s funny how the biggest advice of getting girls and succeeding in life is to “be yourself”, yet doing that just makes me fail at everything I do. I’m so fucked lol

As a married man I'd do anything to be a single 20s dude again
Count your blessings man, one day you'll look back and wish you were in this exact spot that you're in now.

>>76554614 (OP)
You're going to the gym for your very own benefit. Fuck the admiration of others. Take pride in the fact that you care for yourself and push yourself in ways that most people don't care to do. You are improving your QOL by going to the gym. Never base your happiness or successes on the actions of other people. Don't let them dictate how you live, you will always be miserable if you do because people are temperamental, ever-changing, temporary, and they are not you. You live for YOU.

>>76554785
Why would I ever want to look back at this time in my life fondly? I have no friends, girls are repulsed by me, I have a shit body, I have no hope for the future, and I’m more than likely going to begin balding soon and will have no hopes of ever finding a girl. This is the fucking WORST time of my entire life. Just because you were a single chad in your 20s who easily got girls dosent mean it’s the same for me.
>>76554786
Well obviously I’m doing something wrong considering how much of an utter fucking failure I am. The thing that stings the most is that if I was born normal, I could’ve been a successful Chad. But since my parents had me in their mid 40s, I’m a total autistic nut case with a deformed body. I don’t think I’m particularly handsome but I wouldn’t say I’m hideously ugly either. I got dealt a shitty hand in life by being born short, autistic, and a Pisces (aka the zodiac sign for being a total sensitive pussy fag).

There’s no point in living a life you’ll be miserable and alone in. Genuinely what’s the fucking point?

>>76554614 (OP)
For the moment, let's accept that and say that it is your personality. Do you need to drop the gym because your personality is causing issues? You can do physical and personal work. You won't always be incompatible with women, at least if you try to better yourself. Bettering yourself won't erase you. It isn't about fundamentally changing who you are at your core. You must cultivate your garden. Pull up the weeds, trim the hedges, plow the fields, plant your seeds, water and harvest your crops, then enjoy the fruits of your self-improvement.
>>76554656
I'm also 26. Do you go out at all, besides the gym? Do you have other hobbies? How do you interact with women in situations that you are not pursuing or weighing romantic things?

>>76554818
I can’t fundamentally change my personality though, especially considering I’m diagnosed autistic. I can’t just take some pills or work out religiously to make my autism go away. Women are hardwired to sense if something is wrong with a man, and no matter how hard I try to mask it, my faggy personality and deformities always shine through.

No I don’t go out besides the gym. Sometimes I rarely go to the bar just to get drunk and leave. I’m too shy, introverted and autistic to talk to women, especially at the bar. I only talk to women through dating apps. I quit my job and dropped out of school because I’m so depressed and dejected, so I don’t really talk to anybody except a couple people at my gym and my parents.

>inb4 just get some friends bro and let them introduce you to women

I’m 26. I already have no friends. I don’t have a job. I dropped out of school. I don’t have anybody to talk to. I’m too old just to be able to “make friends”. Everybody I knew from highschool has moved on to start families and getting married. I have nothing left but to smoke weed/cigs and drink my life away. At this point I legitimately just want to become a homeless drug addict that overdoses. I’m a total fucking loser and I’m tired of trying to fit in society where I feel like a total fucking alien.

>>76554776
"Just be yourself" is a meme. You're a fag, and you need to stop. Texting is the easiest way to flirt because you have unlimited time to respond. Think carefully. Go read text convos that get posted online, learn what constitutes flirting. Don't be boring, don't be gay, don't be too weird. Wait until you think of something normie to say

>>76554844
I don’t know how to stop. It’s like women have a fucking super sense to detect that I’m neurodivergent or something. Most of the time the conditions are fine, then suddenly one day she just switches up and becomes dry. I ask her if everything is ok because she seems kind of dry, and at that point she basically tells me “oh I’m not ready for a relationship” or whatever. I was legit talking to this girl until 5 am last night, we were flirting and setting up plans for a date, then the next day she texts me that she’s extremely depressed because her ex from 2 months ago cheated on her and she isn’t ready for a relationship and unadded me. What the fuck did I do wrong? I don’t fucking get it

>>76554871
Well talking until 5am like a fag is one thing. They don't want a bitch to talk to they want a man who wants to fuck them

>Muh personality can't change
Yes it can, faggot

>>76554919
I was showing interest and openly flirting though. And I wanted to take things slow cause she said she was depressed from her ex cheating on her. I wasn’t gossiping like a bitch I was actively flirting and talking to her. What am i supposed to do? Ask her when do I get to fuck her? That’s fucking retarded and makes me look like a creep

>>76554689
It's easy for you because of completely random genetic lottery (face, height, etc) and it has nothing to do with your fitness, your personality, or anything you said or did, and you didn't actually do anything to earn it.

>>76554614 (OP)
Stay in the gym. You shouldn’t be working out for roasties, but to better yourself.

90% of men are genetically locked out of having sex with girls outside of duty sex in serious, committed, money/company based relationships. Women only truly get turned on by the most beautiful ~10% of guys, it's how they're biologically wired. Most men just shouldn't date and should generally avoid women. It's better to suffer through loneliness than to be in a "romance" with zero mutual attraction.

>>76554975
*In other words, don't lift for women.

>>76554952
You are a creep nigga

>>76554966
What’s the point in bettering myself when it leads me nowhere? I’m still depressed, miserable, and alone. It’s doing nothing for me at this point. And my body looks like shit anyway even after like 5 years of lifting.
>>76554975
That’s bullshit cope and you know it. There’s countless success stories on Reddit and even here where guys have no trouble getting girls off dating apps. I don’t even want to fuck I just want to find a loyal girl who I can spend my life with, but it’s utterly fucking impossible for me cause I’m such a fucking failure.

>>76554830
There are autistic women. I'm autistic as shit and I managed for three years with my ex. Look, you don't have to fundamentally alter yourself. Find a woman who is interested in whatever shit you're autistic about. Most of my friends are autistic women. The rest are a few autistic men.

Have you thought about finding a place to go outside of the gym? Try going to the park, the library, to a cafe. You're not too old to make friends. You don't have to be super close hang out every weekend friends. Some of my friends are some guys I see at the gym and talk to for 5-10 minutes before or after a workout.

I sometimes feel like an alien. But then I do something about it. You aren't some lost cause. Thinking you are and wallowing in it is doing more damage to you than your autism is.

>>76554991
>There’s countless success stories on Reddit and even here where guys have no trouble getting girls off dating apps.
Dating apps only work for 9/10s minimum. Women reject LITERALLY 95% of men on those things. If you aren't in at least the top 10% then you get zero results.

>>76555132
Bullshit cope. Plenty of guys have tons of success on dating apps. There’s thousands of success stories both irl and online. Your statement is mathematically impossible. It just dosent work for ugly autists like us. Normies have zero issue.

Go volunteer at a soup kitchen.

Learn to be a human and talk to others.

There is no need to seek validation now, you have plenty of life to do that.

>>76554656
Niggas be like I ain't had sex my life is over lmao

>>76555149
>There is no need to seek validation now, you have plenty of life to do that.

Bro I’m 26. I have like four years left max to find a girl, and I should’ve had one by now. It just gets more and more difficult as you get older. I’m seriously fucked if I don’t find a girlfriend soon.

>>76555160
I’m not a virgin.

>>76555184
>Bro I’m 26. I have like four years left max to find a girl, and I should’ve had one by now. It just gets more and more difficult as you get older. I’m seriously fucked if I don’t find a girlfriend soon.

Yeah, that's just cope. Men get finer with age. You can find a decent girl well in to your 40s if you put the work in now to improve yourself as a person.

I don’t wanna blackpill further but i think there aren’t solutions to this problem. Just find a new obsession and drink/do drugs responsibly to fill the unending void.

I tried all: got money, a 50k€ car, i spent 1200€ for an image counseling and dress armani, i did charity and volounteered, traveled abroad, went to uni, reached elite levels in PL, calistenichs and BB
Played guitar in a band(with a bc warlock transparent that i customized with leds and neon strings that glows under blacklight) i produced edm in fl studio and i even worked 12 hours a day as a PT
As side hobbies i have reading philosophy(nihilism in primis) gardening and ornamental fishes, competitive vidya(i was getting payed in destiny 1) and insects(especially butterflies and moths)

My body. I’m short (176/178cm and with an average penis 15.5/16 long and 13.5 girth)
I have about 100k€ of surgery budget so i guess that a solution would be to try some hard look maxing before giving up

Gospeed anon, you’re not alone and i’m hoping you will find a gf and/or peace