Thread 76555427

Why is every normie these days obsessed with blood sugar spikes? It's literally only a problem for diabetics.

>>76555427 (OP)
because it makes you hungry and you overeat and you remain fat

you will get diabetes from constant high blood sugar spikes

>>76555427 (OP)
because they're diabetic
even the skinny ones eat too much processed sugar

>>76555510
is it sugar or is it carbs?

>>76555528
its sugar, carbs and calories. in that order

>>76555427 (OP)
because it's unhealthy and they're carbaholics

>>76555427 (OP)
Years of targeted marketing and flavor chemistry have made nearly half a generation eat themselves into pre-diabetes by age 30. They are right to try to save themselves now rather than later.

Time for a short walk and/or build enough muscle as glucose sink.

>>76555427 (OP)
Because people are easily duped by marketing gimmicks and fads. Worst offender is that glucose goddess chick.
>See for reference: carnivore, keto, low fat, eating 20g of creatine, bcaas etc. etc.

>>76555510
lol nope.

>>76555427 (OP)
>Best buddy is healthy in shape guy
>Out of nowhere gets the worst flu of his life and comes out the other side with type 1 diabetes after nearly dying.
>On insulin, using a CGM, the whole shebang
>Cut to the modern day and now he has to ration his insulin due to insulin shortages.
>It's all thanks to type 2 hogs and retarded normies panicking over blood sugar despite not being diabetic.

>>76555785
I hope you realize in normal countries people don't have to spend their life savings on insulin.

>>76555785
A "healthy in shape" guy does not suddenly get type 1 diabetes after a flu

>>76555785
Yes and cancer is a plague

I intentially spike my blood sugar for the gym. I will basically eat no sugar for 24 hours and then I will slam a bunch of honey and fruit before I lift. You will never convince me this is not based. The high blood sugar gets your thyroid going and helps with your lifts and fills your muscles with energy and shit.

Then for the rest of the day I am resetting my insulin sensitivity and hopefully losing some fat.

>>76556020
You're an idiot who doesn't understand what he's talking about.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/type-1-diabetes/symptoms-causes/syc-20353011
>Different factors, such as genetics and some viruses, may cause type 1 diabetes.

>>76556035
The thing that puts me off about that is the long-term effect of semi-regularly shocking your body with sugar. Idk how intense it really is but it reminds me of people trying to lose weight by starving, then binging, and consequently disturbing their metabolism.

>>76556069
>it reminds me of people trying to lose weight by starving, then binging, and consequently disturbing their metabolism

lol bro starving and binging is the natural way of human beings. Its not going to "disturb your metabolism" stop listening to women

In the same way that a cave man would get very little carbs. He might find some berries and thats nice. But every once in a while he smashes the bee hive and grabs the honey and shocks the absolute shit out of his system with a pint of honey. Cave man happy

>>76556020
Type 1 is a immune problem
Type 2 is the mechanism breaking from wear

its actually insane how easy it is to not get diabetes

>be me
>get diagnosis of pre diabetes and fatty liver disease
>lose 20 pounds from 260 to 240 in 2 months
>perfect blood work after

I am literally still fat

>>76556096
I don't think cavemen were waiting until actual starvation kicked in to eat. They were probably acquiring food on instinct and instinct would tell them to eat way before proper starvation. I'm not really sure what exactly you mean by caveman either.
>Its not going to "disturb your metabolism"
I'm not talking from experience but it comes up often in weight loss threads. Some guy will try to get fast results by starving themselves for several days, give up, binge eat, and gain everything back. That doesn't seem healthy to me.
>But every once in a while he smashes the bee hive and grabs the honey and shocks the absolute shit out of his system with a pint of honey
Yeah idk how real that is. When I say "shock" I mean an intense effect on the body, not just a boost in energy. I feel like they would feel satiated before reaching that point. I've heard the negative effects of sudden sugar consumption aren't as bad if you aren't doing it on an empty stomach.

>>76556168
bro you are starting to piss me off. You think the cave man is going to risk his life for some honey and then only just eat a little bit. Or he is going to hunt down a moose with his bros and they are not going to fucking feast when they kill it?

Starvation diets do often fail because its psychologically torturous to starve yourself. Not because the metabolism breaks down or whatever. Your metabolism evolved to handle a lot of shit.

Does anyone have experience with this:
heigth: 178cm
weight: 82kg
BF 14-15%
but my fasting glucose level is between 100 and 110 mg/dl ( = 5,6 - 6,1 mmol/l) and I'm thirsty allmost all day long, drinking water doesn't help shit.
I almost never eat anything unhealthy, drink only water, do carbcycling and stuff like that.
I can't live more healthy or lose that much more fat and still I do have prebeetus??

>>76556179
Modern humans have a gut biome that evolved and designed itself to handle carb heavy diets with the invention of agriculture over the last 10k years. Resetting and replacing this gut biome is extremely taxing on the body and difficult to do, and is akin to carnivore diet shit. Other than nice teeth there's nothing that proves early humans were exceptionally healthy compared to modern ones, and in fact often had low bone density despite physical labor due to malnutrition.

>>76555528
All digestible carbs become glucose in the bloodstream.

>>76556230
literally kill yourself you are too retarded to have a discussion with

>>76556045
>>76556129
topkek
yeah again if a FLU can wipe out essential pancreatic cells then you're not healthy, sorry

>>76555510
Not really... That's only if you're sedentary and have low muscle mass. It's the constant release of insulin that gets you, but if you are active then your muscles soak up the glucose rather than needing insulin. That's why runners and cyclist and fit people in general can slam carbs with no issues.

>>76556230
None of them were all that healthy. Pathogens and parasites were our biggest cause of death in both circumstance. With the advent of internal medicine most of the downsides of either are minimized. The peak of humans more sexual years is pretty much unaffected and everyone just splits hairs about geriatric and pre-geriatric years like you dying 10 years after you've ceased to be of use to the world is somehow worse than you dying 20 more instead.

>>76556364
>It doesn't matter how physically fit or how clean someone eats if they happen to a have been born with previously unknown but manageable genetic issue they are TECHNICALLY not 100% healthy therefore I'm correct

I've never heard anybody talk about this.

>>76556791
Midwest?

>>76556179
lmao at your cartoon caveman scenarios you base your nutrition on.

>>76555427 (OP)
Wait until you realize 90% of Americans with diabetes have type 2.

>>76557467
Not just nutrition I base most of my life on the imagined caveman.

>>76556353
Glad to hear you've conceded to me.

>>76558794
kek

>>76555785
>>76555813
I always hear whining about how insulin is patented to make money, even when the original insulin was sold to a university.
Why can't they use basic bovine insulin that isn't rapid or long acting?