>>76559686
>It's doable if you put in the effort.
2 is for most, but most don't put in the effort.
3, I bet if you put 100 25 year old guys in a bench camp for three years and made sure they didn't do PEDs, less than 20 would do it. That'll never happen so it's all opinions, but going to a pretty casual gym for 1.5 years I've seen 100 people bench, and about 3 including me load 2pl8. I think that's the max.
If you're in a powerlifting gym or team or some shit, there has been so much selection involved in getting those people together it's not remotely representative of a random sample. IF natty, they were the outliers in body geometry, strength, propensity to build muscle.