Thread 76568447

Does /fit/ not use a smartwatch to track their progress? This subject is surprisingly unpopular in this board.
I'm personally trying to decide between the options in picrel.

Suunto Race S

Small, battery last more than a week with constant heat tracking, multiple exercise, precise GPS, etc

https://www.suunto.com/Products/sports-watches/suunto-race-s/suunto-race-s-all-black/

I surf multiple times per week, very solid and reliable watch.

Not a chinese garbage trash.

>>76568447 (OP)
Been thinking of getting one. Whichever most accurately measures heart stuff and tracks sleep, steps too. I’m thinking a garmin. I don’t wanna wear it all the time though and can’t imagine falling asleep with one on only accessory I like is a single gold chain tucked under my shirt. I wouldn’t even wear shoes if it were socially acceptable. Hate too much stuff.

>>76568447 (OP)
I use a Garmin Instinct I've had for some years. It does the needful, though the band wears out regularly but replacements are cheap.

>>76568477
Garmin Instinct 2 or 2S if you are a wristlet. It does all the things you need and its cheap. The 3 is for faggots may as well just get a iwatch or Google watch or whatever the sois wear.

>>76568477
> only accessory I like is a single gold chain
vgm Saar

I don't get the purpose of all this fitness tracking. Most training needs absolutely no tracking at all. If you have a more complicated program, maybe a notebook is necessary. I wear a watch, but all I use is the stopwatch for tracking rest between sets. What do you really need to know?

> not wearing a swiss mechanical horology masterpiece like a white man is supposed to

Ngmi

trash. just get a chest heart rate monitor. Cheaper and more accurate.

>>76568762
For me it's just the HR monitor I use 99% of the time, but I also like having the GPS for shit like running and cycling since I never have a set course so it's good to see where I actually went and track distance and time and shit, also helpful for sailing to see just how shit my tacks were lol. Also the calorie estimate can be useful and the sleep tracking. Also basic watch and timer functions are handy for workouts.

>>76568762
heart rate tracking is absolutely necessary if you are serious about cardio workout
>uhhhh just go by feel
>uhhhh just go real hard and real fast until you get gassed out
people like these are always giving terrible advice, and they always have shitty stats

>>76568837
Niggers from niggerland who won international competitions in track didnt have these nerd watches, brosef..
>muh cuckwatch is le necessary!

>>76568807
The HR monitor on all watches is shit compared to a chest strap. And the recovery and sleep metrics are basically useless if you can listen to your own body. If I felt I slept like shit my watch is gonna tell me the same. Same if I think I slept well. They're still great for tracking all kinds of sports and have other useful watch features like timers, alarms, and of course time.

>>76568837
You can unironically do cardio workouts almost purely on feel. But for that you need to have a lot of experience. I could do a lot of my cardio workouts with my recording device in my pocket and I'd still be bang on target. Of course there are some workouts where that's not possible but they're a minority. But I have thousands of hours worth of training to understand what shit is supposed to feel like. For someone starting out on cardio HR is a necessity.

i bought a cheap chink on on amazon last year. it lasted about 4 months then the vibration mechanism stopped working. a few days later it stopped ''waking when raised'' so i just tossed it.

I just use a Samsung watch that u got for free with my phone

redpill me on the best pdc

>>76568447 (OP)
>smartwatch to track their progress?
Garmin Fenix 7
but mostly because I'm /out/ a lot

>This subject is surprisingly unpopular in this board.
why would it be?
it doesn't really help with lifting
it's a play gadget

personally I like evaluating data, and it motivates me
but for non endurance sports / training, tracking HR or oxygen saturation is pretty useless
and even for endurance, after a few sessions you get a feel for your lactate turnpoints and you can train by feel

>>76568865
>The HR monitor on all watches is shit compared to a chest strap
there are plenty of tests that show that the newer (like last 2-3y) Garmin and Apple sensor units are essentially equal to chest straps

but yeah you're 50€ aliexpress watch WILL be off by double digits

>>76568837
industrial society and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race

>>76569200
I have the latest Garmin sensor on my watch and it's still not great. They lag behind and they don't get the peaks. Of course for steady state cardio they're good enough. Another problem with them is that you have to have them really tight on your wrist for them to be accurate, which can irritate the skin on some people if they are doing cardio every day. And they obviously don't work when your watch is on top of your shirt/jacket which is how people use them during winter. There's really no reason to not get a chest strap if you're doing cardio consistently.

>>76568447 (OP)
A distraction. Toys.
Newbies think these will make them big and strong - if only they have the right equipment.

Are Xiaomi watches good for sleep tracking? Any anons using them?

>>76568447 (OP)
No, why would I give my data to (((them)))?

>>76568447 (OP)
dont want to pay money to have a corp own my biostats. The calorie tracker is a meme and no adult should need an app to tell him how good/bad their sleep is, you've already been doing it for a third of your damn life.
HR is neat for cardio and maintaining zone 2 but you pick that up with practice anyways. I say this as someone who actually has to run for a job

It is useless for weightlifting
But it is very good for optimizing your cardio progress
Polar H10 is the true gold standard for this purpose though
If you swim a lot (meaning you're not poor), you'd want both anyway

Apple watch and newer Pixel watches have good HR tracking compared to a strap (I use both), the rest of them are not very good.

>>76569570
I thought cuck strap sensors were not good under water?

>>76569570
Polar Pacer Pro and H10 band for track. LED sensors don't react quickly enough for shorter fast stuff. Overkill as I just record and analyse afterwards rather than worry about zones. I don't worry about HR otherwise and a stopwatch or clock is fine for gym.
Continuous HR is useful as it helps me track overnight to see if its getting low on my meds (blockers).
Cadence useful to compare how I felt vs what was going on - 240 spm* measured vs felt like 210-20, and vice versa.
Power interesting but of dubious accuracy.
*watch cadence reading needs doubling as it only measures one side.

>>76569275
>Another problem with them is that you have to have them really tight on your wrist for them to be accurate
and shave off the hair (if you have a hairy wrist like me)
and withe / light skin etc.
there are a few limiting factors

but can't agree with this
>They lag behind and they don't get the peaks.
my Garmin FR and Fenix absolutely do
for 99% of situation they work just as good as my chest strap
that's anecdotal but more throughout test (like from dcrainmaker) show basically the same

technically you're not wrong
optical sensors are heavily processed
which makes them miss / smooth out some things
but that's so rare for Garmin (and alike) top models that it doesn't matter for anyone but maybe professional athletes

>>76568447 (OP)
If you can count, you don't need one of these toys.

>>76568653
I have 7.5” wrists. The issue is more sensory than anything probably some aspect of autism. I’ve looked into the ours rings but I already know it would be the same I would fidget with it constantly and never not notice it’s there.
>>76568706
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>>76568467
read the made in label behind the watch face lol

>t. this watch haver

>>76568467
SAAr i will kindly redeeming this!
>>76568597
mrmmm very good sir

I just wear my rolex submariner to gym and mog all smartwatch dyels kek

>>76571085
damn, this lil' nigga is proud of spending 99% royalties on a $10k watch that cost $100 to be manufactured

>>76571211
Cope.
Somehow every smartwatch wearing soiboy at my gym can’t even bench 3pl kek

Bump for interest

>>76568447 (OP)

I'm not against smartwatches or additional tracking of any kind, but I don't feel the need to track anything aside from my lifting numbers on my phone's note app or in a notebook as needed.

In other words I'm sorry I can't help you OP.

>>76568447 (OP)
I got an apple watch ultra because I'm extremely health anxious and it keeps me in check seeing normal numbers

>>76569275
Exactly, there's over 10 seconds of lag when I do intervals without the chest strap, it's better than nothing but for a poor person a good chest strap with a cheaper watch will be better than buying the most expensive Garmin

>>76568865
>But for that you need to have a lot of experience
>I'd still be bang on target
Nice job anon. Mere mortals could still use some help from techology.

I have a fenix 7.
Training status feature is useful, both as a way to prevent overtraining and to prevent slacking when not feeling like having a hard workout.
Quite like the navigation when going on longer bikerides or when hiking.
Body battery stuff is mostly a meme but it reminds me to take a breather.
I have trouble noticing the things myself so it's nice to have it remind me about those.
Didn't expect ir but the built in flashlight gets almost daily use.
Other smartwatch features like silent alarms are very nice as well.

>>76573016
>I got an apple watch ultra because I'm extremely health anxious and it keeps me in check seeing normal numbers
is the ultra that much different than the standard? I too have heart issues so I got it just in case

>>76568447 (OP)
I use a Garmin because that's the only high-end watch that doesn't require smartphone/bluetooth/internet connectivity to work. I don't want my data to be sold to insurers and shit so I just plug the watch into my computer, grab the data and analyze it with open source software.

I pay for a WHOOP 5.0 with my HSA so nothing really comes out of my bank account.

Pros:
2 week battery, comes with an external charging puck you just slip on for an hour, don't have to take it off
Good sleep tracking and heartrate data
The biggest thing is it measures your "Strain" for the day and tells you how much your body can take for the day.
Auto-notices strenuous activity
Light, easy to forget it's there.
Built-In A.I. on the app is useful for tracking your trends and getting insights on behaviors. Of all things that negatively affect recovery, eating past 8PM is the worst thing for me.
Because of the battery and easy to forget it's there, it's easy to get all your sleep tracking
Doesn't have a screen to scratch
Doesn't have a screen to crack
Wear your regular watch without looking weird for wearing two watches as you would if you had a smartwatch.

Cons:
$240/year subscription. Personally negated by utilizing an HSA
The most expensive $350/year or whatever "perks" are actual bogus, just get the middle plan.
People who went from WHOOP 4.0 to WHOOP 5.0 got shafted if they bought extra bands because they weren't compatible and the jump from 4.0 to 5.0's is worth it, but if they want extra bands its' just more money. Sucks to be them.

>>76574830
What software do you use/recommend? I know you can pull the .fit files off the watch but haven't looked figured out what to do with them except writing the software myself. Would love to have the open source equivalent of Garmin Connect and not give them all my data.

>>76575458
i think gadgetbridge might be more similar to garmin connect. I think it's compatible with some of the garmins but might be completely wrong. I meant to try it when getting my garmin but ended up using the garmin shit. It's retarded shitware but I think they aren't selling your data or anything (for now)

>>76574911
how bogus? blood pressure tracking that doesn't need a cuff seems pretty
>The algorithm estimates blood pressure based on heart rate, heart rate variability (HRV), and blood flow patterns measured during sleep
>The estimate is generated once per day, typically upon waking
holy shit this is useless

>>76571069
Unfortunately this is the case now with Suunto
If you bought pre 2024 on the higher end..titanium, sapphire glass..it was ha d crafted i Finland. Post 2024 there is a good chance you got a batch put together in China

Any watches do spo2?

>>76575575
Yeah it's a bit of a scandal right now and everyone is lighting them up about it.
They even greenlit it after the FDA was like "hey yeah no that's not gonna fly"

when will they release a fully analog watch that tracks heart rate and steps in the background?
i would gobble that asap

>>76568447 (OP)
Idk about your pic, but I just have the normal GT5.

First smart watch, so really can't compare it to much, but I really like it. It has a ton of stuff it tracks and I like it's little health pointers. I primarily use it for running, but I like using it for lifting and swimming, too. It's well built and you can get nicer looking bracelets for it online. I also swim in the ocean once a week with it and haven't had any problems from that, not sure if it does much but I do use the "drain" function a couple times after each swim.

Neat extras is it tracks 'mood' idk how. It's Chinese so it has a panda built into it, but you have to have it as the watch face if you use it. This also means if you live in the US you have to do a work-around in order to get the proper software/companion app for it as the US version is very limited in several functions. Of course, all of your vitals, location, and masturbating sessions are uploaded to the CCP database, but I think it's worth it.

I think it actually just looks good compared to other ones in the same class of function. Can almost pass as a real watch at a glance.

>>76576445
Most garmins do spo2.

>>76577307
coros does as well

>>76574830
your meds schizo

>>76576833
>steps
There is most likely some Japanese mechanism for that from the 1960s or 1970s. But again, its only really useful if you can LOG it, and then get more data from that.
>PPM
Its not very useful, since its also a average and a curve. The curve is, so is the cumulative data on things like pressure and whatnot.

>>76568447 (OP)
you either buy a garmin or you buy something that's objectively shittier, not really much to talk about

Garmin 7, affordable at this point and the battery life is stellar.
The most unexpectedly useful feature was the sleep tracking, it made finally quit alcohol for good.

is anyone here a runner who has used a coros pace 2/3 and any of the suunos? really interested in switching off of chinese servers, but frankly my current pace 2 works pretty dang good. i'm a finaboo and would happily switch to suuno assuming their app works as good, i'd still get ~week battery life, and the sleep tracking works.

>>76569419
Got the Huawei one GT2 Pro.
pretty accurate and battery last a week, still
The Honor variants are pretty solid too.

>>76568447 (OP)
They're incredibly inaccurate in comparison with sensors that mount right on your chest, that's why they aren't really used by athletes, so why even bother?
I just have a simple gshock like picrel for tracking time, and it's study, I bump it into other shit all the time and it still holds up.
Shit like Garmin is only useful to people who really need GPS tracking with a long ass battery life, no one uses them for their heartrate and other bs sensors. I have a gymbuddy who does rafting and kayaking, he uses maxed out garmin tactix when he's on his trips, but when he's in the gym he also wears a gshock, although a bit fancier.

Are any of these good for tracking calorie burn?

>>76580505
I also use this model and it’s good, what do you mean by it helping you quit alcohol tho

>>76582753
I don't exactly get enough time to sleep during the week so I like to make sure the sleep I get is good quality.
I only used to drink on the weekends unless I was on holiday, and I assumed that if I drink a lot of water and sleep in longer, it will still be fine - but every time I drank, even smaller amounts, the sleep tracking comes up as non-restorative - which never happens when I don't drink. Which helped me quit(together with the fact that it was harder for me to get a good buzz as I get older and I started getting hangovers).

>>76582753
Alcohol fucks up your sleep. Everyone knows this.
But being able to see just how fucking detrimental it is can give it perspective.
It's like you're not asleep, just unconscious.

>>76582753
>I also use this model and it’s good
Should i buy this blindly? How much did it cost?

My applewatch broke down early 2023 and i haven't been using a smartwatch since and i started to miss it, knowing your resting heart rate and your sleep quality was really useful

>>76582769
>I don't exactly get enough time to sleep during the week so I like to make sure the sleep I get is good quality.
Did the watch help you also sleep better? I sleep at random times nowadays scrolling before bed

>>76582791
Anything that gives you feedback on sleep quality will help you make better decisions.
It's not so much the watch. Nothing the watch will tell you is new. The sleep advice is always the same.
Early to bed.
Dark room.
Cool room.
Reduce blue light. No fucking screens an hour before bed.
Don't eat within 2 hours of bedtime. (3 is preferable)
No alcohol.
Consistent bedtime
Have a wind-down routine at consistent times to get your circadian rhythm in check
And a little Glycine and Magnesium Glycinate can help promote deeper sleep for physical recovery
There. That will help you get quality sleep.
It's hard to do all of those, but the watch will translate your body trying to tell you that, yes, these things are working and not doing those things aren't.

>>76568447 (OP)
I bought an Amazfit Helio Strap, wear it on my bicep all day
It's not bad?
The HR reading accuracy is much better than wrist based smartwatches, almost as good as a chest strap, but it also tracks sleep

>>76568447 (OP)
>>76582425
I use pic rel and have been banging it into the occasional thing for a few years now, it does everything I need to.

The ability to switch over to the stopwatch function and start it, (or the ability to stop the stopwatch, reset, and start it again) without even having to look down at the watch is ultra useful.

Anyone know how Polar ones are? Their pacer pro model is nice looking.

>>76571085
wew I can just buy a rep for $800 and put the other $9k into bitcoin to turn it into $90k. who's the poorfag now

>>76583241
is pretty good. The only thing more expensive bands like the whoop does is parse the data for you.
If you can extract that data and analyze it, crazy good value.

>>76568447 (OP)
Lifted weights for 30 years, pen and paper did me great. Started running and bought a secondhanded garmin forerunner 45 for nearly fuck all for pace/distance/heart rate. Picked up a chest strap as the HRM isnt super. Bought a garmin fenix 6x as quite fancied having maps on my watch as I go up in the hills walking - I use paper maps and can map read but in bad weather Id rather look at a watch then get a map pocket out. Again, bought that second hand for next to fuck all. Only thing I always buy new is socks and shoes.

>>76568447 (OP)
I want to get a Withings Scanwatch 2. The battery lasts 30 days and I like that it's pretty minimal.

>>76583773
I have a pacer pro (commented >>76569937)
Good for running (I use it for track with a band), otherwise just using it as a tracker. Had one or two issues after an update but now fine after PC tethered reset.
Polar invented the HRM and appear to try to stay at or near bleeding edge. They're not big on marketing so now not as well known as Garmin or Coros, and try to avoid most of the stupid metrics so lose out on the feature war, which is a shame. This is my 4th polar in 20 years so I obviously like them.
Web /website interface is functional but good (again, no bullshit).
Beware that the Pacer Pro doesn't have a speaker, it vibrates instead (!). I find this works ok as an alarm but YMMV etc...

>>76568447 (OP)
>chinkshit vs chinkshit
get the cheaper one
ecg from gt5 pro is bullshit
quantified scientist has t-rex 3 with better stats
t-rex 3 is usually always the cheaper option
so the winner is clear here

I bought a T-Rex 3 some half a year ago. It's great at counting steps, distance, sleep tracking, it's great for cardio and outdoor activities, the GPS is great, and the companion app is decent enough for food macro tracking, even if it high balls it most of the time and the AI recognition is hit or miss, but it's absolute shite for tracking weight training. You can write in your weights and reps, but it doesn't have any exercises, it's just weight training. And it doesn't even connect to Hevy or Caliber, so there's not much point in that.

>>76584698
Interesting, thanks. Sorry I missed your comment

>>76576833
The Garmin Vivomove does this. It has an analog watch face and can optionally display your stats behind the watch arms, but if you turn that off it looks just like a regular watch.

Got T rex 3 and happy with it.

Very intuitive.

>>76582425
>incredibly inaccurate in comparison to chest straps
This was true 10 years ago, the newer heart rate sensors are pretty damn accurate.